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Post by Hannibal on Nov 9, 2017 12:55:28 GMT
It's beginning to look a mammoth task to stay in this league. Three better/good performances have yielded only 1 point. I feel that when we reach the season's halfway point at the beginning of December we need to have a point a game (23) which is looking unlikely. We now need 1.33 points per game which will mean win 1, draw 1 and lose 1 until the end of the season. I feel for Marcus because he's trying his best, but the players just aren't good enough for this league. It wouldn't surprise me if we remain ensconced in the bottom 4 he'll leave in February or March.
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Post by rcb on Nov 9, 2017 15:39:52 GMT
A very tall order has become significantly taller with the paltry points haul under the new playing management. Unfortunately the non-playing management remain wholly unapologetic in regard to the ridiculous maintenance of McCarthy for so long. In my opinion I feel that the horse has long since bolted and the stable door needs replacing anyway. Love to be proved wrong though. Pretty obvious Maguire has narcissistic tendencies which will ultimately prove to be detrimental to the club. Unfortunately he has sufficient believers and protectors who are all too ready to shout down his critics. Many of these also hail Ryan Astles in a Godlike manner. He remains overweight, one paced, and subject to costly basic mistakes. The most basic of instructions at schoolboy level is to insist defenders stay "goal side" at corners and free kicks. He didn't do this last night and we lost the match as the consequence.
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Post by chesterken on Nov 9, 2017 16:00:34 GMT
We just need to have a little run 3 or 4 wins doesn’t have to be next week , we will have winnable games comming up if we manage that we are suddenly into mid table. Don’t see the need to panic as yet we can turn it round.
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Post by agl on Nov 9, 2017 16:01:43 GMT
It's beginning to look a mammoth task to stay in this league. Three better/good performances have yielded only 1 point. I feel that when we reach the season's halfway point at the beginning of December we need to have a point a game (23) which is looking unlikely. We now need 1.33 points per game which will mean win 1, draw 1 and lose 1 until the end of the season. I feel for Marcus because he's trying his best, but the players just aren't good enough for this league. It wouldn't surprise me if we remain ensconced in the bottom 4 he'll leave in February or March. I do fear the worst now. One point from the last three games and we have the look of a relegation side. Ultimately it's the lack of goals that will send us down unless one of the forwards can go on a scoring run. We don't seem capable of nicking 1-0s and playing well and losing counts for nothing. Also think it's time to stop harping on about McCarthy all the time and focus on the now - why for example is Kingsley James being played on the right when he is better scrapping in the middle? Chappell is much maligned but I'd also like to see him on the bench to offer something different in the last part of the game. We look a bit one dimensional and ponderous. I've given up on Mahon. For once we need a decent set of results over Christmas/New Year.
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Post by superman on Nov 9, 2017 17:01:37 GMT
Last four games league games have resulted in half decent performances but only yielded 4 points, if results don't improve rapidly I fear players will lose heart and performances and support will drop away again. Whilst it is still not too late I fear the worst. Everyone needs a the boost of a couple of back to back wins before we get cut adrift, lose the next two and we will be so far in the do do that I see no way back. Sorry to be pessimistic but the whiff of relegation is starting to linger.
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Post by Captain Duff on Nov 9, 2017 17:11:53 GMT
Jeez what is it about the glass half full mentality of some of our fans, pass me the mogadon! The fact is we have a great manager who has shown that he knows how to get the best out of a very limited squad, but that also that he can bring in some very good players at very little cost. It isn't ideal having to rely on the loan market, but we'll be fine. Considering we had no defenders avaailble on the bench last night and then one injured after 20 mins to only let in one goal was a minor miracle in itself.
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Post by bonecrusher on Nov 9, 2017 17:22:44 GMT
To be honest I am now of the opinion that we will go down. There just doesn't seem to be any sign of the wins that we need to get a run going. However I won't be blaming Bignot, or calling for his sacking. McCarthy left an appallingly imbalanced squad behind him and I would give Marcus a good go at getting us out of the CN. Hope I'm wrong on that though and we can pick up some results.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 9, 2017 17:25:06 GMT
Jesus Christ. There is over half the season remaining, One point, last night would have taken us out of the relegation zone and if Wrexham, are top. it says a lot about the quality of the teams, in this league. Its really simple. We need 4 teams to be worse than us and to beat the teams around us.
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Post by bonecrusher on Nov 9, 2017 17:26:11 GMT
Just stating an opinion. I'm behind the blues at every match willing them to get out of it.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 9, 2017 21:45:22 GMT
Just stating an opinion. I'm behind the blues at every match willing them to get out of it. Me too ... I've just booked B & B in Ilford for our game at Leyton Orient. That is a game that we should really be looking to win.
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Post by sirfred on Nov 9, 2017 22:13:47 GMT
I have supported Chester for many years and honestly believe we can and will stay up performances are improving and we have time to do it with a Manager who is aware of our shortcomings and doing positive things to rectify these - I really have faith in his ability
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Post by whopper3 on Nov 9, 2017 22:17:37 GMT
If Bignot stays we are down. It is as simple as that.
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Post by dimps1 on Nov 9, 2017 22:25:49 GMT
As a wxm fan . After last night I think you will be fine . You've got a great new manager who is working on a tight budget . Give home time and after what I saw last time you will stay up easily . You were unlucky to lose last night but sometimes that happens but to blame your new manager is madness . Good luck .
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 10, 2017 20:00:44 GMT
Jesus this thread is embarrassing. It’s like we’re rock bottom 22 points from safety with two months left or something. Are we? No, we’re one win from staying up and going further up the league and it’s not even December yet..
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Post by Derry Blue on Nov 10, 2017 21:10:28 GMT
Jesus Christ. There is over half the season remaining, One point, last night would have taken us out of the relegation zone and if Wrexham, are top. it says a lot about the quality of the teams, in this league. Its really simple. We need 4 teams to be worse than us and to beat the teams around us. Big ask at the moment.
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Post by noddy on Nov 11, 2017 2:56:34 GMT
Jesus Christ. There is over half the season remaining, One point, last night would have taken us out of the relegation zone and if Wrexham, are top. it says a lot about the quality of the teams, in this league. Its really simple. We need 4 teams to be worse than us and to beat the teams around us. Big ask at the moment. Are we that bad do you think? Yes we do have weaknesses, lack of defensive cover, an offensive central midfielder and without Mahon any natural width but in November should it be a big ask? The improvement under Bignot has been significant even if on paper we haven't picked up the points we deserved. I'm encouraged enough to think it shouldn't be a big ask to stay up this year in a league that's much of a muchness. Take more of our opportunities in front of goal and cut out the individual mistakes and we will be fine. I do think its a huge blow to lose our loan fullback with his hamstring injury, the guy is quality and within our squad we don't have an adequate replacement, Kingsley isn't a fullback or wingback. The Ryan Astles debate also intrigues me and i can see it from both sides of the fence, yes weightwise it looks to me as if he's carrying excess weight, whether that's down to his diet or his off the field habits i dont know but for a 23 year old training 4 days a week it has to be a concern. On the plus side the guy loves the club, you can never doubt his commitment and he would run through a brick wall for the cause. Let's try and keep positive, I'm no "happy clapper" but let's see what the situation is like after the 2 away games at Bromley and Leyton Orient.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 11, 2017 7:21:25 GMT
Jesus this thread is embarrassing. It’s like we’re rock bottom 22 points from safety with two months left or something. Are we? No, we’re one win from staying up and going further up the league and it’s not even December yet.. You don't sound like you know much about football. As much as we've improved under MB we're still only picking up a point a game, which won't keep us up. I pointed out before Wrexham game that a defensive error or poor referee and we'll lose. We had both. Most of our goals against have been from errors and there doesn't seem any improvement in that area. .
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Post by Derry Blue on Nov 11, 2017 8:45:21 GMT
Jesus this thread is embarrassing. It’s like we’re rock bottom 22 points from safety with two months left or something. Are we? No, we’re one win from staying up and going further up the league and it’s not even December yet.. You don't sound like you know much about football. As much as we've improved under MB we're still only picking up a point a game, which won't keep us up. I pointed out before Wrexham game that a defensive error or poor referee and we'll lose. We had both. Most of our goals against have been from errors and there doesn't seem any improvement in that area. . I agree with you Hannibal. We have improved and there's no one happier than me that JM is gone, but we aren't picking up enough points. There's no point in us consoling ourselves that we were the better team, the ref was poor, it was just one mistake. None of that will matter at the end of the season. The only thing at will save us is points! And, at the moment, we're not accumulating enough.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Nov 11, 2017 8:59:22 GMT
Jesus this thread is embarrassing. It’s like we’re rock bottom 22 points from safety with two months left or something. Are we? No, we’re one win from staying up and going further up the league and it’s not even December yet.. Gosh, I didn’t realise that if we beat Bromley next week we will stay up 😳.
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Post by Derry Blue on Nov 11, 2017 12:04:30 GMT
Jesus this thread is embarrassing. It’s like we’re rock bottom 22 points from safety with two months left or something. Are we? No, we’re one win from staying up and going further up the league and it’s not even December yet.. Gosh, I didn’t realise that if we beat Bromley next week we will stay up 😳.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 11, 2017 12:10:30 GMT
Jesus this thread is embarrassing. It’s like we’re rock bottom 22 points from safety with two months left or something. Are we? No, we’re one win from staying up and going further up the league and it’s not even December yet.. Gosh, I didn’t realise that if we beat Bromley next week we will stay up 😳. Well done Rio. McNally reminds me of another poster on here 2 seasons ago when we were destined to go down and a poster was adamant that we would stay up. We only stayed up because Burr was sacked and we won our last 3 games one of which was against a Grimsby side who were already in play-offs, resting players and according to my mate Dragonslayer should have been 4-0 up at half-time. The gods smiled on us that day and we won that game 2-1 and stayed up. If and it's a big if we can cut out the errors we're in with a fighting chance, but when you've got the likes of Halls and McCombe (Astles is free from criticism) it's probably going to be too much to ask unless we can bring in a solid defensive loanee.
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Post by sirfred on Nov 11, 2017 22:46:11 GMT
We will stay up end of - Because we have appointed thank goodness the correct Manager
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Post by imadeva on Nov 11, 2017 23:04:16 GMT
We will stay up end of - Because we have appointed thank goodness the correct Manager Wish I’d got your confidence.what as Bignot really done.He has had success with the ladies team,got a side up from the national north,done nothing in this league,and got found out in league 2.Im praying your right but we’ll see.
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Post by sirfred on Nov 12, 2017 8:29:33 GMT
We will stay up end of - Because we have appointed thank goodness the correct Manager Wish I’d got your confidence.what as Bignot really done.He has had success with the ladies team,got a side up from the national north,done nothing in this league,and got found out in league 2.Im praying your right but we’ll see. When you say got found out in League 2 what do you mean ? They were 12th when they sacked him and had just beaten Blackpool away - they haven't progressed since and the development of Omar Bogel and reaped dividends for them
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Post by massivefloodlights on Nov 12, 2017 9:17:55 GMT
a miserable run of results up until the new year and fans will be calling for his head. That’s how it works. Itchy feet and all that. Has the CFC board got the balls to back their man?
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Post by Lobster on Nov 12, 2017 9:34:08 GMT
a miserable run of results up until the new year and fans will be calling for his head. That’s how it works. Itchy feet and all that. Has the CFC board got the balls to back their man? I honestly don't think we would be calling for his head, with the exception of Whopper. Most of us are in the mindset that McCarthy has made his job very tough by wasting the budget and starting poorly, and that it may be too much for him to do to keep us up.
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Post by imadeva on Nov 12, 2017 10:54:10 GMT
Wish I’d got your confidence.what as Bignot really done.He has had success with the ladies team,got a side up from the national north,done nothing in this league,and got found out in league 2.Im praying your right but we’ll see. When you say got found out in League 2 what do you mean ? They were 12th when they sacked him and had just beaten Blackpool away - they haven't progressed since and the development of Omar Bogel and reaped dividends for them Well he averaged a point a game exactly what he averaging for us ,hardly breathtaking and was sacked because most of the players were refusing to sign new contracts because of him.like I’ve said before it’s all about him and his ego,why would he come here and say I’ve got things to prove and put right,if he had done a good job at Grimsby.Football is a results business and he’s not getting the results ( 2 wins)please don’t go on about how we’re improving because we’re not,we are in the relegation spot simple.yes you will go on about how jm left him in this trouble.Well I can assure you teams have been left in a worse position then us a the new manager comes in and wins 5 on the bounce so let’s not go down that route,I never wanted him in the first place and never will.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Nov 12, 2017 11:00:00 GMT
When you say got found out in League 2 what do you mean ? They were 12th when they sacked him and had just beaten Blackpool away - they haven't progressed since and the development of Omar Bogel and reaped dividends for them Well he averaged a point a game exactly what he averaging for us ,hardly breathtaking and was sacked because most of the players were refusing to sign new contracts because of him.like I’ve said before it’s all about him and his ego,why would he come here and say I’ve got things to prove and put right,if he had done a good job at Grimsby.Football is a results business and he’s not getting the results ( 2 wins)please don’t go on about how we’re improving because we’re not,we are in the relegation spot simple.yes you will go on about how jm left him in this trouble.Well I can assure you teams have been left in a worse position then us a the new manager comes in and wins 5 on the bounce so let’s not go down that route,I never wanted him in the first place and never will. Your username is tremendously accurate.
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Post by imadeva on Nov 12, 2017 11:01:17 GMT
Well he averaged a point a game exactly what he averaging for us ,hardly breathtaking and was sacked because most of the players were refusing to sign new contracts because of him.like I’ve said before it’s all about him and his ego,why would he come here and say I’ve got things to prove and put right,if he had done a good job at Grimsby.Football is a results business and he’s not getting the results ( 2 wins)please don’t go on about how we’re improving because we’re not,we are in the relegation spot simple.yes you will go on about how jm left him in this trouble.Well I can assure you teams have been left in a worse position then us a the new manager comes in and wins 5 on the bounce so let’s not go down that route,I never wanted him in the first place and never will. Your username is tremendously accurate. Thank you
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Post by dmcnally on Nov 12, 2017 11:43:11 GMT
When you say got found out in League 2 what do you mean ? They were 12th when they sacked him and had just beaten Blackpool away - they haven't progressed since and the development of Omar Bogel and reaped dividends for them Well he averaged a point a game exactly what he averaging for us ,hardly breathtaking and was sacked because most of the players were refusing to sign new contracts because of him.like I’ve said before it’s all about him and his ego,why would he come here and say I’ve got things to prove and put right,if he had done a good job at Grimsby.Football is a results business and he’s not getting the results ( 2 wins)please don’t go on about how we’re improving because we’re not,we are in the relegation spot simple.yes you will go on about how jm left him in this trouble.Well I can assure you teams have been left in a worse position then us a the new manager comes in and wins 5 on the bounce so let’s not go down that route,I never wanted him in the first place and never will. What if we finish mid table and next season go on a play off push ? Will you be saying you don’t want him then ? To say we haven’t improved is just plain deluded.
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