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Post by everhopeful on Sept 20, 2017 17:40:19 GMT
The offensive postings by Whopper 3 are a perfect advert for moderation a bit more like DC1. He's upsetting so many people on here and not averse to using language that you wouldn't want your kids to see, but nothing is done. He's deliberately upsetting people - obviously a WUM and Wxm supporter, but nothing is done. This is too far removed from the draconian system on DC1. Something should be done and W3 should be removed.
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Post by shango on Sept 20, 2017 17:44:43 GMT
He's not offensive.Ok he hog's thread's and turn's them into 'all about him' but he doesnt offend me personally. I'd say more enjoy's being and irritant.
He believed David Koresh was the messiah i read.Hmm?
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 20, 2017 18:01:29 GMT
He's harmless. I think he just sets out to provoke a reaction.
I think the moderators on here are ace .. unlike that shithouse Canadian Exile.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Sept 20, 2017 18:01:33 GMT
If a post offends you use the report button on that post, and the mods will take action if they think it needs it
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 20, 2017 18:08:16 GMT
He's not offensive to be fair just a sad little WUM who enjoys a bit of trolling. In truth its pretty harmless, albeit irritating at times.
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Post by thetheremin on Sept 20, 2017 18:08:51 GMT
will surely burn himself out soon enough
Nobody could singlehandedly infest a message board 24/7 like he does and last very long.
In the meantime ignore or be civil
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Post by Matt on Sept 20, 2017 18:25:04 GMT
Anything reported is looked at and anything personal or abusive will be removed and maybe the user. I'm sure Big Si and EWO will echo that.
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Post by bing on Sept 20, 2017 19:53:12 GMT
Maybe I'm going soft in my old age, but all this sniping at Whopper - a volunteer at our club no less - is not right.
Whopper, I'd like to buy you a drink in the Blues Bar before Saturday's game. PM me to redeem a frothy beer of your choosing.
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Post by Si on Sept 20, 2017 20:12:04 GMT
DC1 behaviour would have been to ban him because of his opinions. We will never do that here. I hardly ever agree with him and think he could handle himself a lot better on here but he is just stating his opinion. I'd suggest if you don't like it then simply ignore it. If it's abusive, report it and me or the mods will take whatever action we deem appropriate. I'd personally feel uncomfortable about banning a volunteer for having strong opinions and being a bit confrontational. People replying to him aren't covering themselves in glory either.....if he is a WUM as he is frequently alleged then just ignore him otherwise just are giving a WUM exactly what he wants.
I feel we have the right balance on this board. The mods do a fantastic job and I'm grateful to them for their time spent keeping an eye on things. The debate flows well on here with plenty of contributors and plenty of different opinions. It's good to see that we still all have the passion for it all.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 20, 2017 20:16:00 GMT
This seems as good a thread as anywhere to post this - has this site gone all weird for anyone else? It's turned mostly black and white for me with the text all over the place.
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Post by Si on Sept 20, 2017 20:17:29 GMT
This seems as good a thread as anywhere to post this - has this site gone all weird for anyone else? It's turned mostly black and white for me with the text all over the place. It went a bit weird for about 2 mins a bit earlier on but fine for me now.
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Post by bing on Sept 20, 2017 20:18:01 GMT
This seems as good a thread as anywhere to post this - has this site gone all weird for anyone else? It's turned mostly black and white for me with the text all over the place. No, but a screen sometimes appears to say it's loading in. Perhaps they are maintaining the message board or something?
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Post by Rio Doherty on Sept 20, 2017 20:18:58 GMT
This seems as good a thread as anywhere to post this - has this site gone all weird for anyone else? It's turned mostly black and white for me with the text all over the place. Same here, was struggling to log on before but everything seems to be ok now.
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Post by noddy on Sept 20, 2017 21:18:30 GMT
This seems as good a thread as anywhere to post this - has this site gone all weird for anyone else? It's turned mostly black and white for me with the text all over the place. Glad it just wasn't me then!
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Sept 20, 2017 21:31:26 GMT
DC1 behaviour would have been to ban him because of his opinions. We will never do that here. I hardly ever agree with him and think he could handle himself a lot better on here but he is just stating his opinion. I'd suggest if you don't like it then simply ignore it. If it's abusive, report it and me or the mods will take whatever action we deem appropriate. I'd personally feel uncomfortable about banning a volunteer for having strong opinions and being a bit confrontational. People replying to him aren't covering themselves in glory either.....if he is a WUM as he is frequently alleged then just ignore him otherwise just are giving a WUM exactly what he wants. I feel we have the right balance on this board. The mods do a fantastic job and I'm grateful to them for their time spent keeping an eye on things. The debate flows well on here with plenty of contributors and plenty of different opinions. It's good to see that we still all have the passion for it all. Si you the other moderaters ought to be proud of this site. It has become a daily read for myself. And thoroughly enjoy doing so. Long may it continue.
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Post by bluesince79 on Sept 20, 2017 21:33:44 GMT
In keeping with modern social and moral standards, and in the interest of diversity and equality, whopper should be made a moderator of this forum.
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Post by Hannibal on Sept 21, 2017 7:24:32 GMT
This seems as good a thread as anywhere to post this - has this site gone all weird for anyone else? It's turned mostly black and white for me with the text all over the place. Not that, but I often get signed out and a warning that this site is difficult to reach. I sign back in again and its ok (for a while). Just got used to it now.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Sept 21, 2017 11:03:10 GMT
DC1 behaviour would have been to ban him because of his opinions. We will never do that here. I hardly ever agree with him and think he could handle himself a lot better on here but he is just stating his opinion. I'd suggest if you don't like it then simply ignore it. If it's abusive, report it and me or the mods will take whatever action we deem appropriate. I'd personally feel uncomfortable about banning a volunteer for having strong opinions and being a bit confrontational. People replying to him aren't covering themselves in glory either.....if he is a WUM as he is frequently alleged then just ignore him otherwise just are giving a WUM exactly what he wants. I feel we have the right balance on this board. The mods do a fantastic job and I'm grateful to them for their time spent keeping an eye on things. The debate flows well on here with plenty of contributors and plenty of different opinions. It's good to see that we still all have the passion for it all. Just like to echo the above point Big Si has made, we are removing as many if not more posts reported by Whopper as we are receiving about him.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 21, 2017 11:17:33 GMT
DC1 behaviour would have been to ban him because of his opinions. We will never do that here. I hardly ever agree with him and think he could handle himself a lot better on here but he is just stating his opinion. I'd suggest if you don't like it then simply ignore it. If it's abusive, report it and me or the mods will take whatever action we deem appropriate. I'd personally feel uncomfortable about banning a volunteer for having strong opinions and being a bit confrontational. People replying to him aren't covering themselves in glory either.....if he is a WUM as he is frequently alleged then just ignore him otherwise just are giving a WUM exactly what he wants. I feel we have the right balance on this board. The mods do a fantastic job and I'm grateful to them for their time spent keeping an eye on things. The debate flows well on here with plenty of contributors and plenty of different opinions. It's good to see that we still all have the passion for it all. Just like to echo the above point Big Si has made, we are removing as many if not more posts reported by Whopper as we are receiving about him. Doesn't that sum up the Whopper problem? They post stuff simply to get a response and wind people up. When this succeeds, they then report those they've sufficiently wound up! It's defended as freedom of speech, or freedom of opinion. I'd argue that Whopper doesn't actually believe most of what they post. If you only say stuff to get a reaction, you shouldn't bleat when they react. I actually believe Whopper (and a few sums) create a negative view of what is generally an honest forum of supporters views.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Sept 21, 2017 11:23:31 GMT
Just like to echo the above point Big Si has made, we are removing as many if not more posts reported by Whopper as we are receiving about him. Doesn't that sum up the Whopper problem? They post stuff simply to get a response and wind people up. When this succeeds, they then report those they've sufficiently wound up! It's defended as freedom of speech, or freedom of opinion. I'd argue that Whopper doesn't actually believe most of what they post. If you only say stuff to get a reaction, you shouldn't bleat when they react. I actually believe Whopper (and a few sums) create a negative view of what is generally an honest forum of supporters views. Absolutely correct sir. And this is why no one believes that Whopper 1, 2, 3 or even 7, 12 and 57 are actually volunteers at the club. If he was then he would state his name on here to prove it
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Post by bigoknot on Sept 21, 2017 11:30:24 GMT
The offensive postings by Whopper 3 are a perfect advert for moderation a bit more like DC1. He's upsetting so many people on here and not averse to using language that you wouldn't want your kids to see, but nothing is done. He's deliberately upsetting people - obviously a WUM and Wxm supporter, but nothing is done. This is too far removed from the draconian system on DC1. Something should be done and W3 should be removed. Not Sure if you know this but dc1 no longer has Canadian Exile or Devon Blue moderating, I think the moderating is more in line with this site, But I agree this site does have more than its fair share of Trolls, perhaps every once in a while you may consider posting on DC1, there's a few who post on both forums
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Post by eyeswideopen on Sept 21, 2017 11:32:35 GMT
Just like to echo the above point Big Si has made, we are removing as many if not more posts reported by Whopper as we are receiving about him. Doesn't that sum up the Whopper problem? They post stuff simply to get a response and wind people up. When this succeeds, they then report those they've sufficiently wound up! It's defended as freedom of speech, or freedom of opinion. I'd argue that Whopper doesn't actually believe most of what they post. If you only say stuff to get a reaction, you shouldn't bleat when they react. I actually believe Whopper (and a few sums) create a negative view of what is generally an honest forum of supporters views. You can post your reaction though constructively, you don't have to react with using vitriol and name calling, its all completely unnecessary. We as a moderating team are aware he is a complete WUM, as are a few others on here, but he is entitled to an opinion and as long as he conducts his postings without personal insults, abuse, libel or using foul language he will be allowed to voice it, which in fairness he does the vast majority of the time. You then have two choices, ignore it or reply to it without using any of the above. Its really not that difficult.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Sept 21, 2017 11:41:21 GMT
Just like to echo the above point Big Si has made, we are removing as many if not more posts reported by Whopper as we are receiving about him. Doesn't that sum up the Whopper problem? They post stuff simply to get a response and wind people up. When this succeeds, they then report those they've sufficiently wound up! It's defended as freedom of speech, or freedom of opinion. I'd argue that Whopper doesn't actually believe most of what they post. If you only say stuff to get a reaction, you shouldn't bleat when they react. I actually believe Whopper (and a few sums) create a negative view of what is generally an honest forum of supporters views. How difficult is it really to just ignore him?
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Post by iandychesterfc on Sept 21, 2017 12:37:39 GMT
precisely, the person shouting in an empty room with no response will soon stop.
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Post by shango on Sept 21, 2017 14:37:17 GMT
precisely, the person shouting in an empty room with no response will soon stop. I think you're underestimating Whopper there mate
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 21, 2017 17:10:32 GMT
Doesn't that sum up the Whopper problem? They post stuff simply to get a response and wind people up. When this succeeds, they then report those they've sufficiently wound up! It's defended as freedom of speech, or freedom of opinion. I'd argue that Whopper doesn't actually believe most of what they post. If you only say stuff to get a reaction, you shouldn't bleat when they react. I actually believe Whopper (and a few sums) create a negative view of what is generally an honest forum of supporters views. How difficult is it really to just ignore him? That's exactly what I do. I don't believe the Whopper triplets should be barred. However, there is a difference between giving your opinion, and spreading manure. One is valid, and should be defended. As for the other, at best, it should be treated with the disdain it deserves.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 21, 2017 17:17:09 GMT
Doesn't that sum up the Whopper problem? They post stuff simply to get a response and wind people up. When this succeeds, they then report those they've sufficiently wound up! It's defended as freedom of speech, or freedom of opinion. I'd argue that Whopper doesn't actually believe most of what they post. If you only say stuff to get a reaction, you shouldn't bleat when they react. I actually believe Whopper (and a few sums) create a negative view of what is generally an honest forum of supporters views. You can post your reaction though constructively, you don't have to react with using vitriol and name calling, its all completely unnecessary. We as a moderating team are aware he is a complete WUM, as are a few others on here, but he is entitled to an opinion and as long as he conducts his postings without personal insults, abuse, libel or using foul language he will be allowed to voice it, which in fairness he does the vast majority of the time. You then have two choices, ignore it or reply to it without using any of the above. Its really not that difficult.
I got called a sad naive little boy is this a personal insult?
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Post by rcb on Sept 21, 2017 18:07:36 GMT
You can post your reaction though constructively, you don't have to react with using vitriol and name calling, its all completely unnecessary. We as a moderating team are aware he is a complete WUM, as are a few others on here, but he is entitled to an opinion and as long as he conducts his postings without personal insults, abuse, libel or using foul language he will be allowed to voice it, which in fairness he does the vast majority of the time. You then have two choices, ignore it or reply to it without using any of the above. Its really not that difficult.
I got called a sad naive little boy is this a personal insult? Six of your quotes below, all from one thread. Any of these a personal insult? "Low life is people like yourself" "HAHAHAHAHA you are talking out of your arse mate" "so this is bullshit." "stop spreading bullshit" "show you are talking nonsense" "Haha, unbelievable you are sticking up for that WUM. Leads me to believe maybe you're a goat too."
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 21, 2017 18:16:20 GMT
I got called a sad naive little boy is this a personal insult? Six of your quotes below, all from one thread. Any of these a personal insult? "Low life is people like yourself" "HAHAHAHAHA you are talking out of your arse mate" "so this is bullshit." "stop spreading bullshit" "show you are talking nonsense" "Haha, unbelievable you are sticking up for that WUM. Leads me to believe maybe you're a goat too." One is a personal insult and it’s just repeating what was said to me.
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Post by bonecrusher on Sept 21, 2017 18:55:10 GMT
You can post your reaction though constructively, you don't have to react with using vitriol and name calling, its all completely unnecessary. We as a moderating team are aware he is a complete WUM, as are a few others on here, but he is entitled to an opinion and as long as he conducts his postings without personal insults, abuse, libel or using foul language he will be allowed to voice it, which in fairness he does the vast majority of the time. You then have two choices, ignore it or reply to it without using any of the above. Its really not that difficult.
I got called a sad naive little boy is this a personal insult? I was labelled a fascist. Post not removed. Is that acceptable?
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