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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 15, 2019 7:43:09 GMT
Just couldnt resist that headline. All joking aside, it seems that they have have committed the same mistakes, that led to out downfall and relegation. A weak board of a fans own club, appointing a rookie manager and players on decent contracts either not good enough or underperforming. It was always going to be questionable appointing Hughes, who was assistant manager of Scarborough, on a 3 and a hslf year contract and it looks like it has back fired spectscularly. We know from experience how quickly things can spiral out of control both on and off the pitch. Poor performancez lead to lower gates, which leads to less finance, whuch is felt much more keenly by fan owned clubs. Abd we also know from experience that once you get sucked into a relegation battle; it is difficult to get out of it Red Passion is in meltdown and is calling for the sacking of the board Hughes and Darlington And we look like we are getting our act together. Oh Happy Days!
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Post by loskasleftfoot on Sept 15, 2019 8:39:56 GMT
Dear me, what a shame, never mind 😊
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Sept 15, 2019 9:00:07 GMT
With their support they should be nowhere near the bottom four.
What's going at Fylde by the way, finished in the play-offs last year and are doing marginally worse than Wrexham now? With their ability to throw around millions of someone else's money I didn't expect such a poor start from them.
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Post by chesterken on Sept 15, 2019 9:15:40 GMT
With their support they should be nowhere near the bottom four. What's going at Fylde by the way, finished in the play-offs last year and are doing marginally worse than Wrexham now? With their ability to throw around millions of someone else's money I didn't expect such a poor start from them. You can add Chesterfield to that list as well a big club with a big budget who are struggling, Harrogate and Boringwood although not well supported clubs are having a bad start as they usually have lots of cash to slash.
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Post by combover on Sept 15, 2019 9:32:36 GMT
Just couldnt resist that headline. All joking aside, it seems that they have have committed the same mistakes, that led to out downfall and relegation. A weak board of a fans own club, appointing a rookie manager and players on decent contracts either not good enough or underperforming. It was always going to be questionable appointing Hughes, who was assistant manager of Scarborough, on a 3 and a hslf year contract and it looks like it has back fired spectscularly. We know from experience how quickly things can spiral out of control both on and off the pitch. Poor performancez lead to lower gates, which leads to less finance, whuch is felt much more keenly by fan owned clubs. Abd we also know from experience that once you get sucked into a relegation battle; it is difficult to get out of it Red Passion is in meltdown and is calling for the sacking of the board Hughes and Darlington And we look like we are getting our act together. Oh Happy Days! Do we really want them to do so badly as they need to sack Hughes . If I'm not mistaken isn't Flynn back there as assistant manager , if he gets the nod there remember where he started with them bottom of the football League and finished , playoffs to get into what's now the championship ,umpteen cupruns new training ground etc,and they got rid of him because he was a failure .They are deluded aren't they
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Post by g1 on Sept 15, 2019 9:53:21 GMT
Its there own fault for giving rookie managers who only experience is in footgolf 3 year contracts giving Oswell who people remember wanted at Chester a big contract all adds up I'm afraid also think Flynn has far too much influence there but long may it continue
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Post by Moltisanti on Sept 15, 2019 9:54:52 GMT
Long may it continue.
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Post by devablue on Sept 15, 2019 10:36:08 GMT
Their board consistently recruit managers who are out of their depth and its brilliant to see
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 15, 2019 11:11:26 GMT
Their board consistently recruit managers who are out of their depth and its brilliant to see Erm, Keates and Ricketts?
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Post by devablue on Sept 15, 2019 11:36:08 GMT
Their board consistently recruit managers who are out of their depth and its brilliant to see Erm, Keates and Ricketts? Not sure i would include Keates but Ricketts is fair enough. Gary Mills and Kevin Wilkin before that.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 15, 2019 12:19:45 GMT
Keates, like Ricketts, was poached by a club two leagues above. Couldn’t have been that far out of his depth.
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Post by devablue on Sept 15, 2019 13:17:51 GMT
Keates, like Ricketts, was poached by a club two leagues above. Couldn’t have been that far out of his depth. Win percentage at Wrexham 35.6%, at Walsall it was 30%, then he was sacked just before the club was relegated. Not had another job since 6th April.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 15, 2019 13:31:34 GMT
Just couldnt resist that headline. All joking aside, it seems that they have have committed the same mistakes, that led to out downfall and relegation. A weak board of a fans own club, appointing a rookie manager and players on decent contracts either not good enough or underperforming. It was always going to be questionable appointing Hughes, who was assistant manager of Scarborough, on a 3 and a hslf year contract and it looks like it has back fired spectscularly. We know from experience how quickly things can spiral out of control both on and off the pitch. Poor performancez lead to lower gates, which leads to less finance, whuch is felt much more keenly by fan owned clubs. Abd we also know from experience that once you get sucked into a relegation battle; it is difficult to get out of it Red Passion is in meltdown and is calling for the sacking of the board Hughes and Darlington And we look like we are getting our act together. Oh Happy Days! What have the Quakers done?
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Post by gezzer on Sept 15, 2019 13:42:50 GMT
Its there own fault for giving rookie managers who only experience is in footgolf 3 year contracts giving Oswell who people remember wanted at Chester a big contract all adds up I'm afraid also think Flynn has far too much influence there but long may it continue Made £££S in compensation by taking gambles on both Keates and Ricketts the latter after only a few months in charge.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 15, 2019 14:20:34 GMT
Just couldnt resist that headline. All joking aside, it seems that they have have committed the same mistakes, that led to out downfall and relegation. A weak board of a fans own club, appointing a rookie manager and players on decent contracts either not good enough or underperforming. It was always going to be questionable appointing Hughes, who was assistant manager of Scarborough, on a 3 and a hslf year contract and it looks like it has back fired spectscularly. We know from experience how quickly things can spiral out of control both on and off the pitch. Poor performancez lead to lower gates, which leads to less finance, whuch is felt much more keenly by fan owned clubs. Abd we also know from experience that once you get sucked into a relegation battle; it is difficult to get out of it Red Passion is in meltdown and is calling for the sacking of the board Hughes and Darlington And we look like we are getting our act together. Oh Happy Days! What have the Quakers done? Carl Darlington Head of Coach Education at the Welsh FA and part time coach at Wrexham. He appears to be getting as much stick, as Hughes.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 15, 2019 14:26:14 GMT
Have they still got their £1m in bank from the sale of that reserve GK from Liverpool to Leicester?
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Post by waggoner on Sept 15, 2019 14:31:14 GMT
Who would really want to manage that lot? start to lose any matches and the knives are out. Totally deluded fanbase with very high and unrealistic expectations.
They think that they are too big for the National league and see themselves as a 'League one' club. Because of the need to get into the F/L they end up paying off
managers (every season) who fail mainly because like us they are not bankrolled and have to live within their means, this restricts the type of player you can afford.
They also have a nasty habit of going for cheap and untried managers in the hope they can find the magic formula. it's 12 years since they have played a match
in the Football league, and going up this year looks very unlikely too. They should take a leaf out of our book and 'embrace the shitness'.
Unlike them WE as a club do not class ourselves as 'non league royalty'.
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Post by waggoner on Sept 15, 2019 14:33:45 GMT
Have they still got their £1m in bank from the sale of that reserve GK from Liverpool to Leicester? Knowing Leicester they are paying it on the drip based on appearances and stuff like that so I doubt if they have any money in the bank off the sale. Any money they do get will just patch up shortfalls etc
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Post by steveo1 on Sept 15, 2019 14:39:10 GMT
Sutton were in worse form than themselves going into the game and only through a late red and a penalty they salvaged a point - think it will reach a head where the manager will depart and a new guy will come in to lift them up the table.
They arent a bad team, but stuck in a bad rut with the management currently.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 15, 2019 16:06:42 GMT
Who would really want to manage that lot? start to lose any matches and the knives are out. Totally deluded fanbase with very high and unrealistic expectations. They think that they are too big for the National league and see themselves as a 'League one' club. Because of the need to get into the F/L they end up paying off managers (every season) who fail mainly because like us they are not bankrolled and have to live within their means, this restricts the type of player you can afford. They also have a nasty habit of going for cheap and untried managers in the hope they can find the magic formula. it's 12 years since they have played a match in the Football league, and going up this year looks very unlikely too. They should take a leaf out of our book and 'embrace the shitness'. Unlike them WE as a club do not class ourselves as 'non league royalty'. They were talking about Ian Holloway or Mark Hughes as managers on Goat Passion. Harrison from the Druids more like.
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Post by Si on Sept 16, 2019 7:44:09 GMT
Who would really want to manage that lot? start to lose any matches and the knives are out. Totally deluded fanbase with very high and unrealistic expectations. They think that they are too big for the National league and see themselves as a 'League one' club. Because of the need to get into the F/L they end up paying off managers (every season) who fail mainly because like us they are not bankrolled and have to live within their means, this restricts the type of player you can afford. They also have a nasty habit of going for cheap and untried managers in the hope they can find the magic formula. it's 12 years since they have played a match in the Football league, and going up this year looks very unlikely too. They should take a leaf out of our book and 'embrace the shitness'. Unlike them WE as a club do not class ourselves as 'non league royalty'. They were talking about Ian Holloway or Mark Hughes as managers on Goat Passion. Harrison from the Druids more like. Harrison? If it's Craig Harrison you refer to then last time I checked he was assistant to Andy Morrison at Nomads. Druids manager is Hugh Griffiths, who has done an excellent job there and has the highest coaching qualification you can get, but I think the Goats are too snobby to ever consider giving a Cymru Premier manager a go - they prefer hiring rookie ex pro's or footgolf managers.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 16, 2019 7:57:51 GMT
They've been unlucky in a way in that on the rare occasions they've made a good managerial appointment and looked like being promoted, they've lost their manager to a bigger club. However, they've then made bad appointments and lost their momentum.
Hughes' only real credentials, as far as I can see it, are that he was a popular former player there. It would be like us appointing Daryl Clare or Stuart Rimmer as manager. It's was a "let's bring back the glory days!" appointment rather than one that deals with the here and now, and was basically an act of folly from their supporter-run board - especially on a 3.5 year contract if that's true.
One of the hardest things about 18 months ago was that we had to accept that they were a far better example of a fan-owned club than we were. Today, I think we're doing the better job of it.
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Post by Forever Blue on Sept 16, 2019 7:59:09 GMT
There next three matches against Aldershot AFC Fylde and Ebbsfleet are must wins for them or they are deep in the sh1t.
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Post by RonD on Sept 16, 2019 8:12:55 GMT
Hughes could be gone today. Statement being issued apparently.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 16, 2019 8:22:49 GMT
There next three matches against Aldershot AFC Fylde and Ebbsfleet are must wins for them or they are deep in the sh1t. Aldershot and Fylde are away games. If they dont pick up some points. They may be deep in trouble by the time they play Ebbsfleet. I also notice there is a distinct absence of gloating goats on our forum these day
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Post by Al on Sept 16, 2019 8:45:02 GMT
Hughes could be gone today. Statement being issued apparently. Announce Carlton Palmer
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 16, 2019 8:49:39 GMT
Have they still got their £1m in bank from the sale of that reserve GK from Liverpool to Leicester? Knowing Leicester they are paying it on the drip based on appearances and stuff like that so I doubt if they have any money in the bank off the sale. Any money they do get will just patch up shortfalls etc Do you think? £1m is loose change to a team like Leicester.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 16, 2019 8:55:08 GMT
What surprises me about the Goat's league is that our nemesis Woking are top. Dropped just 3 points all season.
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Post by bing on Sept 16, 2019 8:58:43 GMT
There next three matches against Aldershot AFC Fylde and Ebbsfleet are must wins for them or they are deep in the sh1t. Aldershot and Fylde are away games. If they dont pick up some points. They may be deep in trouble by the time they play Ebbsfleet. I also notice there is a distinct absence of gloating goats on our forum these dayYes, I noticed that too. Plus an absence of ones masquerading as Chester fans too.
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Post by waggoner on Sept 16, 2019 10:03:28 GMT
Knowing Leicester they are paying it on the drip based on appearances and stuff like that so I doubt if they have any money in the bank off the sale. Any money they do get will just patch up shortfalls etc Do you think? £1m is loose change to a team like Leicester. How long did it take them to pay us 100k?. Just because they 'could' pay it in full does not mean they have. The fact the goats have not recruited better players is a clue to that IMO
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