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Post by chislenko on Apr 22, 2018 23:32:36 GMT
And this is from the bloke who pisses off half of Chester's fan base with his nonsense on the commonwealth games thread. Bellend. There's only one bellend on here mate, lol. At least you have acknowledged you are that person.
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Post by martin on Apr 23, 2018 10:21:43 GMT
A question was asked at the CFU meeting about who the current members of the Football working group are and reference has been made on here to the notes of the CFU meeting on 8th March 2018. This list is now out of date. 7 days may be a long time in politices;it can be a very long time indeed at Chester FC.
As far as I am aware(but please confirm the current position with the club)the members of the football working group at the date of the meeting last week were four of the 8 Directors,namely,Calvin Hughes,Laurence Kirby,Mike Day and Andrew Morris. Barrie Hipkiss may still assist the group with matchday operational matters.
Five people left the group during the first two weeks of April - Neil Young and Mark Howell on the 2nd April 2018 and Steve Jones,Bernard Concannon and Martin Williams on or immediately after the 11th April,"carparkgate" proving to be the final straw for the last three.
All five of the aforementioned left with a very heavy heart. Whether I have any knowledge of football is entirely for others to judge,but Messrs Young,Howell,Jones and Concannon have a vast amount of football knowledge between them,both first team and academy, and their departures were hammer blows to the football working group in my opinion. Neil Young should never have been allowed to leave when he did in my opinion.
The Board decided sometime in late March that they were not going to extend the contract of Marcus Bignot. I and indeed others on the football working group advised against retaining the previous manager after the requested decision date of 31st March 2018. I suggested that they could then immediately start the process of getting a new head coach in by the end of the season. I also suggested that Neil Young and Calum McIntyre would make good caretakers for the final half a dozen games. However,the decision was taken to retain the previous manager after the 31st March,leading unfortunately to the ensuing mayhem caused by the departures of two conference north winning managers in rapid succession on 2nd April and 11th April,the latter of which was particularly disgraceful in the way it was handled in my personal opinion. I sincerely hope that Marcus Bignot has received a personal apology;also that he finds success in the future.
We have to move on and try to learn from the mistakes made,and I have made very many myself over the years.
I remain a very dedicated supporter of the football club as I have been for over 52 years now and hope that a good managerial choice is made and things will now start to stabilise after a chaotic last 3 months at the club.
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Post by bitbbh on Apr 23, 2018 11:05:48 GMT
A question was asked at the CFU meeting about who the current members of the Football working group are and reference has been made on here to the notes of the CFU meeting on 8th March 2018. This list is now out of date. 7 days may be a long time in politices;it can be a very long time indeed at Chester FC. As far as I am aware(but please confirm the current position with the club)the members of the football working group at the date of the meeting last week were four of the 8 Directors,namely,Calvin Hughes,Laurence Kirby,Mike Day and Andrew Morris. Barrie Hipkiss may still assist the group with matchday operational matters. Five people left the group during the first two weeks of April - Neil Young and Mark Howell on the 2nd April 2018 and Steve Jones,Bernard Concannon and Martin Williams on or immediately after the 11th April,"carparkgate" proving to be the final straw for the last three. All five of the aforementioned left with a very heavy heart. Whether I have any knowledge of football is entirely for others to judge,but Messrs Young,Howell,Jones and Concannon have a vast amount of football knowledge between them,both first team and academy, and their departures were hammer blows to the football working group in my opinion. Neil Young should never have been allowed to leave when he did in my opinion. The Board decided sometime in late March that they were not going to extend the contract of Marcus Bignot. I and indeed others on the football working group advised against retaining the previous manager after the requested decision date of 31st March 2018. I suggested that they could then immediately start the process of getting a new head coach in by the end of the season. I also suggested that Neil Young and Calum McIntyre would make good caretakers for the final half a dozen games. However,the decision was taken to retain the previous manager after the 31st March,leading unfortunately to the ensuing mayhem caused by the departures of two conference north winning managers in rapid succession on 2nd April and 11th April,the latter of which was particularly disgraceful in the way it was handled in my personal opinion. I sincerely hope that Marcus Bignot has received a personal apology;also that he finds success in the future. We have to move on and try to learn from the mistakes made,and I have made very many myself over the years. I remain a very dedicated supporter of the football club as I have been for over 52 years now and hope that a good managerial choice is made and things will now start to stabilise after a chaotic last 3 months at the club. Sounds very much like we "continue to fiddle while Rome burns" where the FWG is concerned.
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Post by billyw on Apr 23, 2018 12:01:26 GMT
It seems there is a very serious problem within this club which needs rooting out if the club has to have any chance of survival. Those resigning owe the owners an explanation as to the cause of the problem and if this means publicly pointing the finger at the person responsible, so be it. Our position is too precarious for niceties, cover-ups and good people resigning. Charlie Croesdale warned us - does anyone think he was wrong?
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Post by trev on Apr 23, 2018 12:23:40 GMT
A question was asked at the CFU meeting about who the current members of the Football working group are and reference has been made on here to the notes of the CFU meeting on 8th March 2018. This list is now out of date. 7 days may be a long time in politices;it can be a very long time indeed at Chester FC. As far as I am aware(but please confirm the current position with the club)the members of the football working group at the date of the meeting last week were four of the 8 Directors,namely,Calvin Hughes,Laurence Kirby,Mike Day and Andrew Morris. Barrie Hipkiss may still assist the group with matchday operational matters. Five people left the group during the first two weeks of April - Neil Young and Mark Howell on the 2nd April 2018 and Steve Jones,Bernard Concannon and Martin Williams on or immediately after the 11th April,"carparkgate" proving to be the final straw for the last three. All five of the aforementioned left with a very heavy heart. Whether I have any knowledge of football is entirely for others to judge,but Messrs Young,Howell,Jones and Concannon have a vast amount of football knowledge between them,both first team and academy, and their departures were hammer blows to the football working group in my opinion. Neil Young should never have been allowed to leave when he did in my opinion. The Board decided sometime in late March that they were not going to extend the contract of Marcus Bignot. I and indeed others on the football working group advised against retaining the previous manager after the requested decision date of 31st March 2018. I suggested that they could then immediately start the process of getting a new head coach in by the end of the season. I also suggested that Neil Young and Calum McIntyre would make good caretakers for the final half a dozen games. However,the decision was taken to retain the previous manager after the 31st March,leading unfortunately to the ensuing mayhem caused by the departures of two conference north winning managers in rapid succession on 2nd April and 11th April,the latter of which was particularly disgraceful in the way it was handled in my personal opinion. I sincerely hope that Marcus Bignot has received a personal apology;also that he finds success in the future. We have to move on and try to learn from the mistakes made,and I have made very many myself over the years. I remain a very dedicated supporter of the football club as I have been for over 52 years now and hope that a good managerial choice is made and things will now start to stabilise after a chaotic last 3 months at the club. A damning indictment of how the club is being run right now.
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Post by navajo on Apr 23, 2018 14:37:39 GMT
A question was asked at the CFU meeting about who the current members of the Football working group are and reference has been made on here to the notes of the CFU meeting on 8th March 2018. This list is now out of date. 7 days may be a long time in politices;it can be a very long time indeed at Chester FC. As far as I am aware(but please confirm the current position with the club)the members of the football working group at the date of the meeting last week were four of the 8 Directors,namely,Calvin Hughes,Laurence Kirby,Mike Day and Andrew Morris. Barrie Hipkiss may still assist the group with matchday operational matters. Five people left the group during the first two weeks of April - Neil Young and Mark Howell on the 2nd April 2018 and Steve Jones,Bernard Concannon and Martin Williams on or immediately after the 11th April,"carparkgate" proving to be the final straw for the last three. All five of the aforementioned left with a very heavy heart. Whether I have any knowledge of football is entirely for others to judge,but Messrs Young,Howell,Jones and Concannon have a vast amount of football knowledge between them,both first team and academy, and their departures were hammer blows to the football working group in my opinion. Neil Young should never have been allowed to leave when he did in my opinion. The Board decided sometime in late March that they were not going to extend the contract of Marcus Bignot. I and indeed others on the football working group advised against retaining the previous manager after the requested decision date of 31st March 2018. I suggested that they could then immediately start the process of getting a new head coach in by the end of the season. I also suggested that Neil Young and Calum McIntyre would make good caretakers for the final half a dozen games. However,the decision was taken to retain the previous manager after the 31st March,leading unfortunately to the ensuing mayhem caused by the departures of two conference north winning managers in rapid succession on 2nd April and 11th April,the latter of which was particularly disgraceful in the way it was handled in my personal opinion. I sincerely hope that Marcus Bignot has received a personal apology;also that he finds success in the future. We have to move on and try to learn from the mistakes made,and I have made very many myself over the years. I remain a very dedicated supporter of the football club as I have been for over 52 years now and hope that a good managerial choice is made and things will now start to stabilise after a chaotic last 3 months at the club. Worrying! Very worrying! The current make up of FWG seems a joke. Not one person on there has any football experience, even the much maligned Calvin Hughes for all his bluster about being the academy head and club secrtary previously has demonstrated that he is sadly lacking in football knowledge. Currently at the club the "football people" fulltime headcount is desperately low. Calum and Jimmy are possibly about it. The fact Calum isn't involved on and probably should be heading up the FWG is scandalous. Reading Martin's makes me feel under current stewardship the FWG is leading us on a road to nowhere.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 23, 2018 15:38:12 GMT
Can anyone confirm if the statement I have just read on the chronicle is correct?
Apparently supporters direct did an independent financial review into the club's finances. And have subsequently commended the board for protecting the reserve.
Does this mean we still have the 100k rainy day fund?
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Post by superman on Apr 23, 2018 15:47:44 GMT
A question was asked at the CFU meeting about who the current members of the Football working group are and reference has been made on here to the notes of the CFU meeting on 8th March 2018. This list is now out of date. 7 days may be a long time in politices;it can be a very long time indeed at Chester FC. As far as I am aware(but please confirm the current position with the club)the members of the football working group at the date of the meeting last week were four of the 8 Directors,namely,Calvin Hughes,Laurence Kirby,Mike Day and Andrew Morris. Barrie Hipkiss may still assist the group with matchday operational matters. Five people left the group during the first two weeks of April - Neil Young and Mark Howell on the 2nd April 2018 and Steve Jones,Bernard Concannon and Martin Williams on or immediately after the 11th April,"carparkgate" proving to be the final straw for the last three. All five of the aforementioned left with a very heavy heart. Whether I have any knowledge of football is entirely for others to judge,but Messrs Young,Howell,Jones and Concannon have a vast amount of football knowledge between them,both first team and academy, and their departures were hammer blows to the football working group in my opinion. Neil Young should never have been allowed to leave when he did in my opinion. The Board decided sometime in late March that they were not going to extend the contract of Marcus Bignot. I and indeed others on the football working group advised against retaining the previous manager after the requested decision date of 31st March 2018. I suggested that they could then immediately start the process of getting a new head coach in by the end of the season. I also suggested that Neil Young and Calum McIntyre would make good caretakers for the final half a dozen games. However,the decision was taken to retain the previous manager after the 31st March,leading unfortunately to the ensuing mayhem caused by the departures of two conference north winning managers in rapid succession on 2nd April and 11th April,the latter of which was particularly disgraceful in the way it was handled in my personal opinion. I sincerely hope that Marcus Bignot has received a personal apology;also that he finds success in the future. We have to move on and try to learn from the mistakes made,and I have made very many myself over the years. I remain a very dedicated supporter of the football club as I have been for over 52 years now and hope that a good managerial choice is made and things will now start to stabilise after a chaotic last 3 months at the club. Worrying! Very worrying! The current make up of FWG seems a joke. Not one person on there has any football experience, even the much maligned Calvin Hughes for all his bluster about being the academy head and club secrtary previously has demonstrated that he is sadly lacking in football knowledge. Currently at the club the "football people" fulltime headcount is desperately low. Calum and Jimmy are possibly about it. The fact Calum isn't involved on and probably should be heading up the FWG is scandalous. Reading Martin's makes me feel under current stewardship the FWG is leading us on a road to nowhere. Worrying indeed sounds like a total disconnect between volunteers and board members. Why do we need 4 board members on one group? Until we get rid of the control freak(s) we will keep having the same issues. They keep saying they have got things wrong but stubbornly don't do anything to change so who in their right minds with genuine football knowledge would now step up to help them? Group needs a total revamp. However genuine the intentions of the current group are they have failed to demonstrate that they are fit for purpose.
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 23, 2018 15:59:31 GMT
Can anyone confirm if the statement I have just read on the chronicle is correct? Apparently supporters direct did an independent financial review into the club's finances. And have subsequently commended the board for protecting the reserve. Does this mean we still have the 100k rainy day fund? Yes, yes they did, and no you are incorrect there. SD mentioned we preserved the 105k contingency fund well up until this season and agreed that we were too optimistic in our budgeting for this season, particularly in our commercial targets.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 23, 2018 16:29:53 GMT
Can anyone confirm if the statement I have just read on the chronicle is correct? Apparently supporters direct did an independent financial review into the club's finances. And have subsequently commended the board for protecting the reserve. Does this mean we still have the 100k rainy day fund? Yes, yes they did, and no you are incorrect there. SD mentioned we preserved the 105k contingency fund well up until this season and agreed that we were too optimistic in our budgeting for this season, particularly in our commercial targets. So what 'reserve' are supporters direct commending us for protecting through these tough times?
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Apr 23, 2018 16:33:56 GMT
Yes, yes they did, and no you are incorrect there. SD mentioned we preserved the 105k contingency fund well up until this season and agreed that we were too optimistic in our budgeting for this season, particularly in our commercial targets. So what 'reserve' are supporters direct commending us for protecting through these tough times? They aren’t. They’re commending us on having a reserve in place which we could use when tough times arise, which they have done, and the reserve has been subsequently used.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 23, 2018 16:35:37 GMT
So what 'reserve' are supporters direct commending us for protecting through these tough times? They aren’t. They’re commending us on having a reserve in place which we could use when tough times arise, which they have done, and the reserve has been subsequently used. Ok thanks. It's a strange thing to mention in the chronicle report then.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Apr 23, 2018 16:36:42 GMT
They aren’t. They’re commending us on having a reserve in place which we could use when tough times arise, which they have done, and the reserve has been subsequently used. Ok thanks. It's a strange thing to mention in the chronicle report then. No problem. Yeah, I agree it isn’t worded as clearly as it could be.
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Post by btb on Apr 23, 2018 16:41:47 GMT
Must admit I was confused by the wording too but I took it as it had been used cus obviously it had. We really could do with some sort of financial update.
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Post by billyw on Apr 23, 2018 17:08:52 GMT
Worrying! Very worrying! The current make up of FWG seems a joke. Not one person on there has any football experience, even the much maligned Calvin Hughes for all his bluster about being the academy head and club secrtary previously has demonstrated that he is sadly lacking in football knowledge. Currently at the club the "football people" fulltime headcount is desperately low. Calum and Jimmy are possibly about it. The fact Calum isn't involved on and probably should be heading up the FWG is scandalous. Reading Martin's makes me feel under current stewardship the FWG is leading us on a road to nowhere. Worrying indeed sounds like a total disconnect between volunteers and board members. Why do we need 4 board members on one group? Until we get rid of the control freak(s) we will keep having the same issues. They keep saying they have got things wrong but stubbornly don't do anything to change so who in their right minds with genuine football knowledge would now step up to help them? Group needs a total revamp. However genuine the intentions of the current group are they have failed to demonstrate that they are fit for purpose. Agreed.
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Post by Matt on Apr 23, 2018 17:22:15 GMT
This Football Working Group is poison. Calvin Hughes has got his claws in very quickly but was only co-opted 4 months ago? who co-opted him in and when are the next elections?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 23, 2018 17:23:36 GMT
This Football Working Group is poison. Calvin Hughes has got his claws in very quickly but was only co-opted 4 months ago? who co-opted him in and when are the next elections? Co-opted by the board. Elections will be at the AGM, normally October/November.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 23, 2018 17:26:23 GMT
Why don't the volunteers who have quit recently come out and be specific as to their reasons for doing so?
If there's a common theme then we can force them out before the AGM
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Post by Deva Chanter on Apr 23, 2018 17:27:02 GMT
This Football Working Group is poison. Calvin Hughes has got his claws in very quickly but was only co-opted 4 months ago? who co-opted him in and when are the next elections? The next elections will be held at the AGM on the 27th of September 2018. Calvin Hughes, Jeff Banks and Laurence Kirby are the three board members whose positions will be up for election - they of course will have the choice of whether to stand or not.
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Post by billyw on Apr 23, 2018 18:19:23 GMT
Why don't the volunteers who have quit recently come out and be specific as to their reasons for doing so? If there's a common theme then we can force them out before the AGM Exactly the point I was trying to make - now is not the time for pussyfooting about.
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Post by paulie on Apr 23, 2018 18:25:08 GMT
Why don't the volunteers who have quit recently come out and be specific as to their reasons for doing so? If there's a common theme then we can force them out before the AGM This is what pisses me off, how many directors/ chairman have stepped down with no reason or "personal circumstances" just grow a back bone and tell it how it is!
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Post by paulie on Apr 23, 2018 18:26:13 GMT
This Football Working Group is poison. Calvin Hughes has got his claws in very quickly but was only co-opted 4 months ago? who co-opted him in and when are the next elections? Pretty much makes a mockery of the voting process. Members decide not to vote Calvin on to the board, the board decide to co-opt him on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 18:52:49 GMT
This Football Working Group is poison. Calvin Hughes has got his claws in very quickly but was only co-opted 4 months ago? who co-opted him in and when are the next elections? Pretty much makes a mockery of the voting process. Members decide not to vote Calvin on to the board, the board decide to co-opt him on. To be fair, he was co-opted on in January along with a few others who stepped up to try and pick up the pieces left by the previous board members that we voted in. Wasn't exactly a long line of people stepping up in January and those that did were all co-opted by what was left of the board.
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Post by eltonblues on Apr 23, 2018 20:01:49 GMT
A question was asked at the CFU meeting about who the current members of the Football working group are and reference has been made on here to the notes of the CFU meeting on 8th March 2018. This list is now out of date. 7 days may be a long time in politices;it can be a very long time indeed at Chester FC. As far as I am aware(but please confirm the current position with the club)the members of the football working group at the date of the meeting last week were four of the 8 Directors,namely,Calvin Hughes,Laurence Kirby,Mike Day and Andrew Morris. Barrie Hipkiss may still assist the group with matchday operational matters. Five people left the group during the first two weeks of April - Neil Young and Mark Howell on the 2nd April 2018 and Steve Jones,Bernard Concannon and Martin Williams on or immediately after the 11th April,"carparkgate" proving to be the final straw for the last three. All five of the aforementioned left with a very heavy heart. Whether I have any knowledge of football is entirely for others to judge,but Messrs Young,Howell,Jones and Concannon have a vast amount of football knowledge between them,both first team and academy, and their departures were hammer blows to the football working group in my opinion. Neil Young should never have been allowed to leave when he did in my opinion. The Board decided sometime in late March that they were not going to extend the contract of Marcus Bignot. I and indeed others on the football working group advised against retaining the previous manager after the requested decision date of 31st March 2018. I suggested that they could then immediately start the process of getting a new head coach in by the end of the season. I also suggested that Neil Young and Calum McIntyre would make good caretakers for the final half a dozen games. However,the decision was taken to retain the previous manager after the 31st March,leading unfortunately to the ensuing mayhem caused by the departures of two conference north winning managers in rapid succession on 2nd April and 11th April,the latter of which was particularly disgraceful in the way it was handled in my personal opinion. I sincerely hope that Marcus Bignot has received a personal apology;also that he finds success in the future. We have to move on and try to learn from the mistakes made,and I have made very many myself over the years. I remain a very dedicated supporter of the football club as I have been for over 52 years now and hope that a good managerial choice is made and things will now start to stabilise after a chaotic last 3 months at the club. Sigh, will this ever get sorted. I am not one for voting on every little item but surely something as big as the fundamental structure of the club should be put to the members? I would suggest that having 4 board members on a working group allows for their agenda to be pushed through the board meetings and this should set the governance alarm bells ringing?
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Apr 23, 2018 21:37:41 GMT
I keep on saying it - none of those culpable for the string of disastrous decisions last year should have any role our future running, be it on the board, on this totally untrustworthy FWG or both.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 23, 2018 22:31:43 GMT
I keep on saying it - none of those culpable for the string of disastrous decisions last year should have any role our future running, be it on the board, on this totally untrustworthy FWG or both. But who else is there? I think it’s a bit of an extreme reaction to say none of them at all should have anything to do with the club’s running. Collectively they didn’t do enough but there’s only so much one person can do.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Apr 24, 2018 6:07:44 GMT
I keep on saying it - none of those culpable for the string of disastrous decisions last year should have any role our future running, be it on the board, on this totally untrustworthy FWG or both. But who else is there? I think it’s a bit of an extreme reaction to say none of them at all should have anything to do with the club’s running. Collectively they didn’t do enough but there’s only so much one person can do. Seems to me though that with some of the same people in charge, issues still don't seem to be going away. It's a bit short sighted to think our problems boil down to not doing enough as you said. I've long had the impression that some have a 'my way or the highway' approach to running things. This isn't how a fan owned club should be and we must not accept it.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 24, 2018 7:01:35 GMT
But who else is there? I think it’s a bit of an extreme reaction to say none of them at all should have anything to do with the club’s running. Collectively they didn’t do enough but there’s only so much one person can do. Seems to me though that with some of the same people in charge, issues still don't seem to be going away. It's a bit short sighted to think our problems boil down to not doing enough as you said. I've long had the impression that some have a 'my way or the highway' approach to running things. This isn't how a fan owned club should be and we must not accept it. Would agree that there are certain people I don't have much confidence in and some of the recent decision making has been awful. Poor gates are a regular excuse for lack of progress and I can sympathise with that, but some of the recent carry-ons have been nothing to do with that at all. It's hard to know what to do sometimes - I don't want to be unreasonable and I'm conscious that a drastic "sack them all" approach where people are made guilty by association will whittle down the numbers of people we have left and put anyone off applying. At the same time, if things are clearly not right, it seems negligent to just stand by and not question it.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 24, 2018 7:16:05 GMT
Paul Baker spoke well imo opinion about the full time/part time issue and failed to convince CH.
Would he apply to join the board ~~~ would imagine he's far more experience than the current incumbents.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Apr 24, 2018 8:41:35 GMT
With the AGM in September i think it gives us the perfect opportunity to give this new setup the chance to rebuild and judge when we'll be 2 months into the season and vote accordingly.
A strategic document setting out the clubs aim/objectives and (perhaps most importantly) giving clarity on the setup and accountability will be released which will allow fans to then consider how the club performs in the coming months in each area. They can then vote on either the incumbent remaining because of good progress or indeed voting for another.
The document should also allow prospective candidates to identify clearly what they can bring to the board in regards to which specific area they feel they can bring value - be it commercial / fundraising / governance etc.
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