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Post by yossergolf on Mar 24, 2024 13:56:03 GMT
Anyone have a clue why the livewire Burton never got on the pitch. Should have started imo. On paper Caton, Peers and Tollitt ahead of him, in reality maybe not. Peers and Tollitt disappointing yesterday, Caton looked up for it until his injury
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Post by oldtimer on Mar 24, 2024 13:59:57 GMT
So your issue is with the manager then? He chooses the system. I agree it’s not working. Replace Glendon, Weeks or Peers with any other player in this division and the problems will persist. But it’s much easier to call them ‘Captain Fantastic’ and scapegoat them all. Both are at fault. As others have pointed out, we’ve seen that game yesterday a dozen times and that’s on the manager. Sadly he’s put too much trust in certain players to deliver regularly and they haven’t because they cannot adapt. We go a 1-0 down and it’s game over. That’s on the players and picking the same personnel will not change things. Needs Coates, Burton, Edwards in the back 4, Roberts, Weeks and Burke in midfield and Thomas, Peers and Tolitt up front. Would offer something considerably different to the sideways walking football we’ve seen too many times. this spot on
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Post by superhans on Mar 24, 2024 14:54:34 GMT
Just to throw in some balance, last year we had Willoughby. This year it's Caton. Looked like a good signing but just hadn't worked out. Stuck with him next season too, I believe. Agreed. I don't really get people blaming the budget when we only lost Kurt and Tyrer in the summer, it's not like we lost the core of a squad that finished 3rd. The majority were here last season. The majority walk into every team in this league bar Scunny. We've signed plenty of forwards in Kurt's place, so clearly we have the budget but it's been a scattergun approach. Everyone was excited when we signed Caton permanently but clearly he isn't Kurt, he's got potential but his confidence is at rock bottom, no service and probably not fully fit. And again on budget, do people really think Brackley, Curzon, Tamworth are blowing us out of the water budget wise? I don't think so. They have small squads and players we'd call jobbers for this level. We've tried to attract players from the league(s) above and I think it's a more long term approach. We've been burnt before when a part time squad can't commit to full time NL travel / football. I've been saying the last few weeks months that Cal has to try something else. Stick some players on the touchline and give the opposition something else to worry about, we're so predictable it hurts at the minute. Great turnout yesterday all things considered but the amount of people that left at 0-1 shows how low confidence is amongst the fanbase, we were never going to score with that approach yesterday. We all love Cal but it's a huge worry how we've sleepwalked into this position
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Post by highpeakblue on Mar 24, 2024 16:14:47 GMT
Anyone have a clue why the livewire Burton never got on the pitch. Should have started imo. On paper Caton, Peers and Tollitt ahead of him, in reality maybe not. Peers and Tollitt disappointing yesterday, Caton looked up for it until his injury I don't think Burton is in competition with those 3. More Woodthorpe or could possibly be thrown into midfield. Decent player, but puzzling signing. The only thing I can think is that he is supposed to be replacing Taylor, but did we need another left back/left sided central defender?
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Post by archwhopper on Mar 24, 2024 16:27:35 GMT
Just to throw in some balance, last year we had Willoughby. This year it's Caton. Looked like a good signing but just hadn't worked out. Stuck with him next season too, I believe. if caton was played in the position he was signed for ie centre forward given a decent injury free run, i'm sure the goals would come, recentley he has been a left sided forward/winger which didn't suit but to put him on the right yesterday and being predominantly left footed i found bewildering to say the least, a few people on here have noticed too, but how shit is peers, 3 airshots yesterday and couldn't do the basics, trapping the ball etc, cant believe he starts on a regular basis now, must have something on callum
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Post by Lobster on Mar 24, 2024 18:50:31 GMT
Just to throw in some balance, last year we had Willoughby. This year it's Caton. Looked like a good signing but just hadn't worked out. Stuck with him next season too, I believe. But Caton was here for the majority of last season, so that's not a replacement. Caton and Hall both did pretty well alongside Willoughby last season, but if we were expecting either of them to replace his goals, that was never going to happen. I don't necessarily think you need a 20+ goal striker to do well - we didn't have one last time we won this league - but if you don't have one you need to find a different way to score goals. That means using set pieces well, getting your defenders to weigh in by bringing them up for corners, playing incisive through balls and, though I hate the "shoooot" thing, having a pop now and again. You can't just grind your way through games and hope the ball finds its way into the net.
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Post by theshed1 on Mar 24, 2024 18:55:19 GMT
Just to throw in some balance, last year we had Willoughby. This year it's Caton. Looked like a good signing but just hadn't worked out. Stuck with him next season too, I believe. But Caton was here for the majority of last season, so that's not a replacement. Caton and Hall both did pretty well alongside Willoughby last season, but if we were expecting either of them to replace his goals, that was never going to happen. I don't necessarily think you need a 20+ goal striker to do well - we didn't have one last time we won this league - but if you don't have one you need to find a different way to score goals. That means using set pieces well, getting your defenders to weigh in by bringing them up for corners, playing incisive through balls and, though I hate the "shoooot" thing, having a pop now and again. You can't just grind your way through games and hope the ball finds its way into the net. Not sure I agree with the 20+ striker unfortunately I'm old enough to remember the famous 5 all of them scored 20 or more and we didn't get promoted fucking entertaining though you need someone to bang em in to be there or thereabouts
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Post by agl on Mar 24, 2024 19:38:16 GMT
Just to throw in some balance, last year we had Willoughby. This year it's Caton. Looked like a good signing but just hadn't worked out. Stuck with him next season too, I believe. But Caton was here for the majority of last season, so that's not a replacement. Caton and Hall both did pretty well alongside Willoughby last season, but if we were expecting either of them to replace his goals, that was never going to happen. I don't necessarily think you need a 20+ goal striker to do well - we didn't have one last time we won this league - but if you don't have one you need to find a different way to score goals. That means using set pieces well, getting your defenders to weigh in by bringing them up for corners, playing incisive through balls and, though I hate the "shoooot" thing, having a pop now and again. You can't just grind your way through games and hope the ball finds its way into the net. I don't think all the strikers we've used this season have much more than 10 between them. No getting away from that, especially as we have Glendon in double figures.
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Post by dc2cfc on Mar 25, 2024 10:50:43 GMT
We simply have let it go since the 1st of January game at Warrington. The form that we currently have doesn't deserve to be in the Play-Offs.
Celebrating draws and clean sheets as if they have been wins is not the way to go, personally was fed up of hearing this "11 unbeaten" on Twitter etc. When we had won about 3 games and drew 8.
Unfortunately too many draws and the 1-0 defeats and not enough goals have sadly damaged our season to the point we might not even make the play-offs!
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Post by leedsutd234 on Mar 25, 2024 10:54:44 GMT
!0th place finish this season I'm afraid unless something radical happens these last 5 games. Burton and Tollit playing from the off would be a start.
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Post by moldcestrian on Mar 25, 2024 11:18:20 GMT
Don’t get me wrong, I’m critical of Cal and the players of late but I can’t be having the fans chucking in the towel.
Buxton is winnable, point v Alfreton and beat Gloucester and we’ll be absolutely in it.
Got to keep the faith and support.
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Post by blaconblues on Mar 25, 2024 11:26:33 GMT
Don’t get me wrong, I’m critical of Cal and the players of late but I can’t be having the fans chucking in the towel. Buxton is winnable, point v Alfreton and beat Gloucester and we’ll be absolutely in it. Got to keep the faith and support. This. I think we forget at times our budget, our limitations but also the fact we have a club to support and own. If we can get behind them at Oldham/Southport/Scunthorpe away in numbers then as owners/fans, we should certainly be doing it when they need it most. Starting Good Friday, I would expect a serious following of blues to Buxton and give it everything.
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Post by dc2cfc on Mar 25, 2024 11:52:21 GMT
Don’t get me wrong, I’m critical of Cal and the players of late but I can’t be having the fans chucking in the towel. Buxton is winnable, point v Alfreton and beat Gloucester and we’ll be absolutely in it. Got to keep the faith and support. Don't think any fans are chucking the towel in, We need to be winning all 3 of those games, again a point against a playoff rival might not be enough at this stage
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Post by noddy on Mar 25, 2024 11:58:34 GMT
Don’t get me wrong, I’m critical of Cal and the players of late but I can’t be having the fans chucking in the towel. Buxton is winnable, point v Alfreton and beat Gloucester and we’ll be absolutely in it. Got to keep the faith and support. Definitely, though that depends on tactics and a willingness to go out to win games and not just stay in games and try and pinch them.
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Post by properblue87 on Mar 25, 2024 12:02:13 GMT
Going to be difficult to get a playoff spot but I believe in cal and the team.
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Post by moldcestrian on Mar 25, 2024 12:09:51 GMT
Don’t get me wrong, I’m critical of Cal and the players of late but I can’t be having the fans chucking in the towel. Buxton is winnable, point v Alfreton and beat Gloucester and we’ll be absolutely in it. Got to keep the faith and support. Don't think any fans are chucking the towel in, We need to be winning all 3 of those games, again a point against a playoff rival might not be enough at this stage There’s definitely a few comments here and on socials. Buxton are not going up or down so if they come and attack us we’ll pick them off with any luck. Gloucester are down so touch wood we’ll show up and Alfreton I’ll take a point. Darlo last game could be interesting if they aren’t safe.
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Post by yossergolf on Mar 25, 2024 12:22:04 GMT
Don’t get me wrong, I’m critical of Cal and the players of late but I can’t be having the fans chucking in the towel. Buxton is winnable, point v Alfreton and beat Gloucester and we’ll be absolutely in it. Got to keep the faith and support. This. I think we forget at times our budget, our limitations but also the fact we have a club to support and own. If we can get behind them at Oldham/Southport/Scunthorpe away in numbers then as owners/fans, we should certainly be doing it when they need it most. Starting Good Friday, I would expect a serious following of blues to Buxton and give it everything. Totally agree we need to give 100% over these last few games and hope results go our way and we make the playoffs, then it’s a lottery, any one can win them. Don’t agree fully with budget and limitations, many around us must have lower budgets based on their average attendances of 500 or so. To be honest no body knows what other clubs resources are but we must have a healthy budget compared to many in the league.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Mar 25, 2024 14:55:12 GMT
Yeah ok fair enough we need a big push the last 5 games this MUST come from players and management fans done their bit lately at scunny and good following at Tamworth recently as well in good voice and we were treated to watching a side that couldn’t hit a barn door in front of goal . Yet being asked to give more it’s almost insulting and offensive it’s not as if the club are paying /subsidising supporters costs attending away games . Sorry but that’s how it makes me feel anyone else who attends a lot of away games feel the same?
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Post by blaconblues on Mar 25, 2024 15:32:30 GMT
Yeah ok fair enough we need a big push the last 5 games this MUST come from players and management fans done their bit lately at scunny and good following at Tamworth recently as well in good voice and we were treated to watching a side that couldn’t hit a barn door in front of goal . Yet being asked to give more it’s almost insulting and offensive it’s not as if the club are paying /subsidising supporters costs attending away games . Sorry but that’s how it makes me feel anyone else who attends a lot of away games feel the same? Why would the club or any club subsidise/pay for you to travel to games? It's your choice and for the fact you own the club as much as everyone else. If we don't give (more), who will?
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Post by Moltisanti on Mar 25, 2024 15:33:54 GMT
Yeah ok fair enough we need a big push the last 5 games this MUST come from players and management fans done their bit lately at scunny and good following at Tamworth recently as well in good voice and we were treated to watching a side that couldn’t hit a barn door in front of goal . Yet being asked to give more it’s almost insulting and offensive it’s not as if the club are paying /subsidising supporters costs attending away games . Sorry but that’s how it makes me feel anyone else who attends a lot of away games feel the same? Why would the club or any club subsidise/pay for you to travel to games? It's your choice and for the fact you own the club as much as everyone else. If we don't give (more), who will? You’re wasting your time mate. These people can’t be told.
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Post by moldcestrian on Mar 25, 2024 15:47:35 GMT
Yeah ok fair enough we need a big push the last 5 games this MUST come from players and management fans done their bit lately at scunny and good following at Tamworth recently as well in good voice and we were treated to watching a side that couldn’t hit a barn door in front of goal . Yet being asked to give more it’s almost insulting and offensive it’s not as if the club are paying /subsidising supporters costs attending away games . Sorry but that’s how it makes me feel anyone else who attends a lot of away games feel the same? This is up there with one Deva chats finest. You want your costs covered for going away games 😂😂 Get help
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Post by Moltisanti on Mar 25, 2024 15:56:45 GMT
Said it before our fans up there with the Goats. Some really strange people.
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Post by moldcestrian on Mar 25, 2024 16:13:12 GMT
Said it before our fans up there with the Goats. Some really strange people. Nothing will be as strange as ‘Big Fat Gaz’ in the Harry Mac. Looks and smells like Shrek - spends all game calling Cal a stupid little boy and saying Glendon is too small…. There’s also the bloke who goes games in like a 1980’s Sergio Tacchini tracksuit with a bag for life? Spends all game hammering the refs into submission. I guess we’re the normal ones STEPHEN.
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Post by Moltisanti on Mar 25, 2024 16:25:07 GMT
Said it before our fans up there with the Goats. Some really strange people. Nothing will be as strange as ‘Big Fat Gaz’ in the Harry Mac. Looks and smells like Shrek - spends all game calling Cal a stupid little boy and saying Glendon is too small…. There’s also the bloke who goes games in like a 1980’s Sergio Tacchini tracksuit with a bag for life? Spends all game hammering the refs into submission. I guess we’re the normal ones STEPHEN. That oddball posts on here as “Tooth” now. Changed his previous moniker
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Mar 25, 2024 16:57:15 GMT
Disappointing response to my post here I think The point I’m making is we are being asked to “give more” The backing from over 600 at Tamworth was pretty good I thought . It’s not the fans fault that we can’t find the net with free headers on the six yard line . To be described as odd and insulted via computer keyboard hhmmm I donate to squad builders don’t wish for a sugar daddy accept we are what we are am proud of that I am a season ticket holder . On current form we look as if we might not score again this season I attend games always encourage players never insult them On paper we have enough to get what’s required out these 5 games but on current form are miles off it . I have been watching us for 35 years and will do so until I am no Longer able to . Yes it’s peoples choice I go because I love our club and that love never stops. I like most of us are desperate for us to be successful It’s important they turn it around how I don’t know? Otherwise we will dwindle to 1500-1600 and under Cal thus far support and gates have been encouraging . I hope they clarifies a few matters
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Post by brooklaneblue on Mar 25, 2024 22:26:32 GMT
Why does Cal applaud every mistake the players make instead of giving them a bollocking? as Cal is not an arse kicker and this is part of the problem, he is afraid to drop players and therefor there is no compaction for places, I don't really need to point out the obvious.
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Post by brooklaneblue on Mar 25, 2024 22:47:11 GMT
Anyone have a clue why the livewire Burton never got on the pitch. Should have started
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