|
Post by waggoner on Nov 23, 2018 13:19:48 GMT
More reasons not to be fan owned. It just doesn't work. Neither did private ownershio, we ended up with no club remember? Lol IMO it was not the private ownership model that was the problem, it was the TYPE of owners we had. Barnes started the rot really. Morrisons shand f"""ed us over bigtime. Then there was Mark Guttersnipe. The mad yank bought it out of administration and sold it to Vaughan. No club would have survived a run of shysters like those 'owners'. Conmen only sell to conmen. Fans have little say in who takes over. So the only way to run it is to do it ourselves, no con men, no crooks but sadly no chance of getting into the Football league either
|
|
|
Post by massivefloodlights on Nov 23, 2018 16:24:40 GMT
Fan owned clubs can work. We’re proof of that. Changes in board personnel are part and parcel. We’ve seen members come and go for different reasons over the years. We’ve also seen board members abused.
|
|
|
Post by stavros on Nov 23, 2018 18:17:05 GMT
Genuine question - apologies if the answer is obvious or I should have known, but is there a volunteer coordinator as such? Lots of decent sized third sector organisations have one. Seeing people here, and know of many more who are reticent to be board members due to lack of a particular skill set or time availability (or indeed the abuse) but who want to help. I m just wondering if we harness that right? If we had a volunteer coordinator then surely people would have one point of access whether they could audit accounts for twenty hours a month or could do a bit of painting for a couple of hours a month. It would also serve as a quick distribution list for those shout outs when volunteers are needed to get a game on etc.
This may exist already and I may be being daft, but if it does exist then I don’t know how to front myself up, or that i m welcome to if I have other commitments to manage ... so others may be the same and therefore promoting may be worthwhile ?
|
|
|
Post by everhopeful on Nov 24, 2018 2:54:27 GMT
Neither did private ownershio, we ended up with no club remember? Lol IMO it was not the private ownership model that was the problem, it was the TYPE of owners we had. Barnes started the rot really. Morrisons shand f"""ed us over bigtime. Then there was Mark Guttersnipe. The mad yank bought it out of administration and sold it to Vaughan. No club would have survived a run of shysters like those 'owners'. Conmen only sell to conmen. Fans have little say in who takes over. So the only way to run it is to do it ourselves, no con men, no crooks but sadly no chance of getting into the Football league eitherExeter City aren't doing too badly!!
|
|
|
Post by South Wirral Blue on Nov 24, 2018 7:02:33 GMT
IMO it was not the private ownership model that was the problem, it was the TYPE of owners we had. Barnes started the rot really. Morrisons shand f"""ed us over bigtime. Then there was Mark Guttersnipe. The mad yank bought it out of administration and sold it to Vaughan. No club would have survived a run of shysters like those 'owners'. Conmen only sell to conmen. Fans have little say in who takes over. So the only way to run it is to do it ourselves, no con men, no crooks but sadly no chance of getting into the Football league eitherExeter City aren't doing too badly!! They, like Wrexham, have a proper fanbase behind them. We don't. Fan ownership takes on a whole new dimension if you can get crowds around 3 to 4k throughout the season and then maybe around the 6k mark for big ones. We've only had more than 5k once in the last 10 years and those years include title wins and the likes of Wrexham & Tranmere bringing over 1,200 odd fans. In fact, we still struggled to hit 4k on those derby days nevermind 5 or 6 - it's really embarrassing. While we're mostly getting sub-2,000 crowds as a fan owned club (often way below 2,000 might I add!), we'll never get near properly supported clubs like Exeter.
|
|
|
Post by richard on Nov 24, 2018 10:14:04 GMT
We are facing a possible crisis due to a shortage of Board members. Andrew Morris has confirmed that if one of the members were to resign, we would be unable to satisfy our constitution and the club could fold. The situation regarding the future of the club is claimed to be just as serious as the one earlier in the year. The warning signs are there and we can't say we were unaware of them if the club goes tits up. so instead of criticising Board members there needs to be more supporters willing to be co-opted or stand for election. Good Morning everyone. Just a quick update. We have had a great response from far and wide from individuals who are interested in talking to us about helping at board level. Such is the level of interest, it will take me two or three weeks to see or speak to everyone, look at CV's and gather the level of detail required for the board to make any decisions. I have to say that I am delighted about this. If only two or three of those individuals fit the bill, it will put us in a much better place. Please remember though, we are still looking for new blood for our work groups. They are our life blood. Richard
|
|
|
Post by Hannibal on Nov 24, 2018 10:24:05 GMT
Exeter City aren't doing too badly!! They, like Wrexham, have a proper fanbase behind them. We don't. Fan ownership takes on a whole new dimension if you can get crowds around 3 to 4k throughout the season and then maybe around the 6k mark for big ones. We've only had more than 5k once in the last 10 years and those years include title wins and the likes of Wrexham & Tranmere bringing over 1,200 odd fans. In fact, we still struggled to hit 4k on those derby days nevermind 5 or 6 - it's really embarrassing. While we're mostly getting sub-2,000 crowds as a fan owned club (often way below 2,000 might I add!), we'll never get near properly supported clubs like Exeter. I think those small crowds for 'big games' are more to do with the location and size of the ground and the fact that SAG always take the easy option and make it very difficult for anyone who is less than die hard.
|
|
|
Post by rjshbdhmtrm on Nov 24, 2018 12:01:16 GMT
We are facing a possible crisis due to a shortage of Board members. Andrew Morris has confirmed that if one of the members were to resign, we would be unable to satisfy our constitution and the club could fold. The situation regarding the future of the club is claimed to be just as serious as the one earlier in the year. The warning signs are there and we can't say we were unaware of them if the club goes tits up. so instead of criticising Board members there needs to be more supporters willing to be co-opted or stand for election. Good Morning everyone. Just a quick update. We have had a great response from far and wide from individuals who are interested in talking to us about helping at board level. Such is the level of interest, it will take me two or three weeks to see or speak to everyone, look at CV's and gather the level of detail required for the board to make any decisions. I have to say that I am delighted about this. If only two or three of those individuals fit the bill, it will put us in a much better place. Please remember though, we are still looking for new blood for our work groups. They are our life blood. Richard Brilliant news Richard
|
|
|
Post by happyclapper52 on Nov 24, 2018 13:10:19 GMT
We are facing a possible crisis due to a shortage of Board members. Andrew Morris has confirmed that if one of the members were to resign, we would be unable to satisfy our constitution and the club could fold. The situation regarding the future of the club is claimed to be just as serious as the one earlier in the year. The warning signs are there and we can't say we were unaware of them if the club goes tits up. so instead of criticising Board members there needs to be more supporters willing to be co-opted or stand for election. Good Morning everyone. Just a quick update. We have had a great response from far and wide from individuals who are interested in talking to us about helping at board level. Such is the level of interest, it will take me two or three weeks to see or speak to everyone, look at CV's and gather the level of detail required for the board to make any decisions. I have to say that I am delighted about this. If only two or three of those individuals fit the bill, it will put us in a much better place. Please remember though, we are still looking for new blood for our work groups. They are our life blood. Richard Great news Richard but only 2 responses to your post to date including mine. Imagine if you had bad news? .... the pessimistic posts would be rolling in 😁 Hopefully some of them have now seen the light.Onwards and upwards Blues.
|
|
|
Post by Lobster on Nov 24, 2018 13:13:42 GMT
Good Morning everyone. Just a quick update. We have had a great response from far and wide from individuals who are interested in talking to us about helping at board level. Such is the level of interest, it will take me two or three weeks to see or speak to everyone, look at CV's and gather the level of detail required for the board to make any decisions. I have to say that I am delighted about this. If only two or three of those individuals fit the bill, it will put us in a much better place. Please remember though, we are still looking for new blood for our work groups. They are our life blood. Richard Great news Richard but only 2 responses to your post to date including mine. Imagine if you had bad news? .... the pessimistic posts would be rolling in 😁 Hopefully some of them have now seen the light.Onwards and upwards Blues. He only posted it two hours ago, and there’s only so many ways you can say “that’s good news”. Don’t make a positive into a negative.
|
|
|
Post by Hannibal on Nov 24, 2018 13:25:55 GMT
This board seems to be in a better position than Old Deva Chat in terms of communication with the club and people at board and strategic level and I think it would be a good idea if this became a more formalised arrangement.
|
|