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Post by superman on Apr 24, 2018 14:12:52 GMT
Just to put Harrisons time at Hartlepool into perspective. The budget he was given probably went on paying the existing squad members from the previous season who stayed with the club after relegation. All his arrivals were free transfers. Our off field problems paled into insignificance compared to theirs (£1m+ debts, HRMC threats, club for sale etc). Take his time at Hartlepool out of the equation and he does indeed tick all the boxes of the selection criteria. More to the point has he actually applied? He was originally from the North East and would he want to come back here? It appears that Davis and Barrow did not apply, although unlikely I would have loved to see the full list of applicants. Very true, Hartlepool were a bigger basket case than us. If this time last year we had sacked McCarthy and one of the candidates to replace him had been Craig Harrison I expect the reaction from many on here would have been much different.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 24, 2018 14:30:04 GMT
Steve Davis hasn’t applied... gutted.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 16:14:22 GMT
Sharps now 4/1 3rd fav
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 24, 2018 16:24:37 GMT
CAn you please put the odds up or advise which firm is running a book on us. For what’s it’s worth imo if sadly Davis hasn’t applied then it’s heath or take a chance on sharps. Whilst heath isn’t local local he has a good record at conference north level. Not sure CH is the answer
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Post by Al on Apr 24, 2018 16:27:48 GMT
CAn you please put the odds up or advise which firm is running a book on us. For what’s it’s worth imo if sadly Davis hasn’t applied then it’s heath or take a chance on sharps. Whilst heath isn’t local local he has a good record at conference north level. Not sure CH is the answer I'd rather not have Heath tbh
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 16:38:31 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 24, 2018 16:39:15 GMT
I'll be honest, I don't want a manager to get us straight back out of the Conference North at the first time of asking, which is the only thing going for Heath. The reason being we will most likely be back where we are now, off the field.
Do what we should've done the last time we were in this division and build the club, IMO. The chasing the dream has crippled us once, I would rather have a club for the future generations of our fanbase.
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Post by Charfield Blue on Apr 24, 2018 16:56:41 GMT
I'll be honest, I don't want a manager to get us straight back out of the Conference North at the first time of asking, which is the only thing going for Heath. The reason being we will most likely be back where we are now, off the field. Do what we should've done the last time we were in this division and build the club, IMO. The chasing the dream has crippled us once, I would rather have a club for the future generations of our fanbase. Like we get to choose. I'll settle for being competitive and avoiding relegation next season. It's going to be tuff.
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Post by sqzl on Apr 24, 2018 17:04:38 GMT
I remember CH as a player with Palace and Preston; how big a job did he do with TNS, how difficult a job was it to win the Welsh League - what sort of money did he have to play with and would he manage with what looks like being a very small budget if he gets the job? had a smaller budget at Hartlepool he wasn't up to it there Absolutely false, we have a way smaller budget than they had this season. For what it's worth bookies odds change based on bets placed. Stick a few quid on Wenger and he'll appear as an outside bet.
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Post by Harry Lime on Apr 24, 2018 17:11:01 GMT
Just to put Harrisons time at Hartlepool into perspective. The budget he was given probably went on paying the existing squad members from the previous season who stayed with the club after relegation. All his arrivals were free transfers. Our off field problems paled into insignificance compared to theirs (£1m+ debts, HRMC threats, club for sale etc). Take his time at Hartlepool out of the equation and he does indeed tick all the boxes of the selection criteria. More to the point has he actually applied? He was originally from the North East and would he want to come back here? It appears that Davis and Barrow did not apply, although unlikely I would have loved to see the full list of applicants. I think most of the big earners Harrison inherited were signed by Ronnie Moore. Harrison to Hartlepool may have been wrong place at the wrong time. Might be unfair to blame him for their season. A bit like blaming Bignot for ours. Let's face it the obvious candidates are dropping like flies. We may well end up with someone who has never managed at all in Sharps. No one will tick all the boxes. Sharps has no managerial experience. Redfearn isn't local and no recent none league experience. Harrison might not be everyone's ideal choice, but he does tick more boxes than most. Hopefully an interview candidate will turn up with a list of players he can bring in, within budget. That might do it!
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 24, 2018 17:13:21 GMT
Would be the best of those listed if he has applied.
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Post by MOC on Apr 24, 2018 17:57:33 GMT
Think we have to realistically accept that whoever gets the job is likely to have a question mark against their record, whether it be due to how things panned out in their last job or their managerial inexperience. Harrison isn’t someone I’m desperate to see get the job but, as has been said, he ticks more boxes than certain other names mentioned.
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Post by ivawhopper on Apr 24, 2018 19:02:45 GMT
I’d be happy with Sharps, Roger Franklyn is an outside bet for me and I really hope it’s not Harrison
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 24, 2018 19:10:57 GMT
CAn you please put the odds up or advise which firm is running a book on us. For what’s it’s worth imo if sadly Davis hasn’t applied then it’s heath or take a chance on sharps. Whilst heath isn’t local local he has a good record at conference north level. Not sure CH is the answer I'd rather not have Heath tbh I’m not sure heath is the one to lead us forward either. His track record is ok at conf north level. Wouldn’t be against sharps. Whoever it is is a risk but we would be giving sharps a chance based on those few games. Al what do you not like about heath being our next boss?
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Post by Al on Apr 24, 2018 19:22:40 GMT
I'd rather not have Heath tbh I’m not sure heath is the one to lead us forward either. His track record is ok at conf north level. Wouldn’t be against sharps. Whoever it is is a risk but we would be giving sharps a chance based on those few games. Al what do you not like about heath being our next boss? Long ball merchant. Goes against the way I believe the game should be played
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 24, 2018 19:49:43 GMT
Fair enough Al Halifax as I remember were solid, hardly inspiring to watch but affective and got the job done. Whilst I agree with your principal conference north won’t be an easy league to play football in
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Post by Neil Fishers Biggest Fan on Apr 24, 2018 21:36:55 GMT
Is it true Calvin Hughes is 6-1 to become manager?
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Post by devablue on Apr 24, 2018 21:55:17 GMT
Is it true Calvin Hughes is 6-1 to become manager? 20 on betvictor
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Post by steveo1 on Apr 24, 2018 22:36:54 GMT
I really don’t care about style of football. We sound like West Ham fans, it’s embarrasing.
A winning team will do me thanks.
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Post by norwegianblue on Apr 24, 2018 22:53:28 GMT
I really don’t care about style of football. We sound like West Ham fans, it’s embarrasing. A winning team will do me thanks. Exactly. Winning games ≥ Bums on seats ≥ Money = Survival
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Post by Al on Apr 25, 2018 3:59:00 GMT
I really don’t care about style of football. We sound like West Ham fans, it’s embarrasing. A winning team will do me thanks. Exactly. Winning games ≥ Bums on seats ≥ Money = Survival Not just as simple as that is it lads. We won games those first 3 years and what happened? Did gates go up year on year? No. Winning games in any old way is not enough to attract new blood to the club. We need to rebuild an ageing fanbase, and that won't happen by playing negative boring football week in week out. West Ham fans are dicks, we need to think about more than just the same old "win and they will come" mentality. It needs more thought behind it than that
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 25, 2018 5:58:14 GMT
Exactly. Winning games ≥ Bums on seats ≥ Money = Survival Not just as simple as that is it lads. We won games those first 3 years and what happened? Did gates go up year on year? No. Winning games in any old way is not enough to attract new blood to the club. We need to rebuild an ageing fanbase, and that won't happen by playing negative boring football week in week out. West Ham fans are dicks, we need to think about more than just the same old "win and they will come" mentality. It needs more thought behind it than that So are their players. Well Julian was one... The lower pricing is the start, the board need to continue bringing the club back to the fans. That means treating everyone the same and getting rid of the legends lounge. We need to dare to be different. No segregation between our own fanbase and this could be the very start of something good again
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Post by Al on Apr 25, 2018 6:01:13 GMT
Not just as simple as that is it lads. We won games those first 3 years and what happened? Did gates go up year on year? No. Winning games in any old way is not enough to attract new blood to the club. We need to rebuild an ageing fanbase, and that won't happen by playing negative boring football week in week out. West Ham fans are dicks, we need to think about more than just the same old "win and they will come" mentality. It needs more thought behind it than that So are their players. Well Julian was one... The lower pricing is the start, the board need to continue bringing the club back to the fans. That means trameating everyone the same and getting rid of the legends lounge. We need to dare to be different. No segregation between our own fanbase and this could be the very start of something good again Don't be daft. How can you get rid of the LL? Matchday Sponsorship, Programme Sponsorship, stand and club sponsors all use it and pay a significant sum into the club for doing so. How would you make up for the financial shortfall?
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 25, 2018 6:04:47 GMT
So are their players. Well Julian was one... The lower pricing is the start, the board need to continue bringing the club back to the fans. That means trameating everyone the same and getting rid of the legends lounge. We need to dare to be different. No segregation between our own fanbase and this could be the very start of something good again Don't be daft. How can you get rid of the LL? Matchday Sponsorship, Programme Sponsorship, stand and club sponsors all use it and pay a significant sum into the club for doing so. How would you make up for the financial shortfall? Treat all fans like legends and we will get more people into the stadium on matchday It's this elitism attitude from the club which has got us into this mess imo. Players and board officials should be mixing with all fans pre and post match and not just the people who pay more
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Post by Al on Apr 25, 2018 6:08:12 GMT
Don't be daft. How can you get rid of the LL? Matchday Sponsorship, Programme Sponsorship, stand and club sponsors all use it and pay a significant sum into the club for doing so. How would you make up for the financial shortfall? Treat all fans like legends and we will get more people into the stadium on matchday It's this elitism attitude from the club which has got us into this mess imo. Players and board officials should be mixing with all fans pre and post match and not just the people who pay more Board members do. You never seen them in the Blues Bar? Like I said, you'd scrap the matchday and programme sponsorship packages then? Every club has hospitality, every single one. It brings good money into the club. I couldn't give a shit who goes up there as long as it brings money in tbh
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Post by Oaks Blue on Apr 25, 2018 6:12:26 GMT
Treat all fans like legends and we will get more people into the stadium on matchday It's this elitism attitude from the club which has got us into this mess imo. Players and board officials should be mixing with all fans pre and post match and not just the people who pay more Board members do. You never seen them in the Blues Bar? Like I said, you'd scrap the matchday and programme sponsorship packages then? Every club has hospitality, every single one. It brings good money into the club. I couldn't give a shit who goes up there as long as it brings money in tbh How much?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 25, 2018 6:25:17 GMT
Going back to the style of play I personally believe we need to adopt a model that feeds through into the Academy and junior teams. Suspect hoofball probably doesn't work considering the type of football we played on Saturday which was easy on the eye.
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Post by agl on Apr 25, 2018 7:41:24 GMT
I really don’t care about style of football. We sound like West Ham fans, it’s embarrasing. A winning team will do me thanks. Absolutely. Makes me chuckle that some people are demanding total football from the likes of Kingsley and LRT who can't pass a ball five yards.
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Post by Charfield Blue on Apr 25, 2018 7:46:55 GMT
I'm not sure a direct, physical approach fits in with developing our academy graduates and having a predominantly under 23 squad. Nathan Brown wouldn't get a game for starters.
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Post by jb on Apr 25, 2018 9:11:23 GMT
I really don’t care about style of football. We sound like West Ham fans, it’s embarrasing. A winning team will do me thanks. Too right. Our Conference winning team was hardly tiki-taka and was made up of big strong lads like Guyett, Bolland, Collins, Carden and Stamp who would roll their sleeves up and fight for the cause. Yes we had flair players like Clare and Smith/Twiss but we didn't win games 4 - 0 and 5 - 0 every week because if you try and play football in the Conference and Conference North you get kicked up in the air. Would the Conference winning team have conceded every week on corners and set-pieces like this lot have done this season? No, and that's why they were so hard to beat. We need to go back to basics and Heath appears to have the right approach for Conference football. Let's get hard to beat because for the past five seasons we've been pretty easy to beat and a defeat is far more common than a win.
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