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Post by billyw on Feb 20, 2024 21:53:44 GMT
7 bookings - 8 if Weeks was booked twice. Is this a record.
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Post by league2 on Feb 20, 2024 21:54:18 GMT
Tough game that done well to get a point hereford were a very good team on the night. stanway superb, if tolit had slipped in weeks in the 1st half 2 0 game over ,good point overall, ref became a bit card happy 2nd half
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Post by dannydeva on Feb 20, 2024 22:06:33 GMT
Disappointing that! Was definitely a penalty, their player was trying to fowl Stanway, I couldn’t quite make out who it was for us that held their player… arms all over him. Stupid penalty to give away…
On to Spennymoor!
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Post by noddy on Feb 20, 2024 22:12:45 GMT
Good point on paper, disappointed we couldn't have hung on to take all 3 though. Some interesting results tonight and a good night for Chorley and Alfreton. Move on to Saturday against Spennymoor who have won their last two games so won't be easy.
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Post by Lon on Feb 20, 2024 22:12:45 GMT
Couldn’t see the pen as my view was restricted but can’t really complain considering how the second half went. We should really have had more than one goal to show for our first half performance though really. Still a decent point away at an ok side so can’t really complain. We’ve had much worse games this season!
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Post by chesterken on Feb 20, 2024 22:20:51 GMT
7 bookings - 8 if Weeks was booked twice. Is this a record. Very poor for senior players to queue up to get themselves booked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2024 22:21:20 GMT
Watching it back from the stream the Penalty was a mess, Whitehouse is all over him but as the ball comes in they both have each other in headlocks. I'd say it's the definition of six of one half a dozen of the other. Also we'll see a penalty every week if someone's standing on the keeper and the ref is giving them. Normally a ref would pull them up before the corners taken and tell them to calm it down.
We're still missing two of what I consider our top players in Coates and Caton, happy with a point though. 8 unbeaten results could have been worse. We're in a good run constantly up near the top of the form table.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 20, 2024 23:20:01 GMT
207 of our fans there apparently. Brilliant on a Tuesday night when we had another away game three days ago.
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Post by yoshimitsu on Feb 20, 2024 23:21:33 GMT
Bit annoying we couldn’t get a win. Felt we created more chances than them. The constant cries of ‘handball!’ was a bit weird. Dunno if they were or weren’t. They definitely did handball in their area towards the end but hand was down and alongside body so probably fair not to give it.
Thought the front two looked tired. Perhaps change it up for last 10? Having said that we did create some chances towards the end so what do I know.
Good game to watch.
Short return trip for us also so bonus point for that.
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Post by avfo on Feb 20, 2024 23:36:09 GMT
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Feb 21, 2024 1:28:21 GMT
I guess walking out the ground I was content with the point given the game overall. 1 st half we were much the better team and controlled the game for long spells . We got the goal from what seemed an awful goal keeping gaff. Had chances for a 2 nd but it didn’t materialise. At that stage the officials had done really well . Second half was a different story . For the first 10 minutes or so we kept them fairly quiet without offering too much ourselves. Then suddenly they stepped it up and put us under considerable pressure until they eventually got the penalty awarded. We picked up 8 yellow cards of which half of those seemed soft. We had two penalty shouts ourselves the one I thought looked a foul ? And the handball although obvious sometimes they give them . Not sure he had the bottle to give it? Whilst they showed what they are about second half we lost control of the game in the middle of the park and looked tired at times . Stanway made at least two great stops to keep it at 1-1 . Despite falling away a bit second half we did have the through ball which wasn’t quite executed correctly . A glorious Glendon chance and as I’ve mentioned the two penalty shouts. I don’t know what was said at full time but Cal was having a long chat with the ref about matters. Those who were better placed than me said their goal that was chalked off for offside was debatable . Given recent results the table etc a point there isn’t too shabby. Lovely to go to a proper football ground FairPlay to our 200 plus who I felt really got behind us tonight .
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Post by muffinthemule on Feb 21, 2024 8:13:56 GMT
Does Stanway's booking mean he also misses Scunny game? Not sure how many he's got now
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Post by kyle on Feb 21, 2024 9:14:12 GMT
Don't know why we didn't make any other subs. Some of the lads were running on fumes by the end
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Post by leedsutd234 on Feb 21, 2024 10:10:22 GMT
207 of our fans there apparently. Brilliant on a Tuesday night when we had another away game three days ago. The guy on Mixir said 270.
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Post by glosblue on Feb 21, 2024 11:07:49 GMT
I thought that was as one-sided a refereeing performance as I've seen in a long time - a real homer. In the second half it seemed almost every challenge was given as a free kick to them. Hereford played well in that half, but were able to keep the pressure on as a result, which told in the end. There was barely a bad tackle in the game but most of our team was booked, yet Murray was repeatedly kicked up in the air, went off injured, and half the challenges on him weren't even given as fouls, let alone warranted a booking in the refs eyes. And booking us for time wasting when they did exactly the same minutes later was a joke. The penalty was a mystery (I spoke to some Hereford fans after the match and they didn't spot anything in the home end at the time, and didn't know what it was given for either). so if there was any contact it must have been extremely harsh. Defensively we were excellent, and Stanway (again) was great when needed - and almost saved the penalty. The front two had an off day, but our tactic of lumping long balls up to them didn't help, and their defenders were all monsters. Declan needs to just shut up sometimes - or George should pull him away. Daft and unprofessional to get a second yellow after the final whistle. Definitely should have used more subs - Burke for one was clearly suffering in the last few minutes with a knock. I'd have taken a point before the game, so from that pov job done.
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Post by Anders on Feb 21, 2024 11:45:32 GMT
207 of our fans there apparently. Brilliant on a Tuesday night when we had another away game three days ago. The guy on Mixir said 270. Definitely 207, announced over the PA and on the scoreboard.
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Post by reasonabully on Feb 21, 2024 13:18:53 GMT
I thought that was as one-sided a refereeing performance as I've seen in a long time - a real homer. In the second half it seemed almost every challenge was given as a free kick to them. Hereford played well in that half, but were able to keep the pressure on as a result, which told in the end. There was barely a bad tackle in the game but most of our team was booked, yet Murray was repeatedly kicked up in the air, went off injured, and half the challenges on him weren't even given as fouls, let alone warranted a booking in the refs eyes. And booking us for time wasting when they did exactly the same minutes later was a joke. The penalty was a mystery (I spoke to some Hereford fans after the match and they didn't spot anything in the home end at the time, and didn't know what it was given for either). so if there was any contact it must have been extremely harsh. Defensively we were excellent, and Stanway (again) was great when needed - and almost saved the penalty. The front two had an off day, but our tactic of lumping long balls up to them didn't help, and their defenders were all monsters. Declan needs to just shut up sometimes - or George should pull him away. Daft and unprofessional to get a second yellow after the final whistle. Definitely should have used more subs - Burke for one was clearly suffering in the last few minutes with a knock. I'd have taken a point before the game, so from that pov job done. Hereford fan here with a slightly different view of some aspects of the game! Refereeing is always a contentious issue but in terms of the number of Chester bookings, a lot came when you were under considerable pressure and a bit desperate in the second half. One or two may have been soft but not 8!!! The penalty was no mystery -it was clear. Your keeper repeatedly slowing matters down was eventually only going to have one outcome. Other than that he played well by the way! I don't normally associate Chester with the 'black arts' but the rolling over and faining injury that we saw last night reminded me of Tamworth!! Weeks chopsing himself into a card after 90 minutes was, as you say, also poor. I was also looking forward to seeing the much vaunted Tollitt -did he miss the bus? Both sides had chances to win that game but in the end after the second half you were probably happy to get a point out of it. Thought it was a good game overall between two decent sides. Think you'll make the play-offs but we'll struggle to get there unless we get our two wingers back on the pitch. We've missed them the last two games. Thanks for the entertainment! I always look forward to the Chester games. Have a good rest the season.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 21, 2024 13:28:23 GMT
I thought that was as one-sided a refereeing performance as I've seen in a long time - a real homer. In the second half it seemed almost every challenge was given as a free kick to them. Hereford played well in that half, but were able to keep the pressure on as a result, which told in the end. There was barely a bad tackle in the game but most of our team was booked, yet Murray was repeatedly kicked up in the air, went off injured, and half the challenges on him weren't even given as fouls, let alone warranted a booking in the refs eyes. And booking us for time wasting when they did exactly the same minutes later was a joke. The penalty was a mystery (I spoke to some Hereford fans after the match and they didn't spot anything in the home end at the time, and didn't know what it was given for either). so if there was any contact it must have been extremely harsh. Defensively we were excellent, and Stanway (again) was great when needed - and almost saved the penalty. The front two had an off day, but our tactic of lumping long balls up to them didn't help, and their defenders were all monsters. Declan needs to just shut up sometimes - or George should pull him away. Daft and unprofessional to get a second yellow after the final whistle. Definitely should have used more subs - Burke for one was clearly suffering in the last few minutes with a knock. I'd have taken a point before the game, so from that pov job done. Murray does get fouled a lot but he's probably also getting a reputation for trying to buy free kicks a bit too often. This penalty seems a strange one. I've seen fans of both clubs say it was both blatant and harsh. We've had some fairly soft ones in our favour in recently weeks anyway.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 21, 2024 13:34:50 GMT
I thought that was as one-sided a refereeing performance as I've seen in a long time - a real homer. In the second half it seemed almost every challenge was given as a free kick to them. Hereford played well in that half, but were able to keep the pressure on as a result, which told in the end. There was barely a bad tackle in the game but most of our team was booked, yet Murray was repeatedly kicked up in the air, went off injured, and half the challenges on him weren't even given as fouls, let alone warranted a booking in the refs eyes. And booking us for time wasting when they did exactly the same minutes later was a joke. The penalty was a mystery (I spoke to some Hereford fans after the match and they didn't spot anything in the home end at the time, and didn't know what it was given for either). so if there was any contact it must have been extremely harsh. Defensively we were excellent, and Stanway (again) was great when needed - and almost saved the penalty. The front two had an off day, but our tactic of lumping long balls up to them didn't help, and their defenders were all monsters. Declan needs to just shut up sometimes - or George should pull him away. Daft and unprofessional to get a second yellow after the final whistle. Definitely should have used more subs - Burke for one was clearly suffering in the last few minutes with a knock. I'd have taken a point before the game, so from that pov job done. Hereford fan here with a slightly different view of some aspects of the game! Refereeing is always a contentious issue but in terms of the number of Chester bookings, a lot came when you were under considerable pressure and a bit desperate in the second half. One or two may have been soft but not 8!!! The penalty was no mystery -it was clear. Your keeper repeatedly slowing matters down was eventually only going to have one outcome. Other than that he played well by the way! I don't normally associate Chester with the 'black arts' but the rolling over and faining injury that we saw last night reminded me of Tamworth!! Weeks chopsing himself into a card after 90 minutes was, as you say, also poor. I was also looking forward to seeing the much vaunted Tollitt -did he miss the bus? Both sides had chances to win that game but in the end after the second half you were probably happy to get a point out of it. Thought it was a good game overall between two decent sides. Think you'll make the play-offs but we'll struggle to get there unless we get our two wingers back on the pitch. We've missed them the last two games. Thanks for the entertainment! I always look forward to the Chester games. Have a good rest the season. I hate time wasting and play acting but it’s ingrained so far into the game now that even the officials accept it ,there’s not a team in the league that don’t do it and that includes Hereford who did plenty during your 0-1 win at our place earlier in the season.
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Post by noddy on Feb 21, 2024 15:14:09 GMT
Hereford fan here with a slightly different view of some aspects of the game! Refereeing is always a contentious issue but in terms of the number of Chester bookings, a lot came when you were under considerable pressure and a bit desperate in the second half. One or two may have been soft but not 8!!! The penalty was no mystery -it was clear. Your keeper repeatedly slowing matters down was eventually only going to have one outcome. Other than that he played well by the way! I don't normally associate Chester with the 'black arts' but the rolling over and faining injury that we saw last night reminded me of Tamworth!! Weeks chopsing himself into a card after 90 minutes was, as you say, also poor. I was also looking forward to seeing the much vaunted Tollitt -did he miss the bus? Both sides had chances to win that game but in the end after the second half you were probably happy to get a point out of it. Thought it was a good game overall between two decent sides. Think you'll make the play-offs but we'll struggle to get there unless we get our two wingers back on the pitch. We've missed them the last two games. Thanks for the entertainment! I always look forward to the Chester games. Have a good rest the season. I hate time wasting and play acting but it’s ingrained so far into the game now that even the officials accept it ,there’s not a team in the league that don’t do it and that includes Hereford who did plenty during your 0-1 win at our place earlier in the season. Was 2-1 to Hereford Ken, they scored twice in the last 10 minutes so it wasn't Hereford time wasting, think their subs changed the game as we tried to sit on our half time lead.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 21, 2024 16:03:57 GMT
I hate time wasting and play acting but it’s ingrained so far into the game now that even the officials accept it ,there’s not a team in the league that don’t do it and that includes Hereford who did plenty during your 0-1 win at our place earlier in the season. Was 2-1 to Hereford Ken, they scored twice in the last 10 minutes so it wasn't Hereford time wasting, think their subs changed the game as we tried to sit on our half time lead. We all know that our team is doing it just like every team in any league does , but we like to call it game management when it’s us. Must have heard it 10 times on the commentary last night.
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Post by dc2cfc on Feb 21, 2024 16:25:48 GMT
Unbelievable from the referee last night, he even booked the linesman for dropping a fart in the changing room after the game. To the staff member who got his order wrong in McDonalds on the way home. Even yellow cards his kids for not doing their homework!
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Post by jimianto on Feb 21, 2024 16:26:21 GMT
I thought that was as one-sided a refereeing performance as I've seen in a long time - a real homer. In the second half it seemed almost every challenge was given as a free kick to them. Hereford played well in that half, but were able to keep the pressure on as a result, which told in the end. There was barely a bad tackle in the game but most of our team was booked, yet Murray was repeatedly kicked up in the air, went off injured, and half the challenges on him weren't even given as fouls, let alone warranted a booking in the refs eyes. And booking us for time wasting when they did exactly the same minutes later was a joke. The penalty was a mystery (I spoke to some Hereford fans after the match and they didn't spot anything in the home end at the time, and didn't know what it was given for either). so if there was any contact it must have been extremely harsh. Defensively we were excellent, and Stanway (again) was great when needed - and almost saved the penalty. The front two had an off day, but our tactic of lumping long balls up to them didn't help, and their defenders were all monsters. Declan needs to just shut up sometimes - or George should pull him away. Daft and unprofessional to get a second yellow after the final whistle. Definitely should have used more subs - Burke for one was clearly suffering in the last few minutes with a knock. I'd have taken a point before the game, so from that pov job done. Hereford fan here with a slightly different view of some aspects of the game! Refereeing is always a contentious issue but in terms of the number of Chester bookings, a lot came when you were under considerable pressure and a bit desperate in the second half. One or two may have been soft but not 8!!! The penalty was no mystery -it was clear. Your keeper repeatedly slowing matters down was eventually only going to have one outcome. Other than that he played well by the way! I don't normally associate Chester with the 'black arts' but the rolling over and faining injury that we saw last night reminded me of Tamworth!! Weeks chopsing himself into a card after 90 minutes was, as you say, also poor. I was also looking forward to seeing the much vaunted Tollitt -did he miss the bus? Both sides had chances to win that game but in the end after the second half you were probably happy to get a point out of it. Thought it was a good game overall between two decent sides. Think you'll make the play-offs but we'll struggle to get there unless we get our two wingers back on the pitch. We've missed them the last two games. Thanks for the entertainment! I always look forward to the Chester games. Have a good rest the season. I agree with most of that. I think the Kev Roberts booking was harsh, but other than that they were what you'd expect. We don't know what Glendon said on the penalty decision that 'merited' a card. The penno itself was foolish by Elliot - you could see before the corner that it was a 50/50 wrestle, but as the ball came over, he clearly gripped the stationary Hereford player with both hands. I think defenders get away with this the majority of the time, but it did seem a little excessive on this occasion. I think the 2 worst tackles were by Hereford - the one on Murray by Cowley was awful and should have resulted in a red, rather than a yellow - he went in studs up, but thankfully missed and only got second prize with his shin connecting with Iwan instead. Then Burke was caught with a nasty scissor tackle in the far corner in the second half and the ref didn't even give a free kick. The result was fair - I think we should have been 2 up at half time and Hereford were comfortably 2 goals better than us second half. The set piece delivery from Babos was quality.
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Post by noddy on Feb 21, 2024 16:37:40 GMT
Was 2-1 to Hereford Ken, they scored twice in the last 10 minutes so it wasn't Hereford time wasting, think their subs changed the game as we tried to sit on our half time lead. We all know that our team is doing it just like every team in any league does , but we like to call it game management when it’s us. Must have heard it 10 times on the commentary last night. Agreed Ken, we are as guilty as anyone when it comes to timewasting. The point I was making though was you said Hereford were doing it when they won at our place, 1-0, they wasn't because they were chasing the game and scored 2 late goals.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 21, 2024 16:45:18 GMT
We all know that our team is doing it just like every team in any league does , but we like to call it game management when it’s us. Must have heard it 10 times on the commentary last night. Agreed Ken, we are as guilty as anyone when it comes to timewasting. The point I was making though was you said Hereford were doing it when they won at our place, 1-0, they wasn't because they were chasing the game and scored 2 late goals. Those last two minutes were the worst I’ve ever witnessed 😉
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Post by avfo on Feb 21, 2024 17:24:34 GMT
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Post by Harry Lime on Feb 21, 2024 18:23:04 GMT
Looking at those highlights the penalty is harsh. Whitehouse and the Hereford player are both wrestling each other. Problem is, Whitehouse then pushes him away and to the ground. Decent Officials and VAR would normally say both at it and not give anything.
If you have a poor twitchy referee teams can play them. A penalty is a huge advantage over an attacker just giving a free kick away. Its worth creating contact and pushing to catch his attention, then go over.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 21, 2024 18:45:20 GMT
Looking at those highlights the penalty is harsh. Whitehouse and the Hereford player are both wrestling each other. Problem is, Whitehouse then pushes him away and to the ground. Decent Officials and VAR would normally say both at it and not give anything. I think it's a penalty. Yes, their player was wrestling as well, but Whitehouse put his arm round him first, and he ended it by shoving him over. I'm more annoyed by the penalty itself. I hesitate to say Stanway should've saved it but that must be the worst successful penalty I've ever seen!
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Post by yoshimitsu on Feb 21, 2024 18:49:32 GMT
Pardon my French but what an absolutely fucking awful penalty to give away that was.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 21, 2024 19:17:09 GMT
Pardon my French but what an absolutely fucking awful penalty to give away that was. Yep, especially when the corner was comfortably headed away. "Penhouse" at both ends this week, sadly! Still, four points from those two away games is a good return.
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