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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Sept 8, 2017 8:07:24 GMT
I have family who are Grimsby season ticket holders,so I thought I'd ask them about Bignot and they are very critical of him.
I shall quote " the worst manager we've ever had, the team had no system or shape, the players hated him largely because of his arrogance. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole"
I was quite keen til till I heard all this, now definitely making me think. I'd put him in the Ronnie Moore category now - thanks but no thanks.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 8, 2017 8:09:34 GMT
I have family who are Grimsby season ticket holders,so I thought I'd ask them about Bignot and they are very critical of him. I shall quote " the worst manager we've ever had, the team had no system or shape, the players hated him largely because of his arrogance. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole" I was quite keen til till I heard all this, now definitely making me think. I'd put him in the Ronnie Moore category now - thanks but no thanks. Goat alert!! |
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Post by Anders on Sept 8, 2017 8:21:05 GMT
Whoever we appoint will have probably been sacked somewhere else before now, for whatever reason. It’s just the way the world goes around.
Go to a review site before buying your next mobile phone and try and find one that doesn’t have at least one crap review for example, you’ll struggle.
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Post by gaz on Sept 8, 2017 8:25:37 GMT
I have family who are Grimsby season ticket holders,so I thought I'd ask them about Bignot and they are very critical of him. I shall quote " the worst manager we've ever had, the team had no system or shape, the players hated him largely because of his arrogance. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole" I was quite keen til till I heard all this, now definitely making me think. I'd put him in the Ronnie Moore category now - thanks but no thanks. Goat alert!! so any one that questions this candidate is from a neighbouring club......... well i am sure that the job advert which has been comically portrayed in the national news will attract the right candidates!!!! |
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Post by Imperial on Sept 8, 2017 9:44:39 GMT
Why are people so bothered that the job's being advertised? Just because it's not the "done thing"? Surely we want the best possible candidate & I'd say the best way to help ensure we do that is to cast as wide a net as possible.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 8, 2017 9:59:01 GMT
But you also have to notice he hit his objectives set out, it was off the field issues with the owner etc which caused problems.
He has done a superb job of scouting lower league talent and selling them on for £££. Bogle, Osborne etc
You're going to struggle to find a manager who hasn't been sacked in his/her career. It's a given it's going to happen somewhere.
He did superb at Solihull in the Conference North + Conference, and was at he helm at the club was totally transformed, with crowds doubling in the time he was there, about 10 more youth sides added etc.
He also did a decent job at Grimsby, in League Two. His sacking was met with mixed responses and the general feel I have read from a number of Mariners is that he should have been given more time and if so, they believe he would have been a success, as he was building something.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 8, 2017 10:34:11 GMT
Why are people so bothered that the job's being advertised? Just because it's not the "done thing"? Surely we want the best possible candidate & I'd say the best way to help ensure we do that is to cast as wide a net as possible. The club can't win really. If they appoint people without advertising the role, they're accused of "jobs for the boys" and suchlike. I think it's good that we've advertised it in the way we have, publicly and with clear details on what we're looking for in candidates. |
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Post by Imperial on Sept 8, 2017 10:39:42 GMT
Why are people so bothered that the job's being advertised? Just because it's not the "done thing"? Surely we want the best possible candidate & I'd say the best way to help ensure we do that is to cast as wide a net as possible. The club can't win really. If they appoint people without advertising the role, they're accused of "jobs for the boys" and suchlike. I think it's good that we've advertised it in the way we have, publicly and with clear details on what we're looking for in candidates. Yeah I agree. And if it were to attract (serious) applicants that otherwise wouldn't have applied then all to the good no? |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 8, 2017 11:04:59 GMT
so any one that questions this candidate is from a neighbouring club......... well i am sure that the job advert which has been comically portrayed in the national news will attract the right candidates!!!! Very strange that a new poster would suddenly come on with such a controversial statement. Very fishy. |
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Post by norwegianblue on Sept 8, 2017 11:37:32 GMT
I have family who are Grimsby season ticket holders,so I thought I'd ask them about Bignot and they are very critical of him. I shall quote " the worst manager we've ever had, the team had no system or shape, the players hated him largely because of his arrogance. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole" I was quite keen til till I heard all this, now definitely making me think. I'd put him in the Ronnie Moore category now - thanks but no thanks. He should slot into JM's job seamlessly  |
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Post by Charfield Blue on Sept 8, 2017 12:01:01 GMT
so any one that questions this candidate is from a neighbouring club......... well i am sure that the job advert which has been comically portrayed in the national news will attract the right candidates!!!! If an official job advertisement, on an official website of a fans owned, sustainably run, solvent football club is a thing of comedy then I would suggest that this tells you more about the inadequacies of the media as opposed to those of the football club. |
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Post by highpeakblue on Sept 8, 2017 12:10:24 GMT
I've also read comments from Grimsby fans who thought he wasn't given enough time. You can hear many opinions, as you know
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Sept 8, 2017 13:59:58 GMT
I'll support whoever is appointed, but I hope it's not Bignot. I won't post the quote/text I received it is very scathing of him!
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 8, 2017 14:49:36 GMT
There's a Solihull fan on Facebook who has always been weirdly obsessed with Chester (in a bad way) who has admitted it would be a fantastic appointment. That tells you something aye.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 8, 2017 14:50:25 GMT
Bignot's record at Grimsby reads 34 points from 27 games, which is not fantastic but no disgrace. It would be about 58 points over a season which is lower mid-table stuff. From an outsider's point of view, you'd probably say that's not bad going in Grimsby's first season back in the league and he deserved a bit more time, but football clubs no longer seem to think like that.
Solihull are basically a team that shouldn't be playing at this level and only are because he got them there. In size, we're somewhere in the middle between the two clubs he's managed, so hopefully if he's given the job (and he would be my first choice out of the realistic candidates) he can draw on his experiences of working with limited means at Solihull, and what he's learned from his brief time in L2.
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Post by billyw on Sept 8, 2017 14:51:32 GMT
I have family who are Grimsby season ticket holders,so I thought I'd ask them about Bignot and they are very critical of him. I shall quote " the worst manager we've ever had, the team had no system or shape, the players hated him largely because of his arrogance. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole" I was quite keen til till I heard all this, now definitely making me think. I'd put him in the Ronnie Moore category now - thanks but no thanks. Goat alert!! Before you dismiss the poster as a 'goat' I suggest you look at Grimsby's forum page 36, and you might give him an apology. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 15:02:47 GMT
Before you dismiss the poster as a 'goat' I suggest you look at Grimsby's forum page 36, and you might give him an apology. I remember us playing (and beating) a Grimsby side who had already made the play offs and had an upcoming Wembley final and still got booed by their own fans. Sounds like the type of fans with ridiculous expectations. Marcus Bignots blue and white army!!! |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 8, 2017 15:46:30 GMT
Before you dismiss the poster as a 'goat' I suggest you look at Grimsby's forum page 36, and you might give him an apology. It's a bit of banter Billy. I'm sure he can fight his own battles and I haven't got the time or inclination to go looking on Grimsby's forum. I stand by what I say and that is give Marcus Bignot the job (til the end of the season with an extension based on us not being relegated).. |
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Post by gaz on Sept 8, 2017 15:53:24 GMT
so any one that questions this candidate is from a neighbouring club......... well i am sure that the job advert which has been comically portrayed in the national news will attract the right candidates!!!! Very strange that a new poster would suddenly come on with such a controversial statement. Very fishy. whats fishy .......... you registered for this forum four days before me so clearly have precedence ................. |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 8, 2017 16:04:59 GMT
Fishy ~ Grimsby ~ gawd Chester fans are so dim.
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Post by mcseal on Sept 8, 2017 17:08:46 GMT
Wonder if the board will be interogating Ross Hannah with his Grimsby connections to get the low down on how Bignot was perceived there.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 8, 2017 18:43:27 GMT
Might be interesting to do exactly that.
He is far better judged on his time at Solihull Moors imo.
As previous post indicates he transformed them from a very average conference north outfit with gates of 250 into a club which was over achieving but holding its own in the conference. Bringing several players on and selling them on for a substantial profit. I'm not hearing anything coming from Solihull supporters which would put me off giving him a chance to manage us.
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Post by The Swansway on Sept 8, 2017 19:10:17 GMT
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 8, 2017 19:12:54 GMT
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Post by gone4eva on Sept 8, 2017 22:33:53 GMT
If we have him we will be in a similar position next season ummhing and aahing if to fire him.
Posting this so can refer to it in a year, much like my posts earlier this year on Jon.
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Post by Si on Sept 9, 2017 12:11:30 GMT
If we have him we will be in a similar position next season ummhing and aahing if to fire him. Posting this so can refer to it in a year, much like my posts earlier this year on Jon. Oh gosh did you want JM out earlier than the rest of us? I don't think you have mentioned this. You must be thrilled. |
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Post by devavictrix on Sept 9, 2017 12:34:36 GMT
If we have him we will be in a similar position next season ummhing and aahing if to fire him. Posting this so can refer to it in a year, much like my posts earlier this year on Jon. Out of interest and a genuine question, who would be your choice? |
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 9, 2017 12:48:53 GMT
Might be interesting to do exactly that. He is far better judged on his time at Solihull Moors imo. As previous post indicates he transformed them from a very average conference north outfit with gates of 250 into a club which was over achieving but holding its own in the conference. Bringing several players on and selling them on for a substantial profit. I'm not hearing anything coming from Solihull supporters which would put me off giving him a chance to manage us. He certainly achieved a lot at Solihull. However, they may have more money than you realise. Alan (our ex Chairman) posted the other week in a different thread that Solihull received £300k a year from Land Rover, for use of the car park. That's close to our total squad budget. It does appear that his recruitment is very good. That is half the battle at this level. He should certainly be on the interview list. |
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Post by gone4eva on Sept 9, 2017 15:04:28 GMT
If we have him we will be in a similar position next season ummhing and aahing if to fire him. Posting this so can refer to it in a year, much like my posts earlier this year on Jon. Out of interest and a genuine question, who would be your choice? Askey but we will not get him / afford him. The sacking has cost us £x,xxx to £xx,xxx and the elephant in the room is the two year deal is directly impacting our ability to replace and that will then knock on to the next year or two of football. Poor decisions and lack of oversight is and will keep having an affect. But just shut up, do some banta and buy a pie. |
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 9, 2017 19:34:48 GMT
Has anybody mentioned that Bignot was in the stand today.
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