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Post by livinginhope on Mar 18, 2017 21:22:48 GMT
As I'm a boring bugger with nothing better to do on a Saturday night, I thought I'd look at the difference in results between having Sharps or Iwelumo as assistant for league games thus far.
With Sharps: P19 W7 D6 L6 GF28 GA23 Average points per game: 1.42
With Iwelumo: P17 W5 D4 L8 GF26 GA28 Average points per game: 1.12
We are now scoring slightly more goals per game than with Sharps but conceding 1.64 goals per game as opposed to 1.21 goals per game. His defensive input has been badly missed and as McCarthy was a winger himself I worry where the defensive knowledge is coming from.
I also looked at the teams we played against. From the current league table standings, with Sharps the average opposition league position was 11.7 and under Iwelumo is 13.1. So we have had "easier" games with Iwelumo, although this stat is a bit misleading as it's not the league position the opposition were in at the time.
Make of the stats what you will, what I do know is that I need to get a life!
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Post by steveo1 on Mar 18, 2017 21:25:58 GMT
I think Iwelumo has only been present for about 25,per cent of the games.
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Post by Anders on Mar 19, 2017 1:02:25 GMT
I just don’t like the situation we’ve found ourselves in, pretty much most of the time not having an assistant manager there on match days, it’s in no way ideal. It’s all well and good some people saying you only mention it when we lose, but that’s pretty much all we’re doing now. I was standing there on the touchline at Maidstone watching the goals raining in and seeing Macca turning around looking blank at Jimmy Soul and Calumn McIntyre. Nothing against those guys personally, but fucking hell, that’s what we’ve been reduced to. There’s nobody to tell Macca otherwise, nobody to bounce ideas off, nobody to give them a bollocking when needed, nobody to stand tall alongside him.
I wouldn’t criticise Iwelumo personally, this was agreed, he’s doing nothing wrong and seems a decent bloke. I just don’t like what we’ve agreed to. I will say if I were him I’d probably try and go about my business in a slightly cuter manner rather than advertising all over twitter what I was up to otherwise, but maybe that’s just my preferred style.
Noticed Tom Shaw doing a bit of pointing and shouting on the touchline today, he’s shown good leadership qualities when given the armband this season. Think I’d at least consider offering him some sort of player assistant manager role for his new deal?
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Post by border collie on Mar 19, 2017 2:38:41 GMT
I just don’t like the situation we’ve found ourselves in, pretty much most of the time not having an assistant manager there on match days, it’s in no way ideal. It’s all well and good some people saying you only mention it when we lose, but that’s pretty much all we’re doing now. I was standing there on the touchline at Maidstone watching the goals raining in and seeing Macca turning around looking blank at Jimmy Soul and Calumn McIntyre. Nothing against those guys personally, but fucking hell, that’s what we’ve been reduced to. There’s nobody to tell Macca otherwise, nobody to bounce ideas off, nobody to give them a bollocking when needed, nobody to stand tall alongside him. I wouldn’t criticise Iwelumo personally, this was agreed, he’s doing nothing wrong and seems a decent bloke. I just don’t like what we’ve agreed to. I will say if I were him I’d probably try and go about my business in a slightly cuter manner rather than advertising all over twitter what I was up to otherwise, but maybe that’s just my preferred style. Noticed Tom Shaw doing a bit of pointing and shouting on the touchline today, he’s shown good leadership qualities when given the armband this season. Think I’d at least consider offering him some sort of player assistant manager role for his new deal? Eventually ,one way or the other results will dictate . But offering a 2 and a half year contract to an unproven manager at any level is risky at best ,utter madness at worst . Paying a manager off at 2 and a half years would extinguish the 80000 pounds we have in the bank . As for the argument about Sharps it is frankly irrelevant as he has gone ,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 12:02:49 GMT
I just don’t like the situation we’ve found ourselves in, pretty much most of the time not having an assistant manager there on match days, it’s in no way ideal. It’s all well and good some people saying you only mention it when we lose, but that’s pretty much all we’re doing now. I was standing there on the touchline at Maidstone watching the goals raining in and seeing Macca turning around looking blank at Jimmy Soul and Calumn McIntyre. Nothing against those guys personally, but fucking hell, that’s what we’ve been reduced to. There’s nobody to tell Macca otherwise, nobody to bounce ideas off, nobody to give them a bollocking when needed, nobody to stand tall alongside him. I wouldn’t criticise Iwelumo personally, this was agreed, he’s doing nothing wrong and seems a decent bloke. I just don’t like what we’ve agreed to. I will say if I were him I’d probably try and go about my business in a slightly cuter manner rather than advertising all over twitter what I was up to otherwise, but maybe that’s just my preferred style. Noticed Tom Shaw doing a bit of pointing and shouting on the touchline today, he’s shown good leadership qualities when given the armband this season. Think I’d at least consider offering him some sort of player assistant manager role for his new deal? Apologies Anders, didn't realise your comments re. Shaw before I created my thread
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Post by Uninvited on Mar 19, 2017 15:13:48 GMT
I just don’t like the situation we’ve found ourselves in, pretty much most of the time not having an assistant manager there on match days, it’s in no way ideal. It’s all well and good some people saying you only mention it when we lose, but that’s pretty much all we’re doing now. I was standing there on the touchline at Maidstone watching the goals raining in and seeing Macca turning around looking blank at Jimmy Soul and Calumn McIntyre. Nothing against those guys personally, but fucking hell, that’s what we’ve been reduced to. There’s nobody to tell Macca otherwise, nobody to bounce ideas off, nobody to give them a bollocking when needed, nobody to stand tall alongside him. I wouldn’t criticise Iwelumo personally, this was agreed, he’s doing nothing wrong and seems a decent bloke. I just don’t like what we’ve agreed to. I will say if I were him I’d probably try and go about my business in a slightly cuter manner rather than advertising all over twitter what I was up to otherwise, but maybe that’s just my preferred style. Noticed Tom Shaw doing a bit of pointing and shouting on the touchline today, he’s shown good leadership qualities when given the armband this season. Think I’d at least consider offering him some sort of player assistant manager role for his new deal? Although I agree with. 99% of what you've said, if Shaw Is given a player/assistant manager role, McCarthy will Still be in the same boat with regards having nobody on The touchline to bounce ideas off etc, as Shaw will be on the pitch.
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Post by Anders on Mar 19, 2017 17:28:48 GMT
I just don’t like the situation we’ve found ourselves in, pretty much most of the time not having an assistant manager there on match days, it’s in no way ideal. It’s all well and good some people saying you only mention it when we lose, but that’s pretty much all we’re doing now. I was standing there on the touchline at Maidstone watching the goals raining in and seeing Macca turning around looking blank at Jimmy Soul and Calumn McIntyre. Nothing against those guys personally, but fucking hell, that’s what we’ve been reduced to. There’s nobody to tell Macca otherwise, nobody to bounce ideas off, nobody to give them a bollocking when needed, nobody to stand tall alongside him. I wouldn’t criticise Iwelumo personally, this was agreed, he’s doing nothing wrong and seems a decent bloke. I just don’t like what we’ve agreed to. I will say if I were him I’d probably try and go about my business in a slightly cuter manner rather than advertising all over twitter what I was up to otherwise, but maybe that’s just my preferred style. Noticed Tom Shaw doing a bit of pointing and shouting on the touchline today, he’s shown good leadership qualities when given the armband this season. Think I’d at least consider offering him some sort of player assistant manager role for his new deal? Although I agree with. 99% of what you've said, if Shaw Is given a player/assistant manager role, McCarthy will Still be in the same boat with regards having nobody on The touchline to bounce ideas off etc, as Shaw will be on the pitch. Yeah, you’re right, suppose it is a bit contradictory. I was just trying to think of a situation better than what we have now, at least if it happened he’d be there in some capacity was my line of thinking.
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Post by Stadium way on Mar 19, 2017 17:59:18 GMT
If it was up to me i would approach shaun Reid to help out mcarthy.Get some fire in the belly,sadly lacking these days.No real problem with C.I other than he is awol so much.Tough fixtures ahead and the slide needs halting.
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Post by Loyal Blue on Mar 19, 2017 22:29:24 GMT
Iwelumo robbed us of a wage when he tried to play football for us at the end of his career and now he's robbing us as a part time Assistant Manager. His TV commitments are clearly his priority so get rid ASAP. In what other profession would this happen? This is the real world and we are a club with a small budget who can't afford to waste money.
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Post by border collie on Mar 20, 2017 0:00:21 GMT
Iwelumo robbed us of a wage when he tried to play football for us at the end of his career and now he's robbing us as a part time Assistant Manager. His TV commitments are clearly his priority so get rid ASAP. In what other profession would this happen? This is the real world and we are a club with a small budget who can't afford to waste money. Agreed ,would love to know how much we are paying him as he is having no influence on our results
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Post by Never Again on Mar 20, 2017 1:16:40 GMT
Iwelumo is a wage thief who prefers the comfort of a TV studio to actually working in the dugout. Maca is probably afraid that if he had a decent assistant he'd lose his job to him.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Mar 20, 2017 7:28:48 GMT
Maybe we should ask George Osborne if he can coach football, he seems to be at a loose end these days.
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Post by Al on Mar 20, 2017 7:47:43 GMT
I feel for Macca. Chris is letting him down. If he couldn't commit the hours on a match day then he shouldn't have taken the job or he should have taken a coaching job in or around London to work around his TV commitments a bit better.
I believe Chris is on virtually peanuts btw but, as a fan owned and self financing club we need to get as much out of people as we possibly can. I am fed up of seeing Jon on his own in that dugout, if Chris cannot commit to every game between now and the end of the season then he needs to pack it in and let us find someone who can.
Shaun Reid would be excellent in my opinion. He's available, he knows the club and he knows Macca.
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Post by Lobster on Mar 20, 2017 7:57:33 GMT
Can't blame Iwelumo for accepting a job on his terms. His availability will surely have been considered at interview stage, and clearly McCarthy and the club were happy with appointing an assistant who can't make many matches. Ludicrous situation in my opinion, but blame the employer, not the employee.
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Post by steveo1 on Mar 20, 2017 22:29:23 GMT
I ha e stopped watching channel fives football league highlights, makes me sick seeing our assistant manager never in the bench every week.
Ridiculous situation, then we have Tom a Shaw helping this week, stinks of Sunday league.
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Post by Pauline M on Mar 21, 2017 1:31:16 GMT
Doesn't anyone on this board watch Macca's post match interviews? Hard questions from Neil Turner this week but he does address this assistant manager's position and it is interesting!
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Post by Krankie's Ghost on Mar 21, 2017 7:40:42 GMT
Pauline, the only comment he makes is that he works with the defence whilst shaw the midfield, felgate the keepers and iwelumo the strikers. So basically he's being paid to train Alabi.
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Post by Never Again on Mar 21, 2017 13:40:32 GMT
Pauline, the only comment he makes is that he works with the defence whilst shaw the midfield, felgate the keepers and iwelumo the strikers. So basically he's being paid to train Alabi. So Alabi is only being trained part time! Like I said, Iwelumo is being paid to sit in a studio and every now and then say hello to Alabi. Great way to spend the fans money. NOT!
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Post by Stadium way. on Mar 22, 2017 17:37:21 GMT
I went v Eastleigh but missed last night,was iwelumo at the Macc game? Cheers .
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Post by Deva Stated on Mar 22, 2017 17:43:16 GMT
Yes
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Post by Stadium way on Mar 22, 2017 17:50:33 GMT
Thankyou for that info.
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Post by c-p on Mar 22, 2017 19:00:37 GMT
leave chris and jon alone instead of slagging off the team why dont you get to the ground and support the team they both work tiredlessy in training to put things right
you got your wish removing steve burr but you wont get your wish removing jon or chris
so shut up and support the lads and management if not stay away we dont need you at the ground
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Post by Si on Mar 22, 2017 19:21:32 GMT
leave chris and jon alone instead of slagging off the team why dont you get to the ground and support the team they both work tiredlessy in training to put things right you got your wish removing steve burr but you wont get your wish removing jon or chris so shut up and support the lads and management if not stay away we dont need you at the ground C-P......hmm, Chris Pilsbury? I'M not in favour of sacking Macca and he gets my full backing, but Burr totally killed the feel good factor last season, blew the budget on loan signings and we were waltzing towards the Conference North, it was the correct decision. I think we will be fine this season as we have a better team, but the slump is worrying and football fans are fickle so it's only natural people will discuss whether Macca is right for the job.
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Post by Loyal Blue on Mar 22, 2017 22:18:38 GMT
leave chris and jon alone instead of slagging off the team why dont you get to the ground and support the team they both work tiredlessy in training to put things right you got your wish removing steve burr but you wont get your wish removing jon or chris so shut up and support the lads and management if not stay away we dont need you at the ground stop trying to justify Iwelumo you tool. He's taking the club for a ride, for a second time. Wage thief.
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Post by Derry Blue on Mar 22, 2017 23:44:28 GMT
leave chris and jon alone instead of slagging off the team why dont you get to the ground and support the team they both work tiredlessy in training to put things right you got your wish removing steve burr but you wont get your wish removing jon or chris so shut up and support the lads and management if not stay away we dont need you at the ground Please tell me you wrote this as a wind up. If you're serious then I despair.
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Post by Derry Blue on Mar 22, 2017 23:45:38 GMT
Iwelumo is a wage thief who prefers the comfort of a TV studio to actually working in the dugout. Maca is probably afraid that if he had a decent assistant he'd lose his job to him. If things don't turn round soon JM will lose his job to the physio.
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Post by Never Again on Mar 22, 2017 23:58:34 GMT
Iwelumo is a wage thief who prefers the comfort of a TV studio to actually working in the dugout. Maca is probably afraid that if he had a decent assistant he'd lose his job to him. If things don't turn round soon JM will lose his job to the physio. We can but hope!
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Post by c-p on Mar 23, 2017 0:30:39 GMT
leave chris and jon alone instead of slagging off the team why dont you get to the ground and support the team they both work tiredlessy in training to put things right you got your wish removing steve burr but you wont get your wish removing jon or chris so shut up and support the lads and management if not stay away we dont need you at the ground C-P......hmm, Chris Pilsbury? I'M not in favour of sacking Macca and he gets my full backing, but Burr totally killed the feel good factor last season, blew the budget on loan signings and we were waltzing towards the Conference North, it was the correct decision. I think we will be fine this season as we have a better team, but the slump is worrying and football fans are fickle so it's only natural people will discuss whether Macca is right for the job. not chris pilsbury so get your facts right
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Post by c-p on Mar 23, 2017 0:32:08 GMT
leave chris and jon alone instead of slagging off the team why dont you get to the ground and support the team they both work tiredlessy in training to put things right you got your wish removing steve burr but you wont get your wish removing jon or chris so shut up and support the lads and management if not stay away we dont need you at the ground stop trying to justify Iwelumo you tool. He's taking the club for a ride, for a second time. Wage thief. last time you looked in the mirror you looked a tool
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Post by A. N. Other on Mar 23, 2017 0:42:40 GMT
stop trying to justify Iwelumo you tool. He's taking the club for a ride, for a second time. Wage thief. last time you looked in the mirror you looked a tool It's cretins like you talking like that that got the proper DC killed off.
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