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Post by poolepirate on Mar 19, 2018 18:00:39 GMT
anyone know if MM has actually left his position now ? i thought i read somewhere at the time of the announcement that his notice expired in april but on one of the threads it was stated "now MM has left" just wondered if anyone can confirm please ?
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Post by Rio Doherty on Mar 19, 2018 18:34:54 GMT
Although Maguire’s notice lasted until next month, he left at the end of January. Also it must be fairly obvious now anyway as he hasn’t been in the press at all since the CFU meeting in January.
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Post by g1 on Mar 19, 2018 22:19:40 GMT
The next post I want to see about this man is he's emigrated to outer more Mongolia
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Post by sumo on Mar 19, 2018 22:22:42 GMT
Or inner less curryia
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Post by canadianexile on Mar 19, 2018 22:52:21 GMT
The next post I want to see about this man is he's emigrated to outer more Mongolia why |
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Post by Al on Mar 19, 2018 23:10:07 GMT
anyone know if MM has actually left his position now ? i thought i read somewhere at the time of the announcement that his notice expired in april but on one of the threads it was stated "now MM has left" just wondered if anyone can confirm please ? As Rio has confirmed, he left end of Jan |
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Post by everhopeful on Mar 20, 2018 2:38:39 GMT
anyone know if MM has actually left his position now ? i thought i read somewhere at the time of the announcement that his notice expired in april but on one of the threads it was stated "now MM has left" just wondered if anyone can confirm please ? As Rio has confirmed, he left end of Jan Trouble is, how much money did he take with him? Also, what was the bank balance when he arrived and what was it when he left? |
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Post by Al on Mar 20, 2018 7:19:00 GMT
As Rio has confirmed, he left end of Jan Trouble is, how much money did he take with him? Also, what was the bank balance when he arrived and what was it when he left? And what is it now thanks to all of us supporters? Was about 200k with the Hughes and Alabi money added to the fundraising cash. Forget Maguire now, he's history. A lot of work is going into the Commercial side now and planning ahead for next season. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 20, 2018 9:48:41 GMT
Not quite sure where I stand on Maguire. I don't hate him - he's certainly not up there with Vaughan, Gutterman, Barnes etc - but it seems obvious that he was pretty bad at his job. He speaks well, but with us he's continued his track record of leaving clubs in a worse state than they were when he arrived.
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Post by Arthur's Carpet slipper on Mar 20, 2018 9:57:58 GMT
I'll reserve judgement until we see the full report on what went so badly wrong. It strikes me that the guy struggled to execute his rule effectively whether that was down to his ability or the set-up of our Club's Governance and Operational boards coupled with poor management time will tell.
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Post by Matt on Mar 20, 2018 9:59:58 GMT
As Rio has confirmed, he left end of Jan Trouble is, how much money did he take with him? Also, what was the bank balance when he arrived and what was it when he left? 100K+ was the bank balance then 20k was left before the fundraising started. He left us with nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 16:13:59 GMT
Failing to attend Meetings which could of given us a boost was the last straw
also had a run in with a Steward in the Harry Mac when one of them accidentally threw a ball at a fan which i heard he threatened the Steward at half time
As Al says he's history and i feel for the next club who he's involved with
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Post by jb on Mar 20, 2018 18:19:18 GMT
Can someone from the club give a detailed narrative of Maguire’s reign of destruction and the cost to the club because I think us fans deserve a bit of transparency.
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Post by whopper1 on Mar 20, 2018 19:17:38 GMT
Whoever interviewed him and gave him a job shouldn't be let anywhere near the club again, a quick Google search would of told you all you need to know about him.
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Post by superman on Mar 20, 2018 19:34:24 GMT
Understand where mistakes were made, learn the lessons both good and bad, but move on. We have more important issues on the horizon.
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Post by paulie on Mar 20, 2018 20:07:20 GMT
Did he have a leaving do?
Was there tears from the volunteers like when McCarthy was shown the door?
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Post by paulie on Mar 20, 2018 20:08:21 GMT
Trouble is, how much money did he take with him? Also, what was the bank balance when he arrived and what was it when he left? 100K+ was the bank balance then 20k was left before the fundraising started. He left us with nothing. Can't fault the man for consistency! |
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 21, 2018 6:55:31 GMT
Not quite sure where I stand on Maguire. I don't hate him - he's certainly not up there with Vaughan, Gutterman, Barnes etc - but it seems obvious that he was pretty bad at his job. He speaks well, but with us he's continued his track record of leaving clubs in a worse state than they were when he arrived. He was sacked by a member of the board l who know to be an unpleasant bully (personal experience). He will receive 1K+ per week for 13 weeks. I think we definitely need to draw a line under this episode and never repeat it. We were warned. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 21, 2018 7:01:37 GMT
Not quite sure where I stand on Maguire. I don't hate him - he's certainly not up there with Vaughan, Gutterman, Barnes etc - but it seems obvious that he was pretty bad at his job. He speaks well, but with us he's continued his track record of leaving clubs in a worse state than they were when he arrived. He was sacked by a member of the board l who know to be an unpleasant bully (personal experience). He will receive 1K+ per week for 13 weeks. I think we definitely need to draw a line under this episode and never repeat it. We were warned. It's called gardening leave. I've never been sacked but still paid my salary and neither has anyone else! And stop trying to defend MM he deserved to be given the boot and I'd have done it without still paying the prick |
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 21, 2018 7:11:00 GMT
Not quite sure where I stand on Maguire. I don't hate him - he's certainly not up there with Vaughan, Gutterman, Barnes etc - but it seems obvious that he was pretty bad at his job. He speaks well, but with us he's continued his track record of leaving clubs in a worse state than they were when he arrived. He was sacked by a member of the board l who know to be an unpleasant bully (personal experience). He will receive 1K+ per week for 13 weeks. I think we definitely need to draw a line under this episode and never repeat it. We were warned. Yep, those entrusted to look after our best interests were warned about MM and they were certainly warned about JM. Why were those warnings so stupidly ignored? I'm not comfortable with how it's all been swept under the carpet. We need full and frank discussion if we're to learn. We're not talking about a few mistakes anyone could have made here, they're mistakes that many genuine fans forsaw. Fans who prattle on about hindsight are missing the point in a big way. |
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Post by Al on Mar 21, 2018 7:28:50 GMT
He was sacked by a member of the board l who know to be an unpleasant bully (personal experience). He will receive 1K+ per week for 13 weeks. I think we definitely need to draw a line under this episode and never repeat it. We were warned. It's called gardening leave. I've never been sacked but still paid my salary and neither has anyone else! And stop trying to defend MM he deserved to be given the boot and I'd have done it without still paying the prick And then you'd be up facing a case of unfair dismissal which could cost the club more than making the position redundant. Hannibal, making claims that one of the board is a bully is unhelpful. From those I have met through the working groups I have nothing but respect for them for standing up and/or remaining on the board. A decision had to be made over Maguire and it was made accordingly, he had to go with immediate effect and the working groups have quite easily filled the breach. There is a LOT of really good work going in to rebuild relationships with the business community, we've seen the launch of the Pitch Networking Group hosted at the ground and ran in the main by our partners Red Insure. MBNA are really pleased with the design of the new home shirt and have said they prefer it over the current bespoke one. There is work going on with the Fan Engagement Working Group, and the fundraising working group as well which we'll hopefully see things announced online and in local media before the end of the season. Don't try and undermine those efforts Hannibal because youve got an Axe to grind with someone. If you've got a problem with them, take it offline and deal with it face to face with them. |
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Post by Matt on Mar 21, 2018 7:36:54 GMT
Not quite sure where I stand on Maguire. I don't hate him - he's certainly not up there with Vaughan, Gutterman, Barnes etc - but it seems obvious that he was pretty bad at his job. He speaks well, but with us he's continued his track record of leaving clubs in a worse state than they were when he arrived. He was sacked by a member of the board l who know to be an unpleasant bully (personal experience). He will receive 1K+ per week for 13 weeks. I think we definitely need to draw a line under this episode and never repeat it. We were warned. Wow, that’s is crippling. Not even players are on that much. What were the previous clowns thinking hiring this moron. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Mar 21, 2018 8:13:30 GMT
Surely he would've been dealt with by the board a a whole, rather than the one board member Hannibal mentioned?
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Post by billyw on Mar 21, 2018 8:14:14 GMT
It's called gardening leave. I've never been sacked but still paid my salary and neither has anyone else! And stop trying to defend MM he deserved to be given the boot and I'd have done it without still paying the prick And then you'd be up facing a case of unfair dismissal which could cost the club more than making the position redundant. Hannibal, making claims that one of the board is a bully is unhelpful. From those I have met through the working groups I have nothing but respect for them for standing up and/or remaining on the board. A decision had to be made over Maguire and it was made accordingly, he had to go with immediate effect and the working groups have quite easily filled the breach. There is a LOT of really good work going in to rebuild relationships with the business community, we've seen the launch of the Pitch Networking Group hosted at the ground and ran in the main by our partners Red Insure. MBNA are really pleased with the design of the new home shirt and have said they prefer it over the current bespoke one. There is work going on with the Fan Engagement Working Group, and the fundraising working group as well which we'll hopefully see things announced online and in local media before the end of the season. Don't try and undermine those efforts Hannibal because youve got an Axe to grind with someone. If you've got a problem with them, take it offline and deal with it face to face with them. Please explain how the club could have been 'facing a claim of unfair dismissal ' when a) the post was made redundant and b) McGuire had not been employed for 2 years so could not pursue an unfair dismissal claim in any case. |
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Post by Lobster on Mar 21, 2018 8:28:28 GMT
And then you'd be up facing a case of unfair dismissal which could cost the club more than making the position redundant. Hannibal, making claims that one of the board is a bully is unhelpful. From those I have met through the working groups I have nothing but respect for them for standing up and/or remaining on the board. A decision had to be made over Maguire and it was made accordingly, he had to go with immediate effect and the working groups have quite easily filled the breach. There is a LOT of really good work going in to rebuild relationships with the business community, we've seen the launch of the Pitch Networking Group hosted at the ground and ran in the main by our partners Red Insure. MBNA are really pleased with the design of the new home shirt and have said they prefer it over the current bespoke one. There is work going on with the Fan Engagement Working Group, and the fundraising working group as well which we'll hopefully see things announced online and in local media before the end of the season. Don't try and undermine those efforts Hannibal because youve got an Axe to grind with someone. If you've got a problem with them, take it offline and deal with it face to face with them. Please explain how the club could have been 'facing a claim of unfair dismissal ' when a) the post was made redundant and b) McGuire had not been employed for 2 years so could not pursue an unfair dismissal claim in any case. For a position like a CEO, there is probably a three-month notice period that needs to be given by either the employee and employer if they wish to part ways. 13 weeks is about three-months, so I'm guessing all the club are doing is paying him his notice. |
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Post by Al on Mar 21, 2018 8:33:33 GMT
And then you'd be up facing a case of unfair dismissal which could cost the club more than making the position redundant. Hannibal, making claims that one of the board is a bully is unhelpful. From those I have met through the working groups I have nothing but respect for them for standing up and/or remaining on the board. A decision had to be made over Maguire and it was made accordingly, he had to go with immediate effect and the working groups have quite easily filled the breach. There is a LOT of really good work going in to rebuild relationships with the business community, we've seen the launch of the Pitch Networking Group hosted at the ground and ran in the main by our partners Red Insure. MBNA are really pleased with the design of the new home shirt and have said they prefer it over the current bespoke one. There is work going on with the Fan Engagement Working Group, and the fundraising working group as well which we'll hopefully see things announced online and in local media before the end of the season. Don't try and undermine those efforts Hannibal because youve got an Axe to grind with someone. If you've got a problem with them, take it offline and deal with it face to face with them. Please explain how the club could have been 'facing a claim of unfair dismissal ' when a) the post was made redundant and b) McGuire had not been employed for 2 years so could not pursue an unfair dismissal claim in any case. He'd not been employed for two years hence he was not entitled to any statuary redundancy pay, he has, however served his notice. The poster above suggested that he would have got rid of him without paying him his notice period, to which he is entitled, unless you want to effectively sack the bloke. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 21, 2018 8:46:52 GMT
Unfair dismissal?
The bloke was completely incompetant and was killing the club!
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Post by Al on Mar 21, 2018 8:49:52 GMT
Unfair dismissal? The bloke was completely incompetant and was killing the club! Still, hes served/serving his notice. You can't sack him during that period as he'd be able to take us to court. Look it up on the www.gov.uk site. All there in black and white. |
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Post by alancfc on Mar 21, 2018 9:07:21 GMT
Personally, I saw exactly why the position of CEO was required at the time, it made complete sense to have a central full time figurehead for the business. We however, just got the completely wrong man.
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 21, 2018 10:16:10 GMT
He was sacked by a member of the board l who know to be an unpleasant bully (personal experience). He will receive 1K+ per week for 13 weeks. I think we definitely need to draw a line under this episode and never repeat it. We were warned. It's called gardening leave. I've never been sacked but still paid my salary and neither has anyone else! And stop trying to defend MM he deserved to be given the boot and I'd have done it without still paying the prick Where am I defending him? The man was a complete shyster. |
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