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Post by chislenko on Feb 14, 2018 21:52:33 GMT
Respect Richard, I remember when we used to watch Chester you always had "banter" with me for being Welsh but I always had to remind you that you lived in Wales and worked for a Welsh company 😎 As a proud welshman myself I am surprised you were prepared to tolerate such casual racism ! Trust me Trev I never accept it but I have also learnt over the years to discriminate between those who mean it and those who misguidedly think it is a "bit of banter" through knowing no better.
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Post by Juan nil on Feb 14, 2018 22:18:42 GMT
To be fair to the poster concerned we have supporters who are totally against giving anything towards Chester so not sure how much will be raised. I have already made a small donation - fan owned clubs and all that. Suspect we will be lucky to get £20 ! So perhaps we shouldn't be so fawning in our gratitude. Afterall this club's fans are only too quick gloat that we let our club die already. Perhaps we would be better being more dignified, professional and concentrate on our own vital efforts rather than be distracted by an empty gesture from a couple of goats fans. I suspect it will be a bit more than £20 and even if it was only 20 quid it is 20 quid more than you have now!!!
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Post by trev on Feb 14, 2018 22:49:46 GMT
Suspect we will be lucky to get £20 ! So perhaps we shouldn't be so fawning in our gratitude. Afterall this club's fans are only too quick gloat that we let our club die already. Perhaps we would be better being more dignified, professional and concentrate on our own vital efforts rather than be distracted by an empty gesture from a couple of goats fans. I suspect it will be a bit more than £20 and even if it was only 20 quid it is 20 quid more than you have now!!!
A typical goat reaction and expect more of this mocking our current position. Bucket collections at rivals grounds are unnecessary and appear both desperate and unprofessional. The amount rasied will understandably be very small and make no difference whatsoever in addressing the Clubs current financial position. At best it smacks of a publicity stunt of which the main beneficiary will be W*****M FC and their gloating goat fans, and be an unnecessary distraction from significant fund raising efforts as well as annoying some of our own supporters.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Feb 14, 2018 22:52:41 GMT
I suspect it will be a bit more than £20 and even if it was only 20 quid it is 20 quid more than you have now!!!
A typical goat reaction and expect more of this mocking our current position. Bucket collections at rivals grounds are unnecessary and appear both desperate and unprofessional. The amount rasied will understandably be very small and make no difference whatsoever in addressing the Clubs current financial position. At best it smacks of a publicity stunt of which the main beneficiary will be W*****M FC and their gloating goat fans, and be an unnecessary distraction from significant fund raising efforts as well as annoying some of our own supporters.
Spot on
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Feb 14, 2018 22:52:44 GMT
Would you help Wrexham, I know I wouldn’t. Wouldn’t give them the steam off my shit. To be fair I can’t think of any reason why they’d want to collect it? 😂😂😂😂. Personally im with the majority. Thank you for the gesture and donations 👍
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Post by agl on Feb 14, 2018 23:02:47 GMT
I suspect it will be a bit more than £20 and even if it was only 20 quid it is 20 quid more than you have now!!!
A typical goat reaction and expect more of this mocking our current position. Bucket collections at rivals grounds are unnecessary and appear both desperate and unprofessional. The amount rasied will understandably be very small and make no difference whatsoever in addressing the Clubs current financial position. At best it smacks of a publicity stunt of which the main beneficiary will be W*****M FC and their gloating goat fans, and be an unnecessary distraction from significant fund raising efforts as well as annoying some of our own supporters.
In case it had passed you by....we are desperate. And I am neither distracted nor annoyed.
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Post by trev on Feb 14, 2018 23:10:23 GMT
A typical goat reaction and expect more of this mocking our current position. Bucket collections at rivals grounds are unnecessary and appear both desperate and unprofessional. The amount rasied will understandably be very small and make no difference whatsoever in addressing the Clubs current financial position. At best it smacks of a publicity stunt of which the main beneficiary will be W*****M FC and their gloating goat fans, and be an unnecessary distraction from significant fund raising efforts as well as annoying some of our own supporters.
In case it had passed you by....we are desperate. And I am neither distracted nor annoyed.
Quite frankly if we are this embarrassingly desperate for such a small donation, we may as well give up now ! Shouldn't the focus be on significant fund raising events such as tomorrow night, rather the Club tweeting about a Bucket collection ?
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Post by jb on Feb 14, 2018 23:28:53 GMT
Well, it's already at £25 from money I've collected from two Wrexham fans who just handed me the cash for our funds. One even joined the CFU. To call it an empty gesture is to spectacularly miss the point. It's one fan owned club offering to help another in need. Whatever is collected will be welcome and I for one, will be very grateful. Given that you were highly supportive of the failed McCarthy regime which directly resulted in the current crisis and potential demise of the Club I am not surprised you are very grateful. Spot on Trev.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 23:30:27 GMT
That's what we're like (wiping a tear away)
Besides, I'd rather chuck in a couple of quid to you lot than give Oxfam £3 per month so their relief workers can go on a bender.....
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Post by banksy on Feb 15, 2018 0:07:00 GMT
Think what needs to be remembered here is that Wrexham have actually offered to do this, we have not asked them, so any claims of being desperate enough to ask them to do this are way off the mark.
I'm as much a Wrexham hater when it comes down to the football side of things as much as anyone else, but this offer has to be welcomed with open arms. They are now a fan owned club like ourselves and have recognised that another fan owned club down the road from them is struggling, so absolutely fair play to them for offering to help.
Like every other Chester fan I'll still be there on March 11th giving them loads, that's what derby day is about for me, and one of the main reasons I first got involved with doing something 8 or 9 years ago, I couldn't bear to see us losing this fixture permanently.
Let's just say 'thank you' to them on this occasion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 0:29:56 GMT
I think this was the tweet that was mentioned earlier. There is a very loud "minority" who don't seem to want to help. I don't think you can really expect a large donation, luckily you weren't counting on it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 0:55:17 GMT
Nah I wouldn't worry if I were you trev, many, many more won't be donating than will be, due mainly to various tweets and posts from Chester "fans" who are more willing to let the club die (again). So you'll get your wish. I wonder how many divisions you'll have to drop this time if you go bust? It'll be further than just the Conference North? It is a shame for the majority of real fans though. They deserve a club.
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Post by trev on Feb 15, 2018 1:06:57 GMT
Nah I wouldn't worry if I were you trev, many, many more won't be donating than will be, due mainly to various tweets and posts from Chester "fans" who are more willing to let the club die (again). So you'll get your wish. I wonder how many divisions you'll have to drop this time if you go bust? It'll be further than just the Conference North? It is a shame for the majority of real fans though. They deserve a club. I somehow suspect that the tiny amounts raised by a bucket collection or donations from goat fans, even before you were offended, will not be missed and have no impact whatsoever on the Clubs financial position or whatever division we may find ourselves in. But thanks for your concern.
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Post by devacymro on Feb 15, 2018 1:11:44 GMT
Lads if it upsets you so much that Wrexham fans may contribute a few hundred pounds to your cause. Then just send it back to us, or donate to charity, your fan owned you can vote to make sure it happens.
I will look forward to reading that the posters on here,who are against the collection proposed it at your next meeting?. If they even attend that is.
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Post by sumo on Feb 15, 2018 1:30:04 GMT
In case it had passed you by....we are desperate. And I am neither distracted nor annoyed.
Quite frankly if we are this embarrassingly desperate for such a small donation, we may as well give up now ! Shouldn't the focus be on significant fund raising events such as tomorrow night, rather the Club tweeting about a Bucket collection ?
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Post by sumo on Feb 15, 2018 1:30:53 GMT
do they call you clever trevor
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 15, 2018 7:28:32 GMT
Nah I wouldn't worry if I were you trev, many, many more won't be donating than will be, due mainly to various tweets and posts from Chester "fans" who are more willing to let the club die (again). So you'll get your wish. I wonder how many divisions you'll have to drop this time if you go bust? It'll be further than just the Conference North? It is a shame for the majority of real fans though. They deserve a club. We don’t need their money. What’s the £100 they’ll raise in the grand scheme of things compared to the £100K or so we’ll raise ourselves? Just for them to claim they’ve had to save our club themselves as we can’t!
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Post by chislenko on Feb 15, 2018 7:45:02 GMT
Fair do's there are some angry people about!
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Post by gaz on Feb 15, 2018 9:36:51 GMT
some of the comments and attitudes on here are embarrassing to any true supporter of Chester football Club ....
the club is in a mess at every level, a neighbouring club offers assists and the appearance to the outside world is the fans spat it back in their face. I don't see any other clubs making collections or bending over backwards to help.
far too many people on here are looking for individuals and board members to blame... rather than facing the truth which is that football clubs needs money to run, this club is a supporter financed club... the money needs to come from the supporters, who aren't prepared to put their hands in their pockets so the begging bowls are out....again!!
The Neighbours have set an example and rather than accepting help and building bridges what happens..... Any Wrexham fan reading this put your hard earned in your BTB fund i am sure one match featuring a load of has beens will solve all the financial issues.......not!
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Post by englishred on Feb 15, 2018 9:42:45 GMT
I suspect it will be a bit more than £20 and even if it was only 20 quid it is 20 quid more than you have now!!!
A typical goat reaction and expect more of this mocking our current position. Bucket collections at rivals grounds are unnecessary and appear both desperate and unprofessional. The amount rasied will understandably be very small and make no difference whatsoever in addressing the Clubs current financial position. At best it smacks of a publicity stunt of which the main beneficiary will be W*****M FC and their gloating goat fans, and be an unnecessary distraction from significant fund raising efforts as well as annoying some of our own supporters.
So all Wrexham fans are exactly the same? This thread demonstrates that opinions differ amongst Chester fans so why would we be any different? From what I've seen the majority of Wrexham fans are sympathetic to your current situation and would like to help. I've enjoyed the last few years and havin a proper (football) rivalry again. Wouldn't want to see you go to the wall again.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Feb 15, 2018 10:05:58 GMT
A typical goat reaction and expect more of this mocking our current position. Bucket collections at rivals grounds are unnecessary and appear both desperate and unprofessional. The amount rasied will understandably be very small and make no difference whatsoever in addressing the Clubs current financial position. At best it smacks of a publicity stunt of which the main beneficiary will be W*****M FC and their gloating goat fans, and be an unnecessary distraction from significant fund raising efforts as well as annoying some of our own supporters.
So all Wrexham fans are exactly the same? This thread demonstrates that opinions differ amongst Chester fans so why would we be any different? From what I've seen the majority of Wrexham fans are sympathetic to your current situation and would like to help. I've enjoyed the last few years and havin a proper (football) rivalry again. Wouldn't want to see you go to the wall again. Majority? Don’t be so naive
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Post by englishred on Feb 15, 2018 10:25:15 GMT
So all Wrexham fans are exactly the same? This thread demonstrates that opinions differ amongst Chester fans so why would we be any different? From what I've seen the majority of Wrexham fans are sympathetic to your current situation and would like to help. I've enjoyed the last few years and havin a proper (football) rivalry again. Wouldn't want to see you go to the wall again. Majority? Don’t be so naive Believe it or not most people are decent. There is a vocal minority of narrow minded people, like weve got here, but most Wrexham fans don't want to see you go under. We want to see you lose. We might enjoy seeing you get relegated, but not out of business.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 10:36:14 GMT
I can't believe the pathetic posts from some of our supporters.Wrexham have offered to help chester .i for one thank them for their offer .i have supported chester for 64 years and this gesture shows we can all get along together .except on derby days
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Feb 15, 2018 10:51:29 GMT
Majority? Don’t be so naive Believe it or not most people are decent. There is a vocal minority of narrow minded people, like weve got here, but most Wrexham fans don't want to see you go under. We want to see you lose. We might enjoy seeing you get relegated, but not out of business. Half of your ground sing ‘You sad Chester bastards, you let your club die’ Don’t blame them, i would do the same.
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Post by Si on Feb 15, 2018 12:00:17 GMT
This is getting embarrassing now. If Wrexham want to give us money than we're in no position to turn it down. Personally think it's a great gesture. Locking this thread now - if people want to continue baiting each other then I refer you to the dedicated thread on the off topic forum for those that love that sort of thing.
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