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Post by moldcestrian on Feb 11, 2024 11:28:17 GMT
Unreal that yesterday.
Felt a bit deflated after a non contest first half as I was sort of forgetting we were 1-0 up after the pen.
Second half we blitzed them. Perfect set up nicking a goal vs the better teams and then drawing them out.
A front 3 of Tollit Peers and Caton wins us the playoffs. It even had me checking last night whether we could catch Tamworth šš
Kev Roberts MOM for me, Glendon next. Both could play in the championship.
Bumped into a few Scarborough fans in town after, they were sound to be fair so didnāt need to drag them on the no4 bus home and fill them in at the top of Moel Famau.
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Post by moldcestrian on Feb 11, 2024 11:30:02 GMT
I completely agree with everything else above everyone has said, thoroughly deserved today. The big difference with Tollitt was that he was happy to shoot on sight. I think in the past we have been a bit guilty of trying to walk the ball in, hopefully this rubs off on others Fully agree with that despite not being there. Heās a big coup. Listen Rio, donāt be commenting on the game when you were too busy shagging about Madrid. Typical part time fan just sticking his beak in. Youāll be in the main stand next behind Cal.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 11, 2024 12:08:49 GMT
Fully agree with that despite not being there. Heās a big coup. Listen Rio, donāt be commenting on the game when you were too busy shagging about Madrid. Typical part time fan just sticking his beak in. Youāll be in the main stand next behind Cal. Iām never going again if thatās the way we play when I go away š¤Ŗ.
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Post by welshrover on Feb 11, 2024 12:17:47 GMT
Listen Rio, donāt be commenting on the game when you were too busy shagging about Madrid. Typical part time fan just sticking his beak in. Youāll be in the main stand next behind Cal. Iām never going again if thatās the way we play when I go away š¤Ŗ. This Madrid trip could be the first of many upcoming events that underlines the statement "life gets in the way of football"
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 11, 2024 13:09:02 GMT
Iām never going again if thatās the way we play when I go away š¤Ŗ. This Madrid trip could be the first of many upcoming events that underlines the statement "life gets in the way of football" If it means we go up then Iām in!
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Post by avfo on Feb 11, 2024 13:17:37 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Feb 11, 2024 13:40:34 GMT
Second goal is awful from Scarborough's point of view but a good finish from Glendon, more difficult than it looks. Burke was definitely not offside for the one that was disallowed. Peers may have been.
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Post by Royal Blue on Feb 11, 2024 15:28:47 GMT
Definitely handball for the penalty, hit his arm as he was bringing it down.
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Post by devadiva on Feb 11, 2024 16:17:27 GMT
Glendon goal must be the first time Iāve seen him use his left foot!
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Post by hughie on Feb 11, 2024 16:21:05 GMT
Kevin Roberts out injured for a couple of games came back and played an integral part in the defence.Also it was his shot that was handled by their defender to give us the penalty.
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Post by southernblue on Feb 11, 2024 18:06:15 GMT
Brackley have been there or thereabouts for a long time. I hope to god we donāt end up with a similar record in the playoffs. Yes, Fylde too but at least they have yo-yoed. It just shows that getting in the playoffs in a previous year gives no divine right to go one better in future. Worth remembering that if we get in again. Whilst it is nice to have points in the bag, we shouldn't get carried away. There are four teams below us who would go above us if they win their games in hand. In that worst case scenario, that still puts us 7th, which is where we want to be as a minimum to make the playoffs. No matter how good our form is going into the playoffs, anything can happen in those matches, so it's a bit of a lottery.
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Post by moldcestrian on Feb 11, 2024 18:17:03 GMT
Yes, Fylde too but at least they have yo-yoed.Ā It just shows that getting in the playoffs in a previous year gives no divine right to go one better in future.Ā Worth remembering that if we get in again. Whilst it is nice to have points in the bag, we shouldn't get carried away. There are four teams below us who would go above us if they win their games in hand. In that worst case scenario, that still puts us 7th, which is where we want to be as a minimum to make the playoffs. No matter how good our form is going into the playoffs, anything can happen in those matches, so it's a bit of a lottery. Stay down south with that sort of negativity. Just played 3rd in the league off the park, let us enjoy it.
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Post by southernblue on Feb 11, 2024 18:19:59 GMT
Whilst it is nice to have points in the bag, we shouldn't get carried away. There are four teams below us who would go above us if they win their games in hand. In that worst case scenario, that still puts us 7th, which is where we want to be as a minimum to make the playoffs. No matter how good our form is going into the playoffs, anything can happen in those matches, so it's a bit of a lottery. Stay down south with that sort of negativity. Just played 3rd in the league off the park, let us enjoy it. Bit regionalist that comment. Not negative at all, was a cracking result yesterday, and I am hopeful of another third place finish and doing better in the playoffs this year than last. A reality check doesn't hurt. Chester fans always over-react. One good result and we're going to win the league, but lose a match and it's "Cal out".
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Post by southernblue on Feb 11, 2024 18:33:33 GMT
What was the attendance yesterday?
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Post by southernblue on Feb 11, 2024 18:48:12 GMT
Whilst it is nice to have points in the bag, we shouldn't get carried away. There are four teams below us who would go above us if they win their games in hand. In that worst case scenario, that still puts us 7th, which is where we want to be as a minimum to make the playoffs. No matter how good our form is going into the playoffs, anything can happen in those matches, so it's a bit of a lottery. Stay down south with that sort of negativity. Just played 3rd in the league off the park, let us enjoy it. And for the record, I was the only one who predicted we'd put three past Scarborough, so I'd hardly say I'm negative.
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Post by Moltisanti on Feb 11, 2024 19:04:32 GMT
Stay down south with that sort of negativity. Just played 3rd in the league off the park, let us enjoy it. And for the record, I was the only one who predicted we'd put three past Scarborough, so I'd hardly say I'm negative. I did too. Just predicted theyād put 3 past us too. š
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Post by Lobster on Feb 11, 2024 19:25:22 GMT
Good analysis but bear in mind that the league only had 22 teams up until last season. It's a good point and well made. It was late! I've looked at this a different way, which is interesting but given the compressed nature of the table this year I'm not sure is entirely comparable. The ppg for the team finishing 3rd in the division was as follows: 2022/23 - 1.82 2021/22 - 1.90 2020/21 - 1.64* 2019/20 - 1.81* 2018/19 - 1.83 2017/18 - 1.90 2016/17 - 1.90 2015/16 - 1.78 2014/15 - 1.71 2013/14 - 1.92 2012/13 - 2.02 The average ppg for 3rd place is 1.83. We are currently 3rd with a ppg of 1.63. Chorley in 8th have 3 games in hand and are at 1.66 ppg. So let's assume someone hits a run of form to secure 3rd and gets to around 1.7 ppg for the season this would be 78 points. I still think 80 points should secure 3rd this year. We actually finished 15 points ahead of Brackley in 4th last season, so you could say 70 points would have been enough for 3rd, although it's not quite that simple as those points would've gone elsewhere.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 11, 2024 19:29:19 GMT
Good analysis but bear in mind that the league only had 22 teams up until last season. I haven't looked, but how often has the team finishing 3rd gone up? That break isn't necessarily a good thing. Since they expanded the playoffs to 2nd to 7th place: 22/23 Kidderminster 6th 21/22 York 5th 20/21 null and void 19/20 Altrincham 5th 18/19 Chorley 2nd 17/18 Harrogate 2nd 16/17 Halifax 3rd 15/16 North Ferriby 2nd So the recent ones have been won by the 5th and 6th place teams, but the older ones by the 2nd and 3rd. Wouldn't read much into it. I'd rather we finished in the top three and gave ourselves two games to win instead of three.
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Post by phillippedulait on Feb 11, 2024 21:01:06 GMT
It's a good point and well made. It was late! I've looked at this a different way, which is interesting but given the compressed nature of the table this year I'm not sure is entirely comparable. The ppg for the team finishing 3rd in the division was as follows: 2022/23 - 1.82 2021/22 - 1.90 2020/21 - 1.64* 2019/20 - 1.81* 2018/19 - 1.83 2017/18 - 1.90 2016/17 - 1.90 2015/16 - 1.78 2014/15 - 1.71 2013/14 - 1.92 2012/13 - 2.02 The average ppg for 3rd place is 1.83. We are currently 3rd with a ppg of 1.63. Chorley in 8th have 3 games in hand and are at 1.66 ppg. So let's assume someone hits a run of form to secure 3rd and gets to around 1.7 ppg for the season this would be 78 points. I still think 80 points should secure 3rd this year. We actually finished 15 points ahead of Brackley in 4th last season, so you could say 70 points would have been enough for 3rd, although it's not quite that simple as those points would've gone elsewhere. Yes and Kidderminster went up via the playoffs with the same 69 points. Missing a game by finishing 3rd or not is irrelevant really, it's a short knockout competition and we've just go to be in it.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 11, 2024 22:23:02 GMT
What was the attendance yesterday? 2,185.
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Post by agl on Feb 11, 2024 22:30:15 GMT
We actually finished 15 points ahead of Brackley in 4th last season, so you could say 70 points would have been enough for 3rd, although it's not quite that simple as those points would've gone elsewhere. Yes and Kidderminster went up via the playoffs with the same 69 points.Ā Missing a game by finishing 3rd or not is irrelevant really, it's a short knockout competition and we've just go to be in it. I disagree. Finish third and we go straight into the semi final, with at least one guaranteed home game. I know we flunked it last season but it's a massive advantage. Having said that if you offered me seventh now I'd take it.
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Post by theshed1 on Feb 12, 2024 9:04:42 GMT
Thought the ref was good today as well. Mainly because he didnāt take any sh1t and showed it early on with his decisions and cards. That set the scene nicely for the rest of the match. My only criticism was he was a bit inconsistent with the holding and pushing but that seems to be a qualifying requirement for a ref at the moment. Good solid performance that was. And as we could easily be repeating that match in the playoffs it was v encouraging. If we could just sort out the fact that we beat the top teams but canāt do the same with lower teams weād be up there with Scunthorpe. Our stats against the top 8 and bottom 8 would be interesting this season. Top Tamworth 2-0 Scunthorpe 2-0 Curzon Ashton 1-0 Scarborough 0-1 & 3-0 Brackley 1-0 Sth Shields 1-0 Chorley 0-0 & 2-0 Alfreton 1-1 P10 W7 D2 L1 F13 A2 Pts24 Bottom Banbury 0-1 & 1-1 Spennymoor 1-1 Southport 2-0 Rushall 1-1 & 0-1 Kings Lynn 3-0 & 0-0 Gloucester 3-0 Darlington 2-3 Bishops Stortford 0-2 & 2-0 P12 W4 D4 L4 F15 A10 Pts16
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Post by devadiva on Feb 12, 2024 10:53:58 GMT
Thought the ref was good today as well. Mainly because he didnāt take any sh1t and showed it early on with his decisions and cards. That set the scene nicely for the rest of the match. My only criticism was he was a bit inconsistent with the holding and pushing but that seems to be a qualifying requirement for a ref at the moment. Good solid performance that was. And as we could easily be repeating that match in the playoffs it was v encouraging. If we could just sort out the fact that we beat the top teams but canāt do the same with lower teams weād be up there with Scunthorpe. Our stats against the top 8 and bottom 8 would be interesting this season. Top Tamworth 2-0 Scunthorpe 2-0 Curzon Ashton 1-0 Scarborough 0-1 & 3-0 Brackley 1-0 Sth Shields 1-0 Chorley 0-0 & 2-0 Alfreton 1-1 P10 W7 D2 L1 F13 A2 Pts24 Bottom Banbury 0-1 & 1-1 Spennymoor 1-1 Southport 2-0 Rushall 1-1 & 0-1 Kings Lynn 3-0 & 0-0 Gloucester 3-0 Darlington 2-3 Bishops Stortford 0-2 & 2-0 P12 W4 D4 L4 F15 A10 Pts16 Thank you - was not expecting that!! If I understand it correctly we have got 50% more points against the top 8 than the bottom 8 (on 2 less games played)! Which is a bit counterintuitive - and it backs up what we probably all suspected. As has been said above if we could work out a way to beat the āanti-footballā teams/generally up our game like we do against the top teams weād by challenging for auto promotion not playoffs.
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Post by agl on Feb 12, 2024 15:43:17 GMT
Top Tamworth 2-0 Scunthorpe 2-0 Curzon Ashton 1-0 Scarborough 0-1 & 3-0 Brackley 1-0 Sth Shields 1-0 Chorley 0-0 & 2-0 Alfreton 1-1 P10 W7 D2 L1 F13 A2 Pts24 Bottom Banbury 0-1 & 1-1 Spennymoor 1-1 Southport 2-0 Rushall 1-1 & 0-1 Kings Lynn 3-0 & 0-0 Gloucester 3-0 Darlington 2-3 Bishops Stortford 0-2 & 2-0 P12 W4 D4 L4 F15 A10 Pts16 Thank you - was not expecting that!! If I understand it correctly we have got 50% more points against the top 8 than the bottom 8 (on 2 less games played)! Which is a bit counterintuitive - and it backs up what we probably all suspected. As has been said above if we could work out a way to beat the āanti-footballā teams/generally up our game like we do against the top teams weād by challenging for auto promotion not playoffs. I think you need to break it down even further and look at away from home. Our record against bottom 8 at home isn't that bad. However, we've lost away at Bishops Stortford, Darlington and Banbury. Drawn at Rushall and Kings Lynn. I think our only away win against bottom 8 so far is Southport. Said in the past that you almost need two squads/ two playing styles ..some of the away pitches in this league are abysmal and you've just got to battle it out and try to win ugly. I think that's where our midfield tends to come unstuck.
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Post by weststander on Feb 12, 2024 19:02:50 GMT
Agree with this.
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