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Post by Wortleyblue on Jan 11, 2020 22:28:08 GMT
Dont get all this crap about players, managers refunding travel and accomodation costs to those that travelled,thats the price you pay for watching chester, it happens year after year, just to be expected for the level we are at,if by chance we turn over leamington next week with best performance this season are chester fans going to pay for the team bus and players expenses,i dont think so,best to get over it and hope we have enough to challenge in the play offs to earn promotion, then we can see what bern and johnno have to offer as be new for them AW comments about refunding hotel costs and travelling supporters are tongue in cheek and just a reflection of how we feel after an appalling defeat. I have been a Chester supporter for nigh on 60 years so I certainly know all about being a Chester supporter and of course we will get over it but bloody hell we need to vent our spleens now and again. This time next week after a good win at Leamington all will be forgotten
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Post by peterkaysock on Jan 11, 2020 22:32:51 GMT
Here we go again, sack the managers brigade are out again. đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł Clearly u went today Look at their win ratios. Are you a McCarthy fan, Bignot or Burr. Just getting bored of the yoyo attitudes. Cast your mind back 18 months ago and look at the state of the club. Things arent perfect, But jesus christ give it a rest.
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Post by tonya on Jan 11, 2020 23:07:54 GMT
Believe me, we're all hurting from this result tonight. It's a bit knee-jerk to talk about getting contracts wrong though to be honest. We followed up confirmation of the contracts with two good, very good wins. We are of course looking to build this club, not pull it apart once again to have to start from scratch again. Contract talks will always begin and generally be sorted out by this point. Managers all over the country want to have that sorted out as it helps with recruitment etc as you progress through the second half of the season. To leave it til March would cause more issues than good. I think if we had been underachieving compared to last year at this point then we may have had different views, but the fact remains that we have a good chance of certainly improving on last season's finish. Whilst the managers have not achieved promotion with us yet, they do have a track record of it, and the 2 year contract gives the club much needed stability, which I think we all agree we need at Chester FC. A lot of positivity followed the news of the contract extension let's not forget. Keeping faith. Jeff Sorry Jeff but I donât agree with the decision to give them two years. Personally, and given our financial status along with what level we are playing at I donât think it is warranted. . I guess there will be plenty that do agree with it and I think at the time a lot of people reacted positively as they did when JM was given two years. Iâve said many times, I like the two managers. They are both very likeable, hard working chaps but I just think these type results keep happening and canât be called one offs and the after match interviews all seem to roll in to one. Hopefully we see a reaction. Starting with a difficult game on Saturday. No pressure for the gaffers though now because they are in a comfortable position. It's not a knee jerk reaction whatsoever but basic financial strategy and management of the club. Being likeable is really not the issue. Many people are likeable but it doesn't make them good football managers. If things don't go to plan this season and we stay down and things look bleak next season, then what? Contracts remain in place. It's an incredibly naĂŻve decision, more so given previous errors. There was no need for it. They probably didn't even expect it.
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Post by Lobster on Jan 11, 2020 23:39:34 GMT
There was a 3-4 page thread about Bern and Jonno getting a contract extension, which the overwhelming majority were happy with. We've also had an excellent away win since then.
I find it difficult to take anyone seriously who waits for us to have a poor defeat, then announces that they think we've made a mistake with the contract. Say it at the time, then!
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Post by Imperial on Jan 11, 2020 23:45:42 GMT
We were poor today in every department. I think the game plan was wrong though admittedly limited options with some of the players we had out but I thought a good opportunity for Elliott to start as heâs a bit more of a physical presence than Hughes or Duds & Royston were a big, physical side. Their two centre halves were massive, 6 was about 6â6 & the other was only an inch or so shorter but built like 10 men.
Royston played very, very well. They were first to absolutely everything but much of the time there wasnât even a blue challenging them for a header. Their 4 ran round like the energiser bunny snapping at heels. They never gave us a minute on the ball & every hoof from either side seemed to go to a white shirt.
Really disappointing result & performance, it felt like after the first went in we just totally capitulated. I left after the 3rd.
Hope talk of being reimbursed is just people letting off steam though, the club is on a budget after all. A much better gesture would be to make sure they repay the crap we watched today after a four hour drive with a seriously improved result next week.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Jan 12, 2020 0:07:12 GMT
Really disappointing today sounds like we were n absolute shambles and have done this several times now. They are clearly no mugs beating Wealdstone and Boreham wood but to Not show up is inexcusable. Itâs sad that we are in a position weâre we are being done by clubs with 250 gates. We really must respond correctly at leamington next week as we have some big key league games coming up. We need to start with a win at leamington at a sit ground with a poor surface I fear the worst next week. If two or three of our most influential players remain sidelined we must look at bringing people in as some of our second string will get us nowhere fast . Finally Iâve not seen or heard of any apologies from Players or management for today?
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Post by btb on Jan 12, 2020 0:08:17 GMT
There was a 3-4 page thread about Bern and Jonno getting a contract extension, which the overwhelming majority were happy with. We've also had an excellent away win since then. I find it difficult to take anyone seriously who waits for us to have a poor defeat, then announces that they think we've made a mistake with the contract. Say it at the time, then! Sorry I donât live and breath deva chat on a daily basis lobster. First Iâd heard about two years was today on Facebook. Iâve made my point and given my reasons. I think theyâre valid concerns. But itâs done now and we crack on with it.
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Post by archwhopper on Jan 12, 2020 0:18:40 GMT
Dont get all this crap about players, managers refunding travel and accomodation costs to those that travelled,thats the price you pay for watching chester, it happens year after year, just to be expected for the level we are at,if by chance we turn over leamington next week with best performance this season are chester fans going to pay for the team bus and players expenses,i dont think so,best to get over it and hope we have enough to challenge in the play offs to earn promotion, then we can see what bern and johnno have to offer as be new for them AW comments about refunding hotel costs and travelling supporters are tongue in cheek and just a reflection of how we feel after an appalling defeat. I have been a Chester supporter for nigh on 60 years so I certainly know all about being a Chester supporter and of course we will get over it but bloody hell we need to vent our spleens now and again. This time next week after a good win at Leamington all will be forgotten i know that wort's, stop biting, enjoy the ride
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Post by saltneykebabden on Jan 12, 2020 0:35:54 GMT
Wasnât there today so canât comment on performance. Result a bit of a shambles but itâs a cup game, move on and concentrate on the Cheshire cup
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Post by Anders on Jan 12, 2020 1:20:31 GMT
That really was dreadful today and certainly outfought. Staggering how meek we were, threw our bodies on the line last week but watched this really closely out of interest in that respect and there was no chance of us risking a toe nail. Royston were big and physical on a crap pitch with a slope and we never looked like matching up to them. Too hurried in possession and couldnât even pass to a teammate five yards away unmarked. We were really careless in possession which is the polar opposite to last week which was what impressed me the most a week ago.
Thought we started well enough and had a few decent moves in the first 15 minutes or so but offered virtually nothing after that. Their first goal confused me, was from a corner but the lino put his flag up but then down again. Must have forgot the offside rule.
Not putting too much weight on this in regards as to what this team is capable of, because I donât think they put it all in, nowhere near. Donât get me wrong though, that angers me.
Jackson tried but just got no joy, Hughes and Dudley struggled against two 6ft4 muscle men centre backs. Also, for me, with Asante and Waring out, then Danny Elliott has to show much more than he is doing. I know he doesnât get much time, but from what Iâm seeing heâs fit and athletic, but Iâm struggling to see anything beyond that with him at the moment.
Royston more than deserved it, they worked extremely hard and made things happen through that alone. I donât mean to be stuffy, but they had no quality about them, but were workaholics. In fairness I thought their number 4 looked quite decent, calm and composed on the ball. They were a bit underhand with the ref though which takes a bit of a shine off their likeability factor IMO, constantly up in arms, surrounding him and applauding decisions that went their way, poor really. You could tell the ref was local, laughing and joking with their players throughout and god knows what he decided to book Stopforth for so early which took the edge off his game.
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Post by hackett on Jan 12, 2020 1:59:04 GMT
Believe me, we're all hurting from this result tonight. It's a bit knee-jerk to talk about getting contracts wrong though to be honest. We followed up confirmation of the contracts with two good, very good wins. We are of course looking to build this club, not pull it apart once again to have to start from scratch again. Contract talks will always begin and generally be sorted out by this point. Managers all over the country want to have that sorted out as it helps with recruitment etc as you progress through the second half of the season. To leave it til March would cause more issues than good. I think if we had been underachieving compared to last year at this point then we may have had different views, but the fact remains that we have a good chance of certainly improving on last season's finish. Whilst the managers have not achieved promotion with us yet, they do have a track record of it, and the 2 year contract gives the club much needed stability, which I think we all agree we need at Chester FC. A lot of positivity followed the news of the contract extension let's not forget. Keeping faith. Jeff Keep the faith my arse banksy. Today was shite yet again. U need to watch more games than just pick a few home games. Time and time again you prove yourself to be a non entity to the forum, tonight you have excelled, fair play. Zzzz.
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Post by hughie on Jan 12, 2020 6:41:06 GMT
Leamington drew 1.1 with Kingstonian in the trophy so they play on Tuesday night at Leamington. Then play us on the Saturday.
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Post by tarvinblue on Jan 12, 2020 7:43:21 GMT
Too many times we have had results that are shockingly embarrassing under these managers. Why has it happened so many times? We are either extremely good or extremely bad and rarely anywhere inbetween.
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Post by 1967blue Chester Lads on Jan 12, 2020 9:14:55 GMT
Keep the faith my arse banksy. Today was shite yet again. U need to watch more games than just pick a few home games. Time and time again you prove yourself to be a non entity to the forum, tonight you have excelled, fair play. Zzzz. Another boring programme swapper then.
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Post by devaboyreturns on Jan 12, 2020 9:17:36 GMT
Too many times we have had results that are shockingly embarrassing under these managers. Why has it happened so many times? We are either extremely good or extremely bad and rarely anywhere inbetween. Exactly. You just don't know what Chester will turn up from one week to the next and until we can show some consistency I very much doubt we will get out of this league this season.
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Post by bogsnorkel on Jan 12, 2020 9:23:19 GMT
That really was dreadful today and certainly outfought. Staggering how meek we were, threw our bodies on the line last week but watched this really closely out of interest in that respect and there was no chance of us risking a toe nail. Royston were big and physical on a crap pitch with a slope and we never looked like matching up to them. Too hurried in possession and couldnât even pass to a teammate five yards away unmarked. We were really careless in possession which is the polar opposite to last week which was what impressed me the most a week ago. Thought we started well enough and had a few decent moves in the first 15 minutes or so but offered virtually nothing after that. Their first goal confused me, was from a corner but the lino put his flag up but then down again. Must have forgot the offside rule. Not putting too much weight on this in regards as to what this team is capable of, because I donât think they put it all in, nowhere near. Donât get me wrong though, that angers me. Jackson tried but just got no joy, Hughes and Dudley struggled against two 6ft4 muscle men centre backs. Also, for me, with Asante and Waring out, then Danny Elliott has to show much more than he is doing. I know he doesnât get much time, but from what Iâm seeing heâs fit and athletic, but Iâm struggling to see anything beyond that with him at the moment. Royston more than deserved it, they worked extremely hard and made things happen through that alone. I donât mean to be stuffy, but they had no quality about them, but were workaholics. In fairness I thought their number 4 looked quite decent, calm and composed on the ball. They were a bit underhand with the ref though which takes a bit of a shine off their likeability factor IMO, constantly up in arms, surrounding him and applauding decisions that went their way, poor really. You could tell the ref was local, laughing and joking with their players throughout and god knows what he decided to book Stopforth for so early which took the edge off his game. Always enjoy your match reports Anderson but thought Royston outplayed us as well as out fought. Most of their passes found a man and I would be interested to know the shots stats...horribly in their favour. The passion they had was almost intimidating- they were so pumped up - but not in a headless chicken kind of way. They were calm on the ball. Admittedly, only my third match this season - two average performances against Boston and York (where admittedly it wad an even match) and yesterday's debacle. Maybe, I have missed the games where the team was composed, passionate and playing fluent football
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Post by agl on Jan 12, 2020 9:34:33 GMT
Too many times we have had results that are shockingly embarrassing under these managers. Why has it happened so many times? We are either extremely good or extremely bad and rarely anywhere inbetween. I don't think that's the case. We've had plenty of average performances too...Kettering, Boston, Leamington, Alty to name but a few. Bottom line is that players in our league, the league above and the league below are all much of a muchness. If they are not on their game, the other team raises its level a notch or they don't appear to fancy it then you get results like yesterday. It looked to me like we thought we could stroll through the game and either wait for a chance to come, or take a replay. Same as Hednesford and Brackley in previous rounds. Had Dudley put that early sitter away, it might have been a different outcome. Like it or not we rely massively on Asante, and we also missed Warings height. What we don't do well, consistently, is earn the right to play against so called lesser teams. Too many times we seem to have a superiority complex. Battles were lost all over the pitch yesterday and it happens too often. I heard Solskjaer yesterday saying he wants his teams to work....if it's good enough for United then it has to apply to us. On the contracts, damned if you do, damned if you don't...they obviously wanted a new deal and are committed to the club, so what message does it send if you say wait til the end of the season? They might just decide to up sticks and go off to somewhere in the Manchester suburbs where I'm sure they would be much in demand. Disappointing as yesterday was, we don't really have any choice but to buy into project Bern and Jonno. They are at this level for a reason and, on the whole, we seem to be progressing. They aren't stupid and will have made a few mental notes about certain players yesterday. No guarantees anyone else could do better, anyway. However, they must not be under any illusions that seventh place is an absolute minimum this season. No excuses. I also think it's fair enough for fans to vent their anger on here, in a reasonable way, without being shouted down. Watching a display like that and being taunted by ten year old Royston fans isn't my idea of fun! Bring on Leamington.
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Post by rcb on Jan 12, 2020 9:54:45 GMT
There was a 3-4 page thread about Bern and Jonno getting a contract extension, which the overwhelming majority were happy with. We've also had an excellent away win since then. I find it difficult to take anyone seriously who waits for us to have a poor defeat, then announces that they think we've made a mistake with the contract. Say it at the time, then! Does that mean you take seriously those who did express concerns at, and even before, the time? All I read at the time was crude contempt and criticism, albeit not from you. What is it about two and a half year contacts in January? Three years ago almost killed the club, and took the club down a league, and now, three years later.....! All the promises at the time about never repeating such mistakes again. A quote attributed to Einstein springs to mind.
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Post by billyw on Jan 12, 2020 9:54:47 GMT
Here we go again, sack the managers brigade are out again. đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł No-one has said sack the managers. The argument is that it was too early to extend contracts for managers who have won nowt for the club. Remember we did the same with McCarthy. I hope the managers will bring success over the next two years but do good managers suffer 4 humiliating defeats in 18 months - I think not.
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Post by hughie on Jan 12, 2020 10:30:02 GMT
Beaten by the better side,it happens.We weâre never going to win with no Asante or Waring against two 6ft 4 inch muscle men . All we can hope for is that Asante is fit for Leamington.
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Post by Frank Owenâs Paintbrush on Jan 12, 2020 10:31:21 GMT
The only way we lose a game like that is down to effort and desire.
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Post by Matt on Jan 12, 2020 11:26:03 GMT
It was perfect timing for the new contracts, donât forget after it we beat Guiseley who beat York the week before. We need stability and these 2 managers are the perfect fit. If fans think a new manager is whatâs needed then weâll be where we are now in 18 months time. Itâs a process.
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Post by rcb on Jan 12, 2020 11:55:21 GMT
It was perfect timing for the new contracts, donât forget after it we beat Guiseley who beat York the week before. We need stability and these 2 managers are the perfect fit. If fans think a new manager is whatâs needed then weâll be where we are now in 18 months time. Itâs a process. Iâm not reading this desire at all. Who has mentioned a new manager? I am simply reading concerns in regard to a contract extension, particularly such a lengthy one, given the catastrophe that happened with similar only three years ago.
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Post by agl on Jan 12, 2020 12:25:09 GMT
Beaten by the better side,it happens.We weâre never going to win with no Asante or Waring against two 6ft 4 inch muscle men . All we can hope for is that Asante is fit for Leamington. Sorry, didn't realise Royston had signed Virgil van Dyk. We should still find a way not to be hammered by a team from the league below. A corner in the second half might have been a start and put a bit of pressure on a keeper who looked like he'd been dragged out of Sunday league football. We gave him the easiest game of his life.
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Post by weareblues on Jan 12, 2020 12:45:36 GMT
Comment on Seals Live - "I wouldn't want to be in the away dressing room at the end" Too true, but isn't that a bit late? Donât worry Bern and Jonno know what theyâre doingđ Oh here we go back to slagging managers off because we lost a gams
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Post by weareblues on Jan 12, 2020 12:47:53 GMT
Same as always. And weâve given them two more years. Just about lost faith with us now. No defending that result and by all accounts performance. I know Iâll probably get panned by the ultra positives but I really wouldnât have extended their contracts this early in the season and certainly not for two more years. I hadn't realised they had extensions to their contracts. Really poor decision indeed. It seems lessons haven't been learnt. It's not a reflection on them that I oppose an extension but as yet they have no proven record for us. We are gambling on them taking us up this season. Anything less is cause for concern. Alan Pardew and my old friend Chris Powell have a few months contract to save a premiership Dutch club and we give 2 more years on top of an initial year.... The contract could have remained until the end of the season with a large bonus and predetermined contract for next season. State of this
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Post by bluey7 on Jan 12, 2020 13:01:41 GMT
two more years
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Post by peterkaysock on Jan 12, 2020 13:08:54 GMT
News break :-Deva Chat, turns in to meltdown yet again with another defeat on our hands.
Yes not good this happened but omg, it's like some are not happy unless they can constantly put the boot in.
I come on here for the entertainment đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł. Which isn't very often these days.
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Post by rcb on Jan 12, 2020 13:16:06 GMT
Meltdown my a*se! Crap display, probably the worst of the season, and some people are disappointed. Thatâs all!
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jan 12, 2020 13:54:30 GMT
The Jeckyl and Hyde characters are out in force tonight. We lost, it happens. What is worrying is how many goals from crosses into the box we concede. Is it the keeper? Or a lack of concentration in the back four? Do we scout the opposition and work on this stuff in training? If we are serious about promotion we need to stop conceding as many as we do because without Asante we ain't going to score too many.
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