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Post by uptheseals on Sept 9, 2019 15:44:48 GMT
Can't agree with it being a terrible or boring draw. If they price it right should be 1,500 at least, based on our current form . . . and Alty will bring a few. It’s the fa cup surely 2k there ? 1500 is awful for how well we’re doing
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 9, 2019 15:48:32 GMT
Obviously STH’s would have to pay on the gate hence the likelihood of a lesser attendance than normal, generally speaking.
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Post by bluey7 on Sept 9, 2019 16:34:04 GMT
we just need to concentrate on it when it comes around and win, not like last season when we fuck up and lost to a team 2 leagues below
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Post by eltonblues on Sept 9, 2019 16:38:02 GMT
Reading their forum they're moaning about only one turnstile being open usually, have they ever brought enough to warrant giving them the South Stand?
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Post by hbomb on Sept 9, 2019 16:40:27 GMT
Reading their forum they're moaning about only one turnstile being open usually, have they ever brought enough to warrant giving them the South Stand? No rarely bring big numbers. Don’t usually bring more than 200. Still might be a few more in Cup. Still doubt it’ll be in the south stand.
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Post by RonD on Sept 9, 2019 16:41:58 GMT
Obviously STH’s would have to pay on the gate hence the likelihood of a lesser attendance than normal, generally speaking. That's what normally happens. Maybe a tenner everywhere will be a good price to entice a decent crowd?
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Post by MPW on Sept 9, 2019 18:32:25 GMT
Not a great draw, but I’m sure that the Alty fans will be very happy seeing as we are such a poor team.
We owe them one!
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Post by chesterken on Sept 9, 2019 19:33:01 GMT
Not a great draw, but I’m sure that the Alty fans will be very happy seeing as we are such a poor team. We owe them one! We didn’t have Asante or Hughes up front when we played last time😊🤙
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Post by chesterblueboy on Sept 9, 2019 19:33:34 GMT
Obviously STH’s would have to pay on the gate hence the likelihood of a lesser attendance than normal, generally speaking. That's what normally happens. Maybe a tenner everywhere will be a good price to entice a decent crowd? Not sure we need to reduce the prices for this (would understand if we were playing a lower non league side), surely we should be encouraging the fans to get behind the team & get down to the Deva for a local derby! We’re playing so well at home, we owe them a beating and it’s the FA Cup!! If we get say 1,750 at full price, how many extra would we need to get if we reduced the prices by £5 in the stand?? (According to my calculations if you say the average admission price is £13 at full price, even if we dropped the price to £10 and we got an extra 500 fans (unlikely in my opinion) we’d still be worse off!!)
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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Sept 10, 2019 9:22:21 GMT
That's what normally happens. Maybe a tenner everywhere will be a good price to entice a decent crowd? Not sure we need to reduce the prices for this (would understand if we were playing a lower non league side), surely we should be encouraging the fans to get behind the team & get down to the Deva for a local derby! We’re playing so well at home, we owe them a beating and it’s the FA Cup!! If we get say 1,750 at full price, how many extra would we need to get if we reduced the prices by £5 in the stand?? (According to my calculations if you say the average admission price is £13 at full price, even if we dropped the price to £10 and we got an extra 500 fans (unlikely in my opinion) we’d still be worse off!!) Tenner to get in and a quid for kids. Make it appealing to the fans
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Post by uptheseals on Sept 10, 2019 9:44:00 GMT
Not sure we need to reduce the prices for this (would understand if we were playing a lower non league side), surely we should be encouraging the fans to get behind the team & get down to the Deva for a local derby! We’re playing so well at home, we owe them a beating and it’s the FA Cup!! If we get say 1,750 at full price, how many extra would we need to get if we reduced the prices by £5 in the stand?? (According to my calculations if you say the average admission price is £13 at full price, even if we dropped the price to £10 and we got an extra 500 fans (unlikely in my opinion) we’d still be worse off!!) Tenner to get in and a quid for kids. Make it appealing to the fans Prices we have are fine Just needs to be advertised properly
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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Sept 10, 2019 11:07:30 GMT
Tenner to get in and a quid for kids. Make it appealing to the fans Prices we have are fine Just needs to be advertised properly Why are the prices fine?
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Post by eyeswideopen on Sept 10, 2019 11:40:54 GMT
That's what normally happens. Maybe a tenner everywhere will be a good price to entice a decent crowd? Not sure we need to reduce the prices for this (would understand if we were playing a lower non league side), surely we should be encouraging the fans to get behind the team & get down to the Deva for a local derby! We’re playing so well at home, we owe them a beating and it’s the FA Cup!! If we get say 1,750 at full price, how many extra would we need to get if we reduced the prices by £5 in the stand?? (According to my calculations if you say the average admission price is £13 at full price, even if we dropped the price to £10 and we got an extra 500 fans (unlikely in my opinion) we’d still be worse off!!) If we drop it by a fiver, we are in realistic terms only dropping it by £2-50 ish for us as we have to give Alty almost half of the gate receipts with a very small percentage going to the FA i think. Problems with this is, we need both parties to agree to it though in order to do it. The real money for me in this tie is not the gate receipts but for winning the tie and progressing, we stand more of a chance by doing that getting behind the team. As ST holders have to pay for the tie, i expect around 1600 tops to pay on the day, with around 200-250 Alty, which we should take full advantage of the vocal support. By encouraging more people in through the gate with lesser prices we then maybe encourage more Alty to attend. Its a tough call, but for me stick with the same prices and do our best to get behind the lads with what we have.
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Post by uptheseals on Sept 10, 2019 12:38:46 GMT
Prices we have are fine Just needs to be advertised properly Why are the prices fine? Because make them any cheaper and it will pretty much be free to get in and the club won’t make any money We can’t afford to keep lowering them because people can’t be bothered We rely on our gate receipts as one of our main sources of income Look at other clubs prices compared to ours and you’ll find there’s nothing wrong with ours
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Post by mcseal on Sept 10, 2019 12:39:07 GMT
If we drop it by a fiver, we are in realistic terms only dropping it by £2-50 ish for us as we have to give Alty almost half of the gate receipts with a very small percentage going to the FA i think.Problems with this is, we need both parties to agree to it though in order to do it. The real money for me in this tie is not the gate receipts but for winning the tie and progressing, we stand more of a chance by doing that getting behind the team. As ST holders have to pay for the tie, i expect around 1600 tops to pay on the day, with around 200-250 Alty, which we should take full advantage of the vocal support. By encouraging more people in through the gate with lesser prices we then maybe encourage more Alty to attend. Its a tough call, but for me stick with the same prices and do our best to get behind the lads with what we have. FA don't take a cut until the semi finals now. Uninterestingly , if we (or any non league team) got to the third round proper and played a league or premier league team we would be entitled to 55% of the gate money. NB Losing teams in the qualifying rounds now get a share of the prize money. I.e win the second qualifying round and you pocket £6,750, win the third qualifying round and you pocket £11,250 and then lose in the fourth qualifying round and you still get another £6,250. So a total of £24,250 (plus share of gate money from three games) for winning just 2 games. Hugely important for non league teams to get a bit of a run going. Even more important for a fan owned club with no sugar daddy subsidising it.
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Post by RonD on Sept 15, 2019 7:24:12 GMT
Notice on the Facebook event for this it says something along the lines of 'prices to be advised'. Hopefully a decent gate.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 15, 2019 14:28:52 GMT
we just need to concentrate on it when it comes around and win, not like last season when we fuck up and lost to a team 2 leagues below I think Dunstan UTS were 3 leagues below?
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 15, 2019 14:32:09 GMT
Not sure we need to reduce the prices for this (would understand if we were playing a lower non league side), surely we should be encouraging the fans to get behind the team & get down to the Deva for a local derby! We’re playing so well at home, we owe them a beating and it’s the FA Cup!! If we get say 1,750 at full price, how many extra would we need to get if we reduced the prices by £5 in the stand?? (According to my calculations if you say the average admission price is £13 at full price, even if we dropped the price to £10 and we got an extra 500 fans (unlikely in my opinion) we’d still be worse off!!) Tenner to get in and a quid for kids. Make it appealing to the fans I'm sure that the away team has to agree to a price reduction and they are hardly going to do that as they would be agreeing to a smaller 'take' at the gate.
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Post by steveo1 on Sept 15, 2019 14:35:26 GMT
All of sudden this is a massive football match, we finally have a team that can go on in the cup and make this club some real money.
To many times in the past we have gone out with a wimper against teams no better than us or had such a poor team we had no chance of progression.
I would bring in Matty Thompson right back and keep Jacko on the wing, with plenty of options to come off the bench.
Win this and we are two games from round 1 - we have only reached round 1 once since reformation - would be a great time for another cup run as the club has a buzz about it at the moment with the managers getting the best out the players on the pitch and in turn the players putting in the performances.
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Post by jimianto on Sept 16, 2019 8:20:17 GMT
All of sudden this is a massive football match, we finally have a team that can go on in the cup and make this club some real money. To many times in the past we have gone out with a wimper against teams no better than us or had such a poor team we had no chance of progression. I would bring in Matty Thompson right back and keep Jacko on the wing, with plenty of options to come off the bench. Win this and we are two games from round 1 - we have only reached round 1 once since reformation - would be a great time for another cup run as the club has a buzz about it at the moment with the managers getting the best out the players on the pitch and in turn the players putting in the performances.
It's a real headache that one. On one hand, it's true Brad has been on fire and assisting for fun lately, but on the other, could young Matty keep out their star winger Johnson? I would start with Brad there, with Matty on the bench and see how things pan out. Possibly give Elliot a chance out wide, or Mahon.
One thing's for sure, we need to show up and get through this tie. There's serious money to be made and this team has a massive opportunity to do that. Last 4 seasons exits have been beyond bad.
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Post by Imperial on Sept 16, 2019 9:52:25 GMT
All of sudden this is a massive football match, we finally have a team that can go on in the cup and make this club some real money. To many times in the past we have gone out with a wimper against teams no better than us or had such a poor team we had no chance of progression. I would bring in Matty Thompson right back and keep Jacko on the wing, with plenty of options to come off the bench. Win this and we are two games from round 1 - we have only reached round 1 once since reformation - would be a great time for another cup run as the club has a buzz about it at the moment with the managers getting the best out the players on the pitch and in turn the players putting in the performances.
It's a real headache that one. On one hand, it's true Brad has been on fire and assisting for fun lately, but on the other, could young Matty keep out their star winger Johnson? I would start with Brad there, with Matty on the bench and see how things pan out. Possibly give Elliot a chance out wide, or Mahon.
One thing's for sure, we need to show up and get through this tie. There's serious money to be made and this team has a massive opportunity to do that. Last 4 seasons exits have been beyond bad.
I understand the hesitation but Jacko is a winger, when he was playing further back he struggled at times. Matty is a full back, a more defensive player & IMO is a better full back than Jacko. Matty proved himself very capable of dealing with more senior opposition players several times last season & with Livesey & Grand next to him to help coach him there’s no doubt in my mind that he should get the nod.
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Post by RonD on Sept 16, 2019 11:07:22 GMT
Not long announced . . . normal league admission prices for this game.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 16, 2019 12:17:59 GMT
Not long announced . . . normal league admission prices for this game. … and so it should be ~~~ we're not a charity.
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Post by RonD on Sept 16, 2019 13:04:43 GMT
Not long announced . . . normal league admission prices for this game. … and so it should be ~~~ we're not a charity. Ok, let's see how many season ticket holders bother.
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Post by Ian H Block on Sept 16, 2019 13:26:13 GMT
… and so it should be ~~~ we're not a charity. Ok, let's see how many season ticket holders bother. I’ll be there, but will probably be on the Harry Mac instead of sitting in East Stand.
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Post by bing on Sept 16, 2019 14:43:37 GMT
When we had our last decent cup run, as we were one of the non-league clubs who made it through to the First Round proper, didn't that mean we then shared a proportion of the 'Replay' gates further along in the competition? I may have imagined it, but I think we made over £20k for this, maybe more.
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Post by avfo on Sept 16, 2019 16:26:20 GMT
When we had our last decent cup run, as we were one of the non-league clubs who made it through to the First Round proper, didn't that mean we then shared a proportion of the 'Replay' gates further along in the competition? I may have imagined it, but I think we made over £20k for this, maybe more. It did indeed happen but not anymore, the rules were changed in 2018 so now read as follows - Subject to Rules 22(k) and (l), net gate receipts shall be divided as follows: (i) In all matches prior to the Third Round of the Competition Proper the net gate receipts of each match shall be divided equally between the competing Clubs. (ii) Save for those matches set out in (iii), in all matches played from (and including) the Third Round of the Competition Proper prior to the Semi-Final the net gate receipts of each match shall be divided equally between the competing Clubs.
(iii) In all matches played from (and including) the Third Round of the Competition Proper prior to the Semi-Final, involving Clubs outside The FA Premier League or The English Football League playing against Clubs from The FA Premier League or The English Football League, the net gate receipts of each match shall be divided between the Clubs competing in each match as follows: 55% to Clubs outside The FA Premier League or The English Football League. 45% to FA Premier League or English Football League Clubs.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 16, 2019 17:31:42 GMT
… and so it should be ~~~ we're not a charity. Ok, let's see how many season ticket holders bother. Lowering the price won't make a difference. I'm a ST holder and will be going. Often's the case that I can't go.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 16, 2019 17:51:03 GMT
Ok, let's see how many season ticket holders bother. Lowering the price won't make a difference. I'm a ST holder and will be going. Often's the case that I can't go. Don't forget as well that Altrincham will get a share of the gate receipts, so I think any price reduction would have to be agreed with them.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 16, 2019 19:23:24 GMT
Lowering the price won't make a difference. I'm a ST holder and will be going. Often's the case that I can't go. Don't forget as well that Altrincham will get a share of the gate receipts, so I think any price reduction would have to be agreed with them. Already said that in a previous post in this thread.
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