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Post by Jack on Jan 13, 2019 12:20:19 GMT
Mooney and Mahon are just lacking a bit of confidence right now, they're both quality wingers at this level. I'd agree that ideally Jackson could replace Mooney for a few games but I don't think I think Waters is the answer on the left wing.
As a team, the players we are missing are the two that are most integral in how we play. Stopforth sets the tone for the entire team with his pressing and Asante is so strong that it creates all kind of space for our attacking players. Without them, it's going to be a few more weeks of struggle I'm afraid.
If there's any budget to move with, I'd be trying to get in a striker in the Asante mould. Even if it's a young lad on loan, a player who is mobile and hard working up front could give us a huge boost.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 13, 2019 12:34:47 GMT
Also, Lloyd Marzh Hughes looked highly capable of filling that role at FCUM but he now added to the injury list.
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Post by chesterken on Jan 13, 2019 13:09:26 GMT
The toss of the coin hurt us yesterday had we been kicking against the wind in the second half instead of with I think we would have scored 3 or 4 in the second half, I lost count of the number of through balls that were carried out by the wind they would have held up had we been playing towards the Harry Mac.
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Post by dmcnally on Jan 13, 2019 14:18:55 GMT
Career goals:
Simon Grand (centre back) - 54 Deane Smalley (striker) - 38
Simon albeit 4 years older but a remarkable scoring record for a centre half.
Conclusion - Grand would do a better job up front. Wins his fair share of headers and even has an eye for goal. #makeshift
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Post by Lobster on Jan 13, 2019 15:22:34 GMT
I think you’ve got to accept Smalley for what he is - no world beater but a hard worker who can fill in at several positions, and is quite useful to have in a squad like ours. Some of our fans can’t see past him being one of ‘the Smalleys’ but he’s done a lot better for us than Dom.
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Post by CH3STER on Jan 13, 2019 15:53:17 GMT
I think you’ve got to accept Smalley for what he is - no world beater but a hard worker who can fill in at several positions, and is quite useful to have in a squad like ours. Some of our fans can’t see past him being one of ‘the Smalleys’ but he’s done a lot better for us than Dom. This post sums it up well. We are better for having him in the squad at them moment. He is closer to the door than others though if we can bring in real quality as a replacement
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Post by nytram on Jan 13, 2019 16:06:34 GMT
Nathan Brown coming on gave us some movement up front. Was calling for the ball to be passed behind the defenders so he could run onto. Dudley although knows where the goal is doesn't do that. Not sure if Smalley knows where the goal is! Mahon and Mooney need players like Brown to pass to. Dudley and Smalley are to square. Noticed Waters knew where Brown was going on a couple of occasions no doubt because they've played together so much. Also funny to see there defenders standing off Brown because he is so small they didn’t know what to do!
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Post by rcb on Jan 13, 2019 17:52:48 GMT
2-0 Chester, Mahon / Dudley 2017 Didnt rate him, poor manager. Poor tactics, poor motivator. Failed on every level for me. Wasn't on my list for the job. Who?
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Post by rcb on Jan 13, 2019 17:55:31 GMT
A taller, stronger keeper comes and claims them all day. Iain Turner, for example in years gone by. But, the keeper has improved a lot recently. Okay, it’s the hoof or nothing but he’s had a fair few suicide back passes in recent games and dealt with them well. Along with making some top draw saves. Won us the game against FCUM. drawer.
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Post by 54321 on Jan 13, 2019 18:01:42 GMT
A taller, stronger keeper comes and claims them all day. Iain Turner, for example in years gone by. But, the keeper has improved a lot recently. Okay, it’s the hoof or nothing but he’s had a fair few suicide back passes in recent games and dealt with them well. Along with making some top draw saves. Won us the game against FCUM. drawer. ?
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Post by btb on Jan 13, 2019 18:14:03 GMT
A taller, stronger keeper comes and claims them all day. Iain Turner, for example in years gone by. But, the keeper has improved a lot recently. Okay, it’s the hoof or nothing but he’s had a fair few suicide back passes in recent games and dealt with them well. Along with making some top draw saves. Won us the game against FCUM. drawer. Wow. Have a day off mate.
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Post by chesterken on Jan 13, 2019 18:18:00 GMT
I thought the big lad up front “Odejayi “ was a real handful up front for them, a player like him would be an ideal foil up top for us alongside Dudley instead of the inafective Smalley.
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Post by paulinem on Jan 13, 2019 21:38:50 GMT
I thought the big lad up front “Odejayi “ was a real handful up front for them, a player like him would be an ideal foil up top for us alongside Dudley instead of the inafective Smalley. Like Akwasi Asante too? 😀
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Post by chesterken on Jan 13, 2019 21:49:32 GMT
I thought the big lad up front “Odejayi “ was a real handful up front for them, a player like him would be an ideal foil up top for us alongside Dudley instead of the inafective Smalley. Like Akwasi Asante too? 😀 They are different type of players, Asante is skill touch, Odejayi is all about using his physicality, but both could bring the best out of Dudley but my first pick would be Asante.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jan 13, 2019 22:05:36 GMT
I thought the big lad up front “Odejayi “ was a real handful up front for them, a player like him would be an ideal foil up top for us alongside Dudley instead of the inafective Smalley. He's been around forever - he was their best player yesterday and he's 36 years old. Similar sort of player to Smalley though, 93 career league goals in 593 appearances. I think our fanbase is always a little too eager to judge strikers on nothing but their goalscoring record. Smalley's hit and miss but he's nowhere near as poor as some people are making out. Same thing happened with Dieseruvwe who had a cracking first couple of games and then suddenly was being lambasted on here because he hadn't scored a goal.
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Post by chesterken on Jan 13, 2019 22:17:17 GMT
I thought the big lad up front “Odejayi “ was a real handful up front for them, a player like him would be an ideal foil up top for us alongside Dudley instead of the inafective Smalley. He's been around forever - he was their best player yesterday and he's 36 years old. Similar sort of player to Smalley though, 93 career league goals in 593 appearances. I think our fanbase is always a little too eager to judge strikers on nothing but their goalscoring record. Smalley's hit and miss but he's nowhere near as poor as some people are making out. Same thing happened with Dieseruvwe who had a cracking first couple of games and then suddenly was being lambasted on here because he hadn't scored a goal. Goals are not how I look at a forward, the Ref yesterday was not going to give any fouls for pushing. So the number 3 kept grabbing and pushing Smalley off the ball, his reaction was instead of giving it back he just winged to the officials.
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Post by MPW on Jan 13, 2019 22:23:07 GMT
Wasn’t it Odejayi who scored the winning goal in the FA Cup replay vs Cheltenham years ago? The winner went on to play Newcastle so he cost us a fair few quid!
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Post by thestanchion on Jan 13, 2019 23:35:36 GMT
Smalley played well on the first 30 minutes, won 4 headers and looked lively Second half zilch. Motm by three country miles and some was Gary Roberts. Are the sponsors too pissed, new to football or told to spread the motm awards around. Think Gary prefers half lager shandy anyway.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jan 14, 2019 0:07:46 GMT
Highlights are up:
Red card all day long.
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Post by MPW on Jan 14, 2019 0:29:19 GMT
Halls won the ball but was more reckless. If there was ever a tackle where both players could have been sent off than that could be it!. Could have gone either way and I think that if the ref had done her homework, then Roberts could have gone because of his reputation which was my fear at the time.
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Post by bazza on Jan 14, 2019 0:32:53 GMT
Cracking shot while ref makes the decision of kingsley james sorting his pony tail out about right for him that! More worried about his image than the game . As for halls wow we never seen a challenge like that did we. never got that close to anyone to put a foot in all season did he . Great ball in by roberts well put away by dudley . Hopefully get the 3 points next week .
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Post by uptheseals on Jan 14, 2019 4:27:40 GMT
As dissapointing the performance was the crowd and atmosphere was absolutely woeful today you'd think with us only losing once all season at home it would be an awful lot better but 1700 with how we're doing is poor
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Post by btb on Jan 14, 2019 7:46:08 GMT
As dissapointing the performance was the crowd and atmosphere was absolutely woeful today you'd think with us only losing once all season at home it would be an awful lot better but 1700 with how we're doing is poor The atmosphere was fine and the crowd got behind them. But yes, very poor attendance for a team with a decent home record.
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Post by uptheseals on Jan 14, 2019 9:18:12 GMT
As dissapointing the performance was the crowd and atmosphere was absolutely woeful today you'd think with us only losing once all season at home it would be an awful lot better but 1700 with how we're doing is poor The atmosphere was fine and the crowd got behind them. But yes, very poor attendance for a team with a decent home record. Other than the odd come on city it was very poor
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Post by johny9 on Jan 14, 2019 9:59:14 GMT
It’s been poor at most games home and away this season
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Jan 14, 2019 10:01:59 GMT
Never an atmosphere at that awful ground. Unless it’s Wrexham or a team with a big away following. Infact, it’s one boring, soulless ground. Actually dread home games. Much prefer away games.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 14, 2019 12:14:07 GMT
WE should have won that game but these things happen. Nothing really dropped for us and we didn't get the little bit of luck we needed. Not great defending for their goal at all, whoever was apportioning blame to Shenton earlier in this thread is being very harsh I think. The referee was abysmal, but that's nothing new. Very strange decisions, and their defenders were growing in confidence that they were completely allowed to manhandle us. On the red card - seconds before the clash as Gary was going in i was actually thinking that Roberts was going to nail him, he doesn't back out of a 50:50 does he? So I think there was some intent from Gary which is why their players were all going mad. Problem was that Halls got there first and so think the red card was right. Virtually the only decent refereeing decision of the game. On certain players: Grand / Waters - anyone suggesting that Waters should play left back ahead of Grand needs their head examining. Waters is an interesting case, I never thought he would be good enough but he has definitely grown in terms of physique and has a bit more about him. he needs a run really to make an informed decision. Smalley is clearly limited but we don't currently have many options. McAllister had a decent debut and provided some experience and additional bite in midfield. Mahon and Mooney are both clearly out of form which is a worry. Jackson is doing well at right back and is showing some great pace. I'd have himn there before Thomson at the moment but it would be good to see him playing as a winger in the future. 2 points dropped and we need to win next Saturday. So he needs a run to make an informed decision but suggesting giving him that run means I need my head examining? Makes sense. Grand has done a great job there in what his clearly not his natural position but he looked 100% more assured at CB. Additionally, we’ve been strong at the back with Livesey & Howson but we’ve struggled going forward especially since Mahon & Mooney are out of form. Waters has looked a real threat going forward in the last few games. I’d also add that anyone who would suggest dropping Thomson for a winger playing out of position might be the one who needs to reassess their opinions. Probably points to a return to the 3-5-2 setup for Saturday then, with Grand back in a natural position, Jackson and Waters wing-backs and Blacon Pirlo, McAllister and Green in a midfield three all offering something different. It puts players in more accustomed positions and drops the poorly performing wingers. Only issue is who partners Dudley - may have to be Smalley again unless we give “Smally” (Nathan Brown) a surprise start.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 14, 2019 12:20:08 GMT
Never an atmosphere at that awful ground. Unless it’s Wrexham or a team with a big away following. Infact, it’s one boring, soulless ground. Actually dread home games. Much prefer away games. Don't really think the ground is an excuse. Gateshead have about the most unatmospheric ground around and they're still a noisy lot at home.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 14, 2019 12:22:17 GMT
Highlights are up: Red card all day long. I think Halls is a bit unlucky myself. He did win the ball.
If we want players to go for 50/50 balls, maybe we have to stop the theatrics and accept that if two players go in for it, one of them is going to be late and somebody will probably come off worse. It is a physical game.
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Post by luckyblue on Jan 14, 2019 14:07:53 GMT
After watching Rio’s highlights I have changed my mind completely. The Halls/Roberts tackle happened right in front of me on Saturday and I was baying with the rest of the crowd for a red card. Now...I think it was a decent but firm challenge.
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