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Post by Matt on Nov 30, 2019 16:43:34 GMT
York and Kings Lynn both 1 up in their games.
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Post by Lobster on Nov 30, 2019 16:45:36 GMT
Brackely 6 up at Blyth, How did we get a 2-2 draw there We seem a bit iffy against weak sides, as we're showing today.
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Post by Matt on Nov 30, 2019 16:51:48 GMT
Brackely 6 up at Blyth, How did we get a 2-2 draw there We seem a bit iffy against weak sides, as we're showing today. Not sure if it's complacency other the sides upping their game. Probably both
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Post by Lobster on Nov 30, 2019 16:55:04 GMT
Sounded like we only played well for about 10 minutes. Still, I'll always take a shite 2-1 win.
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Post by Matt on Nov 30, 2019 16:57:25 GMT
FT 2-1. We certainly make it difficult for ourselves
York and Kings Lynn won 1-0
Noticed Alty have lost to Portsmouth 2-1 in the FA Cup, they were minutes away from probably a TV Replay but they conceded in the 92nd minute.
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Post by exiled on Nov 30, 2019 17:36:26 GMT
I think a few of us got carried away with our predictions, but not fussed about the performance 3 pts is what mattered.
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Post by jb on Nov 30, 2019 17:55:52 GMT
I thought Glendon was superb for Bradford today. Found their players with ease and never missed a white shirt. The through ball at the end for them was nearly a defence splitting piece of genius.
It was a lovely white shirt though. Nicest kit I’ve seen for a while.
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Post by bonecrusher on Nov 30, 2019 17:58:11 GMT
FT 2-1. We certainly make it difficult for ourselves York and Kings Lynn won 1-0 Noticed Alty have lost to Portsmouth 2-1 in the FA Cup, they were minutes away from probably a TV Replay but they conceded in the 92nd minute. Good.
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Post by nytram on Nov 30, 2019 18:17:35 GMT
That's two games at home we have won but and a big BUT we were dire for most of those matches. Well done dudley and wow what a goal from asante total class. I think we need to give glendon a rest today was an off day that could so easily lost us the game with some of his passes.
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Post by Si on Nov 30, 2019 18:20:31 GMT
Sloppy today and we huffed and puffed to earn the 3 points rather than the convincing win we all thought it would be. Credit to BPA though as I thought they closed us down well and looked better than the 9 points on their tally. It took a moment of quality to win the game, and that’s what Asante can provide. Take the scrappy 3 points and move on.
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Post by chesterken on Nov 30, 2019 18:23:27 GMT
We were in control for most of the game and Bradford scored totally against the run of play from another set piece where we just went to sleep ( how many times has that happened ) we then had a game with 21 players in one half of the pitch and they played a system where there were few gaps and they proved very hard to break down. Under a new manager and new players brought in they did not look like a side tailed off at the bottom , but justice was done and a good goal from Dudley and a fantastic strike by Asante meant the points were ours. I can only really remember the one effort on goal for Bradford they huffed and puffed in the last 20 minutes but never looked like scoring.
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Post by agl on Nov 30, 2019 18:24:02 GMT
That's two games at home we have won but and a big BUT we were dire for most of those matches. Well done dudley and wow what a goal from asante total class. I think we need to give glendon a rest today was an off day that could so easily lost us the game with some of his passes. Not sure what's happening with Glendon. He was anonymous at Brackley. Wonder if his enthusiasm is still there? Still, that's two league wins in a row. Just got to hang in there. I'd like to see a creative midfielder brought in and maybe some moves out....Waters, Mahon, Elliott or Waring.
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Post by devadiva on Nov 30, 2019 18:53:03 GMT
That was not pretty. I know a win is a win but:
- what was up with Glendon today - he had a shocker
- BPA had 11 behind the ball most of the time but when we had the opportunity to take some of them out of the game, Griffiths distribution was so glacial that they had more than enough time to track back
- for most of the game we had no attacking central midfield. Glendon and Stopforth are not creative/attacking central midfielders. The game begged for a Chester player to command midfield and spray the ball about (in a forwards direction)
- because of the above all we do is bypass midfield in attack and lump the ball up. Don’t get me wrong, some of Grand’s balls were good today but against a tall team they get cut out. That’s why we lack a cutting edge up front and aren’t putting 6 past teams like this in the way others seem able to do
- we played the ball so slowly, the BPA players could have had a 50 cigarette a day habit and still managed to get behind the ball with plenty of time to spare.
- when we play quick balls through midfield we cut teams apart, especially when we have great wingers (Jacko has a good game and the new chap looked good in first half but faded in the second) and Dudley and Asante making clever runs. When we speeded up for the first 15 mins of the second half we got 2 goals. Then we sat back and reverted to playing like the first half. By the end BPA were knocking it about and looking pretty good.
So Bern/Jonno - can we go back to the quick passing to feet game that we used to play for at least some of the time please - if only to keep opponents guessing?
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Post by billyw on Nov 30, 2019 18:59:02 GMT
That was not pretty. I know a win is a win but: - what was up with Glendon today - he had a shocker - BPA had 11 behind the ball most of the time but when we had the opportunity to take some of them out of the game, Griffiths distribution was so glacial that they had more than enough time to track back - for most of the game we had no attacking central midfield. Glendon and Stopforth are not creative/attacking central midfielders. The game begged for a Chester player to command midfield and spray the ball about (in a forwards direction) - because of the above all we do is bypass midfield in attack and lump the ball up. Don’t get me wrong, some of Grand’s balls were good today but against a tall team they get cut out. That’s why we lack a cutting edge up front and aren’t putting 6 past teams like this in the way others seem able to do - we played the ball so slowly, the BPA players could have had a 50 cigarette a day habit and still managed to get behind the ball with plenty of time to spare. - when we play quick balls through midfield we cut teams apart, especially when we have great wingers (Jacko has a good game and the new chap looked good in first half but faded in the second) and Dudley and Asante making clever runs. When we speeded up for the first 15 mins of the second half we got 2 goals. Then we sat back and reverted to playing like the first half. By the end BPA were knocking it about and looking pretty good. So Bern/Jonno - can we go back to the quick passing to feet game that we used to play for at least some of the time please - if only to keep opponents guessing? Great summing up.
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 30, 2019 19:24:58 GMT
That's two games at home we have won but and a big BUT we were dire for most of those matches. Well done dudley and wow what a goal from asante total class. I think we need to give glendon a rest today was an off day that could so easily lost us the game with some of his passes. Not sure what's happening with Glendon. He was anonymous at Brackley. Wonder if his enthusiasm is still there? Still, that's two league wins in a row. Just got to hang in there. I'd like to see a creative midfielder brought in and maybe some moves out....Waters, Mahon, Elliott or Waring. I think he's been like this for a while. He gets the ball. Passes it backwards. Then doesn't get into position to receive it back again. He slows us down. That's not our game. We are at our best when closing teams down and attacking at pace. He doesn't help with either . Last season we lost our way when Stopforth and Hughes got injured. They set the tempo for the rest of the team. We brought in more silky type players, but lost our identity. Glendon and Elton maybe this season's version.
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Post by devadiva on Nov 30, 2019 19:38:14 GMT
I thought Glendon was superb for Bradford today. Found their players with ease and never missed a white shirt. The through ball at the end for them was nearly a defence splitting piece of genius. It was a lovely white shirt though. Nicest kit I’ve seen for a while. I quite liked the BPA kit today too. It was a bit different. I’m not great with flags but With those colours I think it could also have doubled up as the national strip for the German and/or Belgium national teams as well!
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Post by Jack on Nov 30, 2019 19:38:15 GMT
Made hard work of it but a good 3 points. BPA were actually one of the better sides we've faced this season! Not much going forward but committed and well organised at the back.
The first 45 stank of complacency, like we thought we'd win 5 or 6. The improvement in the first 15 of the second showed you the gulf between the two sides, but we have to press and play with high intensity from the start of the game or else we'll be caught out.
Agree that Glendon had a stinker and I thought Morgan was quite poor today until the last 20 minutes too. Taylor head and shoulders the best player on the pitch. Thought Elton showed plenty of promise too, you can definitely see our left hand side being a real threat.
What was clear was that all of our best moments came when we got Dudley on the ball. We just had to be a bit more patient to get it to him. His touch is great and he manages to find space in the tightest areas. If we're going to play Stopforth and Glendon, there's a void of an attacking midfielder, but if we can get him on the ball then Dudley is more than good enough to be the link.
It's just about winning and keeping touch, job done today.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 30, 2019 19:43:23 GMT
That's two games at home we have won but and a big BUT we were dire for most of those matches. Well done dudley and wow what a goal from asante total class. I think we need to give glendon a rest today was an off day that could so easily lost us the game with some of his passes. Not sure what's happening with Glendon. He was anonymous at Brackley. Wonder if his enthusiasm is still there? Still, that's two league wins in a row. Just got to hang in there. I'd like to see a creative midfielder brought in and maybe some moves out....Waters, Mahon, Elliott or Waring. I certainly wouldnt ship Waring out. He is the only targetman we have and we have seen what happens when neither him or Asente play
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Nov 30, 2019 19:56:48 GMT
We made hard work of that. Bradford certainly didnt look like a side, at the bottom. Too many misplaced passes. The midfield sat too deep. Is this because Livesey and Grand lack pace and are unable to hold a high line? Glendon had a game to forget and Dudley did very little, in the first half but improved, after the break Its Ok playing a passing game, if it is played at speed. Some of our build up play was too slow and telegraphed, whuch allowed Bradford to close down the space. For 15 minutes we upped the tempo and it was enough to win the game , scoring 2 and narrowly missing another. But I will take scrappy wins all day long.
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Post by Harry Lime on Nov 30, 2019 20:19:01 GMT
I thought Bradford were very very limited with the ball. They had one shot from 25 yards, which went for the corner from which they scored. Other than that they just hoofed it, as they didn't gave the ability to do anything else.
Without the ball they were well organised and disciplined. Made it difficult for us to break them down. So much so, that I can't remember their keeper making a save.
The combination of their organisation, and the lack of pace we played at, made it a tough game. As someone else said, we need to find a way to beat the poorer teams in this league. Passing the ball around midfield at a slow tempo probably isn't it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 21:11:18 GMT
Very much hard work of that win but it's 3 points which we came away with
Agree with Glendon not at the game today
Elton done good
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Post by jb on Nov 30, 2019 21:18:46 GMT
I thought Glendon was superb for Bradford today. Found their players with ease and never missed a white shirt. The through ball at the end for them was nearly a defence splitting piece of genius. It was a lovely white shirt though. Nicest kit I’ve seen for a while. I quite liked the BPA kit today too. It was a bit different. I’m not great with flags but With those colours I think it could also have doubled up as the national strip for the German and/or Belgium national teams as well! Belgium colours they are. The Belgium national side had a similar kit in the Euros. I think Bradford also had an “Escape to Victory” kit a few years ago which was pretty stylish too. However, it may have been Whitby Town who actually wore it.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Nov 30, 2019 22:01:22 GMT
After an average first half things came to fruition in the second which extended our unbeaten run to four games. Bradford (Park Avenue) AFC did do their homework on us as they had plenty of men behind the ball and set themselves up to frustrate us. Their game plan did work to an extent, but once we figured out how to unlock their mean defence we found a way to win in relatively comfortable fashion. Our performance in general was pretty pleasing as we dominated possession and had a lot of chances.
Just like at Brackley last week the first half didn’t contain loads of goalmouth action as opportunities were at a premium for both sides. We had plenty of the ball and moved it around nicely, but our only constraint was that we were unable to find an opening in the final third. Bradford sat back a lot which did allow us to attack further up, but they were a tight knit group who set-up to cause us problems on the counter. One particular example was when Brad Jackson fired over for us, before Oli Johnson went up the pitch for Avenue only to shoot wide, which was a warning sign for us. 15 minutes into the encounter Billy Priestley made it 1-0 to Bradford (Park Avenue) AFC in what was a regrettable goal to concede. Jackson lazily gave the ball away to Alex Hurst in the build-up which caused him to test Russ Griffiths, who tipped the ball wide. The following corner went in, and our defence switched off which allowed Priestley to poke in. We went in search for the equaliser as Joel Taylor hit a free kick straight at former Guiseley ‘keeper Joe Green. Then, our best chance of the half fell to debutant Elton Ngwatala whose effort whistled just past the post. Just before the interval Anthony Dudley had a decent attempt as well because a header by him missed the target. I thought our first half display shown some decent signs, but despite our dominance we trudged into the break on the wrong side of the scoreline.
Meanwhile, the second period was much improved as on the attacking front we were much more clinical in the final third. Moments into the half Simon Grand had a great chance to equalise, but he couldn’t keep his cool as he fired over from a Joel Taylor corner. Once again Avenue went on the counter in search for a second, but fortunately Alex Hurst missed the target. However, we soon turned things around in a rather frantic period which saw us net twice in four minutes. First of all, Anthony Dudley notched in for us to make it 1-1 by scoring his second goal in as many games. He kept his composure once again in front of goal as he slotted the ball underneath Joe Green when one-on-one. Then, just minutes later Akwasi Asante announced his 1885 Arena return in some style as he netted a blockbuster to make it 2-1 to us. He had quite a lot of space to shoot on the edge of the area, so his rocket flew into the top right hand corner to send the Deva into raptures. Asante almost got another a minute later as he smacked the post following a very good delivery by Joel Taylor. The game quietened down after that as again there wasn’t much penalty box action. At times we lost our concentration a tad as we unnecessarily gave the ball away in some areas, but our opponents were unable to take advantage. On the 89th minute things got a whole lot worse for Bradford (Park Avenue) AFC as Isaac Marriot was shown a red card due to a clumsy, late tackle on Gary Stopforth. With minutes to spare Matty Hughes went close as an attempt from him went over the bar. We saw the game out to record another fine win which keeps us going.
A lot of our team did well today, but Joel Taylor just pips it for my man of the match. He put in one of his best displays as his jinking runs and desire to chase loose balls exposed Bradford in some stages. Taylor also made some great deliveries too, and on the whole he was so much better today compared to last weekend where he had a rare off day. Aside from that, Elton Ngwatala shown some glimpses of his potential as he looked tidy on the ball, and dribbled past Avenue’s defence a lot. I do think that he could be better suited further left though because he did try to overdo it at times, and I think that his pace out on the wing would be more suitable. Gary Stopforth was excellent as ever because he broke up the play well, and made some tough tackles. Anthony Dudley was much more effective today as in recent weeks he has been quiet when out of position. When he and Asante came on at Brackley last week they were both placed further up top which changed the game as Duds notched our winner. Again, he played an important part today as he netted our equaliser with a calm finish, and he was much more dangerous on the ball in his natural position.
A win is a win at the end of the day, and I am really pleased that we came from behind which psychologically can be hard to do at times. Next up is a trip to the beloved North East as we will make the venture to play Darlington away next Saturday. After an astonishing run of six consecutive victories, The Quakers have disintegrated in recent weeks as they have lost three of their last four matches, so hopefully we will add to their wobbly form. Hopefully we won’t have to face another postponement as we need to play in order to carry on our momentum.
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Post by Anders on Dec 1, 2019 1:29:27 GMT
Played well for ten minutes and that was all that was needed really. BPA sat back and were fairly well organised in fairness but I’m not sure that’ll be enough to save them.
First half was poor, strangely too pedestrian and hurried at the same time, didn’t get the ball forward quick enough but the back and sideward stuff was played at a fast tempo. Came out all guns blazing straight after the break and completely took them off their feet.
Taylor was our best, good display up front and at the back for him. Dudley grew in to the game and Ngwatala showed some promising signs, will be even better when some of that rustiness is shaken off. Grand impressed me today though, took the armband and was our only player trying to get the ball forward quickly in the first half. His distribution is usually bloody dreadful but he probably successfully completed more passes today than in his last ten games put together. I’ll forgive him one bad mistake in the second half, as a defender I wish we’d had him years ago.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Dec 1, 2019 8:16:13 GMT
Heard quite a few people at HT say how bad it was but I didn't quite agree. It was largely the final ball that let us down, I thought most of our approach play was still alright. We certainly didn't deserve to go in 1 down.
2nd half we needed to up the tempo and we did. We could easily have killed them off completely in that 10/15 min spell but at 2-1 they were still in it and actually started playing football.
I'm a little disappointed we struggled to create after that spell but overall we deserved the win. BPA look like prime relegation fodder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 8:39:21 GMT
It was as cold as I’ve felt for a long time and the pitch was freezing too by full time! Possession stats would probably be around the 75% to their 25% with the ball being totally dominated by Chester. A couple of half chances in the first half through the new boy and a header from Dudley but as most have already said the play forwards was often too slow. Whatever was said at HT worked a treat as the game should have been stalked up at 4-1 by the 60th minute. There was a lull after that until the subs came on as Elliott injected some real pace to the game. All in all a huge win with both KL, York and Southport all winning also by a 1 goal margin.
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Post by agl on Dec 1, 2019 8:49:48 GMT
Not sure what's happening with Glendon. He was anonymous at Brackley. Wonder if his enthusiasm is still there? Still, that's two league wins in a row. Just got to hang in there. I'd like to see a creative midfielder brought in and maybe some moves out....Waters, Mahon, Elliott or Waring. I certainly wouldnt ship Waring out. He is the only targetman we have and we have seen what happens when neither him or Asente play I agree that we need a target man as plan B. The dilemma is that Asante plays when he's fit, but Waring has been struggling recently when he has come in. I guess it's a question of whether we can improve on what we have up front. Maybe not.
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Post by Harry Lime on Dec 1, 2019 9:06:50 GMT
I certainly wouldnt ship Waring out. He is the only targetman we have and we have seen what happens when neither him or Asente play I agree that we need a target man as plan B. The dilemma is that Asante plays when he's fit, but Waring has been struggling recently when he has come in. I guess it's a question of whether we can improve on what we have up front. Maybe not. Agreed. We'll need a Waring type player at times this season. Might have needed him yesterday. Waring actually gets into positions to score, but then misses. Team have to mark him, as he's dangerous in the air, that creates space elsewhere. Usually behind them, as they push up to keep him away from the area. Elliot is an inexperienced player, who has real pace and a good left foot. They are different to Asante, Hughes and Dudley. We do have options with that lot. Is there better out there we could get in? Leave that to the managers .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 11:14:00 GMT
Many others on here have summed it up perfectly. 10 minutes of half-decent football and 80 minutes which were, let's be frank, pretty poor Our lack of creativity recently does worry me, but we're still scoring so all is not doom and gloom. At "half pace" we're a distinctly average team, up the pace and we're capable of ripping any team in this league to shreds. All we need to do is get back to that high tempo that we had earlier in the season.
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Post by g1 on Dec 1, 2019 11:36:01 GMT
Well we r winning ugly but winning that's the key 2 great finishes having 2 players who can finish like that is a plus negative is poor passing Glendon wasn't great nor was Morgan motm was right in Taylor but think Jackson deserves a mention onto darlo
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