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Post by wxmred on Feb 24, 2018 20:26:45 GMT
The way our teams are playing it should be a interesting game on the 11th of March.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Feb 24, 2018 20:40:23 GMT
The way our teams are playing it should be a interesting game on the 11th of March. If you don't toss us 6-0 you ain't good enough to go up
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Post by wxmred on Feb 24, 2018 20:46:54 GMT
The way our teams are playing it should be a interesting game on the 11th of March. If you don't toss us 6-0 you ain't good enough to go up We wouldn't score six goals in a month of Sundays.
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Post by agl on Feb 24, 2018 20:57:12 GMT
One of the traits that has recurred previously in those last few minutes has been falling back and trying to defend our position (badly) rather than carrying on with the football that has got us into a good position in the first place. Can anyone who went tell us whether this was the case yet again today? We didn't seem to know how to manage the game when we went in front. I guess that comes from losing so often. Had chances to go 3-1 up and really should have been able to pick them off as they threw men forwards. After it got to 2-2 we went into panic mode and the Halls own goal was almost comical. Totally lost his bearings in the box and headed it in to his own net when he should have cleared easily. Generally we kept the ball well...Vose and Roberts are definite improvements on James and Turnbull. Maybe should have taken Vose off with ten to go and shored up midfield but easy to say that now. I thought Waters had a so-so game but followed up well for the goal and kept plugging away. I'm not sure about Archer - he looks like Bambi on ice sometimes but the volley was a beauty. Hannah ran the channels as usual but wasted two or three half chances. Hobson looks a good prospect. I guess we will start from search next season but hope the likes of Jones and Crawford stay and maybe Roberts can be offered some sort of coaching role. I've been impressed with him. Real shame we didn't get anything today - decent turn out and fans got behind the team.
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 24, 2018 21:00:10 GMT
Had chance after chance to finish them off at 2-1. Big chances. Clean through on many occasions, both Archer and Hannah. Said it’d come back to bite us. My god it did. Devastated and still on the way home.
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Post by agl on Feb 24, 2018 21:06:08 GMT
I won't dwell on Hannah's falilings but he hasn't got that half yard of pace to take him clear when he's through.
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Post by rcb on Feb 24, 2018 21:11:40 GMT
Had chance after chance to finish them off at 2-1. Big chances. Clean through on many occasions, both Archer and Hannah. Said it’d come back to bite us. My god it did. Devastated and still on the way home. Safe journey home young man. I don’t know what first attracted you to support the club, but I only wish many more of your generation would join in, for the future of the club.
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Post by agl on Feb 24, 2018 21:15:47 GMT
Yeah, feel sorry for the likes of Danny and Rio having to endure this. Saw Rio getting in the car after the game. Hope they will stick with it. Character building I suppose
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Post by MPW on Feb 24, 2018 21:16:38 GMT
I was listening to updates on Dee106 in the car and when we were 2-1 up I reminded my lad that we had lost at D&R last season when winning with a few minutes to go. I was thinking surely we couldn’t do it again?. Then literally seconds later Dee went across to the reporter to say that D&R were level and I really wasn’t surprised when we went on to lose.
I wasn’t expecting anything today anyway, but to lose in that manner again is just pathetic!
We simply don’t deserve to stay up!
I’ll be glad when this season is over and we start with a clean slate without this manager and most of the squad.
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 24, 2018 21:19:16 GMT
Yeah, feel sorry for the likes of Danny and Rio having to endure this. Saw Rio getting in the car after the game. Hope they will stick with it. Character building I suppose Oh it’s just a preview for the decades to come for younger fans like us. Bring it on... quick note for Vose who was class again, Waters who looked more like a football player since his loan, Archer and Hannah worked well together just wish they put a few of their huge chances away as if they did we’d be celebrating a 4-1 win right now.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 24, 2018 21:37:11 GMT
Considering what's just happened, I would have expected more posts than there are currently as people voice their anger and frustration at another crushing last gasp defeat. The fact there isn't suggests we're now firmly in "shrug of the shoulders" territory. Nothing that happens with this team now comes as a surprise anymore. Even after a defeat, you can generally look forward to the next game with some element of anticipation but I sense many people just feel that the end of the season can't come soon enough. What the club, manager and players do in the next few weeks to reinvigorate the fans (besides the obvious) is anyone's guess because the atmosphere at the home games will, as can be expected, get flatter and flatter If you cast your mind back to last February when we lost 3-2 there, it was hard to take because it felt cruel and surprising to lose in that way. Twelve months on, and the reaction to what is basically the exact same game is one of "here we go again". We've lost so many games in stupid circumstances over the past year and a bit, the shock element has gone and it's more of a surprise when it doesn't happen. It's like England with penalty shootouts. Every time we lose one, the psychological barrier to winning the next one becomes stronger and I really think it's got to the point where England will never win a penalty shootout again. It's the same with us - the losing mentality has become so strong, it's become a force field and we will literally beat ourselves if we have to. Once Dagenham got it back to 2-2, I don't know about anyone else but I had absolutely no doubt whatsoever they would go on to win. When the feeling that something will happen is that strong, it must filter through to the players, who panic, do silly things and ultimately make sure that it does indeed happen!
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Post by agl on Feb 24, 2018 21:49:43 GMT
Ha, yes, know what you mean. With ten minutes to go we were sitting there predicting the minutes in which the Daggers' equaliser and winner would be scored. I went for 85 and 90 plus 1, so not bad.
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Post by oldnotdecrepit on Feb 24, 2018 22:08:30 GMT
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Post by Wortleyblue on Feb 24, 2018 22:17:02 GMT
Typical bbc don't care about anything below the premiershite
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Post by dc2cfc on Feb 24, 2018 22:46:41 GMT
Such a massive defeat this, as a win would have been a better build up for the next two home games ... with a slight bit of hope still going into the games !
Ah well this has been completely f****d up !!
This season 😔😕
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 24, 2018 23:42:17 GMT
Got back home around 10’ish due to that M6 traffic. I was too tired to write my own summary of the game so I may as well do so now. I was absolutely gutted to see us fall apart in the last 5 minutes. We were brilliant for nearly all of the game but just switched off at the end. Today’s game felt like the exact mirror image of Dagenham away last year, ironically on a similar date. I really enjoyed today’s match and the atmosphere was great. There really was a feel-good factor around the away end (especially when we were winning). We started off a little bit slowly, but grew into it once Dagenham scored. To be fair, it was a good strike by Okenabirhie and Hornby couldn’t do too much. That goal sparked us into life. We passed the ball around well and created some decent half-chances. I thought that Matty Waters had a good game today and hit the bar soon after. It’s too late to even think that we will stay up now, but if we had discovered this starting line-up a few months ago then we may be in mid-table right now. In our 3 games this week, this team has looked really encouraging and shown good signs. Jordan Archer’s finish was superb. From looking back on it, it was a difficult goal to score but he found the net well. Jordan needed that goal today in my opinion. He works his socks off every week, but I think that he needed a goal to give him a little bit of a boost. In the second half, we were brilliant again. Our players showed a lot of passion and desire. Even when we were 2-1 up, surprisingly we were still attacking Dagenham and not dropping deep. I was made up for Matty Waters when he scored today. It wouldn’t have been easy for him as he was thrown straight into the starting XI but he played well as he hit the bar and scored too. I was overjoyed when we went 2-1 up as well as our other supporters, but it’s so frustrating to have lost. We just lost our heads a bit which made Dagenham come at us. The end result was just typical Chester really... can’t hold onto a lead. I have no doubts about effort, but the feelings of utter disappointment and frustration comes to mind after that.
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Post by whopper1 on Feb 25, 2018 0:31:31 GMT
Just got in, what a cracking game today at reading, done daggers so decided to tick another off the 92, Derby took a good 3000,top town centre for drinking, did elm park with chester years ago, unfortunately we'll never do the new ground,typical new build ground, decent atmosphere and football buses from town centre £2 return, bargain.
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Post by Anders on Feb 25, 2018 1:17:27 GMT
I was devastated at full time, plonked myself back on the tube train back from Dagenham East to Central London and stared out of the window for 45 minutes in total silence. Even had Dagenham fans come up and compliment us but I was just almost in a trance. You do have to witness it to believe it really, after last year as well where we somehow managed to lose in remarkably similar fashion. It really just felt like Chester luck if there is such a thing, certainly feels like there is.
For the first time in ages this week I’ve felt like I’ve been supporting a team that I had a bit of confidence in rather than backing in blind hope, one that would put in a show and fight for me, they did today for 85 minutes. We played out from the back, passed the ball around well and created chances. We certainly deserved to win but didn’t kill the game off, I just thought too many times Hannah and Archer’s final ball & decision was lacking when in good positions. Archer even went to the corner flag in the 83rd minute instead of playing Aki through on goal.
Plenty of good performances for me, the likes of Vose, Crawford & Waters in particular. Mind you the two full backs had tough games, Halls wasn’t having his best game even before the own goal and Anderson was similarly stretched. Roberts was streetwise and Hannah and Archer although a bit wasteful upfront were a handful and constantly caused problems.
Can’t help but feel we lacked a defensive option on the bench to help kill the game off, Dawson was the nearest but he doesn’t inspire much confidence.
There was so much to like and rue about us at the same time, on one hand we now look a side more than capable of taking anyone on at this level for the most part, but on the other you just can’t shake that uneasy feeling that we’re going to do something stupid and act really soft for just a minute.
137 Chester fans in the away end.
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Post by tonya on Feb 25, 2018 4:20:10 GMT
Can we stay up, is the question. Some here seem to be willing the season to end and are ready to chuck in the towel. You have to be careful for what you wish for. It could be a disaster. Any decent players will be out. Crowds down, along with revenue. From another perspective being located in SWest there will be no away games I can get to. There is a danger of being seen as once a solid League Club and becoming a small provincial club.
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Post by Derry Blue on Feb 25, 2018 8:28:48 GMT
Can we stay up, is the question. Some here seem to be willing the season to end and are ready to chuck in the towel. You have to be careful for what you wish for. It could be a disaster. Any decent players will be out. Crowds down, along with revenue. From another perspective being located in SWest there will be no away games I can get to. There is a danger of being seen as once a solid League Club and becoming a small provincial club. Your post seems to imply that whether we stay up or not is somehow down to us. I suggest we're at the mercy of our players (I use the term advisedly in some cases) and our manager. However whether we survive as a club is down to us and we'll done everyone who is striving to make that happen.
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Post by tonya on Feb 25, 2018 9:32:39 GMT
No, of course not. I am just reiterating what posters have said.
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Post by johny9 on Feb 25, 2018 9:58:59 GMT
We are much improved lately but It’s clear to see we are a team lacking in confidence and now we are all but down but if we can finally get back to back wins I’m confident we can go on a run as we finally look like a team now but the confidence is a massive issue
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Post by sqzl on Feb 25, 2018 10:35:22 GMT
Chester FC fan base right now: Could have. Should have. Would have.
Performances are improving but no points being picked up means one thing, rebuilding in the NLN.
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Post by rcb on Feb 25, 2018 10:51:25 GMT
Chester FC fan base right now: Could have. Should have. Would have. Performances are improving but no points being picked up means one thing, rebuilding in the NLN. I keep reading about rebuilding in the NLN, as if it will be an assured and comfortable ride. Don’t know whether this is confidence based on an accurate assessment, or blind faith based on nothing other than hope. My fear is that the club will start preseason with neither quality or experience, with little money to compete for players. It’s more a question of who would want to stay than who we would like to keep. Willingness to join Chester on the way up is very different to wanting to join a club on the way down. Sadly I’m seeing a double relegation on the horizon, and rather than a rebuilding exercise it will be fight for survival as a club. Who will want to sponsor the club? How can New supporters be attracted?
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Post by Oaks Blue on Feb 25, 2018 11:29:40 GMT
Chester FC fan base right now: Could have. Should have. Would have. Performances are improving but no points being picked up means one thing, rebuilding in the NLN. I keep reading about rebuilding in the NLN, as if it will be an assured and comfortable ride. Don’t know whether this is confidence based on an accurate assessment, or blind faith based on nothing other than hope. My fear is that the club will start preseason with neither quality or experience, with little money to compete for players. It’s more a question of who would want to stay than who we would like to keep. Willingness to join Chester on the way up is very different to wanting to join a club on the way down. Sadly I’m seeing a double relegation on the horizon, and rather than a rebuilding exercise it will be fight for survival as a club. Who will want to sponsor the club? How can New supporters be attracted? More local games, more away fans, more money in the club's bank. Better ownership off the pitch The core 1750 fans we have sticking with it through thick and thin Blooding youngsters in the first team Win, lose or draw knowing that we have the club's destiny in our own hands. Sorry if this is too positive for you rcb, it's what the majority of fans think about next season, maybe one day you'll be persuaded to see the future in the same way, but I doubt it
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Post by tonya on Feb 25, 2018 12:08:18 GMT
I keep reading about rebuilding in the NLN, as if it will be an assured and comfortable ride. Don’t know whether this is confidence based on an accurate assessment, or blind faith based on nothing other than hope. My fear is that the club will start preseason with neither quality or experience, with little money to compete for players. It’s more a question of who would want to stay than who we would like to keep. Willingness to join Chester on the way up is very different to wanting to join a club on the way down. Sadly I’m seeing a double relegation on the horizon, and rather than a rebuilding exercise it will be fight for survival as a club. Who will want to sponsor the club? How can New supporters be attracted? More local games, more away fans, more money in the club's bank. Better ownership off the pitch The core 1750 fans we have sticking with it through thick and thin Blooding youngsters in the first team Win, lose or draw knowing that we have the club's destiny in our own hands. Sorry if this is too positive for you rcb, it's what the majority of fans think about next season, maybe one day you'll be persuaded to see the future in the same way, but I doubt it I'm not sure where you get your statistics from when you say 'the majority of fans'. To go blindly down believing all will be well is short-sighted. Plans need to be formulated to make the club bigger and more successful again rather than relishing lower league football and a small time outlook.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Feb 25, 2018 12:17:27 GMT
More local games, more away fans, more money in the club's bank. Better ownership off the pitch The core 1750 fans we have sticking with it through thick and thin Blooding youngsters in the first team Win, lose or draw knowing that we have the club's destiny in our own hands. Sorry if this is too positive for you rcb, it's what the majority of fans think about next season, maybe one day you'll be persuaded to see the future in the same way, but I doubt it I'm not sure where you get your statistics from when you say 'the majority of fans'. To go blindly down believing all will be well is short-sighted. Plans need to be formulated to make the club bigger and more successful again rather than relishing lower league football and a small time outlook. Who said anything about blindly going down? The club is going to be well run next year, or do you disagree there too?
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Post by rcb on Feb 25, 2018 12:23:26 GMT
I keep reading about rebuilding in the NLN, as if it will be an assured and comfortable ride. Don’t know whether this is confidence based on an accurate assessment, or blind faith based on nothing other than hope. My fear is that the club will start preseason with neither quality or experience, with little money to compete for players. It’s more a question of who would want to stay than who we would like to keep. Willingness to join Chester on the way up is very different to wanting to join a club on the way down. Sadly I’m seeing a double relegation on the horizon, and rather than a rebuilding exercise it will be fight for survival as a club. Who will want to sponsor the club? How can New supporters be attracted? More local games, more away fans, more money in the club's bank. Better ownership off the pitch The core 1750 fans we have sticking with it through thick and thin Blooding youngsters in the first team Win, lose or draw knowing that we have the club's destiny in our own hands. Sorry if this is too positive for you rcb, it's what the majority of fans think about next season, maybe one day you'll be persuaded to see the future in the same way, but I doubt it It’s very clear I disagree entirely with your comments, as I would with any wearer of rose tinted specs. Nothing to do with positive or negative on my side, purely a genuine fear based on logic. Not long to wait until preseason, so let’s see how that pans out. Your “core” appears to invent an extra 450, but don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story., and where you get that nonsense about what the majority of fans want is fantasy. I’m beginning to suspect you have shares in Evo-stik.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Feb 25, 2018 13:10:24 GMT
More local games, more away fans, more money in the club's bank. Better ownership off the pitch The core 1750 fans we have sticking with it through thick and thin Blooding youngsters in the first team Win, lose or draw knowing that we have the club's destiny in our own hands. Sorry if this is too positive for you rcb, it's what the majority of fans think about next season, maybe one day you'll be persuaded to see the future in the same way, but I doubt it It’s very clear I disagree entirely with your comments, as I would with any wearer of rose tinted specs. Nothing to do with positive or negative on my side, purely a genuine fear based on logic. Not long to wait until preseason, so let’s see how that pans out. Your “core” appears to invent an extra 450, but don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story., and where you get that nonsense about what the majority of fans want is fantasy. I’m beginning to suspect you have shares in Evo-stik. Well done, you managed two posts recently without mentioning bignot. There's hope for you yet
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Post by Lobster on Feb 25, 2018 13:11:01 GMT
I kind of agree with both of you. Starting in the Conference North next season would give us a better chance of regrouping, but I don't take it as a given that we'll hit the ground running. We might well struggle for a few seasons and I wouldn't rule out back-to-back relegations. But we need to get back to a position where we're not stressing about cashflow and have money in the bank, and if that means cutting back on the playing staff, so be it.
If we do struggle in the Conference North, we need to stick with the club, keep going to games and have faith it will get better. We could look at clubs like Newport, Aldershot and Maidstone who knocked around in the sixth and seventh tier for years but are doing much better now.
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