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Post by blue18 on Oct 25, 2017 7:44:40 GMT
I heard a few rumours floating about last night that Ross is going to Guiseley. Anyone know anything?
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Post by sqzl on Oct 25, 2017 7:50:53 GMT
I heard a few rumours floating about last night that Ross is going to Guiseley. Anyone know anything? Would be crazy if it happens because we're competing with them to stay up and play them In two vital Christmas games. |
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Post by agl on Oct 25, 2017 7:51:05 GMT
Five forwards on the books now, so would make sense to try to clear one out.
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 25, 2017 8:19:45 GMT
Heard the same.
Hannah is probably the highest earner, judging from a comment from JMc at a CFU meeting preseason. Maybe by some way?
He maybe unable or unwilling to be full time too. Think he lives in Rotherham. Fair bit of travelling for him.
If MB is going to bring in new players, there will need to be some casualties. Hannah going would probably allow us to bring in two players. He's also on a two year deal.
Agree that ideally you wouldn't want him joining a relegation rival, he'll probably do well at Guiseley too.
However, if he wasn't already here as a high earner, you wouldn't give him a two year deal on what we've seen so far this season, would you?
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Post by MOC on Oct 25, 2017 8:29:50 GMT
He played under Paul Cox at Barrow (albeit he was hardly a regular starter) and it’s cloeer for Hannah geographically. As said, not ideal for him to go with a side who may well be our most direct rival for survival but wouldn’t surprise me if it happens.
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Post by Jack on Oct 25, 2017 8:50:58 GMT
Would be surprised if it’s true, given that Guiseley have just stepped up to full time training and Cox hardly played him at Barrow?
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Post by Hannibal on Oct 25, 2017 8:52:42 GMT
Heard the same. Hannah is probably the highest earner, judging from a comment from JMc at a CFU meeting preseason. Maybe by some way? He maybe unable or unwilling to be full time too. Think he lives in Rotherham. Fair bit of travelling for him. If MB is going to bring in new players, there will need to be some casualties. Hannah going would probably allow us to bring in two players. He's also on a two year deal. Agree that ideally you wouldn't want him joining a relegation rival, he'll probably do well at Guiseley too. However, if he wasn't already here as a high earner, you wouldn't give him a two year deal on what we've seen so far this season, would you? I wondered how we could afford these new players but it appears that MB is a smart cookie. If we can offload someone who is on a 2-year contract and would appear to be a shadow of his former self then this is quite a coup by our brilliant manager. Very good business if true. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 25, 2017 8:55:06 GMT
Would be surprised if it’s true, given that Guiseley have just stepped up to full time training and Cox hardly played him at Barrow? Guiseley appear to be training two afternoons and two evenings each week, with Friday off. Not full time compared to a normal job. That may help players to also do something else, such as coaching badges or academy work. |
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Oct 25, 2017 9:12:45 GMT
Hope not. Reckon he and Archer could work really well together.
Rather Hannah than White and Bell.
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Post by superhans on Oct 25, 2017 9:18:47 GMT
I think he needs to leave, personally. Cares about the club, but in every game I've seen him so far this season he's unable to hold it up and bring others into play because of his size, tries to make up for it by doing it all himself - audacious shots when there's a clear pass on.
31 years old and a two year deal was madness for him, especially with how little he's played since leaving us. Wish him all the best if he is to leave, but almost certainly our highest earner, MB could bring in some real talent with that from the lower leagues as we've seen with Archer.
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Post by waggoner2 on Oct 25, 2017 9:23:16 GMT
Heard the same. Hannah is probably the highest earner, judging from a comment from JMc at a CFU meeting preseason. Maybe by some way? He maybe unable or unwilling to be full time too. Think he lives in Rotherham. Fair bit of travelling for him. If MB is going to bring in new players, there will need to be some casualties. Hannah going would probably allow us to bring in two players. He's also on a two year deal. Agree that ideally you wouldn't want him joining a relegation rival, he'll probably do well at Guiseley too. However, if he wasn't already here as a high earner, you wouldn't give him a two year deal on what we've seen so far this season, would you? I wondered how we could afford these new players but it appears that MB is a smart cookie. If we can offload someone who is on a 2-year contract and would appear to be a shadow of his former self then this is quite a coup by our brilliant manager. Very good business if true. Maybe it would be that they pay his wages with a view to taking on his contract? Maybe they would agree to take him on if he does well... Maybe!! |
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Post by mrmanero on Oct 25, 2017 9:46:21 GMT
Looked like the old Ross last night and linked up well with Archer. not fussed if he goes or not really as I think Harry White is a decent player waiting to happen. Just wish Ross would stop looking for that wonder goal which might go in 1 in a hundred attempts.
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Post by Firestick Frank on Oct 25, 2017 11:17:39 GMT
Heard a while ago that new training schedule, particularly Friday, is an issue for him.
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Post by tarvinblue on Oct 25, 2017 11:23:38 GMT
MB alluded to the fact the Hannah and Turnbull haven't trained much since they have been with us. I don't know whether that is due to managing injuries, commitment issues or a bit of both. Certainly both players, up until last night, have looked like they have barely trained all season. Hannah was much better last night and, although not brilliant, did enough to make a nuisance of himself and operated well off Archer. We have far too many strikers on the books now though and something has got to give in this area. If Ross is a big earner and moving him on frees up budget to bring in more quality elsewhere then I think we should encourage it. We've certainly got enough to manage without him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 11:32:26 GMT
Best he has played since returning last night, but a 2 year deal is crazy. MB likes to play into feet, and Hannah cannot hold the ball up.
One game Archer has played and most things stuck. I know who I would choose.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 11:36:55 GMT
Bell is on loan and hasn't shown pre season form. Verdict still out on White. Akintunde is a real talent and just needs a good run of games behind him.
Thought Hannah and Archer looked the best pairing so far this season, definitely Ross' best game since returning.
I'd like to see any issues resolved and Hannah stay but I have complete faith in Bignot and will back any decision he makes.
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Post by dmcnally on Oct 25, 2017 12:19:41 GMT
Bell is on loan and hasn't shown pre season form. Verdict still out on White. Akintunde is a real talent and just needs a good run of games behind him. Thought Hannah and Archer looked the best pairing so far this season, definitely Ross' best game since returning. I'd like to see any issues resolved and Hannah stay but I have complete faith in Bignot and will back any decision he makes. Akintunde needs a goal or two. Like Mahon, he is a good player for us without any goals or assists to back it up. |
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Post by sqzl on Oct 25, 2017 12:25:26 GMT
Just think Hannah needs a few goals and he would be back to his old self. It's crazy how attitudes change after one win. Archer had a great debut, did burn out second half a bit, but overall looks a real prospect. But it's one bloody game and people are talking like he's the answer to replacing Hannah's missing goals. Maybe he will be but I think we need to cut Hannah a bit of slack, he played well and works hard every time he's on the pitch. If he does go, good luck to him, may not work out too well for us as some may think.
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Post by billyw on Oct 25, 2017 13:44:53 GMT
Just think Hannah needs a few goals and he would be back to his old self. It's crazy how attitudes change after one win. Archer had a great debut, did burn out second half a bit, but overall looks a real prospect. But it's one bloody game and people are talking like he's the answer to replacing Hannah's missing goals. Maybe he will be but I think we need to cut Hannah a bit of slack, he played well and works hard every time he's on the pitch. If he does go, good luck to him, may not work out too well for us as some may think. Agree with all that. It would be madness to let Hannah go as he is the only proven goal scorer we've got. Apart from the loan players, White has still to convince me, Akintunde spends more time on the treatment table than the pitch and we have only seen 70 minutes of Archer. Hannah gives 100% every game and the goals will come. |
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Post by Micky Wilde on Oct 25, 2017 13:55:45 GMT
Just think Hannah needs a few goals and he would be back to his old self. It's crazy how attitudes change after one win. Archer had a great debut, did burn out second half a bit, but overall looks a real prospect. But it's one bloody game and people are talking like he's the answer to replacing Hannah's missing goals. Maybe he will be but I think we need to cut Hannah a bit of slack, he played well and works hard every time he's on the pitch. If he does go, good luck to him, may not work out too well for us as some may think. Agree with all that. It would be madness to let Hannah go as he is the only proven goal scorer we've got. Apart from the loan players, White has still to convince me, Akintunde spends more time on the treatment table than the pitch and we have only seen 70 minutes of Archer. Hannah gives 100% every game and the goals will come. I wish I had your faith. I have a lot of time for Hannah, however I just don't think the goals will come and do think the money his wages will save, would be better spent on players Bignot wants. |
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Post by sqzl on Oct 25, 2017 16:08:29 GMT
Agree with all that. It would be madness to let Hannah go as he is the only proven goal scorer we've got. Apart from the loan players, White has still to convince me, Akintunde spends more time on the treatment table than the pitch and we have only seen 70 minutes of Archer. Hannah gives 100% every game and the goals will come. I wish I had your faith. I have a lot of time for Hannah, however I just don't think the goals will come and do think the money his wages will save, would be better spent on players Bignot wants. What makes you think he's not top of the list of players that Bignot wants? He started him with 5 for strikers to choose from, hardly someone he doesn't seem to want. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Oct 25, 2017 18:19:50 GMT
Just think Hannah needs a few goals and he would be back to his old self. It's crazy how attitudes change after one win. Archer had a great debut, did burn out second half a bit, but overall looks a real prospect. But it's one bloody game and people are talking like he's the answer to replacing Hannah's missing goals. Maybe he will be but I think we need to cut Hannah a bit of slack, he played well and works hard every time he's on the pitch. If he does go, good luck to him, may not work out too well for us as some may think. Agree with all that. It would be madness to let Hannah go as he is the only proven goal scorer we've got. Apart from the loan players, White has still to convince me, Akintunde spends more time on the treatment table than the pitch and we have only seen 70 minutes of Archer. Hannah gives 100% every game and the goals will come. Yes! But in 70 minutes Archer held the ball up beyter than Hannah had in all his games combined. |
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Post by southernblue on Oct 25, 2017 18:20:24 GMT
Looked like the old Ross last night and linked up well with Archer. not fussed if he goes or not really as I think Harry White is a decent player waiting to happen. Just wish Ross would stop looking for that wonder goal which might go in 1 in a hundred attempts. I would not be happy if Ross goes to a relegation rival. I think the same about White, physical and industrious, once he gets more game time I believe he will start hitting the target. A striker in the John Murphy mould who didn't do well for us, but once he hit his stride became a goal machine. Gary Bennett was another direct striker like that too. |
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 25, 2017 18:38:56 GMT
I wish I had your faith. I have a lot of time for Hannah, however I just don't think the goals will come and do think the money his wages will save, would be better spent on players Bignot wants. What makes you think he's not top of the list of players that Bignot wants? He started him with 5 for strikers to choose from, hardly someone he doesn't seem to want. Tend to agree with these sentiments. However, IF Ross is on a fat 2 year contract, we may need to move him out for MB to get the type of squad he wants. There's a few others he may have trouble moving on to others clubs. It maybe it's either Hannah, or two or three new players in. As I said in my earlier post, there will be some casualties. Share the concerns of others over the rest of the strikers though. White hasn't looked that good at all. Surely he's better then we've seen. Aki looks really good at times, but at other times he doesn't. Not convinced he'll score many either. Both of these spend more time injured than fit. Bell and Zanzala are due to go back after Christmas. All of a sudden we could look short of goals if Ross goes. Questions are, can we afford to keep Ross? If we did, will he score goals? How old the rest of the squad feel free someone misses half of the training? |
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Post by sqzl on Oct 25, 2017 19:56:54 GMT
What makes you think he's not top of the list of players that Bignot wants? He started him with 5 for strikers to choose from, hardly someone he doesn't seem to want. Tend to agree with these sentiments. However, IF Ross is on a fat 2 year contract, we may need to move him out for MB to get the type of squad he wants. There's a few others he may have trouble moving on to others clubs. It maybe it's either Hannah, or two or three new players in. As I said in my earlier post, there will be some casualties. Share the concerns of others over the rest of the strikers though. White hasn't looked that good at all. Surely he's better then we've seen. Aki looks really good at times, but at other times he doesn't. Not convinced he'll score many either. Both of these spend more time injured than fit. Bell and Zanzala are due to go back after Christmas. All of a sudden we could look short of goals if Ross goes. Questions are, can we afford to keep Ross? If we did, will he score goals? How old the rest of the squad feel free someone misses half of the training? Yeah I take your points, if he did miss training regularly then I see no options but to get rid of him or anyone else that any commit to it. The problem is I look at our team and we literally don't have a proven goal scorer if he goes, we do have a couple of great prospects, but are there enough goals there this season alone. We have a few consistent lads in the side, Astles this season, Dawson - one game he's fantastic next he's giving the ball away in poor areas costing us, LRT - great some games and terrible others. We need everyone to play like we did for the first 44 minutes of Barrow. One HUGE player for us is Turnbull, if he plays to his capability like Barrow we do have a big player there. |
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Post by Jack on Oct 26, 2017 10:22:44 GMT
I'd be disappointed to see him leave. I've got no doubts he'll go onto score 15 goals this season when the team settles down a little bit. His start isn't dissimilar to his first time round, where it took him until about November before it really got going.
I can see the logic in us freeing up a lot of budget, but I'd be wary of letting him go.
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Post by peterkaysock on Oct 26, 2017 10:51:25 GMT
Totally agree Jack, think its only around the corner. The fellas has been getting service. think he is going to be knocking them in soon. Dont let a striker like that go. they all have lean periods. cant believe people would even consider letting a quality player like that just leave.
Bell will be going back, Gateshead want to look over what players they have. I think there will be one or 2 leaving very shortly
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Post by bogsnorkel on Oct 26, 2017 11:34:49 GMT
I would be sad to see him go if he does leave soon. Watching the highlights from Tuesday his cut inside and shot in first half didn't look like that of a striker on the decline
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Post by g1 on Oct 26, 2017 12:05:26 GMT
Guiseley just paid 10 grand for someone so he might be staying
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Post by jb on Oct 26, 2017 12:10:07 GMT
Hannah must stay. Form is temporary class is permanent. Just wish he'd shoot in the box and not from 35 yards!
Its the likes of Chappel, Davies and Joyce who should be moved on to aid the budget. Whoever sanctioned these re-signings has a lot to answer for.
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