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Post by Churton Blue on Feb 10, 2020 8:16:29 GMT
I don't get why you seem unhappy with the arrangement? We've had the Harry McNally Terrace for over 10 years without company sponsorship. Nobody has even batted an eyelid over it.. Strangely enough I was talking to a couple of supporters last week who thought we were throwing away valuable income by not having the Harry McNally Terrace sponsored....... |
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 10, 2020 9:42:47 GMT
I doubt Swansway would commit to a sponsorship deal if mid-season they realise they can’t afford it. My guess would be they weren’t happy with the value of the deal so Murphy paid them up. Agree with the issues/questions raised by CB
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 10, 2020 10:22:54 GMT
I think the concern from some is, at best, this is laziness in terms of not sourcing a new sponsor and, at worst, it’s yet again relying on our generous benefactor and allowing a sort of takeover by stealth. We know there has been a previous outright ownership bid rejected, we know the proposed 1885 development bid includes ownership of the land and the ground, we know our generous benefactor has recurrently chipped in here and there whenever a cash boost is needed, and it also seems that one or two in positions of power have had their heads turned and are decrying the very nature of fan ownership.
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Post by Matt on Feb 10, 2020 10:27:14 GMT
I doubt Swansway would commit to a sponsorship deal if mid-season they realise they can’t afford it. My guess would be they weren’t happy with the value of the deal so Murphy paid them up. Agree with the issues/questions raised by CB Wasn't Swansway the reason the main stand was painted black? |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Feb 10, 2020 10:46:11 GMT
I doubt Swansway would commit to a sponsorship deal if mid-season they realise they can’t afford it. My guess would be they weren’t happy with the value of the deal so Murphy paid them up. Agree with the issues/questions raised by CB Why would the club or Murphy pay Swansway anything? If anything Murphy would be paying the club the shortfall that Swansway are no longer able to. Unless this deal was never a sponsorship in the first place? |
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 10, 2020 10:51:48 GMT
I doubt Swansway would commit to a sponsorship deal if mid-season they realise they can’t afford it. My guess would be they weren’t happy with the value of the deal so Murphy paid them up. Agree with the issues/questions raised by CB Why would the club or Murphy pay Swansway anything? If anything Murphy would be paying the club the shortfall that Swansway are no longer able to. Unless this deal was never a sponsorship in the first place? Sorry, miss-worded, meant to say Murphy paid the club whatever remaining balance Swansway had to pay. I’m just not sure how Swansway can commit x amount for the duration of their sponsorship yet midway realise they’re can’t afford it. Doesn’t sound plausible to me. |
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Post by devadiva on Feb 10, 2020 11:29:57 GMT
I think some clarity from the Club would be welcome re this. And I completely agree with others, that naming and sponsoring a stand are not (and should not) be mutually exclusive - at our level that would be bonkers from a commercial perspective.
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Post by devadiva on Feb 10, 2020 11:32:19 GMT
...and to get it back on thread, the Liverpool v Arsenal game is great thing to have snaffled - not only from a revenue perspective (hopefully we only agreed to it because we make some profit from doing so?) but also because we've nicked it from Tranmere.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 10, 2020 11:55:27 GMT
I doubt Swansway would commit to a sponsorship deal if mid-season they realise they can’t afford it. My guess would be they weren’t happy with the value of the deal so Murphy paid them up. Agree with the issues/questions raised by CB Wasn't Swansway the reason the main stand was painted black?Sympathy for the Devil. |
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Post by avfo on Feb 12, 2020 15:01:37 GMT
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Feb 12, 2020 16:40:54 GMT
I think the concern from some is, at best, this is laziness in terms of not sourcing a new sponsor and, at worst, it’s yet again relying on our generous benefactor and allowing a sort of takeover by stealth. We know there has been a previous outright ownership bid rejected, we know the proposed 1885 development bid includes ownership of the land and the ground, we know our generous benefactor has recurrently chipped in here and there whenever a cash boost is needed, and it also seems that one or two in positions of power have had their heads turned and are decrying the very nature of fan ownership. It would appear that our board seem happy to take SM's money and run with it, which is a worry with legacy debt and/or could be a gateway to takeover by stealth. I believe that Richard Lynes is no longer on the board, and heard a rumour that the overwhelming reliance on handouts from Stuart Murphy was a contributing factor to this? |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 12, 2020 17:15:34 GMT
I didn’t know Richard had stepped down and of course wouldn’t know the reason(s) why, but I do know that there’s definitely one board member, possibly more, who doesn’t think fan ownership is working for us and appears more than happy to let Stuart Murphy run the show.
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Post by chesterken on Feb 12, 2020 17:28:44 GMT
Why are people turning a thread about Liverpool Ladies into another moan fest about the way the clubs is run, if you feel so strongly about it get your names down for board membership and you will then have a voice from with in,
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Feb 12, 2020 22:34:32 GMT
Why are people turning a thread about Liverpool Ladies into another moan fest about the way the clubs is run, if you feel so strongly about it get your names down for board membership and you will then have a voice from with in, You could not have missed the point more. The point being made is that if we carry on as we are, supporters wont have the chance to stand for the board. |
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Post by Si on Feb 12, 2020 23:14:16 GMT
Any more posts on this thread that arent about the title then it's getting locked.
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Post by gezzer on Feb 13, 2020 8:07:34 GMT
On tonight
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Post by sqzl on Feb 13, 2020 19:31:02 GMT
Why would the club or Murphy pay Swansway anything? If anything Murphy would be paying the club the shortfall that Swansway are no longer able to. Unless this deal was never a sponsorship in the first place? Sorry, miss-worded, meant to say Murphy paid the club whatever remaining balance Swansway had to pay. I’m just not sure how Swansway can commit x amount for the duration of their sponsorship yet midway realise they’re can’t afford it. Doesn’t sound plausible to me. This happens regularly in business. Being an accountant now since I finished Uni 7 years ago, I’ve not worked anywhere so far where I haven’t done a reforecast in January. Assuming Swansway are not achieving their surplus/profit each month, or even ending months in deficit, it seems perfectly normal for them to cut back on their advertising budget. I would think it’s nothing to worry about at all. |
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Post by sqzl on Feb 13, 2020 19:32:25 GMT
I think it’s a brilliant advert for us to host the match tonight. Looking forward to seeing us on television! I hope something good comes of it, even a small partnership would be very good for the club.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 13, 2020 20:00:49 GMT
2-2 at half time - Liverpool holding their own against Arsenal’s star-studded lineup.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 13, 2020 20:50:21 GMT
Attendance of 660 seems disappointing. Trying to find out how many they normally get at Tranmere.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 13, 2020 21:00:15 GMT
Well their average gate this season is over 5,000.
Probably helped by the 23,500 who watched the Merseyside derby, though of course that was at Anfield.
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Post by Matt on Feb 13, 2020 21:01:26 GMT
This season it’s been between 900-1500 at Prenton Park highest was 1,800 when they played Everton.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Feb 13, 2020 21:02:49 GMT
This season it’s been between 900-1500 at Prenton Park highest was 1,800 when they played Everton. 23,500 actually. |
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Post by Lobster on Feb 13, 2020 21:31:17 GMT
Not that bad then I suppose, given it was moved at short notice and is outside of Merseyside.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Feb 13, 2020 21:59:22 GMT
Barring the Everton game, Liverpool’s average attendance for the season (including all cup games) prior to tonight was 702, so considering it being on a Thursday night and the change of venue, 660 isn’t bad at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if the rest of their games are held here because I highly doubt they will go back to Tranmere, so extra money in the pot for us will do us nicely.
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Post by dmcnally on Feb 13, 2020 22:01:12 GMT
Barring the Everton game, Liverpool’s average attendance for the season (including all cup games) prior to tonight was 702, so considering it being on a Thursday night and the change of venue, 660 isn’t bad at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if the rest of their games are held here because I highly doubt they will go back to Tranmere, so extra money in the pot for us will do us nicely. Got to draw a line somewhere, seeing that pitch tonight it's not going to cope with many extra fixtures on top of our first team. |
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Post by sealandroadender on Feb 13, 2020 22:18:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2020 23:48:19 GMT
Always love seeing all those Camera Angles at the Deva, what I wouldn't give for the stanchion to be a permanent fixture so we could film from there for the highlights package, the guys do a tremendous job with what we produce now but imagine having access to all the different views and the raised platform. Also that 3rd goal was a superb hit. |
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Post by hackett on Feb 14, 2020 2:34:49 GMT
Barring the Everton game, Liverpool’s average attendance for the season (including all cup games) prior to tonight was 702, so considering it being on a Thursday night and the change of venue, 660 isn’t bad at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if the rest of their games are held here because I highly doubt they will go back to Tranmere, so extra money in the pot for us will do us nicely. Got to draw a line somewhere, seeing that pitch tonight it's not going to cope with many extra fixtures on top of our first team. This isn't a decision the board can make, it's a decision for the grounds team. |
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Post by nlb17 on Feb 14, 2020 9:34:51 GMT
Great to see the Deva on BBC Breakfast this morning.
Congratulations to whoever thought to put up the 'We are Chester' banner in the Harry Mac!
Great exposure.
Well done to everyone at the club
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