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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 27, 2017 17:14:51 GMT
20 (?) games left to play and we’ve heard nothing about decisive action! We’re in the Conference rightly, we should not simply sit back and resign ourselves to relegation. What we have now obviously isn’t working, we shouldn’t just give up, it’s the Last Chance Saloon and we need the Board / Directors / whoever TO DO SOMETHING!
This league is not the challenge that people believe it is. Hate to say it but look how far our rivals have got by having an organised, strong defence. WE CAN STAY UP if we stop giving up, do what’s required, which, I’m sorry, is admit the mistake of appointing Maguire’s Love child, move Bignot on, the compensation is not irrelevant but 1 derby next season should cover it, and GET BARROW IN!
He is experienced, knows the Conference not least with his Fylde work and has loads of contacts in the North West for getting players in “as a favour” and has the know how about making a team hard to beat. We dont have to tolerate those players not good enough, Barrow can wheel and deal to alter the personnel without costing shed loads of money. Also he is experienced...........he kept Wigan in the old Div 4 years ago when all was lost.
His reputation wil not be impacted by his, people think we are relegated already. In fact by accepting the challenge, if persuaded, respect for him will be sky high and he may even put a few back on the gate - which will pay his own salary! Mr MaGuire may have to go as well though, he and Bignot are a formidable partnership, that’s why he came over to us at Halifax to try and defend him. As well as there being folk who are better than Bignot, there’s also a few who are better than Mr MaGuire..........
The season simply cannot just be allowed to descend into complete chaos and acrimony, that damage will take years to resolve, if ever.
Lets look forward, give us fans something to focus on and at least try to move forward. Please. Phone Mr Barrow now.
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Post by tarvinblue on Dec 27, 2017 17:19:05 GMT
This is the same pattern that's continued for the last 9 months. Appalling performance is greeted by mass outrage across large proportions of the support, the board stay silent and we move on to the next game. We can't be far off Mark Maguire being rolled out for another 15 minute YouTube 'talking frank' interview...
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Post by tarvinblue on Dec 27, 2017 17:24:10 GMT
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 27, 2017 17:33:41 GMT
He’s way out of line! When did it become his job to ensure the manager does his job and the players and fans do theirs? I thought he was responsible for the commercial aspects of the club. When did he become responsible for the playing side as well. Ive been undecided about MM. I’m not know, megalomaniac, get rid now!
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Post by tarvinblue on Dec 27, 2017 17:35:18 GMT
He’s way out of line! When did it become his job to ensure the manager does his job and the players and fans do theirs? I thought he was responsible for the commercial aspects of the club. When did he become responsible for the playing side as well. Ive been undecided about MM. I’m not know, megalomaniac, get rid now! If anyone was wondering who runs the football club now, they need to look no further than this article. If he has got that much power, then all these people defending him as 'just the commercial director' need to take a long, hard look at themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 17:37:45 GMT
Uncanny isn't it? It takes the real possibility of a peasant's revolt for a few words from the glorious leader to attempt to appease the great unwashed. Problem is, I don't think it washes any more with many people - very similar to the players' "we're hurting" etc We've heard it time and time again; so much so that what little impact it may have had evaporated a long time ago As a fan, I'm just exhausted by the whole sorry saga
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Post by Al on Dec 27, 2017 17:42:07 GMT
He’s way out of line! When did it become his job to ensure the manager does his job and the players and fans do theirs? I thought he was responsible for the commercial aspects of the club. When did he become responsible for the playing side as well. Ive been undecided about MM. I’m not know, megalomaniac, get rid now! To be fair it was all included in the job description when he came to the club. Responsible for all aspects of the club.
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Post by sirfred on Dec 27, 2017 17:51:11 GMT
Oh noooooooo he has used the dreaded "Great Escape" now we are doomed
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 27, 2017 17:52:48 GMT
He’s way out of line! When did it become his job to ensure the manager does his job and the players and fans do theirs? I thought he was responsible for the commercial aspects of the club. When did he become responsible for the playing side as well. Ive been undecided about MM. I’m not know, megalomaniac, get rid now! To be fair it was all included in the job description when he came to the club. Responsible for all aspects of the club. Appreciate the point, but if that’s the case, even more reason to sack him. This is the lowest the club has been since the last criminal was in charge. If I was as successful as him in my job I’d have found myself down the road with a big bruise on my arse ages ago.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 17:55:00 GMT
Oh noooooooo he has used the dreaded "Great Escape" now we are doomed Another quote from the great man's interview: "Nobody wants to hear that this or that is in the pipeline, but I’m striving to give the manager more resources so he can do more on the football side."
You really couldn't make it up!
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Post by Al on Dec 27, 2017 17:58:33 GMT
To be fair it was all included in the job description when he came to the club. Responsible for all aspects of the club. Appreciate the point, but if that’s the case, even more reason to sack him. This is the lowest the club has been since the last criminal was in charge. If I was as successful as him in my job I’d have found myself down the road with a big bruise on my arse ages ago. But then to be fair to the bloke, it's one hell of a job for one person. Probably too much of a job. This is where the board should step up and help, or look to organise various support groups using our volunteers or look for new volunteers to help out.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 27, 2017 18:01:46 GMT
Oh noooooooo he has used the dreaded "Great Escape" now we are doomed Another quote from the great man's interview: "Nobody wants to hear that this or that is in the pipeline, but I’m striving to give the manager more resources so he can do more on the football side."
You really couldn't make it up!This is unbelievable. Definitely time to give the fans what they want. P45s for Maguire and his Love Child. I didn’t believe it when I was told the “club” had made their minds up to appoint Bignot before the interviews, I believe that certainly now with this Billy Bigballs in charge. He’s playing with our club, Stockport fans were right after all. We, the fans, can see how bad things are, we fund the club and he’s telling US how to support the club. Well, I’m livid, not going again unless there is a big change! Bignot and the “Messiah Maguire” need to get gone. Up yours Maguire, it’s Chester FC not Maguire FC.
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Post by Al on Dec 27, 2017 18:13:15 GMT
Another quote from the great man's interview: "Nobody wants to hear that this or that is in the pipeline, but I’m striving to give the manager more resources so he can do more on the football side."
You really couldn't make it up!This is unbelievable. Definitely time to give the fans what they want. P45s for Maguire and his Love Child. I didn’t believe it when I was told the “club” had made their minds up to appoint Bignot before the interviews, I believe that certainly now with this Billy Bigballs in charge. He’s playing with our club, Stockport fans were right after all. We, the fans, can see how bad things are, we fund the club and he’s telling US how to support the club. Well, I’m livid, not going again unless there is a big change! Bignot and the “Messiah Maguire” need to get gone. Up yours Maguire, it’s Chester FC not Maguire FC. You're just looking for a scapegoat now. I've told you what the score is, you want to point all thee blame at the both of them then that's up to you. I hope more level headed supporters amongst us realise what the real problem is, and I don't think it's Maguire at the heart of it all. He's the only one brave enough to stick his head out the trenches, the rest of those miserable cowards on the Ops and CFU Boards seem only too happy to let him do it as well. Spineless muppets
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Post by paulcrossleyshair on Dec 27, 2017 18:15:12 GMT
The biggest thing to stand out to me in that article that waves a massive red flag are the amount of times he uses the word "I"
As if he is the only one doing anything or capable to do anything.
No mention of the Board, who he should be reporting into, and/or what they are doing.
The Board are coming across more and more as Spineless and Impotent.
In our current position the Board need to be making him redundant NOW, we sure as hell won't be able to afford to keep him on in the Conference North so let's save 6 months wages now.
Tony Allen is another to go, we had a very successful volunteer doing that role previously if I remember correctly.
Save money now to go towards our survival for next season.
The majority of the Board need to go too. There are a tiny handful of good people there but far too many egotists, passengers and CV enhancers not pulling their weight.
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Post by Al on Dec 27, 2017 18:21:58 GMT
The biggest thing to stand out to me in that article that waves a massive red flag are the amount of times he uses the word "I" As if he is the only one doing anything or capable to do anything. No mention of the Board, who he should be reporting into, and/or what they are doing. The Board are coming across more and more as Spineless and Impotent. In our current position the Board need to be making him redundant NOW, we sure as hell won't be able to afford to keep him on in the Conference North so let's save 6 months wages now. Tony Allen is another to go, we had a very successful volunteer doing that role previously if I remember correctly. Save money now to go towards our survival for next season. The majority of the Board need to go too. There are a tiny handful of good people there but far too many egotists, passengers and CV enhancers not pulling their weight. Tony Allan should never have been appointed in the first place. Maguire at least is supposedly launching this, 100club next month as well as the deal with stagecoach. Both could bring in significant money into the club so Maguire needs to at least see those through. If they don't bring money in then his position should be reviewed or at least giving a performance warning when it comes to appraisal time, if he has an appraisal that is.. The boards are my concern at the moment
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 27, 2017 18:30:56 GMT
This is unbelievable. Definitely time to give the fans what they want. P45s for Maguire and his Love Child. I didn’t believe it when I was told the “club” had made their minds up to appoint Bignot before the interviews, I believe that certainly now with this Billy Bigballs in charge. He’s playing with our club, Stockport fans were right after all. We, the fans, can see how bad things are, we fund the club and he’s telling US how to support the club. Well, I’m livid, not going again unless there is a big change! Bignot and the “Messiah Maguire” need to get gone. Up yours Maguire, it’s Chester FC not Maguire FC. You're just looking for a scapegoat now. I've told you what the score is, you want to point all thee blame at the both of them then that's up to you. I hope more level headed supporters amongst us realise what the real problem is, and I don't think it's Maguire at the heart of it all. He's the only one brave enough to stick his head out the trenches, the rest of those miserable cowards on the Ops and CFU Boards seem only too happy to let him do it as well. Spineless muppets I think MaGuire is very much at the heart of it all. Especially having read his sermon in the Chronicle. The Ops Board are, I assume volunteers so I hesitate to criticise them whether right or wrong. MaGuire is very well paid for his work, he obviously isn’t succeeding so should go. As is Bignot who also needs to go or be placed on Gardening Leave, whichever. The Ops Board, whoever they are, need to face the challenge and move the business forward and their paid employees are obstructing that. Time to replace Messiah and Bignot, give the business a chance. You don’t go from a supermarket to a corner shop without at least trying to sort things out!
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Post by Al on Dec 27, 2017 18:40:06 GMT
You're just looking for a scapegoat now. I've told you what the score is, you want to point all thee blame at the both of them then that's up to you. I hope more level headed supporters amongst us realise what the real problem is, and I don't think it's Maguire at the heart of it all. He's the only one brave enough to stick his head out the trenches, the rest of those miserable cowards on the Ops and CFU Boards seem only too happy to let him do it as well. Spineless muppets I think MaGuire is very much at the heart of it all. Especially having read his sermon in the Chronicle. The Ops Board are, I assume volunteers so I hesitate to criticise them whether right or wrong. MaGuire is very well paid for his work, he obviously isn’t succeeding so should go. As is Bignot who also needs to go or be placed on Gardening Leave, whichever. The Ops Board, whoever they are, need to face the challenge and move the business forward and their paid employees are obstructing that. Time to replace Messiah and Bignot, give the business a chance. You don’t go from a supermarket to a corner shop without at least trying to sort things out! Just because they're volunteers does not make them immune to criticism. That is NOT healthy in the slightest and only allows those who ARE taking the piss to hide and get away with it. You can bet there's one or two of those on the board who are secretly relieved that Maguire is taking all the flak for this, keeps it away from them..
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Post by seal73 on Dec 27, 2017 18:44:16 GMT
Was hoping to hear a statement from the board to be honest but once again it looks like they’re hiding behind Maguire.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 27, 2017 18:47:25 GMT
I think MaGuire is very much at the heart of it all. Especially having read his sermon in the Chronicle. The Ops Board are, I assume volunteers so I hesitate to criticise them whether right or wrong. MaGuire is very well paid for his work, he obviously isn’t succeeding so should go. As is Bignot who also needs to go or be placed on Gardening Leave, whichever. The Ops Board, whoever they are, need to face the challenge and move the business forward and their paid employees are obstructing that. Time to replace Messiah and Bignot, give the business a chance. You don’t go from a supermarket to a corner shop without at least trying to sort things out! Just because they're volunteers does not make them immune to criticism. That is NOT healthy in the slightest and only allows those who ARE taking the piss to hide and get away with it. You can bet there's one or two of those on the board who are secretly relieved that Maguire is taking all the flak for this, keeps it away from them.. I agree with you. But the way forward is? Not with these two stealing a wage?
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Post by Al on Dec 27, 2017 18:49:45 GMT
Just because they're volunteers does not make them immune to criticism. That is NOT healthy in the slightest and only allows those who ARE taking the piss to hide and get away with it. You can bet there's one or two of those on the board who are secretly relieved that Maguire is taking all the flak for this, keeps it away from them.. I agree with you. But the way forward is? Not with these two stealing a wage? If the 100club and stagecoach deals fall flat on their arse then he needs to be managed accordingly by the board. I still want to know what Tony Allen does to justify his wage mind. Any cost cutting should be made with him firstly
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Post by rcb on Dec 27, 2017 18:56:04 GMT
Go back a few months and you will see the posts in regard to the charlatan that Maguire is. Worst appointment the new club has ever made, and all because the Board were too idle to do anything themselves - hence the ridiculous remit afforded him. He has totally exploited this vulnerable situation, much to the detriment of the club. Surely he has failed in so many aspects of his job to justify his dismissal. Get rid now, and shift the useless and pointless Allen at the same time. Bignot out at the same time, and put all those sick notes currently stealing a wage on final warnings prior to dismissal also. Get Barrow in immediately. You want my money through the turnstile then give me the club I signed up for in 2010, not the nondescript, non communicative club run as a one man show by the useless Maguire. Call me what you will, but as long as any part of my admission fee goes to Maguire then I will not go. Hundreds share the same philosophy. Memo. to the board: I might have supported the club since 1963, but I’m not prepared to be taken the piss out of to the current extent any more.
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Post by Mean Machine on Dec 27, 2017 18:57:42 GMT
You both make good points guys if you dont mind me saying I cant make my mind up if Maguire is incompetant and ****ing up the club, or if the board is at fault and Maguire is having to face the fans and take the flack for it Possibly a bit of both ?
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Dec 27, 2017 19:01:56 GMT
Go back a few months and you will see the posts in regard to the charlatan that Maguire is. Worst appointment the new club has ever made, and all because the Board were too idle to do anything themselves - hence the ridiculous remit afforded him. He has totally exploited this vulnerable situation, much to the detriment of the club. Surely he has failed in so many aspects of his job to justify his dismissal. Get rid now, and shift the useless and pointless Allen at the same time. Bignot out at the same time, and put all those sick notes currently stealing a wage on final warnings prior to dismissal also. Get Barrow in immediately. You want my money through the turnstile then give me the club I signed up for in 2010, not the nondescript, non communicative club run as a one man show by the useless Maguire. Call me what you will, but as long as any part of my admission fee goes to Maguire then I will not go. Hundreds share the same philosophy. Memo. to the board: I might have supported the club since 1963, but I’m not prepared to be taken the piss out of to the current extent any more. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Post by paulcrossleyshair on Dec 27, 2017 19:09:27 GMT
The biggest thing to stand out to me in that article that waves a massive red flag are the amount of times he uses the word "I" As if he is the only one doing anything or capable to do anything. No mention of the Board, who he should be reporting into, and/or what they are doing. The Board are coming across more and more as Spineless and Impotent. In our current position the Board need to be making him redundant NOW, we sure as hell won't be able to afford to keep him on in the Conference North so let's save 6 months wages now. Tony Allen is another to go, we had a very successful volunteer doing that role previously if I remember correctly. Save money now to go towards our survival for next season. The majority of the Board need to go too. There are a tiny handful of good people there but far too many egotists, passengers and CV enhancers not pulling their weight. Tony Allan should never have been appointed in the first place. Maguire at least is supposedly launching this, 100club next month as well as the deal with stagecoach. Both could bring in significant money into the club so Maguire needs to at least see those through. If they don't bring money in then his position should be reviewed or at least giving a performance warning when it comes to appraisal time, if he has an appraisal that is.. The boards are my concern at the moment Although I agree with you .............. The 100 Club doesn't have a chance, never in a million years will you get 100 right minded Business Owners stumping up £1000 each for....................... well, little more than nothing. The Stagecoach deal would have and will go ahead without Maguire if they are really interested. They both must go now, but I fear the Impotent Board don't have the will or the way :-(
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Dec 27, 2017 19:15:05 GMT
Great escape my arse. Does he not realise how piss poor this squad is?
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 27, 2017 19:18:15 GMT
Uncanny isn't it? It takes the real possibility of a peasant's revolt for a few words from the glorious leader to attempt to appease the great unwashed. Problem is, I don't think it washes any more with many people - very similar to the players' "we're hurting" etc We've heard it time and time again; so much so that what little impact it may have had evaporated a long time ago As a fan, I'm just exhausted by the whole sorry sagaThat's me too. It's affecting my equilibrium and well-being. I had a nightmare last night and woke up in a real sweat. The whole of 2017 has been a nightmare with regard to my beloved Chester FC. I've realised a long time ago that we're never going to get back into the league 2 without considerable outside investment. Despite that I suppose I'm satisfied with some good football, being decent at home, a good cup run now and then and not being humiliated by teams that we would should beat with ease (Woking, Boreham Wood, Dover, Solihull, etc). We need some of that bingo hall spirit that we had in 2010, which has completely evaporated. When was the last time we signed a decent player. I would suggest hardly none since the Conference North-winning season.
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Post by Hannibal on Dec 27, 2017 19:21:19 GMT
He’s way out of line! When did it become his job to ensure the manager does his job and the players and fans do theirs? I thought he was responsible for the commercial aspects of the club. When did he become responsible for the playing side as well. Ive been undecided about MM. I’m not know, megalomaniac, get rid now! If anyone was wondering who runs the football club now, they need to look no further than this article. If he has got that much power, then all these people defending him as 'just the commercial director' need to take a long, hard look at themselves. Last time I checked our Wikipeadia entry he was down as Chairman.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 19:27:40 GMT
You both make good points guys if you dont mind me saying I cant make my mind up if Maguire is incompetant and ****ing up the club, or if the board is at fault and Maguire is having to face the fans and take the flack for it Possibly a bit of both ? You may well be right - I don't think you'll ever reconcile the differences between those who support MM and those who don't so arguments will rage on. However, I don't think there's much doubt among many that he's a factor (as is the board as a whole + the players + past/current managers etc) in our current decline. We seem to have many "toxic" elements within the club at the moment, all contributing to the shambles. I use "toxic" for want of a better term to illustrate my main point. As with any infection, it is essential to rid yourself of any trace because otherwise you leave a risk of the condition returning. Those calling for MM to go are, I fear, only half addressing the issue. As I've said before, as have many others, we're now in major surgery country to cleanse ourselves of all the "toxins". By it's very nature, this is no small exercise, will hurt a lot of people and may take some time for the patient to recover The big question as I see it is: Are we up for such a fundamental reset or do we chuck a few antibiotics and sticking plasters at it and hope for the best? I feel we're really at that stage now. Others on hear seem to have the vision, expertise and desire to push us forward as a club. I sincerely hope, if they want to, that they get the opportunity.
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Post by rcb on Dec 27, 2017 19:27:42 GMT
You both make good points guys if you dont mind me saying I cant make my mind up if Maguire is incompetant and ****ing up the club, or if the board is at fault and Maguire is having to face the fans and take the flack for it Possibly a bit of both ? Simply consider the f*cking up of both Hull and Stockport. If you think three in a row is purely a coincidence then give Maguire the benefit of the doubt. By the way, the board is at fault, regardless of Maguire.
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Post by paulie on Dec 27, 2017 19:36:56 GMT
Of course he runs the show, does anyone actually believe that he answers to any of the spineless, gutless, invisible imposters that pretend to be board members?
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