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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 18:52:38 GMT
Decent point my arris, 7 games without a win, posters saying anything less than a win against alfreton will be poor, agree, so it's over to the dynamic trio of morley, johnson and robinson to sort it out asap Considering they have not lost at home for 11 Months in the League i reckon it was
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Post by chesterken on Nov 2, 2019 18:58:39 GMT
A Crowd of 476 there today, How on earth can they be a decent side going for the Play Offs on that. Seems like a section of the Southport fan base are boycotting games at the moment, don’t know why but it’s not a happy place at the moment considering the teams position in the league.
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Post by tarvinblue on Nov 2, 2019 19:55:53 GMT
On the face of it a point at Brackley is a decent result, however it is only decent if we are winning the games we should be winning elsewhere. Currently this isn't the case. Whether the managers like it or not Asante is the difference. With him we generally win, without him we don't. What's more we also look toothless without him. Elliot, Waring, Dudley and Hughes all work hard but none of them are delivering in front of goal. They aren't being helped by the poor balls into the box. The crossing of Taylor and Jackson in recent weeks has been very poor and the aimless drinks of Glendon and Robert's just come back at us. Not having Asante fit killed us last season and it is beginning to do the same this - the only difference this year is we tend to scramble a draw rather than a defeat. I don't know the answer but I can't help but think there is something more that can be done. Continue like this and we will be scrabbling around for a 6th/7th place finish at the end of the season and that's not good enough.
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Post by MPW on Nov 2, 2019 19:56:30 GMT
interesting response from Morley when asked about Asante after the game. He said that he hasn’t spoken to Asante to about his injury and has no intention of speaking to him about it. They’re basically waiting for Asante to tell them when his fit to play.
I can understand Asante being wary after his injury problems, but its clearly frustrating the managers when they have the likes of Grand and Livesey who would play with one leg if needed. Livesey got scratched in the eye during the first half and couldn’t see through it but wanted to play on.
It’s clear to me that we don’t have a natural goal scorer without Asante in the team and the rest of the team aren’t contributing enough goals recently, so we are clearly missing him even if the managers won’t admit it. Even if he’s only 80% then I’d have him on the bench to bring on in games like last week or today.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 2, 2019 20:09:38 GMT
Absolutely clueless from management with that line-up, especially based after the last game. And no news at all on Asante, unprofessional to the max.. Turned out they were right in the end. Decent point considering Also not sure what some people class as "no news at all on Asante". There's a link on this very thread to his fitness being discussed in detail, as recently as yesterday! Do they want round-the-clock Asante fitness news bulletins? He struggles with injuries - get over it! If he didn't he wouldn't be playing for us.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Nov 2, 2019 20:34:05 GMT
Turned out they were right in the end. Decent point considering Also not sure what some people class as "no news at all on Asante". There's a link on this very thread to his fitness being discussed in detail, as recently as yesterday! Do they want round-the-clock Asante fitness news bulletins? He struggles with injuries - get over it! If he didn't he wouldn't be playing for us. I was only answering a question from someone who asked me whether he will still be out or not!
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Post by tonya on Nov 2, 2019 20:35:34 GMT
A good point and given York failed to win it keeps us in contention for top place which has to remain our objective. A couple of wins when York hopefully have a lean spell and top place will be ours. ( We have to avoid the lottery of the play offs)
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Post by Lobster on Nov 2, 2019 20:57:02 GMT
Also not sure what some people class as "no news at all on Asante". There's a link on this very thread to his fitness being discussed in detail, as recently as yesterday! Do they want round-the-clock Asante fitness news bulletins? He struggles with injuries - get over it! If he didn't he wouldn't be playing for us. I was only answering a question from someone who asked me whether he will still be out or not! It wasn't you I was having a go at Rio. It's these fans who seem to think they're being left in the dark about Asante, when there are plenty of updates out there.
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 2, 2019 21:09:17 GMT
interesting response from Morley when asked about Asante after the game. He said that he hasn’t spoken to Asante to about his injury and has no intention of speaking to him about it. They’re basically waiting for Asante to tell them when his fit to play. I can understand Asante being wary after his injury problems, but its clearly frustrating the managers when they have the likes of Grand and Livesey who would play with one leg if needed. Livesey got scratched in the eye during the first half and couldn’t see through it but wanted to play on. It’s clear to me that we don’t have a natural goal scorer without Asante in the team and the rest of the team aren’t contributing enough goals recently, so we are clearly missing him even if the managers won’t admit it. Even if he’s only 80% then I’d have him on the bench to bring on in games like last week or today. No point doing that. He's either feeling fit and he'll be the best striker in the league, or he isn't. In which case he will jog about and be ineffective. You can usually tell in the first 10 minutes how he's feeling. We need to understand that's the way it is. Must be a complete pain for the managers. They can't plan anything for upcoming matches.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 2, 2019 21:37:04 GMT
Decent point my arris, 7 games without a win, posters saying anything less than a win against alfreton will be poor, agree, so it's over to the dynamic trio of morley, johnson and robinson to sort it out asap Where you at the game today? It was imo a decent point against a side that will be in the mix come April. In the first half we had a fairly strong stiff wind against us. It died down at half time turning to sideways rain hence we never got the wind advantage second half
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 2, 2019 21:44:02 GMT
A good point and given York failed to win it keeps us in contention for top place which has to remain our objective. A couple of wins when York hopefully have a lean spell and top place will be ours. ( We have to avoid the lottery of the play offs) Tonya I think realistically I’ve resigned myself to the fact that finishing 2 nd or 3 rd is our most likely scenario unless York press a self destruct button
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 22:07:09 GMT
Looking at the fixtures it will be hard to see where York could drop points. Might happen next Tuesday as they play at Hereford but up until late December they have an easy run of games with most lower half apart from Alfreton
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Nov 2, 2019 22:49:58 GMT
Unless something bizarre happens I can’t see York losing any more than 3/4 games over the course of the season
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Post by Wortleyblue on Nov 2, 2019 22:52:42 GMT
Looking at the fixtures it will be hard to see where York could drop points. Might happen next Tuesday as they play at Hereford but up until late December they have an easy run of games with most lower half apart from Alfreton I couldn't see them dropping points today but they did
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Post by Forever Blue on Nov 3, 2019 1:18:02 GMT
People can debate all they want and the mangers can say what they want people to hear but I am too old to go into panic mode just yet, I have seen many ups and downs being a Chester fan. What is clear our form is dropping whether or not that is down to certain players being a bad influence or we are reliant on certain players to score goals the managers need to sort that out and quick. It maybe they have to take a look in the mirror and reassess the tactics but whatever the reasons they need to change it, this league is tight and we could find ourselves out of the playoffs quite quick.
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Post by Anders on Nov 3, 2019 1:20:57 GMT
Game of two halves, they had the better of the first half and were on top in the second half. Could have gone either way really so the end result is probably the right one.
Other than the two goals not much happened in the first half. Jackson’s goal was really quite lovely, placed in to the top right corner form the edge of the box. Their goal came from Audel taking a shot with his right foot just inside the box on their attacking left which Waring blocked but he couldn’t get up quick enough to block the follow up effort. Just describing it, not Waring’s fault, he did what he could but needed help.
We were much better in the second half, Brackley probably had the more clear cut chances forcing us in to two goalmouth scrambles but we had far more possession and were the side generally in the ascendancy pushing for the winner.
Difficult to pick a standout performer, nobody really excelled but everyone did their jobs reasonably well. I suppose Griffiths did well when called upon, Kev Roberts stepped up and Waring held the ball up well if I were to pick some out.
Personally feel that Stopforth is the ideal partner for Glendon in the middle of midfield. If Glendon is going to sit deeper to get on the ball then it gives license for Stopforth to go running around like a nutter in front of him. Issue with today is that both Glendon and Roberts sit deeper. Roberts struggled a bit for me, everytime he won a header it just ended up going anywhere. Got nothing against him but who on earth was voting for him as man of the match on the twitter poll? Must have been the Blacon fan club who weren’t even there standing out in the rain with us, there were certainly more votes than Chester fans at the game anyway. Baffling.
Likeable little double act between Taylor and Waters on the left, at home in particular I think that could cause damage.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 3, 2019 8:28:46 GMT
Game of two halves, they had the better of the first half and were on top in the second half. Could have gone either way really so the end result is probably the right one. Other than the two goals not much happened in the first half. Jackson’s goal was really quite lovely, placed in to the top right corner form the edge of the box. Their goal came from Audel taking a shot with his right foot just inside the box on their attacking left which Waring blocked but he couldn’t get up quick enough to block the follow up effort. Just describing it, not Waring’s fault, he did what he could but needed help. We were much better in the second half, Brackley probably had the more clear cut chances forcing us in to two goalmouth scrambles but we had far more possession and were the side generally in the ascendancy pushing for the winner. Difficult to pick a standout performer, nobody really excelled but everyone did their jobs reasonably well. I suppose Griffiths did well when called upon, Kev Roberts stepped up and Waring held the ball up well if I were to pick some out. Personally feel that Stopforth is the ideal partner for Glendon in the middle of midfield. If Glendon is going to sit deeper to get on the ball then it gives license for Stopforth to go running around like a nutter in front of him. Issue with today is that both Glendon and Roberts sit deeper. Roberts struggled a bit for me, everytime he won a header it just ended up going anywhere. Got nothing against him but who on earth was voting for him as man of the match on the twitter poll? Must have been the Blacon fan club who weren’t even there standing out in the rain with us, there were certainly more votes than Chester fans at the game anyway. Baffling. Likeable little double act between Taylor and Waters on the left, at home in particular I think that could cause damage. Excellent report Anders.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 3, 2019 8:33:44 GMT
People can debate all they want and the mangers can say what they want people to hear but I am too old to go into panic mode just yet, I have seen many ups and downs being a Chester fan. What is clear our form is dropping whether or not that is down to certain players being a bad influence or we are reliant on certain players to score goals the managers need to sort that out and quick. It maybe they have to take a look in the mirror and reassess the tactics but whatever the reasons they need to change it, this league is tight and we could find ourselves out of the playoffs quite quick. Good post. Gateshead (next away game) are down in 14th position, but if they win their games in hand they are above us. We need to beat Alfreton next week.
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 3, 2019 8:37:12 GMT
Game of two halves, they had the better of the first half and were on top in the second half. Could have gone either way really so the end result is probably the right one. Other than the two goals not much happened in the first half. Jackson’s goal was really quite lovely, placed in to the top right corner form the edge of the box. Their goal came from Audel taking a shot with his right foot just inside the box on their attacking left which Waring blocked but he couldn’t get up quick enough to block the follow up effort. Just describing it, not Waring’s fault, he did what he could but needed help. We were much better in the second half, Brackley probably had the more clear cut chances forcing us in to two goalmouth scrambles but we had far more possession and were the side generally in the ascendancy pushing for the winner. Difficult to pick a standout performer, nobody really excelled but everyone did their jobs reasonably well. I suppose Griffiths did well when called upon, Kev Roberts stepped up and Waring held the ball up well if I were to pick some out. Personally feel that Stopforth is the ideal partner for Glendon in the middle of midfield. If Glendon is going to sit deeper to get on the ball then it gives license for Stopforth to go running around like a nutter in front of him. Issue with today is that both Glendon and Roberts sit deeper. Roberts struggled a bit for me, everytime he won a header it just ended up going anywhere. Got nothing against him but who on earth was voting for him as man of the match on the twitter poll? Must have been the Blacon fan club who weren’t even there standing out in the rain with us, there were certainly more votes than Chester fans at the game anyway. Baffling. Likeable little double act between Taylor and Waters on the left, at home in particular I think that could cause damage. Agree that the balance in midfield hasn't looked right again lately. Whether that's because Stopforth is missing, or because Glendon has come in, I'm not sure. Bit of both probably. Last season we brought in loads of midfield loanees, who were mainly passers of the ball, and results got worse. Especially away from home. When we battled in midfield and moved it wide, results were better. It maybe that having Glendon in there changes our style as a team. Even though he's the best mover of a ball, we lose something that gives us our intensity. Sometimes the better players don't add up to a more effective team. Not based that on yesterday, but an overall view from 70 mins on at Telford.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 3, 2019 9:35:08 GMT
Seems strange to me that we struggle for goals, when Asente isn't playing. With Waring as targetman and any combination of Dudley, Hughes and Elliott playing, up there with him. There should be goals, in the team. It just needs one of them to step up a little.
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Post by jb on Nov 3, 2019 9:40:53 GMT
Stopforth gets injured last season Chester’s form dips. Stopforth gets injured this season Chester’s form dips.
It’s not a co-incidence at all. Best midfielder at the club. Should be the first name of the team sheet.
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Post by rcb on Nov 3, 2019 10:52:53 GMT
Stopforth gets injured last season Chester’s form dips. Stopforth gets injured this season Chester’s form dips. It’s not a co-incidence at all. Best midfielder at the club. Should be the first name of the team sheet. Conceded silly goals last season with two slow, ageing centre backs and a goalkeeper who didn’t command his box. Same again this season. Is that also not a coincidence?
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Post by weareblues on Nov 3, 2019 11:20:14 GMT
Sooner we bin Gary Roberts off and play Glendon stopforth and burton together the better He’s past it should’ve been released last season
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 3, 2019 11:25:47 GMT
Sooner we bin Gary Roberts off and play Glendon stopforth and burton together the better He’s past it should’ve been released last season Only at Chester could a player win MOTM 3 games in a row, yet be the one blamed for a winless run! Talking of MOTM, I'm on Devachat so I'll whisper it quietly, but Russ Griffiths was picked yesterday; the loudest player on the pitch yesterday commanding his team and some massive saves...
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Post by weareblues on Nov 3, 2019 11:35:42 GMT
Sooner we bin Gary Roberts off and play Glendon stopforth and burton together the better He’s past it should’ve been released last season Only at Chester could a player win MOTM 3 games in a row, yet be the one blamed for a winless run! Talking of MOTM, I'm on Devachat so I'll whisper it quietly, but Russ Griffiths was picked yesterday; the loudest player on the pitch yesterday commanding his team and some massive saves... What are you on about
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 11:36:15 GMT
Sooner we bin Gary Roberts off and play Glendon stopforth and burton together the better He’s past it should’ve been released last season Only at Chester could a player win MOTM 3 games in a row, yet be the one blamed for a winless run! Talking of MOTM, I'm on Devachat so I'll whisper it quietly, but Russ Griffiths was picked yesterday; the loudest player on the pitch yesterday commanding his team and some massive saves... I think so far this season the only players not to have been scapegoated on here are Stopforth and Taylor. Griffiths- check K Roberts - check Livsey- check Grand - check G Roberts - check Jackson - check Glendon - check Burton - check Dudley - check Mahon - check Waring- check Elliott - check Asante - check Nearly a full house, bravo
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Post by sqzl on Nov 3, 2019 12:06:05 GMT
Only at Chester could a player win MOTM 3 games in a row, yet be the one blamed for a winless run! Talking of MOTM, I'm on Devachat so I'll whisper it quietly, but Russ Griffiths was picked yesterday; the loudest player on the pitch yesterday commanding his team and some massive saves... I think so far this season the only players not to have been scapegoated on here are Stopforth and Taylor. Griffiths- check K Roberts - check Livsey- check Grand - check G Roberts - check Jackson - check Glendon - check Burton - check Dudley - check Mahon - check Waring- check Elliott - check Asante - check Nearly a full house, bravo Yeah and at the same time there’s no morale high ground to be had by not having an opinion to give. At the end of the day a football forum is here to share opinions and while I personally don’t like to single players out, I don’t see why people feel you can’t possibly criticise poor performance, especially when you’re paying to see it. At times it’ll cost us about £100 for an away game easy. Anyway onto the match, my worry is that we’re going to struggle to win games without Akwasi. Looking at the table there’s a lot a sides that can go past us by winning their games in hand. It isn’t time to panic, but we need to start winning games quickly again and not let Christmas be our downfall again.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 3, 2019 12:10:30 GMT
Only at Chester could a player win MOTM 3 games in a row, yet be the one blamed for a winless run! Talking of MOTM, I'm on Devachat so I'll whisper it quietly, but Russ Griffiths was picked yesterday; the loudest player on the pitch yesterday commanding his team and some massive saves... I think so far this season the only players not to have been scapegoated on here are Stopforth and Taylor. Griffiths- check K Roberts - check Livsey- check Grand - check G Roberts - check Jackson - check Glendon - check Burton - check Dudley - check Mahon - check Waring- check Elliott - check Asante - check Nearly a full house, bravo Ironically, Stopforth probably should be more than anyone for his stupid behaviour off the pitch that's coincided with this iffy run of form.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 3, 2019 12:44:51 GMT
Stopforth gets injured last season Chester’s form dips. Stopforth gets injured this season Chester’s form dips. It’s not a co-incidence at all. Best midfielder at the club. Should be the first name of the team sheet. Agreed. Why was he on the bench yesterday? Is he still carrying an injury and if so he shouldn't have been on the bench
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Post by RonD on Nov 3, 2019 13:01:34 GMT
Stopforth gets injured last season Chester’s form dips. Stopforth gets injured this season Chester’s form dips. It’s not a co-incidence at all. Best midfielder at the club. Should be the first name of the team sheet. Agreed. Why was he on the bench yesterday? Is he still carrying an injury and if so he shouldn't have been on the bench Our best midfielder for me. Must be fit as was on the bench against York too. Not sure who would step down to fit him in?
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