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Post by Lobster on Nov 11, 2019 7:38:00 GMT
FT 0-4 also Alty beat York 1-0 Tom Peers got the winner. Altrincham have been drawn away every round and have got past us, Southport and now York. I don't love them but they deserve a decent draw after that.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Nov 11, 2019 9:34:05 GMT
They always seem to raise their game when needed, somewhat of a Cup team.
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Post by Matt on Nov 11, 2019 10:19:51 GMT
Alty are currently in a false position in the League. They'll be the last team i'd want to face in the play offs, even at home.
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Post by avfo on Nov 14, 2019 16:54:01 GMT
Statement from the EFL-
Macclesfield Town has been charged with misconduct under EFL Regulation 63.7 for non-payment of wages and referred to a Disciplinary Commission for failing to pay its players on the applicable payment due dates.
The EFL recognises the impact the non-payment of wages has on the health and wellbeing of those involved and has been engaged in discussions with Macclesfield Town and the Professional Footballers’ Association (PFA) to try and find an appropriate solution.
The Club was given until 4pm yesterday to provide a response to the EFL’s request for information in this respect. As a result of the information provided, the EFL has notified the Club of multiple charges related to failing to adhere to the terms of the contracts that are in operation.
The Disciplinary Commission has the power to impose a full range of sanctions as set out in Regulation 92 if the Club is found to be in breach. As a result of the Club fulfilling its obligations in respect of playing last night’s Leasing.com Trophy fixture, the EFL has released an immediate payment of £30,000 secured through participation in this season’s competition to assist in the payment of wages to players and staff.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 14, 2019 18:39:29 GMT
Statement from the EFL- Macclesfield Town has been charged with misconduct under EFL Regulation 63.7 for non-payment of wages and referred to a Disciplinary Commission for failing to pay its players on the applicable payment due dates. The EFL recognises the impact the non-payment of wages has on the health and wellbeing of those involved and has been engaged in discussions with Macclesfield Town and the Professional Footballers’ Association (PFA) to try and find an appropriate solution. The Club was given until 4pm yesterday to provide a response to the EFL’s request for information in this respect. As a result of the information provided, the EFL has notified the Club of multiple charges related to failing to adhere to the terms of the contracts that are in operation. The Disciplinary Commission has the power to impose a full range of sanctions as set out in Regulation 92 if the Club is found to be in breach. As a result of the Club fulfilling its obligations in respect of playing last night’s Leasing.com Trophy fixture, the EFL has released an immediate payment of £30,000 secured through participation in this season’s competition to assist in the payment of wages to players and staff. Let's hope it is them who actually see that money.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Nov 15, 2019 7:07:53 GMT
When will the EFL grow some and start deducting points from clubs who fail to pay its employees. Another club living way beyond its means and not helped by a lack of transparency by those running it.
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Post by Al on Nov 15, 2019 8:06:00 GMT
Statement from the EFL- Macclesfield Town has been charged with misconduct under EFL Regulation 63.7 for non-payment of wages and referred to a Disciplinary Commission for failing to pay its players on the applicable payment due dates. The EFL recognises the impact the non-payment of wages has on the health and wellbeing of those involved and has been engaged in discussions with Macclesfield Town and the Professional Footballers’ Association (PFA) to try and find an appropriate solution. The Club was given until 4pm yesterday to provide a response to the EFL’s request for information in this respect. As a result of the information provided, the EFL has notified the Club of multiple charges related to failing to adhere to the terms of the contracts that are in operation. The Disciplinary Commission has the power to impose a full range of sanctions as set out in Regulation 92 if the Club is found to be in breach. As a result of the Club fulfilling its obligations in respect of playing last night’s Leasing.com Trophy fixture, the EFL has released an immediate payment of £30,000 secured through participation in this season’s competition to assist in the payment of wages to players and staff. Let's hope it is them who actually see that money. Heh, having a laugh there arent you. Got no chance of seeing that money. EFL would have been better using that money to pay into the player and staff bank accounts directly and then making a claim to the courts to get that money back off the owner and/or points deductions applied
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Post by Lobster on Nov 15, 2019 8:49:51 GMT
Let's hope it is them who actually see that money. Heh, having a laugh there arent you. Got no chance of seeing that money. EFL would have been better using that money to pay into the player and staff bank accounts directly and then making a claim to the courts to get that money back off the owner and/or points deductions applied The wording only says they've "released a payment", it doesn't say to whom, so maybe they've done something along those lines.
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Post by waggoner on Nov 15, 2019 12:14:49 GMT
Heh, having a laugh there arent you. Got no chance of seeing that money. EFL would have been better using that money to pay into the player and staff bank accounts directly and then making a claim to the courts to get that money back off the owner and/or points deductions applied The wording only says they've "released a payment", it doesn't say to whom, so maybe they've done something along those lines. The people who were interested in buying the club have pulled out due to an impending points deduction so could be the end of them really
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Post by gezzer on Dec 4, 2019 15:48:55 GMT
Sol Campbell has backed a HMRC petition to have the club wound up at the High Court today. He is owed £182k after 9 months in charge, over £20k per month (although that figure could include bonuses for keeping them up). The players are again threatening to strike for this weekends game v Crewe for again not being paid. They are due back in court on 18th December.
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Post by billyw on Dec 4, 2019 17:21:02 GMT
Sol Campbell has backed a HMRC petition to have the club wound up at the High Court today. He is owed £182k after 9 months in charge, over £20k per month (although that figure could include bonuses for keeping them up). The players are again threatening to strike for this weekends game v Crewe for again not being paid. They are due back in court on 18th December. Sorry for the fans and players but if that’s true about the amount of money being paid out, they deserve to go bust.
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Post by Lobster on Dec 5, 2019 9:15:29 GMT
Sol Campbell has backed a HMRC petition to have the club wound up at the High Court today. He is owed £182k after 9 months in charge, over £20k per month (although that figure could include bonuses for keeping them up). The players are again threatening to strike for this weekends game v Crewe for again not being paid. They are due back in court on 18th December. Sorry for the fans and players but if that’s true about the amount of money being paid out, they deserve to go bust. Exactly. I can only have sympathy so far, to be honest. Yes it's a shame to see any club in financial difficulty and we know it's horrible when you're a helpless fan, but a lot of armchair observers come at it from the wrong angle. They start vilifying the leagues, and ask why the Premier League can't just give them the money, rather than questioning why these clubs are getting into this sort of state and who is responsible. Sol Campbell will probably be portrayed as some sort of mercenary among some quarters but he is entitled to the money he's owed, and while he can't be short of money himself, by backing the petition he's supporting others who might be struggling to pay their bills. It's probably better if Macc are put out their misery sooner rather than later.
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Post by agl on Dec 6, 2019 15:19:29 GMT
Game called off tomorrow. Looks like the beginning of the end for Macclesfield. Getting promoted back to the football league was probably the worst thing that could have happened to them with hindsight. Not viable on their crowds, although Accrington seem to be suggesting otherwise.
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Post by archwhopper on Dec 6, 2019 18:23:38 GMT
put a load on crewe to win with 3 or more goals in the game, a cert , selfish macc tw##s calling game off, will put it on chester tomorro instead
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Post by Wortleyblue on Dec 7, 2019 14:53:01 GMT
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Post by billyw on Dec 11, 2019 7:29:25 GMT
Looks as if they could be bought by local businessman Joe Sealey, the son of former keeper Les Sealey.
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Post by sealandender1 on Dec 11, 2019 16:46:58 GMT
Looks as if they could be bought by local businessman Joe Sealey, the son of former keeper Les Sealey. Same Joe Staley who was buying Bury a few months ago!
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Post by sealandender1 on Dec 11, 2019 16:47:29 GMT
Joe Sealey
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Post by happyclapper on Dec 19, 2019 20:03:27 GMT
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Post by weareblues on Dec 20, 2019 10:33:02 GMT
Takeover collapsed apparently
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Post by yossergolf on Dec 20, 2019 16:43:39 GMT
Football at lower levels has always been a struggle to survive on gates alone. With the introduction of high numbers of players from abroad and the escalating wages too many home grown players were pushed down the pyramid. They then want higher wages than historically paid at those lower levels which puts greater strains on finances. Unless owners are happy to lose lots of money year on year then football as it is is unsustainable. Why the authorities do not look seriously at regionalising leagues at lower levels as this reduces travelling costs, less overnight stays and increased numbers from the away team prepared to attend. Suggest this should start at Division 1 and continue through all levels below. This will not solve the financial problems of clubs who overspend beyond their means but would help. On the subject of Macc I do not wish them any ill as they helped us in our hour of need and we should not forget it.
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Post by jimmy on Dec 20, 2019 17:03:21 GMT
Sad to see how our former hosts are struggling, but Macc have been living above their means for years.
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Post by sealandender1 on Dec 20, 2019 19:55:46 GMT
Football at lower levels has always been a struggle to survive on gates alone. With the introduction of high numbers of players from abroad and the escalating wages too many home grown players were pushed down the pyramid. They then want higher wages than historically paid at those lower levels which puts greater strains on finances. Unless owners are happy to lose lots of money year on year then football as it is is unsustainable. Why the authorities do not look seriously at regionalising leagues at lower levels as this reduces travelling costs, less overnight stays and increased numbers from the away team prepared to attend. Suggest this should start at Division 1 and continue through all levels below. This will not solve the financial problems of clubs who overspend beyond their means but would help. On the subject of Macc I do not wish them any ill as they helped us in our hour of need and we should not forget it. Totally agree YG
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Post by avfo on Dec 20, 2019 21:01:42 GMT
pbs.twimg.com/media/EMOdmN8XsAAX2iL?format=png&name=largeFrom twitter - Ian Dennis @iandennisbbc ·Now confirmed. OFF. EFL rules don’t permit matches played behind closed doors. Macclesfield will now be charged with misconduct for again failing to fulfil its fixture obligations. EFL statement: Macclesfield Town v Plymouth Argyle Macclesfield Town’s fixture with Plymouth Argyle will not go ahead as planned on Saturday 21 December after the club was issued with a zero capacity notice by the local Safety Advisory Group (SAG). The notice was served by the SAG on Thursday and the club, with the assistance of the EFL, had spent the intervening 24 hours working on a solution in respect of the outstanding inspections and tests required at the Moss Rose Stadium that would ensure the capacity was reinstated. Despite making significant progress, the SAG is not satisfied all its requirements have been met and have maintained the capacity of the stadium at zero, resulting in the club informing the League it would not be in a position to fulfil the fixture with supporters in attendance. The club did request to play behind closed doors, however on consideration, as per the provisions in Regulation 33.1, the EFL did not agree to the request. The core principles behind EFL competitions are that all its fixtures are to be played in front of spectators and playing behind closed doors significantly increases the risks of crowds congregating in the vicinity of the stadium. As a result of the game not going ahead, the club will be charged with misconduct for failing to fulfil its fixture obligations. The club received a six-point deduction on Thursday after pleading guilty to charges of non-payment of wages and failure to fulfil its fixture obligations. A further four points were suspended as a result of the charges. Meanwhile - Macclesfield OWS An Update From Amar Alkadhi Regarding Plymouth Game I am aware of press releases which suggest that tomorrow's game against Plymouth Argyle has been postponed. I would like to state that we have never asked the EFL to play the game behind closed doors and as far as I am are concerned, the game will be played as scheduled.
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Post by Churton Blue on Dec 21, 2019 9:43:18 GMT
Football at lower levels has always been a struggle to survive on gates alone. With the introduction of high numbers of players from abroad and the escalating wages too many home grown players were pushed down the pyramid. They then want higher wages than historically paid at those lower levels which puts greater strains on finances. Unless owners are happy to lose lots of money year on year then football as it is is unsustainable. Why the authorities do not look seriously at regionalising leagues at lower levels as this reduces travelling costs, less overnight stays and increased numbers from the away team prepared to attend. Suggest this should start at Division 1 and continue through all levels below. This will not solve the financial problems of clubs who overspend beyond their means but would help. On the subject of Macc I do not wish them any ill as they helped us in our hour of need and we should not forget it. Totally agree YG English football was regionalised blow the third tier pre 1960 as many will remember. In France and Germany football is regionalised below the third tier whilst in Italy and Spain it is regionalised below the second tier. Of the five major football countries in Europe we are very much on our own by having five tiers played at a National level.
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Post by arthurmorris on Dec 21, 2019 13:17:45 GMT
English football was regionalised blow the third tier pre 1960 as many will remember. In France and Germany football is regionalised below the third tier whilst in Italy and Spain it is regionalised below the second tier. Of the five major football countries in Europe we are very much on our own by having five tiers played at a National level. Up to 1958 the Football League was regionalised below the second tier and I can recall watching Chester play in the old Third Division North. France, Germany and Spain are much bigger than England in terms of land mass so I can see why they would have regional leagues at a higher level than in England. Italy is almost twice as long as England so a trip from the North of Italy to the South would be much further than Gateshead to Exeter. I feel that I should declare a vested interest in the National League not being regionalised as I live in Norfolk.
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Post by billyw on Jan 2, 2020 18:46:50 GMT
It gets worse at Macc as the manager and assistant resign.
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Post by waggoner on Jan 2, 2020 20:24:37 GMT
English football was regionalised blow the third tier pre 1960 as many will remember. In France and Germany football is regionalised below the third tier whilst in Italy and Spain it is regionalised below the second tier. Of the five major football countries in Europe we are very much on our own by having five tiers played at a National level. I think it should be a case of league 2 north and south TBH. Leave Premier, Championship and league 1 as it is. Top team in League2/N and League 2/S go up as champions. The next 4 in each league playoff against eachother (the winners of each mini league go up making it 4 teams up as now) The national league would be replaced by 2 leagues North and South (same arrangements as above) An example of 2 leagues made up of League 2 and The national league would be as the leagues stand now; North.. Solihull, Notts c, Crewe, Walsall, Northampton, Mansfield, Port vale, Macc, Stockport, Wrexham, Chesterfield, Bradford c, Grimsby, Salford, Oldham, Scuntphorpe, Carlise, Morecombe, Halifax, Hartlepool, Chorley. South.. Colchester, Cheltenham, Plymouth, Cambridge, Orient, Stevenage, Crawley, Yeovil, Bromley, Boreham w, Woking, Barnet, Sutton, Dover, Eastleigh, Torquay, Aldershot, Daggers, Ebbsfleet Maidenhead. Some tasty matches in that lot. Less travel for teams and fans less expense and a strict wage cap would make it a viable couple of leagues
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Post by weareblues on Jan 2, 2020 20:58:28 GMT
English football was regionalised blow the third tier pre 1960 as many will remember. In France and Germany football is regionalised below the third tier whilst in Italy and Spain it is regionalised below the second tier. Of the five major football countries in Europe we are very much on our own by having five tiers played at a National level. I think it should be a case of league 2 north and south TBH. Leave Premier, Championship and league 1 as it is. Top team in League2/N and League 2/S go up as champions. The next 4 in each league playoff against eachother (the winners of each mini league go up making it 4 teams up as now) The national league would be replaced by 2 leagues North and South (same arrangements as above) An example of 2 leagues made up of League 2 and The national league would be as the leagues stand now; North.. Solihull, Notts c, Crewe, Walsall, Northampton, Mansfield, Port vale, Macc, Stockport, Wrexham, Chesterfield, Bradford c, Grimsby, Salford, Oldham, Scuntphorpe, Carlise, Morecombe, Halifax, Hartlepool, Chorley. South.. Colchester, Cheltenham, Plymouth, Cambridge, Orient, Stevenage, Crawley, Yeovil, Bromley, Boreham w, Woking, Barnet, Sutton, Dover, Eastleigh, Torquay, Aldershot, Daggers, Ebbsfleet Maidenhead. Some tasty matches in that lot. Less travel for teams and fans less expense and a strict wage cap would make it a viable couple of leagues Would never happen that
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 21:01:14 GMT
McMahon and Gritt have both resigned tonight.
Club official statement says they are taking legal advice.
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