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Post by billyw on Jul 5, 2019 7:27:38 GMT
Underwhelmed on the 14th. May. Now 5th. July and still underwhelmed. Out of interest can you give some names as to who you believe we should have signed , be interested to know your ‘whelmed’ thresholds. I can understand what RCB is saying. There seems to be an unusual ‘flatness’ over the dawn of a new season which I think is due to a lack of new faces. I get the impression from people I have spoken to that expectations are not very high and it will be a repeat of last season. I know our budget is not great and ‘we are where we are’ so no criticism is meant, I just think RCB reflects a lot of views about our prospects for the new season.
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Post by bitbbh on Jul 5, 2019 8:44:05 GMT
Out of interest can you give some names as to who you believe we should have signed , be interested to know your ‘whelmed’ thresholds. I can understand what RCB is saying. There seems to be an unusual ‘flatness’ over the dawn of a new season which I think is due to a lack of new faces. I get the impression from people I have spoken to that expectations are not very high and it will be a repeat of last season. I know our budget is not great and ‘we are where we are’ so no criticism is meant, I just think RCB reflects a lot of views about our prospects for the new season. Its been a case of "out with the old, in with the err old". OK I can also understand the lack of excitement ahead of the pre season schedule but to be honest our squad, fully fit is a match for anyone. Obviously we are still looking to sort out the goalkeeper position and a creative midfielder would certainly be an assett but we are stronger than last season. Rumours are that one of the lads on trial is from the Isle of Man so at least he should be quick with having three legs.😉
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Post by rcb on Jul 5, 2019 8:48:58 GMT
Honest question rcb, like bluemission says who would you like the management to bring in, considering the constraints the management have to work under budget wise would you rather we break the bank and ruin the club again ? Feckin UNDERWHELMED !!!! Your bonkers man. And your spelling is underwhelming.
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Jul 5, 2019 9:05:47 GMT
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jul 5, 2019 9:05:47 GMT
Underwhelmed on the 14th. May. Now 5th. July and still underwhelmed. Out of interest can you give some names as to who you believe we should have signed , be interested to know your ‘whelmed’ thresholds. Can you stop quoting him please, I blocked him for a reason but his posts still appear when quoted. Cheers
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Jul 5, 2019 9:11:05 GMT
Post by rcb on Jul 5, 2019 9:11:05 GMT
Underwhelmed on the 14th. May. Now 5th. July and still underwhelmed. Out of interest can you give some names as to who you believe we should have signed , be interested to know your ‘whelmed’ thresholds. An interesting question, and one where you feel that a retired pensioner should really have a better scouting network than not one, but two managers who are supposedly the right people for the job. I can can tell you that I feel we should be scouting for young players who we can sell on for a profit, and I am not ‘whelmed’ by the re-signing en masse of last season’s squad, particularly when we were told otherwise. Jamie Morgan is a good example of what we should be doing more of. The season has yet to begin and already I’m reading defensive nonsense about restrictive budgets. Our poor budget is a well known issue which the managers will have been well aware of when they accepted the job, and in fairness to them they have never complained, so why others offer it up as a feeble excuse is actually undermining the abilities or suitabilities of the current managers.
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Jul 5, 2019 9:24:43 GMT
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Post by durdy on Jul 5, 2019 9:24:43 GMT
I totally concur with RCB my underwhelmedness is at its most underwhelming since I was last ever whelmed ....if you get my drift 🤔😐
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Post by g1 on Jul 5, 2019 9:33:32 GMT
To be honest I agree with rcb let's look at it no goalie except one who can't commit to hybrid an aging defence that conceded 64 goals last season 3 right backs 3 30 something midfielders 2 of them injury no width no creativity 3 strikers one of whom sulked and one who still isn't match fit yet let's be honest he's right got to convince a lot of people these 2 all right talking the talk walking the walk is what we need
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Post by agl on Jul 5, 2019 9:50:24 GMT
The managers must be under no illusion that play offs must be achieved this season. I will be disappointed if we are not in the top 3. I'm reasonably 'whelmed' so far with the way the squad is shaping up. We've got rid of some dead wood (maybe not enough) and made a couple of good looking signings, such as Kevin Roberts who played in one of the best defences in the league above last year. The goalkeeper who is on trial would be an improvement on Shenton IMO, we have a fitter Gary Roberts, a fit Stopforth and Burton must be itching to prove is not a waste of space. Asante is the key for me....if (and it's a big if) we keep him fit and motivated he is a 20plus goals striker. What I'm pleased about is the lack of signing so called 'squad' players who are just there to make up the numbers (a favourite strategy of McCarthy) We've obviously missed out on a few decent players who have been offered better money but there's still plenty of time. Players who have set their wages too high will have to reconsider, loan players will become available and one or two we don't know about who have been offered deals might opt for us. I hope we will also see a fit Matty Hughes, which would be like a new signing. We are short of a creative midfielder but my message to Durdy, rcb etc is don't panic. It could be a lot worse...we could have signed McNulty. All I ask is that we don't have the traditional post-Christmas melt down, for once.
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Post by Imperial on Jul 5, 2019 11:00:22 GMT
Honest question rcb, like bluemission says who would you like the management to bring in, considering the constraints the management have to work under budget wise would you rather we break the bank and ruin the club again ? Feckin UNDERWHELMED !!!! Your bonkers man. And your spelling is underwhelming. I can only see grammatical & punctuation errors, not spelling.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 5, 2019 11:00:23 GMT
I'm happy with what's been done so far. It hasn't been the most exciting of close seasons, but then we haven't needed the wholesale changes that have become common in recent years. We actually have something to build on, for a change.
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Jul 5, 2019 11:00:56 GMT
Post by rcb on Jul 5, 2019 11:00:56 GMT
The managers must be under no illusion that play offs must be achieved this season. I will be disappointed if we are not in the top 3. I'm reasonably 'whelmed' so far with the way the squad is shaping up. We've got rid of some dead wood (maybe not enough) and made a couple of good looking signings, such as Kevin Roberts who played in one of the best defences in the league above last year. The goalkeeper who is on trial would be an improvement on Shenton IMO, we have a fitter Gary Roberts, a fit Stopforth and Burton must be itching to prove is not a waste of space. Asante is the key for me....if (and it's a big if) we keep him fit and motivated he is a 20plus goals striker. What I'm pleased about is the lack of signing so called 'squad' players who are just there to make up the numbers (a favourite strategy of McCarthy) We've obviously missed out on a few decent players who have been offered better money but there's still plenty of time. Players who have set their wages too high will have to reconsider, loan players will become available and one or two we don't know about who have been offered deals might opt for us. I hope we will also see a fit Matty Hughes, which would be like a new signing. We are short of a creative midfielder but my message to Durdy, rcb etc is don't panic. It could be a lot worse...we could have signed McNulty. All I ask is that we don't have the traditional post-Christmas melt down, for once. Excellent, positive view of where we stand at present. My remaining underwhelmed so far is based on my opinion that we have retained too many, thus limiting our ability to bring in more fresh young prospects, and an over reliance on the dodgy medical history of Asante. I’ll be honest, I thought Dudley was a good signing last season but his end to the season blew his right to be re-signed. Hopefully the managers feel he has learned his lesson. I believe that Shenton left the club as a direct consequence of fan expression, so am happy that the managers have listened. I fully appreciate the constraints of the limited budget, but just see too many from last year limiting it further. You have identified several key players, but my fear is that they are identifiable by the opposite too, and will be targeted as a consequence. As I’ve said before, I’m still hopeful that we can get some excitement from the final two or three signings.
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Jul 5, 2019 11:03:59 GMT
Post by rcb on Jul 5, 2019 11:03:59 GMT
And your spelling is underwhelming. I can only see grammatical & punctuation errors, not spelling. Your.
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Jul 5, 2019 11:08:38 GMT
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Post by Imperial on Jul 5, 2019 11:08:38 GMT
I can only see grammatical & punctuation errors, not spelling. Your. That’s a grammatical error, he hasn’t spelled “your” incorrectly but used it in place of “you’re”.
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Jul 5, 2019 11:34:26 GMT
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Post by MPW on Jul 5, 2019 11:34:26 GMT
There is still another month to go before the season starts, so I’m happy that the managers are keeping their options open and haven’t already spent the budget like at he start of last season. However, I feel that we haven’t had a new signing that’s got the fans excited yet, but I really hope that we bring in one or two more players that could make the difference for us.
Other clubs like York are going all out and have made some impressive signings, but the pressure will be on them to deliver where as I think have fallen under the radar a little so far.
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Post by agl on Jul 5, 2019 12:22:08 GMT
There is still another month to go before the season starts, so I’m happy that the managers are keeping their options open and haven’t already spent the budget like at he start of last season. However, I feel that we haven’t had a new signing that’s got the fans excited yet, but I really hope that we bring in one or two more players that could make the difference for us. Other clubs like York are going all out and have made some impressive signings, but the pressure will be on them to deliver where as I think have fallen under the radar a little so far. On the money we are offering I don't think we will see what might be termed 'exciting', or 'marque' as some put it, names. Rightly or wrongly the managers think the bulk of the players we already have are, in the main, better than what we can afford if we offload. I'm not a great fan of Mahon, for example, or Grand, but can we get better at our level for the money? Trying to be positive, we were undone last year by a terrible spell between Xmas and March. We started and finished the season strongly. Remains to be seen if we will be fitter and better organised but with the new training regime I would hope so. I think the bookies have us in a group of second favourites, after York. Bottom line is you don't have to be great to finish Top 7, but we really need to aim higher so we get home advantage in play offs. If we muddle along in mid table I will be mightily peed off.
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Jul 5, 2019 12:33:15 GMT
Post by gezzer on Jul 5, 2019 12:33:15 GMT
There is still another month to go before the season starts, so I’m happy that the managers are keeping their options open and haven’t already spent the budget like at he start of last season. However, I feel that we haven’t had a new signing that’s got the fans excited yet, but I really hope that we bring in one or two more players that could make the difference for us. Other clubs like York are going all out and have made some impressive signings, but the pressure will be on them to deliver where as I think have fallen under the radar a little so far. On the money we are offering I don't think we will see what might be termed 'exciting', or 'marque' as some put it, names. Rightly or wrongly the managers think the bulk of the players we already have are, in the main, better than what we can afford if we offload. I'm not a great fan of Mahon, for example, or Grand, but can we get better at our level for the money? Trying to be positive, we were undone last year by a terrible spell between Xmas and March. We started and finished the season strongly. Remains to be seen if we will be fitter and better organised but with the new training regime I would hope so. I think the bookies have us in a group of second favourites, after York. Bottom line is you don't have to be great to finish Top 7, but we really need to aim higher so we get home advantage in play offs. If we muddle along in mid table I will be mightily peed off. Spot on, its all about the money. At the level we are at we are no longer an attractive proposition as a stepping stone for the ambitious youngsters or a "twilight" club for anyone dropping out of league football. Our budget, which, moving to a hybrid model has restricted us even more and we cannot even compete with the local WPL sides. The only carrot we can dangle is the Managers for their previous exploits which I am sure they will be keen to build on by, as a minimum, getting into the playoffs.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Jul 5, 2019 12:40:40 GMT
Underwhelmed on the 14th. May. Now 5th. July and still underwhelmed. Out of interest can you give some names as to who you believe we should have signed , be interested to know your ‘whelmed’ thresholds. Anyone who hasn't already played for us.
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Jul 5, 2019 13:11:47 GMT
Post by rcb on Jul 5, 2019 13:11:47 GMT
And your spelling is underwhelming. I can only see grammatical & punctuation errors, not spelling. Phonologically, EWER, YEWER, YOUR, URE, and YOURE are the same, but the grammatical context dictates which spelling to use. In the case of YOURE then the lack of an apostrophe would be an issue of abbreviation.
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Jul 5, 2019 13:18:14 GMT
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Post by Lobster on Jul 5, 2019 13:18:14 GMT
I can only see grammatical & punctuation errors, not spelling. Phonologically, EWER, YEWER, YOUR, URE, and YOURE are the same, but the grammatical context dictates which spelling to use. In the case of YOURE then the lack of an apostrophe would be an issue of abbreviation. Quibbling over grammar seems like the sort of thing people do if they have no worthwhile argument to make. And I say that as someone who largely does copy editing for a living.
It's a football forum, not an academic essay!
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Jul 5, 2019 13:19:32 GMT
Post by agl on Jul 5, 2019 13:19:32 GMT
I can only see grammatical & punctuation errors, not spelling. Phonologically, EWER, YEWER, YOUR, URE, and YOURE are the same, but the grammatical context dictates which spelling to use. In the case of YOURE then the lack of an apostrophe would be an issue of abbreviation. Dont get into a battle with RCB over spelling or punctuation, your bound to loose
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Jul 5, 2019 13:22:42 GMT
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Post by billyw on Jul 5, 2019 13:22:42 GMT
There is still another month to go before the season starts, so I’m happy that the managers are keeping their options open and haven’t already spent the budget like at he start of last season. However, I feel that we haven’t had a new signing that’s got the fans excited yet, but I really hope that we bring in one or two more players that could make the difference for us. Other clubs like York are going all out and have made some impressive signings, but the pressure will be on them to deliver where as I think have fallen under the radar a little so far. On the money we are offering I don't think we will see what might be termed 'exciting', or 'marque' as some put it, names. Rightly or wrongly the managers think the bulk of the players we already have are, in the main, better than what we can afford if we offload. I'm not a great fan of Mahon, for example, or Grand, but can we get better at our level for the money? Trying to be positive, we were undone last year by a terrible spell between Xmas and March. We started and finished the season strongly. Remains to be seen if we will be fitter and better organised but with the new training regime I would hope so. I think the bookies have us in a group of second favourites, after York. Bottom line is you don't have to be great to finish Top 7, but we really need to aim higher so we get home advantage in play offs. If we muddle along in mid table I will be mightily peed off. Agreed. It’s a bit sad when we see a top 7 finish in the second tier of non league football as a target. I fully understand the budgetary constraints but looking at the wider picture, that is not going to get the fans flocking back. I think this coming season is probably the most important for the club since we reformed, it’s not just a make or break for the managers.
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Post by Imperial on Jul 5, 2019 14:04:00 GMT
I can only see grammatical & punctuation errors, not spelling. Phonologically, EWER, YEWER, YOUR, URE, and YOURE are the same, but the grammatical context dictates which spelling to use. In the case of YOURE then the lack of an apostrophe would be an issue of abbreviation. Correct. Which is why the error is one of grammar & not spelling.
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Post by Imperial on Jul 5, 2019 14:04:26 GMT
Phonologically, EWER, YEWER, YOUR, URE, and YOURE are the same, but the grammatical context dictates which spelling to use. In the case of YOURE then the lack of an apostrophe would be an issue of abbreviation. Quibbling over grammar seems like the sort of thing people do if they have no worthwhile argument to make. And I say that as someone who largely does copy editing for a living.
It's a football forum, not an academic essay!
Yeah not going to lie I’m a boring twat 😂
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Jul 5, 2019 15:05:03 GMT
Post by billyw on Jul 5, 2019 15:05:03 GMT
Phonologically, EWER, YEWER, YOUR, URE, and YOURE are the same, but the grammatical context dictates which spelling to use. In the case of YOURE then the lack of an apostrophe would be an issue of abbreviation. Dont get into a battle with RCB over spelling or punctuation, your bound to loose TBF you’ve given him some ammunition with that spelling
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Jul 5, 2019 15:40:03 GMT
Post by rcb on Jul 5, 2019 15:40:03 GMT
Phonologically, EWER, YEWER, YOUR, URE, and YOURE are the same, but the grammatical context dictates which spelling to use. In the case of YOURE then the lack of an apostrophe would be an issue of abbreviation. Quibbling over grammar seems like the sort of thing people do if they have no worthwhile argument to make. And I say that as someone who largely does copy editing for a living.
It's a football forum, not an academic essay!
Couldn’t agree more. I simply responded to an unnecessary insult, and lo and behold a third party challenged the accuracy of my throw away comment. I simply replied. Shame we haven’t got ins and outs to discuss!
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Post by Hannibal on Jul 5, 2019 15:54:21 GMT
And your spelling is underwhelming. I can only see grammatical & punctuation errors, not spelling. I thought that too Stortford.
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Jul 5, 2019 15:57:13 GMT
Post by Hannibal on Jul 5, 2019 15:57:13 GMT
Phonologically, EWER, YEWER, YOUR, URE, and YOURE are the same, but the grammatical context dictates which spelling to use. In the case of YOURE then the lack of an apostrophe would be an issue of abbreviation. Quibbling over grammar seems like the sort of thing people do if they have no worthwhile argument to make. And I say that as someone who largely does copy editing for a living.
It's a football forum, not an academic essay!
There's no harm in correcting poor grammar, punctuation and spelling. I couldn't believe it when I was told there are people at university who couldn't do the above, but it's true.
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Jul 5, 2019 16:34:50 GMT
Post by Lobster on Jul 5, 2019 16:34:50 GMT
Quibbling over grammar seems like the sort of thing people do if they have no worthwhile argument to make. And I say that as someone who largely does copy editing for a living.
It's a football forum, not an academic essay!
There's no harm in correcting poor grammar, punctuation and spelling. I couldn't believe it when I was told there are people at university who couldn't do the above, but it's true. Not everyone finds spelling and grammar - or even reading and writing - easy. It's different if you see a 'your' instead of a 'you're' in a newspaper, news website or formal document, but this is an informal discussion group and I would say correcting minor errors is rude and unnecessary.
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Jul 5, 2019 16:56:28 GMT
Post by rcb on Jul 5, 2019 16:56:28 GMT
I agree, but as it was used initially against me as part of an unnecessary insult I chose to respond. Not sure why someone else chose to stick his nose in thereafter.
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Jul 5, 2019 17:02:12 GMT
Post by Lobster on Jul 5, 2019 17:02:12 GMT
I agree, but as it was used initially against me as part of an unnecessary insult I chose to respond. Not sure why someone else chose to stick his nose in thereafter. Fair enough. I agree if someone insults you with bad grammar, they're asking for it!
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