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Post by gazzpash on Mar 21, 2017 21:41:53 GMT
Scum get last minute penalty as well! Can whoever it is that's upset a local gypsy lady please apologise to her.
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Post by Goats 'n Roses on Mar 21, 2017 21:42:41 GMT
I don't beeelieve it lol 1-1
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Post by Lobster on Mar 21, 2017 21:44:26 GMT
I don't beeelieve it lol 1-1 That serves you right!
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Post by btb on Mar 21, 2017 21:44:46 GMT
This run is becoming very worrying. Managers have been sacked for similar. Some sleepless nights coming up for the CEO and the board. The two year extension is starting to look very ropey. We could even go down!
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 21, 2017 21:47:09 GMT
Sharpes goes.
Macca gets found out.
Story of the season. Macca talks a good game, but that's about all you can say.
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Post by Deva93 on Mar 21, 2017 21:48:56 GMT
As mentioned on here were conceding way too many goals after 80 mins of late; 2 at Dagenham, 2 against Tranmere, the crushing one vs Eastleigh and now another tonight. Its a joke.
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Post by Derry Blue on Mar 21, 2017 21:49:01 GMT
Anyone know the attendance? 1,802
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 21, 2017 21:49:36 GMT
We had a spell 10 or 11 years ago when we took 4 points from 17 games. Mark Wright returned and saved us with 5 straight wins.
We now have W1 D1 L7 from the last 9, so we're more than half way there.
It's very worrying, specially regularly conceding 3 goals at home.
Our home record has been absolutely smashed.
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Post by Derry Blue on Mar 21, 2017 21:50:19 GMT
Sharpes goes. Macca gets found out. Story of the season. Macca talks a good game, but that's about all you can say. You may be right. We need something to change - NOW!
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Post by Deva93 on Mar 21, 2017 21:51:06 GMT
Ironic thing is our home form was very good until Gateshead.
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Post by Lobster on Mar 21, 2017 21:52:41 GMT
Scum get last minute penalty as well! Can whoever it is that's upset a local gypsy lady please apologise to her. Think it's being wrongly reported as a penalty - both clubs' Twitters say it was just a goal from a dodgy backpass. They still found time to blow it, not that that's much consolation.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 22:24:47 GMT
just got in from the game .we were beaten by a really good side .they passed the ball well found there men and every attack had four or five pressing .lynch at fault for second goal .bad back pass by vassel for the winner .shame Alabi hit post with best chester move.plenty of effort now we need some luck
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 22:25:38 GMT
just got in from the game .we were beaten by a really good side .they passed the ball well found there men and every attack had four or five pressing .lynch at fault for second goal .bad back pass by vassel for the winner .shame Alabi hit post with best chester move.plenty of effort now we need some luck
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 21, 2017 22:26:41 GMT
just got in from the game .we were beaten by a really good side .they passed the ball well found there men and every attack had four or five pressing .lynch at fault for second goal .bad back pass by vassel for the winner .shame Alabi hit post with best chester move.plenty of effort now we need some luck Are you saying there's no problem and Macca IS the Messiah?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 22:29:13 GMT
where on earth did you read that just saying we were beaten by a better team
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Post by Anders on Mar 21, 2017 22:34:37 GMT
That first half tonight was really painful to watch, it was like a training match for Macclesfield. We were fortunate to get ahead let’s be honest, although it was well taken by Alabi. We weren’t doing too bad going forward but they were tearing through the gaps in that 5-3-2/3-5-2 system (whatever you want to call it) in particular between the centre backs and wing backs. We switched to 4-4-2 and then ended up giving them a ridiculous amount of space sitting back and not pressing. I don’t think Danny O’Brien ever got within 4 yards or so of a Macc player he stood so far off. We did at least give a respectable showing of ourselves in the second half getting at them a bit more and made a game of it.
Hughes improved no end when moved in to the middle after Hudson went off. Why can everyone but the manager see this needs to be permanent? Alabi had a good game as well, took the first goal and created the second and was our only threat. Durrell and Dawson had moments in the game and Lloyd worked hard but little came off for him.
This is tough but we need to keep going and get behind them because their confidence is down on the floor. Bar a few, they did work hard. Manager needs to go back to basics and stop messing about. Play it simple, play players in their positions and get them pressing, stop giving teams so much space to play in.
Well done the lads on the Harry Mac again as well, never stopped.
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Post by billyw on Mar 21, 2017 22:35:48 GMT
Sharpes goes. Macca gets found out. Story of the season. Macca talks a good game, but that's about all you can say. In a nutshell.
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Post by Arrogant Blue on Mar 21, 2017 22:37:23 GMT
If McCarthy stopped dicking round with the formation to fit in the atrocious Hudson and we might keep a clean sheet. That was woeful first half with O'Brien having a shocker and Hudson looking like last pick in a school playground game!
There needs to be some new signings otherwise it's relegation.
Can Will Marsh save us?
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Post by Si on Mar 21, 2017 22:39:32 GMT
If we got anything from that game it would have been a travesty. Yes we looked more threatening in the second half but in all honesty Macc played proper football and showed how you pass and move. I actually felt that we looked alright going forwards throughout the whole 90, but the problem lies firmly in midfield. They just shift sideways like crabs whilst teams pass around us - we can play like that away from home and soak up and counter attack but at home it's a recurring theme that we give teams far too much respect and we spend large chunks of the game chasing shadows. Lloyd rarely puts a foot in anymore and just defends the space rather than actually tackling, except he got totally schooled by Whittaker who time and time again found pockets of space. Shaw ran a lot but again did not actually tackle enough. Dawson was ok and played some nice balls trying to fit Alabi. I'm unsure as to how Macc can put together a team that good on a similar budget to us, but it just shows that it can be done. Richards got a goal but in all honesty anyone could have stuck that away and other than that he failed to chase down defenders or hold it up, just not good enough.
I found myself saying "too easy" a lot tonight - too easy for them to pick up second balls, too easy for them to pop the ball around for fun, too easy for them to take a throw in to someone unchallenged. That is just too many basics not being done, and Macca really needs to reevaluate his tactics at home. Too much respect given to teams, it's like we have forgotten that we were a good team once and are now running scared rather that taking the game to the opposition.
And as for O'Brien......he was so out his depth I actually felt sorry for him. He is not the answer and was a pointless signing at a time where we needed a striker.
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Post by billyw on Mar 21, 2017 22:42:47 GMT
just got in from the game .we were beaten by a really good side .they passed the ball well found there men and every attack had four or five pressing .lynch at fault for second goal .bad back pass by vassel for the winner .shame Alabi hit post with best chester move.plenty of effort now we need some luck Agreed. In the first half we were outclassed as Macc played some lovely football, and were yards quicker than us. Defensive mistakes cost us yet again but we were much improved from Saturday and I've seen us play worse than that and win.
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Post by Flicker's Left Foot on Mar 21, 2017 22:49:03 GMT
I can't understand why Macca can't see, when Hudson plays we concede multiple goals. Sam Hughes is a 6/10 full back and a 9/10 centre half. To be fair Macc were excellent. Really good passing and movement and great pressing without the ball. O'Brien had a terrible first half. Haven't we got a youth team striker worth giving 30 minutes to as Kane's first touch and confidence have long deserted him?
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Post by Buckley Blue on Mar 21, 2017 22:50:31 GMT
Was totally fed up on Saturday but not so much tonight as we could have got a draw, perhaps not overly deserved, but we could have sneaked one. Macc were a very good team particularly their number 7. O'Brien offers as much as Richards so straight off we're playing in effect with ten men both halves. Roberts now needs to come in for Lynch. Shaw was obviously not fit as well so why wasn't Joyce brought on later in the game
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Post by Rio Doherty on Mar 21, 2017 22:56:35 GMT
This is another set back, and it has to stop before we get dragged in to it. I felt very emotional when we were clapping for Garry Allen, and I would've loved us to win for him, but this run is getting ridiculous now. In the first half Macc used the ball really well to get it out wide into different positions and we rarely fought to win it back. Their first goal was very well taken. We were brighter in the second half when we went to 4-4-2 but we still weren't good enough in midfield. Elliott Durrell played well and Johnny Hunt had a good game but again Macc were playing some lovely football all around us. Although I was in the toilets at the time, it was good to hear that Kane Richards scored and the performance is an improvement from Saturday, however another late winner killed us and we are now almost treading water I'm afraid. Onto Bromley on Saturday which is VITAL that we gain 3 points. P.S I was glad to see the terrace filled up and well done to everyone who never stopped singing who put on a great display.
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Post by Anders on Mar 21, 2017 23:04:00 GMT
I can't understand why Macca can't see, when Hudson plays we concede multiple goals. Sam Hughes is a 6/10 full back and a 9/10 centre half. To be fair Macc were excellent. Really good passing and movement and great pressing without the ball. O'Brien had a terrible first half. Haven't we got a youth team striker worth giving 30 minutes to as Kane's first touch and confidence have long deserted him? I don’t think Richards' first touch has ever been particularly good in the first place. He never really looks as if he has the ball under control. He can be effective at times as he’s fairly quick and can be tricky to deal with, sometimes out of his own clumsiness. He can be a bit of a nuisance and wins free kicks. But he’s not progressed past his raw potential, I watch him and think if he was like 18/19 I‘d be quite excited about what he could go on to do with work but it’s not clicking with him. His body language is poor as well and as we’ve seen can lose his rag at the drop of a hat. He deserved to be dropped and didn’t do much when he came on either, let’s be honest anyone could have scored that tonight, he couldn’t miss.
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Post by Flicker's Left Foot on Mar 21, 2017 23:19:48 GMT
I can't understand why Macca can't see, when Hudson plays we concede multiple goals. Sam Hughes is a 6/10 full back and a 9/10 centre half. To be fair Macc were excellent. Really good passing and movement and great pressing without the ball. O'Brien had a terrible first half. Haven't we got a youth team striker worth giving 30 minutes to as Kane's first touch and confidence have long deserted him? I don’t think Richards' first touch has ever been particularly good in the first place. He never really looks as if he has the ball under control. He can be effective at times as he’s fairly quick and can be tricky to deal with, sometimes out of his own clumsiness. He can be a bit of a nuisance and wins free kicks. But he’s not progressed past his raw potential, I watch him and think if he was like 18/19 I‘d be quite excited about what he could go on to do with work but it’s not clicking with him. His body language is poor as well and as we’ve seen can lose his rag at the drop of a hat. He deserved to be dropped and didn’t do much when he came on either, let’s be honest anyone could have scored that tonight, he couldn’t miss. He just looks nowhere near the striker of last year's last 5 games.
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Post by border collie on Mar 22, 2017 1:34:20 GMT
Another 3 goals conceded, this is only going one way im afraid
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 22, 2017 7:07:58 GMT
The board are going to have to account for this situation too and explain who decided to commit us to such a long contract.
I feel as though our hands are tied, if we wanted to get rid I'm not certain we could afford too given how long is left - especially so soon after the Burr pay off.
The team are just stuck in a losing habit and Macca has no idea how to fix it. Similar to Burr, we have the players to get over the line but Macca is the problem.
As much as I like the bloke, we need better.
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 22, 2017 8:46:27 GMT
The board are going to have to account for this situation too and explain who decided to commit us to such a long contract. I feel as though our hands are tied, if we wanted to get rid I'm not certain we could afford too given how long is left - especially so soon after the Burr pay off. The team are just stuck in a losing habit and Macca has no idea how to fix it. Similar to Burr, we have the players to get over the line but Macca is the problem. As much as I like the bloke, we need better. I didn't go last night, partly because I took my lad to the Railway Museum in York, but when I got home I thought that a sit down and a cup of tea was a more exiting prospect than going to watch the inevitable defeat against Macc (btw I am a ST holder, but won't be renewing next season if nothing changes)). I've booked 3 nights in Torquay next week, but I see that as another inevitable defeat. The defeat there last season was one of, if not the last game before Burr was sacked. This season feels like a re-run of last season's, including the non-performances in cups.
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Post by livinginhope on Mar 22, 2017 8:56:34 GMT
I thought we passed the ball around well last night, there seemed to be a real effort to keep the ball on the deck or play balls over their midfield into Alabi's feet. Going forward we were threatening and could have come away with something, but our defensive problems showed again. We are the 6th highest scorers in the division but are being let down time and again by a lack of organisation at the back. Macc played well though I thought, their number 7 destroyed us particularly second half and they were able to open up our defence with some nice passing moves. This is a team who are on a similar budget to us but have made some clever signings for this level, it's where we aspire to be but there is a big gulf between us and them. Durrell played well up front first half and it was good to see both strikers pressing and looking to win the ball back. Alabi is too good for us, would love him to stay but he'll be off in the summer. He held the ball up really well and created chances for us. Every game he creates something out of nothing, his run to set up our second goal was excellent. If only he had scored his effort that hit the post. Was impressed with Dawson again, and he'll get better with more match practice. Durrell or Alabi for man of the match. Nervously looking over our shoulder now, we need to get something Saturday. 7 points clear of relegation currently, by 5pm Saturday we could possibly be just 4 points clear, or be all but safe on 10 points clear. Not feeling optimistic though.
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Post by Si on Mar 22, 2017 9:18:24 GMT
I thought we passed the ball around well last night, there seemed to be a real effort to keep the ball on the deck or play balls over their midfield into Alabi's feet. Going forward we were threatening and could have come away with something, but our defensive problems showed again. We are the 6th highest scorers in the division but are being let down time and again by a lack of organisation at the back. Macc played well though I thought, their number 7 destroyed us particularly second half and they were able to open up our defence with some nice passing moves. This is a team who are on a similar budget to us but have made some clever signings for this level, it's where we aspire to be but there is a big gulf between us and them. Durrell played well up front first half and it was good to see both strikers pressing and looking to win the ball back. Alabi is too good for us, would love him to stay but he'll be off in the summer. He held the ball up really well and created chances for us. Every game he creates something out of nothing, his run to set up our second goal was excellent. If only he had scored his effort that hit the post. Was impressed with Dawson again, and he'll get better with more match practice. Durrell or Alabi for man of the match. Nervously looking over our shoulder now, we need to get something Saturday. 7 points clear of relegation currently, by 5pm Saturday we could possibly be just 4 points clear, or be all but safe on 10 points clear. Not feeling optimistic though. I look at the defence and man for man they are all good players and were the back 4 during the run of clean sheets. But tactically we've changed - the midfield don't press like they used to. Earlier in the season Macca frequently mentioned how they work on pressing and when to do it and when to sit off. I think the tinkering with tactics has definately led to uncertainty in when to press the ball, and also depleted confidence seemed to have sapped the players energy too. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, the midfield just appear to move sideways in their shape and ask teams to play through us, rather than pressing the ball. That's ok away from home when you'd expect to surrender the majority of possession and counter attack, but at home we have to be more ambitious than that and take the game to teams. Macc were able to pass around our midfield last night and that winning goal was similar to the Tranmere one in that someone has been afforded too much space on the edge of the area and if you allow that too often then sooner or later it pings in the net. Perhaps we need to push the defence a bit higher up in the latter stages of games, taking away that space on the edge of the area - again that's down to confidence, as we're petrified of getting done for pace in behind, but defending so deep without that midfield protection is suicidal as its just allowing teams far too much space on the edge of the area to pick a pass or have a pop.
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