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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 24, 2018 20:34:06 GMT
Dreadful game that. Draw probably a far result but put them under more pressure near the end. Definately needs freshening up a bit. Thompson did quiet well. Stopford MOM Not sure I can stand another 90mins on Tuesday of Southports hoofball abd our moves breaking down, in the final third. Not sure Dawson is what we need? We need a targetman to hold the ball up and bring people, in to play. Agree with that. He maybe a replacement for Mahon or Mooney , when injured, but he's not a no.10. We need someone who can either hold the ball and run the channels, or a creative player who will make runs past the striker. He's neither of those. Strikers win you games, and leagues. There's not much wrong with this team that couldn't be solved with a better strike force. Dudley looks a goal scorer, but he's up there on his own. Our only threat from open play is Mooney cutting in on his left foot.
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Post by tarvinblue on Nov 24, 2018 20:53:45 GMT
Did Mad Macca get any stick? I hope no one was shaking his hand and giving him man hugs.
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 24, 2018 21:19:17 GMT
Did Mad Macca get any stick? I hope no one was shaking his hand and giving him man hugs. No stick and no man hugs. Bet he's looking forward to Tuesday though
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Post by trev on Nov 24, 2018 21:20:52 GMT
Did Mad Macca get any stick? I hope no one was shaking his hand and giving him man hugs. Chester fans were kept a safe distance from Mr Macarthy for any pleasantries being crammed into our bizarrely taped off area at the far end of the stand. He kept a very low profile at the start and end of the game.
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Post by Hannibal on Nov 24, 2018 21:33:40 GMT
XI: Shenton, Thomson, Howson, Livesey, Grand, Roberts, Stopforth, Mooney, Mahon, Dudley, Dawson Subs: Marsh-Hughes, Noble, Jordan, Smalley, Moran I thought Roberts was banned for this one?
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Post by chesterblue80 on Nov 24, 2018 22:15:53 GMT
XI: Shenton, Thomson, Howson, Livesey, Grand, Roberts, Stopforth, Mooney, Mahon, Dudley, Dawson Subs: Marsh-Hughes, Noble, Jordan, Smalley, Moran I thought Roberts was banned for this one? Nope only League games as 5 bookings was in the League
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Nov 24, 2018 22:22:54 GMT
Couldn't go today but they've come in to a decent run of form after a dreadful start and so getting a result there is positive - even if the extra game isn't what we need!!
Hope we go for it on Tuesday night, we've missed out on enough prize money as it is in recent seasons.
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Post by Anders on Nov 24, 2018 22:26:59 GMT
Couldn't go today but they've come in to a decent run of form after a dreadful start and so getting a result there is positive - even if the extra game isn't what we need!! Hope we go for it on Tuesday night, we've missed out on enough prize money as it is in recent seasons. They have hit some form but crikey they were bad (so were we). Worst side we've faced this season.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Nov 24, 2018 23:02:51 GMT
My match highlights:
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Post by MPW on Nov 25, 2018 0:03:29 GMT
When was the last time we put in a good performance? I’m concerned that we seem to be stagnating and in desperate need of a shake up with the squad.
The next two home games gives us a good chance to get back to winning ways again, but certain players need to pull their fingers out.
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Post by Anders on Nov 25, 2018 1:28:45 GMT
Dreadful game, cost us a tenner but we should have been paid that to witness it.
Apart from a Dudley effort which tricked just wide and a superb save from Shenton in the second half nothing happened at all. The only highlight for me was Matty Thomson’s performance, he looks well up to it. Livesey and Howson also did well and Shenton did everything (very little) that was asked of him.
Mahon and Mooney found themselves with two or three men surrounding every time they received the ball, for me they’ve got to be wiser and more switched on against those tactics, they both just looked as if they thought the could outrun or trick their way though but it never worked. They’ve got to lay the ball off quicker in to the space vacated and those around need to fill it.
Today hammered home just how much of a big miss Matty Hughes is to me, that’s now a problem spot, the likes of Mani, Murray and Smalley have tried but not really looked to fit well, I think even Pritchard was tried in that slot in the Cheshire Cup game. Dawson had a bit of a mare trying to do it today, he’s shown flashes of quality in the past two games but today wasn’t his day at all.
Away from us, for a club with such money splashed on them Southport are f*ck*ng awful. Astles threw in a typical performance you’d expect from him but Archer was completely anonymous.
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Post by billyw on Nov 25, 2018 8:14:13 GMT
Dreadful game, cost us a tenner but we should have been paid that to witness it. Apart from a Dudley effort which tricked just wide and a superb save from Shenton in the second half nothing happened at all. The only highlight for me was Matty Thomson’s performance, he looks well up to it. Livesey and Howson also did well and Shenton did everything (very little) that was asked of him. Mahon and Mooney found themselves with two or three men surrounding every time they received the ball, for me they’ve got to be wiser and more switched on against those tactics, they both just looked as if they thought the could outrun or trick their way though but it never worked. They’ve got to lay the ball off quicker in to the space vacated and those around need to fill it. Today hammered home just how much of a big miss Matty Hughes is to me, that’s now a problem spot, the likes of Mani, Murray and Smalley have tried but not really looked to fit well, I think even Pritchard was tried in that slot in the Cheshire Cup game. Dawson had a bit of a mare trying to do it today, he’s shown flashes of quality in the past two games but today wasn’t his day at all. Away from us, for a club with such money splashed on them Southport are f*ck*ng awful. Astles threw in a typical performance you’d expect from him but Archer was completely anonymous. A good succinct report as always
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 9:15:47 GMT
Dreadful game that. Draw probably a far result but put them under more pressure near the end. Definately needs freshening up a bit. Thompson did quiet well. Stopford MOM Not sure I can stand another 90mins on Tuesday of Southports hoofball abd our moves breaking down, in the final third. Not sure Dawson is what we need? We need a targetman to hold the ball up and bring people, in to play. Agree with that. He maybe a replacement for Mahon or Mooney , when injured, but he's not a no.10. We need someone who can either hold the ball and run the channels, or a creative player who will make runs past the striker. He's neither of those. Strikers win you games, and leagues. There's not much wrong with this team that couldn't be solved with a better strike force. Dudley looks a goal scorer, but he's up there on his own. Our only threat from open play is Mooney cutting in on his left foot. Pretty much agree with the above Awful game, devoid of any fluency or excitement or, in truth, quality from either side. Deathly quiet in the main stand - everyone seemed to recognise we were watching a stinker Loathe as I am to criticise individuals I said after Leamington that I didn't think Dawson was the right fit for us, yesterday didn't dispel my concerns I'm nowhere near pressing the panic button yet but there are a few little twitches in the finger The "swagger" we were developing 6 weeks ago seems to have evaporated We are not "steamrolling" teams like we did Our creativity has diminished But over everything the lack of goals is my major worry. Why is this? I genuinely don't know but I'm confident that the Dynamic Duo will sort it out One good performance/win will change everything I think Let's hope it is on Tuesday - we need a good Cup run Final word on the referee You just know that when he blows 1 second into the game to restart that you're in for a long afternoon and so it proved. Absolutely shocking and yet another example of the poor standard at this level Oh well, on to Tuesday and an overdue win.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 25, 2018 11:50:42 GMT
It's always a pretty terrible game when we play there isn't it? Always seems to be freezing cold, two poor teams and no more than one goal.
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Nov 25, 2018 12:10:46 GMT
Got to go back that hovel Boxing Day aswell.
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Post by MPW on Nov 25, 2018 12:36:01 GMT
Mahon, Mooney, Dawson and Jordan all need to be rotated. I think that a little break for Mahon and Mooney will do them good.
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Post by Imperial on Nov 25, 2018 12:37:18 GMT
Got to go back that hovel Boxing Day aswell. Not looking forward to that. Especially with the way the trains are at the moment.
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Post by degsey on Nov 25, 2018 12:44:48 GMT
That was an awful game by two poor sides, that was the same ref who refereed the cup tie at Dunston, who booked Roberts at Dunston and yesterday at Southport, and sent Livesey off and gave them a debatable penalty which looked like as though it just outside of the box by Burton! The standard of referring as a lot to be desired at our level of football!
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Post by Lobster on Nov 25, 2018 12:55:09 GMT
Got to go back that hovel Boxing Day aswell. Not looking forward to that. Especially with the way the trains are at the moment. No Merseyrail trains at all on Boxing Day
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Nov 25, 2018 13:48:02 GMT
Got to go back that hovel Boxing Day aswell. Not looking forward to that. Especially with the way the trains are at the moment. Getting on a coach I think. Wish we were at home and away on NYD
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Post by Imperial on Nov 25, 2018 13:54:11 GMT
Not looking forward to that. Especially with the way the trains are at the moment. Getting on a coach I think. Wish we were at home and away on NYD Hipkiss?
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Post by Cestrian1987 on Nov 25, 2018 14:14:25 GMT
Getting on a coach I think. Wish we were at home and away on NYD Hipkiss? Oh god no only use that in an emergency. Bus going from The Saltney Ferry.
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 25, 2018 19:11:09 GMT
Couldn't go today but they've come in to a decent run of form after a dreadful start and so getting a result there is positive - even if the extra game isn't what we need!! Hope we go for it on Tuesday night, we've missed out on enough prize money as it is in recent seasons. They have hit some form but crikey they were bad (so were we). Worst side we've faced this season. Yeah. They were a very limited side when they had the ball. However, without it they were very well organised and closed us down really well. Two men on Mooney and Mahon every time stopping them cutting in. Balls into the striker blocked out and team fouling at the first sign of danger. Wouldn't want to watch it every week. Unfortunately it's easier to stop a team from playing than to play yourself. Might be more space on our pitch, but will still be a tough game on Tuesday.
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Post by muffinthemule on Nov 25, 2018 19:47:17 GMT
It's always a pretty terrible game when we play there isn't it? Always seems to be freezing cold, two poor teams and no more than one goal.
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Post by muffinthemule on Nov 25, 2018 19:58:39 GMT
My view for the "slump" is that during our unbeaten run we had Mahon on the wing with space and creating havoc. We were also full of energy as a a team and closing down quickly in midfield. As I see it now, Mahon and gone back to playing to much center midfield where he is completely ineffective and gives the ball away in deep position putting the defenders with no time to adjust. Also the closing down in midfield is now non existent and that just allow teams to run at us. This I think is probably due to tiredness with so many games and small squad.still, onwards and upwards. Couple of signings to freshen up the squad and forward to the play_offs
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Post by norwegianblue on Nov 25, 2018 21:31:28 GMT
Where's that Blue Jay character? Attachments:
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Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 26, 2018 9:48:59 GMT
Dreadful game, cost us a tenner but we should have been paid that to witness it. Apart from a Dudley effort which tricked just wide and a superb save from Shenton in the second half nothing happened at all. The only highlight for me was Matty Thomson’s performance, he looks well up to it. Livesey and Howson also did well and Shenton did everything (very little) that was asked of him. Mahon and Mooney found themselves with two or three men surrounding every time they received the ball, for me they’ve got to be wiser and more switched on against those tactics, they both just looked as if they thought the could outrun or trick their way though but it never worked. They’ve got to lay the ball off quicker in to the space vacated and those around need to fill it. Today hammered home just how much of a big miss Matty Hughes is to me, that’s now a problem spot, the likes of Mani, Murray and Smalley have tried but not really looked to fit well, I think even Pritchard was tried in that slot in the Cheshire Cup game. Dawson had a bit of a mare trying to do it today, he’s shown flashes of quality in the past two games but today wasn’t his day at all. Away from us, for a club with such money splashed on them Southport are f*ck*ng awful. Astles threw in a typical performance you’d expect from him but Archer was completely anonymous. This is what we will see from now on, The Gary's tend to play deeper so you can starve us of any good ball by closing down our wingers quickly. I think Southport got their tactics defensively spot on, but it was so McCarthy to worry about us and set a team out to stop us, rather than win the game. I think it is concerning that we've been shown to be too heavily reliant on our 2 wingers. It makes the number 10 role so important which is why i presume young Iwan has been dropped for a more senior pro until Green comes into what it his natural position. Our full-backs are either centre backs who don't have the quality moving forward or a young kid who of course will focus quite rightly on being a defender first - so theres little overlap and as such block of Mahon and Mooney and force us through the middle and you stop us creating chances. Southport's number 7 was good the rest i wouldnt say were poor, I just think they were too busy carrying out the gameplan to nullify us in the hope they'd nick one, which they very nearly did don't forget. That would have been a pleasing 1-0 home victory but for Shenton.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 26, 2018 9:52:20 GMT
My view for the "slump" is that during our unbeaten run we had Mahon on the wing with space and creating havoc. We were also full of energy as a a team and closing down quickly in midfield. As I see it now, Mahon and gone back to playing to much center midfield where he is completely ineffective and gives the ball away in deep position putting the defenders with no time to adjust. Also the closing down in midfield is now non existent and that just allow teams to run at us. This I think is probably due to tiredness with so many games and small squad.still, onwards and upwards. Couple of signings to freshen up the squad and forward to the play_offs As i say in the other post, teams are shutting out Mahon and Mooney, they haven't become ineffective it's simply dont have the room to do anything. The space in in the middle where you'll need to see one of the Gary's pushed higher or a proper number 10 (not a winger doing a job) to utilise that space. Until then, i see teams deploying the same tactic.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Nov 26, 2018 9:53:49 GMT
Mahon, Mooney, Dawson and Jordan all need to be rotated. I think that a little break for Mahon and Mooney will do them good. Jordan needs to be rotated 180 degrees to face the exit door.
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