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Post by Lobster on Mar 10, 2020 11:55:34 GMT
The club should come out and counter this, we are a non political organisation and certainly our name should be nowhere near an Iranian-Backed Terrorist State. Cute. The club don’t really need to say anything. We’ve made a decision that we’re happy with, the BDS movement are happy with it too for a different reason, it’s done. But would you say the same if a pro-Israel group was happy with a decision we'd made and tried to claim that they'd influenced it, or some sort of Nazi group? Or would you say the club should distance itself from it? It's difficult to be politically neutral, because nobody is, but it's something the club needs to consider.
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Post by alancfc on Mar 10, 2020 13:01:45 GMT
The club should come out and counter this, we are a non political organisation and certainly our name should be nowhere near an Iranian-Backed Terrorist State. Cute. The club don’t really need to say anything. We’ve made a decision that we’re happy with, the BDS movement are happy with it too for a different reason, it’s done. Nothing 'cute' about Islamic terrorism; you've clearly never served your country and seen the hell on earth it creates. I'm Pro - Israel; I would still however, expect the club to distance themselves from any claim of its support, by Pro-Israel or Jewish groups. No-one should claim any stance in our name.
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Post by Suomen Sininen on Mar 10, 2020 13:39:47 GMT
Sort of understand why the club have made no official statement regarding this, being drawn into a political argument is not where our club should find itself..
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Post by bing on Mar 10, 2020 15:17:49 GMT
Because both Dave Powell and the Club did it around 2:30 after most supporters would have purchased their programmes to find out the exclusive , the whole point of doing the release in that fashion was to no doubt increase sales. If the club wanted it on social media at one ish before spectators had arrived at the game they would have announced it that way. Similar to highlights and on-line advertising revenue they generate there are reasons the Club do things in a certain way as even an extra hundred sales to find out the winner is vital revenue Reading this and looking at your previous posts, you read very much like someone within the club with an agenda or an axe to grind 👀 If you are as I suspect you are, why can't you message Rio privately instead of calling him out on here Because it's a public forum. No great drama really. Having a reason to get fans to 'buy on impulse' is gold-dust from a marketing point of view. Rio is just ultra-keen and didn't understand the ramifications of his scoop.
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Post by Captain Duff on Mar 10, 2020 16:28:19 GMT
Cute. The club don’t really need to say anything. We’ve made a decision that we’re happy with, the BDS movement are happy with it too for a different reason, it’s done. Nothing 'cute' about Islamic terrorism; you've clearly never served your country and seen the hell on earth it creates. I'm Pro - Israel; I would still however, expect the club to distance themselves from any claim of its support, by Pro-Israel or Jewish groups. No-one should claim any stance in our name.First, I'm very happy with the choice of the vote even though it wasn't one of my own 3 choices (I think it looks great, just a bit samey to recent kits since reformation). Second, Alan, there are very many Palestinian Christians who support and actively campaign for BDS due to their own oppression and military occupation by Israel of areas outside the 1967 borders. But in any case I agree with Sychdyn, we've chosen a new supplier, chosen a great design and so let's focus on that eh...
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Post by Imperial on Mar 10, 2020 23:11:48 GMT
The club should absolutely distance themselves from the disgusting anti-Semitic BDS. I’d be of the same opinion even if it was a non-racist, moderate organisation but the fact that it is makes it very important that they do so. Law of averages says there are some Jewish CFC fans, they should be reassured that the decision was taken because Puma were crap & not, as PSC have implied, because they hold a position in opposition to the only Middle Eastern democracy.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Mar 10, 2020 23:24:24 GMT
The club should absolutely distance themselves from the disgusting anti-Semitic BDS. I’d be of the same opinion even if it was a non-racist, moderate organisation but the fact that it is makes it very important that they do so. Law of averages says there are some Jewish CFC fans, they should be reassured that the decision was taken because Puma were crap & not, as PSC have implied, because they hold a position in opposition to the only Middle Eastern democracy. In previous threads about this subject, you've already, under challenge, suggested that the boycott of apartheid South Africa in the 1960's was racist whilst admitting that you knew next to nothing about it. Even excusing ignorance, that is grossly offensive and ahistorical, so with respect to you, I don't think the club should be taking your advice on this issue.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Mar 10, 2020 23:28:51 GMT
The club should absolutely distance themselves from the disgusting anti-Semitic BDS. I’d be of the same opinion even if it was a non-racist, moderate organisation but the fact that it is makes it very important that they do so. Law of averages says there are some Jewish CFC fans, they should be reassured that the decision was taken because Puma were crap & not, as PSC have implied, because they hold a position in opposition to the only Middle Eastern democracy. As I said, what’s done is done and I don’t think the club should be making any comment at all - the fallout would be a lot worse if the club came out and criticised an organisation that wishes to raise the plight of victims of a racist, apartheid regime.
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Post by Imperial on Mar 11, 2020 12:05:09 GMT
The club should absolutely distance themselves from the disgusting anti-Semitic BDS. I’d be of the same opinion even if it was a non-racist, moderate organisation but the fact that it is makes it very important that they do so. Law of averages says there are some Jewish CFC fans, they should be reassured that the decision was taken because Puma were crap & not, as PSC have implied, because they hold a position in opposition to the only Middle Eastern democracy. In previous threads about this subject, you've already, under challenge, suggested that the boycott of apartheid South Africa in the 1960's was racist whilst admitting that you knew next to nothing about it. Even excusing ignorance, that is grossly offensive and ahistorical, so with respect to you, I don't think the club should be taking your advice on this issue. I don’t think I have ever suggested such a thing. As you say, I know very little about apartheid in SA. Regardless that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. With respect to you, stop the “whataboutery”. Anti-semitism is an issue that the club we support should absolutely be distancing itself from.
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Post by Imperial on Mar 11, 2020 12:09:04 GMT
The club should absolutely distance themselves from the disgusting anti-Semitic BDS. I’d be of the same opinion even if it was a non-racist, moderate organisation but the fact that it is makes it very important that they do so. Law of averages says there are some Jewish CFC fans, they should be reassured that the decision was taken because Puma were crap & not, as PSC have implied, because they hold a position in opposition to the only Middle Eastern democracy. As I said, what’s done is done and I don’t think the club should be making any comment at all - the fallout would be a lot worse if the club came out and criticised an organisation that wishes to raise the plight of victims of a racist, apartheid regime. As I said, I completely disagree. Your assertion that Israel is a racist, apartheid regime is contentious to say the least as you’re well aware. If the shoe was on the other foot & a contentious, pro-Israel organisation on the right of politics were trying to claim that our club was making decisions with their political view in mind, you’d be the first to demand the club distance themselves from those remarks & rightly so. They don’t even have to criticise BDS, simply state that the decision was made purely in regard to shortcomings in the previous deal & the best interests of the club moving forward.
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Post by alancfc on Mar 11, 2020 13:03:55 GMT
The club should absolutely distance themselves from the disgusting anti-Semitic BDS. I’d be of the same opinion even if it was a non-racist, moderate organisation but the fact that it is makes it very important that they do so. Law of averages says there are some Jewish CFC fans, they should be reassured that the decision was taken because Puma were crap & not, as PSC have implied, because they hold a position in opposition to the only Middle Eastern democracy. As I said, what’s done is done and I don’t think the club should be making any comment at all - the fallout would be a lot worse if the club came out and criticised an organisation that wishes to raise the plight of victims of a racist, apartheid regime. Who receive the full support, and armament, of Iran's Quds Force and the revolutionary guard; whose sole purpose is to eradicate Israel and its Jews. The club would make a statement if a Neo-Nazi group claimed in our name.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Mar 11, 2020 13:55:58 GMT
In previous threads about this subject, you've already, under challenge, suggested that the boycott of apartheid South Africa in the 1960's was racist whilst admitting that you knew next to nothing about it. Even excusing ignorance, that is grossly offensive and ahistorical, so with respect to you, I don't think the club should be taking your advice on this issue. I don’t think I have ever suggested such a thing. As you say, I know very little about apartheid in SA. Regardless that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. With respect to you, stop the “whataboutery”. Anti-semitism is an issue that the club we support should absolutely be distancing itself from. Haven't you?Of course the club should distance itself from anti-semitism. However, the suggestion that BDS is anti-semitic, to use your own words, is "highly contentious".
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Post by Deva Chanter on Mar 11, 2020 14:00:09 GMT
As I said, what’s done is done and I don’t think the club should be making any comment at all - the fallout would be a lot worse if the club came out and criticised an organisation that wishes to raise the plight of victims of a racist, apartheid regime. Who receive the full support, and armament, of Iran's Quds Force and the revolutionary guard; whose sole purpose is to eradicate Israel and its Jews. The club would make a statement if a Neo-Nazi group claimed in our name. Excuse me? Are you saying that the BDS is an armed group? And comparing them to neo-Nazis? Take that tin foil off your head man.
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Post by alancfc on Mar 11, 2020 14:12:17 GMT
Who receive the full support, and armament, of Iran's Quds Force and the revolutionary guard; whose sole purpose is to eradicate Israel and its Jews. The club would make a statement if a Neo-Nazi group claimed in our name. Excuse me? Are you saying that the BDS is an armed group? And comparing them to neo-Nazis? Take that tin foil off your head man. Another Corbynista here. Every terrorist organisation receives funding by funnelling 'contributions' through 'Humanitarian Charities', with the sole purpose of purchasing weapons. BDS may or may not be one such organisation. I have never said they're Hamas, however, they do directly or indirectly support them.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Mar 11, 2020 14:57:11 GMT
Excuse me? Are you saying that the BDS is an armed group? And comparing them to neo-Nazis? Take that tin foil off your head man. Another Corbynista here. Every terrorist organisation receives funding by funnelling 'contributions' through 'Humanitarian Charities', with the sole purpose of purchasing weapons. BDS may or may not be one such organisation. I have never said they're Hamas, however, they do directly or indirectly support them. So, as a Corbynista, do you think the new away kit will be yellow again, or whether they will go for something different?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Mar 11, 2020 16:03:46 GMT
So, as a Corbynista, do you think the new away kit will be yellow again, or whether they will go for something different? I was referring to the other poster, I'd happily slot corbyn right after jerry adams. I'm hoping green; yellow's fucking boring. What a very strange comparison to make.
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Post by Si on Mar 11, 2020 16:06:03 GMT
Thread locked due to political bollocks.
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