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Post by sealandender1 on Aug 28, 2019 13:07:01 GMT
Didn’t Vaughan have links to Malta? Exactly, I smell a big rat!
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Post by Wortleyblue on Aug 28, 2019 17:27:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 20:44:40 GMT
Bury saga is a long way from being over even though they have been expelled
@adamc433 on Twitter does a lot on the Club and has tweeted some interesting stuff today regarding takeovers
Seems Steve Dale has been ignoring his phone
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Post by wxmred on Aug 28, 2019 20:53:00 GMT
latest.
A consortium has £7m in the bank and is ready to complete a takeover of Bury, if the EFL agrees to reinstate the club, Sky Sports News understands.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 20:59:42 GMT
A Brazilian pastor apparently
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Post by thebluecamp on Aug 28, 2019 22:41:32 GMT
A Brazilian pastor apparently I heard it was an Italian pastor,
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 29, 2019 6:34:08 GMT
Bury saga is a long way from being over even though they have been expelled @adamc433 on Twitter does a lot on the Club and has tweeted some interesting stuff today regarding takeovers Seems Steve Dale has been ignoring his phone Not a pop at the OP, but where where these bids when everyone knew what was happening weeks ago. I saw an interview with the local MP on TV last night, spouting a load of tripe at how the EFL should reinstate them because there are people out there who want to takeover the club, all in front of an eagerly listening on crowd. The EFL are not to blame here, the club and in that i mean the Chairman is to blame here. The EFL have given them every chance in recent weeks. They were promoted last season on money they didn't have and ultimately have gone bust. Anyone associated with Mansfield Town must be fuming as they finished fourth legitimately and within their means but had to go out via the play offs.
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Post by agl on Aug 29, 2019 7:11:57 GMT
I'm finding Phil Neville's wailing a bit hard to stomach. Does he not realise that he's part of the problem, paying Adam Rooney a reputed 4K a WEEK to play non league football at Salford last season. Reputedly doubled his wages after moving from Aberdeen in the Scottish Premier. Ridiculous wage bills are at the heart of the issue at clubs like Bury, and they are being driven up by the likes of Neville and the other sugar daddies.
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Post by Churton Blue on Aug 29, 2019 8:10:19 GMT
Bury saga is a long way from being over even though they have been expelled @adamc433 on Twitter does a lot on the Club and has tweeted some interesting stuff today regarding takeovers Seems Steve Dale has been ignoring his phone Not a pop at the OP, but where where these bids when everyone knew what was happening weeks ago. I saw an interview with the local MP on TV last night, spouting a load of tripe at how the EFL should reinstate them because there are people out there who want to takeover the club, all in front of an eagerly listening on crowd. The EFL are not to blame here, the club and in that i mean the Chairman is to blame here. The EFL have given them every chance in recent weeks. They were promoted last season on money they didn't have and ultimately have gone bust. Anyone associated with Mansfield Town must be fuming as they finished fourth legitimately and within their means but had to go out via the play offs. Whilst I agree that the EFL have done the right thing in the current circumstances it does require major changes in the way football is run to prevent people like Day, Dale and Anderson ruining football clubs. When it comes to governance and financial regulation the EFL and National League are an utter disgrace. Hardly surprising though as they are controlled by the bad owners that need bringing in to line. It does need the FA working with Government to facilitate and force through the changes needed to save the game from the egotists, con men and crooks. The following link is to a rather long article but it is well worth reading to the end as Dr Rob Wilson from Sheffield University is spot on in my opinion. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49495387
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Post by Churton Blue on Aug 29, 2019 8:15:19 GMT
I'm finding Phil Neville's wailing a bit hard to stomach. Does he not realise that he's part of the problem, paying Adam Rooney a reputed 4K a WEEK to play non league football at Salford last season. Reputedly doubled his wages after moving from Aberdeen in the Scottish Premier. Ridiculous wage bills are at the heart of the issue at clubs like Bury, and they are being driven up by the likes of Neville and the other sugar daddies. Indeed he is ! A bad owner running a football club in an unsustainable manner which has a knock on effect to other clubs.
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Post by Forever Blue on Aug 29, 2019 9:02:15 GMT
I'm finding Phil Neville's wailing a bit hard to stomach. Does he not realise that he's part of the problem, paying Adam Rooney a reputed 4K a WEEK to play non league football at Salford last season. Reputedly doubled his wages after moving from Aberdeen in the Scottish Premier. Ridiculous wage bills are at the heart of the issue at clubs like Bury, and they are being driven up by the likes of Neville and the other sugar daddies. Indeed he is ! A bad owner running a football club in an unsustainable manner which has a knock on effect to other clubs. Bang on and how many times does it happen that the FL allow people like him to candy coat clubs until they get bored and pull out, clubs should have to live within their means. If the FL had any morals at all they would never allow this to happen but hey welcome to the fair game
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 29, 2019 11:31:29 GMT
This is just the tip of the iceberg and I would expect more and more clubs to come close to going out of business. Oldham, Macclesfield, Reading, Coventry, Birmingham... Salford will go pop eventually too with such an unsustainable ownership. The FA and the EFL are complicit in all of this.
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Post by oldsealandroadender on Aug 29, 2019 11:45:08 GMT
Didn't there used to be some kind of fair play rule about total wage bills being linked to money coming through the turnstiles? That way the likes of FGR wouldn't be able to run at a season loss of £1.5 million paying wages far in excess of fellow clubs, enticing other clubs to to it also without a long term way of paying for it.
Championship clubs chasing the holy grail of the Premier League are losing £10 million a week collectively according to a recent report. How can it go on without more clubs becoming insolvent and getting expelled from leagues or disappearing completely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 11:55:37 GMT
If they do go under we will lose out on a fee for Jordan Archer when he finds a new Club
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Post by jb on Aug 29, 2019 12:20:46 GMT
Bury saga is a long way from being over even though they have been expelled @adamc433 on Twitter does a lot on the Club and has tweeted some interesting stuff today regarding takeovers Seems Steve Dale has been ignoring his phone Not a pop at the OP, but where where these bids when everyone knew what was happening weeks ago. I saw an interview with the local MP on TV last night, spouting a load of tripe at how the EFL should reinstate them because there are people out there who want to takeover the club, all in front of an eagerly listening on crowd. The EFL are not to blame here, the club and in that i mean the Chairman is to blame here. The EFL have given them every chance in recent weeks. They were promoted last season on money they didn't have and ultimately have gone bust. Anyone associated with Mansfield Town must be fuming as they finished fourth legitimately and within their means but had to go out via the play offs. These new rumours are as bad as the ones telling us Exeter had scored against Shrewsbury in May 2000. Giving the Bury fans false hope is cruel and unfair to them. They need to channel their energies in getting a new club up and running and not having to keep getting back up from media inspired body blows like this.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Aug 29, 2019 13:30:48 GMT
If they do go under we will lose out on a fee for Jordan Archer when he finds a new Club That may depend if the administrators get a fee for him, we will be in a long line of creditors.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 29, 2019 16:40:02 GMT
Steve Dale bought Bury on 7 December 2018. 11 days later he set up two new companies, Bury Heritage and Bury Leisure, and started transferring assets to them, including the club’s trophies. Some would describe this as the action of a sociopathic asset stripper, rather than a well-meaning owner who had never heard of Bury and didn’t know it had a football club...
The mystery consortium’s £7m wouldn’t touch the sides of that gaping hole of debt.
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Post by avfo on Aug 29, 2019 16:45:02 GMT
If they do go under we will lose out on a fee for Jordan Archer when he finds a new Club That may depend if the administrators get a fee for him, we will be in a long line of creditors. Bury have broken the terms of his contract by failing to pay his wages so I assume he is now a free agent. Been reading some comments by Gareth Roberts ( the born in Bradford, made his money in the USA benefactor) who wants a wage cap brought in. He also admitted that BPA lost over £200,000 last season and he was still having to subsidise the club this year to the tune of £5,000 per week.
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Post by waggoner on Aug 29, 2019 17:41:37 GMT
Didn't there used to be some kind of fair play rule about total wage bills being linked to money coming through the turnstiles? That way the likes of FGR wouldn't be able to run at a season loss of £1.5 million paying wages far in excess of fellow clubs, enticing other clubs to to it also without a long term way of paying for it. Championship clubs chasing the holy grail of the Premier League are losing £10 million a week collectively according to a recent report. How can it go on without more clubs becoming insolvent and getting expelled from leagues or disappearing completely. Clubs in the National league are doing the same to get to the football league....madness
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 30, 2019 7:34:30 GMT
The consortium that “saved” Bolton only have enough funding for three years. Then it’s back to the same old.
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 30, 2019 16:13:52 GMT
The amount of money the parasite Mino Raiola takes out of the game each season would have saved both these clubs.
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Post by rcb on Aug 30, 2019 16:29:12 GMT
Anyone know if Bolton have been disciplined for their cancellation of the match v Doncaster, or has their favoured treatment bu EFL escaped that as well?
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Post by Hannibal on Aug 30, 2019 21:56:23 GMT
Multi millionaire Nick Mason, ex-drummer of Pink Floyd is part of the consortium that has bought Bolton Wanderers.
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Post by prodigal on Aug 30, 2019 22:55:05 GMT
"Money, it's a gas Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash"
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Post by The Swansway on Sept 1, 2019 12:55:07 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Sept 1, 2019 15:02:26 GMT
There's now a campaign to allow Bury to start next season in League 2. Not sure I agree with that myself. There needs to be more of a deterrent than being demoted one division, or any club facing relegation could just sack off their fixtures.
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Post by wendel on Sept 1, 2019 15:15:16 GMT
Why would they sack off their fixtures if they're going to get relegated anyway? Season ticket holders have paid for those games for a start.
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Post by RonD on Sept 1, 2019 15:27:33 GMT
If they do go under we will lose out on a fee for Jordan Archer when he finds a new Club He has signed a one year deal with Port Vale.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 1, 2019 16:21:38 GMT
He's living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks they are only expelled for one season. There's no way the league will let them start in L1 next season. He clearly doesn't know much about football.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 18:03:44 GMT
He's living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks they are only expelled for one season. There's no way the league will let them start in L1 next season. He clearly doesn't know much about football. Well he didn’t even know they had a football team in Bury!
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