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Jul 6, 2022 9:46:12 GMT
Post by iandychesterfc on Jul 6, 2022 9:46:12 GMT
Hi peeps interesting debate on French TV tonight about the effects of Brexit on the French economy, and the one million or so French citizens living and working in the London area (they have their own representative in French government) Some of the main points I took from it are to do with healthcare and the comparisons made to French healthcare and the NHS, with president Macron ensuring the public that he would never claim to be pumping 15 billion euros of extra money into something after having spent 10 years underfunding the same scheme to the tune of hundreds of billions and championing how great that “sticking plaster”was. France did consider what impact a leave vote would mean, and had lots in place to combat any impact, whilst, from what I can see there was no UK exit strategy. These trade agreements with new partners around the world are not the magic bullets promised. The majority of questions asked got simple yes, no, or I don’t have enough information to answer in depth replies, as opposed to long diatribes and deflection of the question at all costs to avoid actually giving any sort of coherent reply. My neighbours often ask if I’m still proud to be British, well yes, but even prouder to be a European citizen. I cringe every time I catch Johnson and his cronies on TV, you couldn’t get any further away from him being a statesman, and certainly here has made the UK the laughing stock of Europe. How on earth can a multi millionaire like Sunak possibly claim to have empathy with families falling into fuel poverty, laughable. it’s a long way back in history when it was Empire, but the Empire mentality is still prevalent and doing untold damage to the British economy, the people and its reputation around the world. Are there any calls to actually have a referendum to rejoin Europe? Or are they all to bloody-minded to consider it? This is because the whole point of the referendum was the same as the Scottish referendum, to put the question to bed. There was absolutely no consideration that there was sufficient votes for this level of self-harm. It was a critical mis-caluculation which led to a campaign that was caught on the hop by Vote Leave and hence the mad scramble around WW3 etc rather than critical cost-benefit type campaigning to which Leave had no answer. So Cameron lost the vote and fucked off, which like Blair and the war now completely overshadows his premiership. We were then left with Theresa May who desperately tried a fudge only for Corbyn to play politics and so is completely culpable for Boris 80-seat majority and this mess. It was nothing to do with 'moderate left' and everything to do with Corbyn scoring 'victories' voting down a soft brexit to the extend TM left and he enabled a hard-right gvmt. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 6, 2022 21:43:24 GMT
Starmer's support for the Johnson Tory Brexit is like chaining yourself to the railings of the Titanic.
Clueless strategy.
I have never seen a more inept oppositon in my lifetime.
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Jul 6, 2022 21:44:52 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 6, 2022 21:44:52 GMT
Mick Lynch and Dave Ward showing that wetwipe up big time.
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Jul 7, 2022 16:16:50 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jul 7, 2022 16:16:50 GMT
Energy price cap and nationalisation stances…
Imagine making centrist/soft-right Emmanuel Macron look like Arthur Scargill. Quite a feat by wetwipe Starmer, that.
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Jul 7, 2022 22:03:00 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 7, 2022 22:03:00 GMT
Starmers ,'make Brexit work' hasn't aged very well has it?
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Jul 24, 2022 21:26:17 GMT
Post by avfo on Jul 24, 2022 21:26:17 GMT
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Aug 17, 2022 6:32:20 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Aug 17, 2022 6:32:20 GMT
“The cost of living.”
How fucking bleak and deathly that phrase is when you unpack it. Capitalism is a cancer.
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Aug 17, 2022 14:23:13 GMT
Post by Lobster on Aug 17, 2022 14:23:13 GMT
“The cost of living.” How fucking bleak and deathly that phrase is when you unpack it. Capitalism is a cancer. I bet there's a death metal band called The Cost of Living.
It's always stuck with me when Phillip Hammond a few years ago denied that there were people living in poverty in Britain, saying they were just "struggling with the cost of living". What does he think poverty is if it's not being unable to afford to live?
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Aug 21, 2022 23:31:42 GMT
Post by avfo on Aug 21, 2022 23:31:42 GMT
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Aug 28, 2022 0:26:36 GMT
Post by avfo on Aug 28, 2022 0:26:36 GMT
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Aug 29, 2022 18:05:59 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Aug 29, 2022 18:05:59 GMT
Quite disturbing watching his mental breakdown these past few years. Wouldn’t be surprised if he was outed as a Tory voter next. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Sept 1, 2022 5:01:22 GMT
Eu threat of direct intervention in the energy market causes the price of oil to drop.
What a gigantic mistake , it was to leave the EU, whereby this cesspit of an island is completely isolated and at the mercy of the energy companies.
Raw sewage lapping against our shores is the most potent symbol of Brexit.
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Post by flanno7hi on Sept 29, 2022 22:08:58 GMT
What the fuck is wrong with people in this country. Anyone else would be out rioting in the street, or at least refusing to pay extortionate bills en masse.
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Oct 15, 2022 17:31:27 GMT
Post by avfo on Oct 15, 2022 17:31:27 GMT
Daily Telegraph 2016 - 'Remainers also claim we would lose influence in the world and deride those wanting to leave as Little Englanders. Yet the opposite is the case: it is the EU which is insular and self-regarding, hemmed in by the narrow confines of dreary summits and endless treaty-making. Britain, by contrast, has always been a global player, with its connections to the Commonwealth, the UN and Nato, and will be again.' www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/06/20/vote-leave-to-benefit-from-a-world-of-opportunity/Daily Telegraph 2022 - 'Downbeat predictions by the Treasury and others on the economic consequences of leaving the EU, contemptuously dismissed at the time by Brexit campaigners as "Project Fear", have been on a long fuse, but they have turned out to be overwhelmingly correct, and if anything have underestimated both the calamitous loss of international standing and the scale of the damage that six years of policy confusion and ineptitude has imposed on the country.' www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/10/15/project-fear-right-along/' |
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Nov 21, 2022 17:46:54 GMT
Post by avfo on Nov 21, 2022 17:46:54 GMT
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Dec 28, 2022 11:27:33 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 28, 2022 11:27:33 GMT
On the 31st of December 'The Brexit Freedoms Bill' will become law in the UK removing the right to paid holiday, equal pay, as well as the right to paid maternity leave, and various health and safety laws. All this to appease a bunch of old racists.
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Dec 28, 2022 13:16:56 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Dec 28, 2022 13:16:56 GMT
Horrific
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 28, 2022 17:31:11 GMT
On the 31st of December 'The Brexit Freedoms Bill' will become law in the UK removing the right to paid holiday, equal pay, as well as the right to paid maternity leave, and various health and safety laws. All this to appease a bunch of old racists. This was always what Brexit was about. Has Starmer joined the ERG , with his 'make Brexit work' bollocks, |
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Post by Ian H Block on Dec 29, 2022 8:27:55 GMT
Starmer is a lost cause I’m afraid.
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Jan 21, 2023 20:18:21 GMT
Post by 1paulcarden on Jan 21, 2023 20:18:21 GMT
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Jan 22, 2023 0:33:44 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 22, 2023 0:33:44 GMT
Labour peddling the same “more privatisation” line as the Tories though so what you gonna do? There’s not a Rizla paper between the three usual parties, we need civil disobedience, mass protests and general strikes to really enforce change.
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Jan 24, 2023 17:13:37 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jan 24, 2023 17:13:37 GMT
A vote for Starmer’s Labour may be a vote against the Tories but it’s still a vote for the continuation of conservativism, capitalism, cronyism and, yes, corruption.
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Jan 31, 2023 7:49:03 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 31, 2023 7:49:03 GMT
I see the IMF are predicting that the U.K. economy will fare worse than any other G7 country in 2023 and even worse than Russia’s. Can any of the Tory boys on here tell me who or what is to blame for this; is it the ‘Woke’, Remoaners, brown people in rubber dinghies, Johnny Foreigner, the Labour Government of 13 years ago, Transexuals or Trades Unions?
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Jan 31, 2023 12:27:32 GMT
Post by Lobster on Jan 31, 2023 12:27:32 GMT
Jeremy Hunt: "[These figures] confirm we are not immune to the pressures hitting nearly all advanced economies."
Why do they use stupid language like this? They're talking as though everyone else is doing worse than us and we just need to be a little bit careful.
We're performing CONSIDERABLY WORSE than other advanced economies! Explain why!
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Jan 31, 2023 12:53:30 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 31, 2023 12:53:30 GMT
Jeremy Hunt: "[These figures] confirm we are not immune to the pressures hitting nearly all advanced economies."Why do they use stupid language like this? They're talking as though everyone else is doing worse than us and we just need to be a little bit careful. We're performing CONSIDERABLY WORSE than other advanced economies! Explain why! We’ve managed to sanction ourselves more effectively than we have the Russians. Quite an achievement. |
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Feb 3, 2023 18:45:03 GMT
Post by Mean Machine on Feb 3, 2023 18:45:03 GMT
Jeremy Hunt: "[These figures] confirm we are not immune to the pressures hitting nearly all advanced economies."Why do they use stupid language like this? They're talking as though everyone else is doing worse than us and we just need to be a little bit careful. We're performing CONSIDERABLY WORSE than other advanced economies! Explain why! FTSE 100 Closes at a record high today, 3-2-2023 Shell posts posts record profits this week Explain why ! |
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Feb 3, 2023 19:43:21 GMT
Post by Lobster on Feb 3, 2023 19:43:21 GMT
Jeremy Hunt: "[These figures] confirm we are not immune to the pressures hitting nearly all advanced economies."Why do they use stupid language like this? They're talking as though everyone else is doing worse than us and we just need to be a little bit careful. We're performing CONSIDERABLY WORSE than other advanced economies! Explain why! FTSE 100 Closes at a record high today, 3-2-2023 Shell posts posts record profits this week Explain why ! Both those examples are hardly relevant to the struggles of ordinary people. Can't Shell put some of those record profits into keeping energy prices lower? Apologies if you're being sarcastic. I'm honestly not sure. |
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Post by Mean Machine on Feb 3, 2023 20:36:18 GMT
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Feb 3, 2023 22:23:07 GMT
Post by Lobster on Feb 3, 2023 22:23:07 GMT
You can bring up isolated cases of damage limitation, but all evidence is that we're struggling. It's not my job to explain it anyway. My point is about politicians who obfuscate the truth rather than take responsibility. |
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Post by thestanchion on Feb 4, 2023 13:43:34 GMT
Well this is good news for jobs and the environment. However, this thread is about Brexit and this initiative has not resulted from leaving the single market, it has happened despite it. The fact that it is now so difficult to export a slice of ham to our neighbours in France, and that post Brexit trade deals with the likes of the Christmas Islands were heralded as our new freedom, merely demonstrates that it was all a big mistake at best, or more likely a big con. |
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