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Post by bogsnorkel on Jan 11, 2020 17:25:10 GMT
One shot on target to their 12 or so. I don't think I have seen a team play with as much passion and commitment as Royston. They outplayed, out fought , outclassed and humiliated us with their performance. I am ashamed of our symbolic performance Symbolic performance should read
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Post by bogsnorkel on Jan 11, 2020 17:26:12 GMT
One shot on target to their 12 or so. I don't think I have seen a team play with as much passion and commitment as Royston. They outplayed, out fought , outclassed and humiliated us with their performance. I am ashamed of our symbolic performance Symbolic performance should read F ing predictive text...shambolic
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 11, 2020 17:29:26 GMT
Can't defend this. Totally embarrassing. Fans who travelled should be refunded by the players who have been outclassed by a team with the same name as a bag of crisps ffs. Didn’t the captain offer to refund an away game last season? Unsure if he actually did in the end.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Jan 11, 2020 17:59:41 GMT
Can't defend this. Totally embarrassing. Fans who travelled should be refunded by the players who have been outclassed by a team with the same name as a bag of crisps ffs. It's where we are as a football club though mate, in a regional league losing out in cup competitions to clubs you've never heard of. Different from where we were when most of us were growing up. Our form has been ok of late, let's get back to winning ways next week.
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Post by hackett on Jan 11, 2020 18:01:19 GMT
Can't defend this. Totally embarrassing. Fans who travelled should be refunded by the players who have been outclassed by a team with the same name as a bag of crisps ffs. Didn’t the captain offer to refund an away game last season? Unsure if he actually did in the end. Travel costs wasn't it? Wasn't there so won't go on too much of a rant as those who were deserve the air time but that isn't good enough, not when the starting line up is likely to be the same Saturday.
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Post by btb on Jan 11, 2020 18:02:52 GMT
Same as always. And we’ve given them two more years. Just about lost faith with us now. No defending that result and by all accounts performance. I know I’ll probably get panned by the ultra positives but I really wouldn’t have extended their contracts this early in the season and certainly not for two more years.
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Post by bluey7 on Jan 11, 2020 18:03:25 GMT
the worrying thing is if we show any more of this poor form in the league all chances of promotion will be gone
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Post by MPW on Jan 11, 2020 18:05:07 GMT
How many times have we underestimated and struggled against lower opposition over the past couple of seasons in both Cups and League? It’s happened too many times to be a coincidence. It’s a mindset issue that doesn’t seem to have been addressed.
I can accept that we will lose games, but when we have a team that thinks they can simply turn up to win against lower teams, it’s bloody frustrating. I bet if we had been playing a team from the NL Premier we’d have seen a totally different performance and result today.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 18:07:32 GMT
On way home
Simply shocking no one deserves any credit on the pitch
Men against boys today and sadly we were the crappy latter
Wish Royston all the best great setup they have and friendly people
Wake up Chester no more excuses
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 11, 2020 18:35:44 GMT
You really do never know which Chester will turn up?
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Post by tonya on Jan 11, 2020 18:51:59 GMT
Same as always. And we’ve given them two more years. Just about lost faith with us now. No defending that result and by all accounts performance. I know I’ll probably get panned by the ultra positives but I really wouldn’t have extended their contracts this early in the season and certainly not for two more years. I hadn't realised they had extensions to their contracts. Really poor decision indeed. It seems lessons haven't been learnt. It's not a reflection on them that I oppose an extension but as yet they have no proven record for us. We are gambling on them taking us up this season. Anything less is cause for concern. Alan Pardew and my old friend Chris Powell have a few months contract to save a premiership Dutch club and we give 2 more years on top of an initial year.... The contract could have remained until the end of the season with a large bonus and predetermined contract for next season.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jan 11, 2020 19:02:11 GMT
Can't defend this. Totally embarrassing. Fans who travelled should be refunded by the players who have been outclassed by a team with the same name as a bag of crisps ffs. Totally agree Si I was going to go to this but had too much to do at Daughters new flat for which I'm now glad for. I think not only should all those attending be refunded the players should be made to pay for their hotel rooms for turning in such an inept performance which has not only pissed everybody off but has cost us thousands in lost revenue
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Post by btb on Jan 11, 2020 19:06:23 GMT
Same as always. And we’ve given them two more years. Just about lost faith with us now. No defending that result and by all accounts performance. I know I’ll probably get panned by the ultra positives but I really wouldn’t have extended their contracts this early in the season and certainly not for two more years. I hadn't realised they had extensions to their contracts. Really poor decision indeed. It seems lessons haven't been learnt. It's not a reflection on them that I oppose an extension but as yet they have no proven record for us. We are gambling on them taking us up this season. Anything less is cause for concern. Alan Pardew and my old friend Chris Powell have a few months contract to save a premiership Dutch club and we give 2 more years on top of an initial year.... The contract could have remained until the end of the season with a large bonus and predetermined contract for next season. It’s unbelievable. I would have preferred to wait until about March. No problem with an extension of a year. They will need to know where they are and more importantly players that they are targeting will want that security of knowing what the situation is. We just never seem to learn at this football club. That result today is absolutely dreadful. Hearing comments like men against boys etc. It’s like ground hog day watching the manager’s after match interviews but now we can’t even say the pressure is on because two men have the security of two years each. Absolutely bonkers in my opinion.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Jan 11, 2020 19:15:18 GMT
That ‘’performance’’ was Dunston UTS and East Thurrock United blended into one as it was embarrassingly dreadful. Our pathetic attitude of expecting it to be a walk in the park cost us terribly again today, because we just never turned up at all and played some awful dirge. Royston Town more than deserved their win because they were committed, they actually wanted to win the cup tie, and they could actually string a pass together, unlike ourselves who can’t fit into any of the above. Any neutral would have us down as the step 7 team and Royston down as the step 6 side because the difference between both teams was frightening. In my opinion, this goes down as our worst display in the Bern and Jonno era because we were outfought and offered nothing even when it was 0-0. We need to change this cup mentality quickly because these ‘shock’ results are happening far too many times for it to just be a ‘one-off’. FA Trophy or not, I would have loved us to go to Wembley but once again we have cocked things up.
The first half was really poor to watch because most of the ball was played in the air, and it was a really tight, scrappy spectacle. There wasn’t a great deal in it, but I’d still say that Royston Town shaded it because they had more chances than us and had more of the ball. We, though, could barely string two passes together and were like shrinking violets. Yes, the pitch was sloping in all sorts of directions, but we simply cannot use that as an excuse as we have played on some poor surfaces in recent weeks without having any problems. In the opening stages of the game Gus Scott-Morris sent us an early warning sign as a free kick by him made Russ Griffiths palm it over. Adam Watkins emphatically fired over for the hosts as a shot from range at Garden Walk was aptly cannoned into a garden. Griffiths was called into action just under halfway through the half, as he held a dipping Brandon Adams volley. We finally had our first attempt a minute later, and it was a drastic one as Gary Roberts blazed his effort out of the ground - a bit similar to Watkins’ strike for Royston. Adams was involved again on the approach to the half hour mark as he slotted wide after running Kevin Roberts ragged. Our best chance of the game fell to Anthony Dudley who forced Harry Smart into a smart save from just five yards out. He really should have buried that, and to make things even more frustrating Matty Waters blazed the rebound over. Another opportunity came for us as James Jones was unable to recreate his goal at Guiseley by nodding wide, whilst at the other end Watkins went close again with a deflected attempt going over. Royston’s dominance continued to show, but to our credit Jones produced a superb block to head over a goal-bound Scott Bridges hit. It was a disappointing first half showing from us, and we weren’t finished there as worst was to come!
With us attacking down the slope and the wind being on our side you would think that things would go our way in the second period, but nope! As soon as the first goal went in we collapsed and were like rabbits in front of headlights. Royston Town fought really hard with their determination to deservedly win, but we were the polar opposite as we offered absolutely zilch and continued to smash the ball into the middle of nowhere. All three of Royston Town’s goals were scored thanks to comical defending, with the first one being netted by Matt Bateman to make it 1-0. Ben Martin headed across, and all Bateman had to do was finish the job with another deft header as we stood there like statues. Five minutes later, we conceded another soft goal as Josh Castiglione made it 2-0 to Royston Town with a diving header - again thanks to our inability to stay with our man. The hosts’ dominance kept on coming with Scott Bridges forcing Russ Griffiths into a low stop, whilst our first chance of the half fell to Matty Waters who was unable to finish from a free kick. We had another half chance as Danny Elliott fired wide from way out to sum up a day to forget. Royston Town weren’t finished though, as Matt Bateman bagged his second header of the game to make it 3-0. All three of Royston’s goals were scored by headers which shows just how incompetent we were at defending today, and our defence should be embarrassed by that. I have defended them a lot lately as they have been very solid and have kept a number of clean sheets, but they are allowed to have criticism aimed at them and today is one of those type of days. Our inability to react to our capitulation saw us deservedly lose.
Man of the match? You must be joking. The only player in blue who actually offered something was young Will Harrison when he came on, but other than that we were dross. Like I say Russ Griffiths was very poor today as he was beaten by three headers, and his kicking was off the boil. He has been excellent in recent weeks, but today he had to do loads better for Royston’s goals. No excuses! The distribution from our two centre halves was abysmal too as I’ve lost count on the amount of sliced clearances and hoofs upfield they made. In midfield we offered no ambition at all, as Royston were like lions and were up for the fight. We, though, gave the ball away umpteen times, made stupid fouls, and had no direction. Alas, we had no service up front at all and there wasn’t really any point in our strikers being on the field. Anthony Dudley missed a sitter at 0-0 that could have made the outcome a different story, but other than that I can’t recall any of our strikers actually doing anything.
So yet again we bow out of the FA Trophy against a side most of us wouldn’t have heard of prior to today (no disrespect to Royston Town, who are worthy of their place and I wish them the best of luck). In all fairness we did go on a ‘run’ as we actually managed to get past at least one round, but the way we got knocked out is still so annoying. Of course our main aim is to get promotion, but for those supporters who are saying ‘’ah well, let’s focus on the league’’, I disagree as we could have gone for both the league and the cup. Brackley Town did it (whilst finishing in the play-offs), Stockport County got to the semi-finals and won the league, and Lincoln City got to the semi-finals a couple of years back as well as going far in the FA Cup and winning the league. We have enough in our team to go for both, but today it was one of days where we thought it was going to be an easy 4-0 win, and we got what we deserved. Our next match is on Saturday as we play Leamington away in what will simply be a must-win match. Thankfully it won’t be as long a journey as it was today, but the most important thing is that we don’t let our heads drop too deep as we need to get a big reaction. I’m still two hours away from Chester, although it feels a whole lot longer!
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Post by archwhopper on Jan 11, 2020 19:39:33 GMT
Dont get all this crap about players, managers refunding travel and accomodation costs to those that travelled,thats the price you pay for watching chester, it happens year after year, just to be expected for the level we are at,if by chance we turn over leamington next week with best performance this season are chester fans going to pay for the team bus and players expenses,i dont think so,best to get over it and hope we have enough to challenge in the play offs to earn promotion, then we can see what bern and johnno have to offer as be new for them
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Post by devadiva on Jan 11, 2020 19:41:36 GMT
Listened to the commentary whilst driving abroad. Well I say commentary, it was less a commentary and more a 90 minute lambasting of what sounds like the worst performance of the season. I hope the team get some Ferguson style “hairdryer treatment” for that.
I was at Guiseley last week - how do we go from that to a “your not fit to wear the shirt” type performance inside a week?. The gaffers really need to think about how they approach cup matches. Their record on that as opposed to the league is woeful (and must be on a par with McCarthy).
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Post by chislenko2 on Jan 11, 2020 19:50:28 GMT
Three giraffes have now passed on.
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Post by banksy on Jan 11, 2020 20:09:59 GMT
Same as always. And we’ve given them two more years. Just about lost faith with us now. No defending that result and by all accounts performance. I know I’ll probably get panned by the ultra positives but I really wouldn’t have extended their contracts this early in the season and certainly not for two more years. I hadn't realised they had extensions to their contracts. Really poor decision indeed. It seems lessons haven't been learnt. It's not a reflection on them that I oppose an extension but as yet they have no proven record for us. We are gambling on them taking us up this season. Anything less is cause for concern. Alan Pardew and my old friend Chris Powell have a few months contract to save a premiership Dutch club and we give 2 more years on top of an initial year.... The contract could have remained until the end of the season with a large bonus and predetermined contract for next season. Believe me, we're all hurting from this result tonight. It's a bit knee-jerk to talk about getting contracts wrong though to be honest. We followed up confirmation of the contracts with two good, very good wins. We are of course looking to build this club, not pull it apart once again to have to start from scratch again. Contract talks will always begin and generally be sorted out by this point. Managers all over the country want to have that sorted out as it helps with recruitment etc as you progress through the second half of the season. To leave it til March would cause more issues than good. I think if we had been underachieving compared to last year at this point then we may have had different views, but the fact remains that we have a good chance of certainly improving on last season's finish. Whilst the managers have not achieved promotion with us yet, they do have a track record of it, and the 2 year contract gives the club much needed stability, which I think we all agree we need at Chester FC. A lot of positivity followed the news of the contract extension let's not forget. Keeping faith. Jeff
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Post by Lobster on Jan 11, 2020 20:16:56 GMT
I think the biggest problem Bern and Jonno have had since being here is when it's bad, it's SO bad! I reckon we probably get about three good results for every one bad one with them, but the bad ones stick in the mind and have included Blyth, Stockport, Dunston and today. It's no exaggeration to say these are some of the results we've ever had.
It depends on your philosophy I suppose. I'm inclined to accept taking the very rough with the generally smooth and am happy that things overall are moving in the right direction. I hated during the McCarthy/Bignot years how often we'd lose games 1-0 or 2-1 due to switching off at a corner right at the end. At least now when we lose, we do it properly! They really need to get to the bottom of why we're turning out these occasionally really shite performances though, as it will stop them achieving the ambitions they have for us.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jan 11, 2020 20:22:00 GMT
I started a thread a month or so ago asking why we always put up a poor performance away from home on a poor pitch, against a side that is below us. We just don't seem to play well, or win this type of game.
Nothing seems to have changed. Looking forward to Leamington away next week!
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Post by agl on Jan 11, 2020 20:35:53 GMT
Embarrassing today. Outfought all over the pitch by a team that wanted it more. We squandered two great chances in the first half, but the warning signs were there in the last ten minutes. Second half was as bad as anything I've seen. Don't think we even mustered a corner, playing with a strong wind behind us. Jackson tried to run at them but can't think of anyone else who emerged with any credit. It's all been said, and will be interesting to see what reaction we get at Leamington at a similar type of set up and poor pitch. But, as Bansky says, need to keep it in perspective. We've been good recently, including two very impressive away wins. The managers will be judged on league position. Get us in the play offs and we are at least making progress. They must be scratching their head as much as the rest of us after that no show today. One more thing...I know Matty Hughes is a favourite but he ain't a centre forward. Like the York game today, never got a kick but at least offered a bit more than Elliott.
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Post by sqzl on Jan 11, 2020 21:00:30 GMT
Awful stuff, but it was always going to be after a poor loss than someone says the contract extensions are madness.
I imagine York have a bigger budget than us, and KLT are just flying off the back of last season and beating sides consistently. We’re in a decent league position, have a chance of Top3 and an outside shot at the title if we string 5-6 wins in a row. It’s not all bad, today just hurts because we all want to get to Wembley.
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Post by btb on Jan 11, 2020 21:35:38 GMT
I hadn't realised they had extensions to their contracts. Really poor decision indeed. It seems lessons haven't been learnt. It's not a reflection on them that I oppose an extension but as yet they have no proven record for us. We are gambling on them taking us up this season. Anything less is cause for concern. Alan Pardew and my old friend Chris Powell have a few months contract to save a premiership Dutch club and we give 2 more years on top of an initial year.... The contract could have remained until the end of the season with a large bonus and predetermined contract for next season. Believe me, we're all hurting from this result tonight. It's a bit knee-jerk to talk about getting contracts wrong though to be honest. We followed up confirmation of the contracts with two good, very good wins. We are of course looking to build this club, not pull it apart once again to have to start from scratch again. Contract talks will always begin and generally be sorted out by this point. Managers all over the country want to have that sorted out as it helps with recruitment etc as you progress through the second half of the season. To leave it til March would cause more issues than good. I think if we had been underachieving compared to last year at this point then we may have had different views, but the fact remains that we have a good chance of certainly improving on last season's finish. Whilst the managers have not achieved promotion with us yet, they do have a track record of it, and the 2 year contract gives the club much needed stability, which I think we all agree we need at Chester FC. A lot of positivity followed the news of the contract extension let's not forget. Keeping faith. Jeff Sorry Jeff but I don’t agree with the decision to give them two years. Personally, and given our financial status along with what level we are playing at I don’t think it is warranted. . I guess there will be plenty that do agree with it and I think at the time a lot of people reacted positively as they did when JM was given two years. I’ve said many times, I like the two managers. They are both very likeable, hard working chaps but I just think these type results keep happening and can’t be called one offs and the after match interviews all seem to roll in to one. Hopefully we see a reaction. Starting with a difficult game on Saturday. No pressure for the gaffers though now because they are in a comfortable position.
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Post by btb on Jan 11, 2020 21:42:39 GMT
Awful stuff, but it was always going to be after a poor loss than someone says the contract extensions are madness. I imagine York have a bigger budget than us, and KLT are just flying off the back of last season and beating sides consistently. We’re in a decent league position, have a chance of Top3 and an outside shot at the title if we string 5-6 wins in a row. It’s not all bad, today just hurts because we all want to get to Wembley. I’ve said two years is madness, not the extension itself although I think it could have been left a few more weeks whilst we saw how the season end was shaping up. It’s not so long ago that I watched my little boy empty his piggy bank and donate it all to the club, whilst also handing over a considerable amount myself to once again save the club. If others are happy with the two years then that is their choice. Personally I’m not and results and performances, admittedly I wasn’t there, like today compound the decision for me.
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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Jan 11, 2020 21:52:46 GMT
I hadn't realised they had extensions to their contracts. Really poor decision indeed. It seems lessons haven't been learnt. It's not a reflection on them that I oppose an extension but as yet they have no proven record for us. We are gambling on them taking us up this season. Anything less is cause for concern. Alan Pardew and my old friend Chris Powell have a few months contract to save a premiership Dutch club and we give 2 more years on top of an initial year.... The contract could have remained until the end of the season with a large bonus and predetermined contract for next season. Believe me, we're all hurting from this result tonight. It's a bit knee-jerk to talk about getting contracts wrong though to be honest. We followed up confirmation of the contracts with two good, very good wins. We are of course looking to build this club, not pull it apart once again to have to start from scratch again. Contract talks will always begin and generally be sorted out by this point. Managers all over the country want to have that sorted out as it helps with recruitment etc as you progress through the second half of the season. To leave it til March would cause more issues than good. I think if we had been underachieving compared to last year at this point then we may have had different views, but the fact remains that we have a good chance of certainly improving on last season's finish. Whilst the managers have not achieved promotion with us yet, they do have a track record of it, and the 2 year contract gives the club much needed stability, which I think we all agree we need at Chester FC. A lot of positivity followed the news of the contract extension let's not forget. Keeping faith. Jeff Keep the faith my arse banksy. Today was shite yet again. U need to watch more games than just pick a few home games.
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Post by chislenko2 on Jan 11, 2020 21:58:16 GMT
They should pay for us all to have two weeks in Torremolinos drinking Watneys Red Barrel.
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Post by Hannibal on Jan 11, 2020 21:59:19 GMT
I started a thread a month or so ago asking why we always put up a poor performance away from home on a poor pitch, against a side that is below us. We just don't seem to play well, or win this type of game. Nothing seems to have changed. Looking forward to Leamington away next week! We never turned up at Leamington last season on what was like a farmer's field.
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Post by peterkaysock on Jan 11, 2020 22:03:59 GMT
Here we go again, sack the managers brigade are out again. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by btb on Jan 11, 2020 22:06:40 GMT
Here we go again, sack the managers brigade are out again. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 It’s not though is it.
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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Jan 11, 2020 22:08:12 GMT
Here we go again, sack the managers brigade are out again. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Clearly u went today
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