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Post by Matt on Aug 15, 2018 11:53:35 GMT
Gone to Blyth according to Chron. Been & Jonno looking for a replacement. it's definitely Spennymoor, £800 a week.
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Post by devablue on Aug 15, 2018 15:39:19 GMT
Gone to Blyth according to Chron. Been & Jonno looking for a replacement. it's definitely Spennymoor, £800 a week. How would Spennymoor be able to afford that..
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Post by Matt on Aug 15, 2018 15:44:28 GMT
it's definitely Spennymoor, £800 a week. How would Spennymoor be able to afford that.. Bankrolled but speaking to a Spennymoor fan it seems they offer over the odds for 2 or 3 players then the rest are on peanuts.
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Post by MPW on Aug 15, 2018 17:46:32 GMT
More like Spendymore!
Not being funny, but I’d never even heard of them until last season, sad times when we can’t compete with the like of them.
Disappointing as Tuton has one of the better performers and will be hard to replace on the cheap. But obviously he’s happy to go there for more money and probably sit on the bench most weeks.
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Post by Matt on Aug 15, 2018 17:55:10 GMT
More like Spendymore! Not being funny, but I’d never even heard of them until last season, sad times when we can’t compete with the like of them. Disappointing as Tuton has one of the better performers and will be hard to replace on the cheap. But obviously he’s happy to go there for more money and probably sit on the bench most weeks. The way of football these days with money flying around. A Club with the average of 20,000 (Aberdeen) has been out muscled by a Club who average 1,600 say's it all.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 15, 2018 18:51:58 GMT
Big loss for us this, ive likes him more than any other option up top thus far, although he does seem a lot of hard work and not many goals.
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Post by rcb on Aug 15, 2018 19:30:41 GMT
More like Spendymore! Not being funny, but I’d never even heard of them until last season, sad times when we can’t compete with the like of them. Disappointing as Tuton has one of the better performers and will be hard to replace on the cheap. But obviously he’s happy to go there for more money and probably sit on the bench most weeks. The way of football these days with money flying around. A Club with the average of 20,000 (Aberdeen) has been out muscled by a Club who average 1,600 say's it all. Just all too typical of the monster created by the likes of Sky. The “game of the people” concept has all but been destroyed. Decent Mancunians already feel it’s normal to support the obscene wealth of Abu Dhabi’s investment in a plaything for their little spoilt boy Mansour. A well supported club like Aberdeen can’t compete with the class of 92’s plaything. Even at our level, a nonentity bumpkin club taken over by the self indulgent Dale Vince is allowed to buy its way into league football. Roy Keane was all too right in his remarks on the Prawn Sandwich Brigade.
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Post by g1 on Aug 15, 2018 21:14:04 GMT
The way of football these days with money flying around. A Club with the average of 20,000 (Aberdeen) has been out muscled by a Club who average 1,600 say's it all. Just all too typical of the monster created by the likes of Sky. The “game of the people” concept has all but been destroyed. Decent Mancunians already feel it’s normal to support the obscene wealth of Abu Dhabi’s investment in a plaything for their little spoilt boy Mansour. A well supported club like Aberdeen can’t compete with the class of 92’s plaything. Even at our level, a nonentity bumpkin club taken over by the self indulgent Dale Vince is allowed to buy its way into league football. Roy Keane was all too right in his remarks on the Prawn Sandwich Brigade.
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Post by g1 on Aug 15, 2018 21:15:39 GMT
The way of football these days with money flying around. A Club with the average of 20,000 (Aberdeen) has been out muscled by a Club who average 1,600 say's it all. Just all too typical of the monster created by the likes of Sky. The “game of the people” concept has all but been destroyed. Decent Mancunians already feel it’s normal to support the obscene wealth of Abu Dhabi’s investment in a plaything for their little spoilt boy Mansour. A well supported club like Aberdeen can’t compete with the class of 92’s plaything. Even at our level, a nonentity bumpkin club taken over by the self indulgent Dale Vince is allowed to buy its way into league football. Roy Keane was all too right in his remarks on the Prawn Sandwich Brigade. [ote] people are right but don't forget Blackburn started this buying the league trend gets easily forgotten
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Post by g1 on Aug 15, 2018 21:17:12 GMT
Just all too typical of the monster created by the likes of Sky. The “game of the people” concept has all but been destroyed. Decent Mancunians already feel it’s normal to support the obscene wealth of Abu Dhabi’s investment in a plaything for their little spoilt boy Mansour. A well supported club like Aberdeen can’t compete with the class of 92’s plaything. Even at our level, a nonentity bumpkin club taken over by the self indulgent Dale Vince is allowed to buy its way into league football. Roy Keane was all too right in his remarks on the Prawn Sandwich Brigade. [ote] people are right but don't forget Blackburn started this buying the league trend gets easily forgotten thing about Vince as well is he runs the club at a loss how is that allowed
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 21:25:49 GMT
Disappointed to see him go as he looked liked the type of player you'd need to really have a crack at this league.
I don't blame him though, lad was on a pay as you play deal, he's right to take a contract elsewhere. If he's on more money then fair play, but I imagine the length of contract was the deciding factor more than pay itself.
It's frustrating to see us miss out on top players but it only highlights the difficulty we'll have this season with our budget.
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Post by Si on Aug 15, 2018 21:33:12 GMT
It’s a blow but nothing major. He looked handy enough but his goal scoring record in recent times was poor and he didn’t look like he’d exactly be banging them in for fun for us. Decent player but not the next Pele that some have made him out to be, we will move on. Bern and Johnno said in the summer that they only want players who are here for the right reasons and if Shaun wants to go and play for the money at a Spennymoor then that suggests that he is not the character our managers want. We move on.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 15, 2018 21:54:44 GMT
It’s a blow but nothing major. He looked handy enough but his goal scoring record in recent times was poor and he didn’t look like he’d exactly be banging them in for fun for us. Decent player but not the next Pele that some have made him out to be, we will move on. Bern and Johnno said in the summer that they only want players who are here for the right reasons and if Shaun wants to go and play for the money at a Spennymoor then that suggests that he is not the character our managers want. We move on. May not be going for the money as such, more the permanent contract and security of income. Fair play really.
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Post by Blockhead on Aug 15, 2018 22:19:39 GMT
It’s a blow but nothing major. He looked handy enough but his goal scoring record in recent times was poor and he didn’t look like he’d exactly be banging them in for fun for us. Decent player but not the next Pele that some have made him out to be, we will move on. Bern and Johnno said in the summer that they only want players who are here for the right reasons and if Shaun wants to go and play for the money at a Spennymoor then that suggests that he is not the character our managers want. We move on. May not be going for the money as such, more the permanent contract and security of income. Fair play really. Given the fact that we've offered a permanent contract in response to the interest, I'd say he's (right or wrongly) going for the money.
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Post by dmcnally on Aug 15, 2018 22:26:22 GMT
May not be going for the money as such, more the permanent contract and security of income. Fair play really. Given the fact that we've offered a permanent contract in response to the interest, I'd say he's (right or wrongly) going for the money. We haven’t offered him anywhere near the same money though.
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Post by Blockhead on Aug 15, 2018 23:02:16 GMT
Given the fact that we've offered a permanent contract in response to the interest, I'd say he's (right or wrongly) going for the money. We haven’t offered him anywhere near the same money though. I didn't say we had. That's why he is going for the money, like I said.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 16, 2018 0:17:21 GMT
May not be going for the money as such, more the permanent contract and security of income. Fair play really. Given the fact that we've offered a permanent contract in response to the interest, I'd say he's (right or wrongly) going for the money. I get that,but who wouldn’t? He has no loyalties to us he’s been here a fortnight. Money is the key to everything in football, that’s the issue for us in terms of progress
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 16, 2018 5:58:26 GMT
It’s a blow but nothing major. He looked handy enough but his goal scoring record in recent times was poor and he didn’t look like he’d exactly be banging them in for fun for us. Decent player but not the next Pele that some have made him out to be, we will move on. Bern and Johnno said in the summer that they only want players who are here for the right reasons and if Shaun wants to go and play for the money at a Spennymoor then that suggests that he is not the character our managers want. We move on. May not be going for the money as such, more the permanent contract and security of income. Fair play really. Exactly. He's left a zero hours contract for a secure job with a steady income.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 11:45:21 GMT
According to Dave Powell on his Q&A Shaun Tuton was offered a deal after playing in the Ramsbottom game as a trialist but left to chance his luck at Fylde. He was then invited into Chester again but by that time other players had already been committed to. On top of that the managers moved out players on loan to free up money to offer him a deal but he still left for Spennymoor.
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Post by happyclapper on Aug 16, 2018 16:18:51 GMT
According to Dave Powell on his Q&A Shaun Tuton was offered a deal after playing in the Ramsbottom game as a trialist but left to chance his luck at Fylde. He was then invited into Chester again but by that time other players had already been committed to. On top of that the managers moved out players on loan to free up money to offer him a deal but he still left for Spennymoor. The only players moved out would have been the young lads. They are paid for by Swettenhams which is separate to the main budget so it wouldn't have freed up any funds?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 16:26:35 GMT
According to Dave Powell on his Q&A Shaun Tuton was offered a deal after playing in the Ramsbottom game as a trialist but left to chance his luck at Fylde. He was then invited into Chester again but by that time other players had already been committed to. On top of that the managers moved out players on loan to free up money to offer him a deal but he still left for Spennymoor. The only players moved out would have been the young lads. They are paid for by Swettenhams which is separate to the main budget so it wouldn't have freed up any funds? Wouldn’t that just all go into one budget though, ie the initial budget increased with his money? My point was that not only has Tuton left but also the two young lads on loan so essentially three players have gone out.
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Post by cemlynblue on Aug 16, 2018 17:15:34 GMT
Judas, if he doesn’t want to play for the shirt then rather him be gone.
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Post by MPW on Aug 16, 2018 17:17:04 GMT
I do wonder if it would be best for all parties if Mahon and Waters also moved on, especially as they are the only two still on full time contracts.
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Post by happyclapper on Aug 16, 2018 17:21:46 GMT
The only players moved out would have been the young lads. They are paid for by Swettenhams which is separate to the main budget so it wouldn't have freed up any funds? Wouldn’t that just all go into one budget though, ie the initial budget increased with his money? My point was that not only has Tuton left but also the two young lads on loan so essentially three players have gone out. I wouldn't have thought so, the whole point of the sponsorship and paying for their first professional contracts is to support them specifically, not give the club extra funds in its budget by moving them out on loan somewhere else. My understanding is the £250k budget is for the experienced pro's not the first year players who are paid for by Swettenhams.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 5:50:15 GMT
Wouldn’t that just all go into one budget though, ie the initial budget increased with his money? My point was that not only has Tuton left but also the two young lads on loan so essentially three players have gone out. I wouldn't have thought so, the whole point of the sponsorship and paying for their first professional contracts is to support them specifically, not give the club extra funds in its budget by moving them out on loan somewhere else. My understanding is the £250k budget is for the experienced pro's not the first year players who are paid for by Swettenhams. All goes in the same pot.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 17, 2018 7:36:22 GMT
I wouldn't have thought so, the whole point of the sponsorship and paying for their first professional contracts is to support them specifically, not give the club extra funds in its budget by moving them out on loan somewhere else. My understanding is the £250k budget is for the experienced pro's not the first year players who are paid for by Swettenhams. All goes in the same pot. With them being funded doesn’t it seem almost unfair to ship them out on loan so we can use their funds elsewhere? I mean I understand it, and clearly Swettenhams are very supportive of the club, but if I was paying player wages to promote youth I’d kind of expect some to be involved.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 7:59:48 GMT
I think that Swettenhams Chemists are realistic enough to know that some of the lads are not ready yet. Ian Swettenham sits on the clubs Operations Board, so I am sure he has been consulted. Whilst technically these lads are excellent, they now need to learn how to adapt to playing the mens game. It is so much better for their development that they go and play games in a competitive open age league than sit in the stands watching older Chester players in their positions. It works out even better for the club if these clubs are covering the wages of these boys, enabling strengthening of areas needed. It worked for Sam Hughes at Witton, and Tom Crawford at Runcorn Town, hopefully the spells spent by the lads at Barnoldswick and elsewhere will help this years crop progress in the same manner, better equipped to grab the opportunity for Chester when it shows itself.
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Post by Matt on Aug 17, 2018 8:44:08 GMT
I think what’s great here is we’ve got into a situation where it’s easily panic stations to dip into any donation that we have to make sure Tuton stays here. Well done to the board for making a realistic offer. Cannot blame the player for moving on and so do we.
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Post by Si on Aug 17, 2018 10:11:44 GMT
I think what’s great here is we’ve got into a situation where it’s easily panic stations to dip into any donation that we have to make sure Tuton stays here. Well done to the board for making a realistic offer. Cannot blame the player for moving on and so do we. Remember all the clamour for us to spunk 30k to sign Ryan Lloyd permanently when Southport were sniffing at him? He was available on a free transfer come the end of the season. After all the financial trouble we've faced in the last year, the last thing we need to be doing is extending the budget to sign players. The budget was agreed, the managers were happy to work with it, and I'm sure that any extra funds whether it be through a cup run or Sam playing for Leicester would give some leverage for additional funds. At this stage of the season, I see no reason to make extra budget accommodations for a striker with a naff goalscoring record. We've got Dudley and Smalley (once the admin issue is sorted!), and Matty Hughes can also play up there too. Once George Green is back laying it on a plate for those guys then we'll be laughing. We've also got the young lad Marsh-Hughes who appears to have impressed the managers and could be close to getting further game time.
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Post by sqzl on Aug 17, 2018 13:48:44 GMT
Obviously with Tuton going, we could use Smalley being available. What is the story with that now because it’s getting a little tedious that he’s still having paperwork issues three weeks later?
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