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Post by RonD on Feb 23, 2020 9:42:06 GMT
Do the referees make a report at our level? If so we could be in trouble for the pitch invader after the winning goal. The Brackley players 'over egged' the celebrations for sure, but that can't be an excuse.
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Post by Jack on Feb 23, 2020 11:40:51 GMT
Was stood right next to the incident in the Harry Mac.
Totally understand that celebrating in front of opposition fans is part of the game, but this wasn't celebrating it was just being repeatedly and aggressively told to 'f**k of you c**tsf' by some non-league journeymen. It was a strange incident.
When you carry on like that and there's literally a small yellow gate between you, you cannot be that shocked when somebody objects to it. Of course, you don't enter the pitch, but if they'd done that at a bigger crowd, there could easily have been a major incident.
Funnily enough, it's always the same teams that carry on like that. Brackley are a classic example - village team, play in front of 200 odd. In a way, you can sort of see why their players get over-excited.
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Post by sealking on Feb 23, 2020 13:14:00 GMT
And their players did it again at the final whistle, ref should be having a word with the players not our stewards.
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Post by Lobster on Feb 23, 2020 16:34:29 GMT
It's time the authorities did something about it. I've always found it strange how officious they are about things like players removing their shirt when they score or celebrating with their own fans, yet they don't seem bothered about playing goading opposition supporters, which is far more likely to result in someone overstepping the mark.
It's often pure aggression rather than any sort of light-hearted banter. You can tell these are the sort of lads who if you took them on a night out, they'd barely manage two pints before getting in a fight with a barmaid and then being sick in their shoes.
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Post by bonecrusher on Feb 23, 2020 16:34:30 GMT
Ultimately though, you can't go over or through the barrier even if one of the opposition is being a jerk. We all know the rules. Just reign it in.
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Post by archwhopper on Feb 23, 2020 21:18:19 GMT
Missed any pitch invader, must of been in shock at what had just happened, big ron would of sorted it out 😒
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Post by villagercfc on Feb 24, 2020 13:33:22 GMT
The steward does not show himself in a good light though does he. The fella was just allowed to walk through the gate and the steward held one arm out to stop him. Very poor and probably more training needed in my opinion.
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Post by Matt on Feb 24, 2020 18:28:34 GMT
Nothing wrong with it, Glendon went right up to King Lynns fans on Tuesday and we thought it was funny.
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Post by jayhawks on Feb 24, 2020 18:43:43 GMT
The Pitch Invader was having numerous bust a blood vessel moments before he stormed through the gate and generally over the smallest things. The guy just needs to chill out a little.
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Post by stavros on Feb 24, 2020 19:01:41 GMT
No one seemed too bothered when Ben Davies, Daryl Clare and Kevin Ellison used to do week in week out, or when one of our lads did it earlier in the week. If he was shouting that over and over then he hasn’t covered himself in glory and I guess he equally could feature in the refs report. It doesn’t completely make it right but I do understand it if the player has had dogs abuse, it’s a really wierd thing to do if not though. Remember Tranmere being a bit epic at it in the conference. Had to laugh though at the video of grown men flying around the terrace to do some serious posturing 😂😂. Didn’t notice it at the time. Too much football away days on Facebook Tough one for the stewards, he was a bit weak but equally he would have got a reaction at the time and pelters on here if he had clothes lined him or dumped him back in the terrace
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Post by weareblues on Feb 24, 2020 21:21:42 GMT
The steward does not show himself in a good light though does he. The fella was just allowed to walk through the gate and the steward held one arm out to stop him. Very poor and probably more training needed in my opinion. 99% time Stewards are twats in home end and let the away fans get away with murder
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Post by utb on Feb 25, 2020 0:56:52 GMT
Just seen the highlights on YT. That shithouse with the flat cap who ran to the front and spat at their players should be banned. No excuse for that!
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Post by Lobster on Feb 25, 2020 8:17:45 GMT
Nothing wrong with it, Glendon went right up to King Lynns fans on Tuesday and we thought it was funny. Don't like it myself, for or against us.
Some footballers seem a bit agitated. You're supposed to be happy when you score, not angry!
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Post by billyw on Feb 25, 2020 13:27:01 GMT
Do the referees make a report at our level? If so we could be in trouble for the pitch invader after the winning goal. The Brackley players 'over egged' the celebrations for sure, but that can't be an excuse. See official website, the club has just issued a statement
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Post by weareblues on Feb 25, 2020 14:13:56 GMT
Do the referees make a report at our level? If so we could be in trouble for the pitch invader after the winning goal. The Brackley players 'over egged' the celebrations for sure, but that can't be an excuse. See official website, the club has just issued a statement Joke of a statement too
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Post by Jack on Feb 25, 2020 18:37:44 GMT
Don't disagree at all with the tone of the statement, nor the idea that it's ridiculous to enter the pitch to confront a player.
But I think we need to be clear on the distinction between goading the opposition fans and repeatedly and aggressively swearing at/insulting them from literally 3 feet away. One is acceptable, the other isn't.
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Post by bonecrusher on Feb 25, 2020 18:39:46 GMT
See official website, the club has just issued a statement Joke of a statement too No it isn't. What is sadly far from a joke is comments like yours and the embarrassing reaction on twitter to the club statement. When you make a stand against discrimination and its shot down with people whinging about being taunted by players it demonstrates much of what is wrong with society. Read the statement. Someone has clearly used discriminatory language towards another person. Could be racist, homophobic, sexist, I don't know as the incident isn't described. But who is trying to defend this under any circumstances? It beggars belief. Everyone is happy to dish out abuse to opposition players and then have a hissy fit when they dare to have a go back. It happens - get over it. Our players do it and we love it. This sort of moaning from our fans over what I think is a perfectly reasonable club statement, and one that I personally support in full is shameful. Utterly embarrassing.
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Post by bonecrusher on Feb 25, 2020 18:40:58 GMT
Don't disagree at all with the tone of the statement, nor the idea that it's ridiculous to enter the pitch to confront a player. But I think we need to be clear on the distinction between goading the opposition fans and repeatedly and aggressively swearing at/insulting them from literally 3 feet away. One is acceptable, the other isn't. Agree with that and it should be addressed. But reacting with discriminatory behaviour is just as bad. It's not time for us to get on our high horse here.
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Post by bonecrusher on Feb 25, 2020 18:43:21 GMT
Just seen the highlights on YT. That shithouse with the flat cap who ran to the front and spat at their players should be banned. No excuse for that! That's a grown man. Get your head round what a moron you must be to react like that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 19:46:23 GMT
I do hope the stewards in the West Stand corner where away fans are allocated will now be kicking them out if they enter the field of play instead of giving them a leg over back in to the stand so they can hide with their mates
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Post by utb on Feb 25, 2020 19:55:46 GMT
At the end of the day, players celebrating in front of the opposition support has always been met by double standards among every set of fans in the country. You love it when their yours and hate it when you end up on the wrong end of it. For example, if John Johnston scores when we go to Alty and gives it to their fans, he’ll be awarded hero status on here. It is what it is, just deal with it.
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Post by weareblues on Feb 25, 2020 23:22:16 GMT
No it isn't. What is sadly far from a joke is comments like yours and the embarrassing reaction on twitter to the club statement. When you make a stand against discrimination and its shot down with people whinging about being taunted by players it demonstrates much of what is wrong with society. Read the statement. Someone has clearly used discriminatory language towards another person. Could be racist, homophobic, sexist, I don't know as the incident isn't described. But who is trying to defend this under any circumstances? It beggars belief. Everyone is happy to dish out abuse to opposition players and then have a hissy fit when they dare to have a go back. It happens - get over it. Our players do it and we love it. This sort of moaning from our fans over what I think is a perfectly reasonable club statement, and one that I personally support in full is shameful. Utterly embarrassing. It is a joke though ? Going in about ‘ several offences this season’ which is total nonsense Away fans get away with murder at our ground and the Stewards are a complete joke in the home end n all it’s a very known fact and Poveys a liar too But that’s swept to one side aint it
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Post by bluemission on Feb 25, 2020 23:53:31 GMT
No it isn't. What is sadly far from a joke is comments like yours and the embarrassing reaction on twitter to the club statement. When you make a stand against discrimination and its shot down with people whinging about being taunted by players it demonstrates much of what is wrong with society. Read the statement. Someone has clearly used discriminatory language towards another person. Could be racist, homophobic, sexist, I don't know as the incident isn't described. But who is trying to defend this under any circumstances? It beggars belief. Everyone is happy to dish out abuse to opposition players and then have a hissy fit when they dare to have a go back. It happens - get over it. Our players do it and we love it. This sort of moaning from our fans over what I think is a perfectly reasonable club statement, and one that I personally support in full is shameful. Utterly embarrassing. It is a joke though ? Going in about ‘ several offences this season’ which is total nonsense Away fans get away with murder at our ground and the Stewards are a complete joke in the home end n all it’s a very known fact and Poveys a liar too But that’s swept to one side aint it There was one against Kings Lynn in the last minute and one on Saturdays which is two instances in the last two home games.
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Post by weareblues on Feb 26, 2020 7:01:38 GMT
It is a joke though ? Going in about ‘ several offences this season’ which is total nonsense Away fans get away with murder at our ground and the Stewards are a complete joke in the home end n all it’s a very known fact and Poveys a liar too But that’s swept to one side aint it There was one against Kings Lynn in the last minute and one on Saturdays which is two instances in the last two home games. No one entered the field of play there for not a pitch invasion is it Only ones to go on pitch at the deva this season is away fans... nothing happens to them 😂
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Post by eyeswideopen on Feb 26, 2020 7:14:39 GMT
Never really understood why fans of away teams dont have more to say when their players decide to goad the home opposition when they have scored. Its the away fans that have made the effort to travel and support their team, the least the players can do is acknowledge that rather than intimidate people they have absolutely no affiliation with.
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Post by weareblues on Feb 26, 2020 7:47:09 GMT
Never really understood why fans of away teams dont have more to say when their players decide to goad the home opposition when they have scored. Its the away fans that have made the effort to travel and support their team, the least the players can do is acknowledge that rather than intimidate people they have absolutely no affiliation with. Probably because there was about 15 in the away end Small clubs like brackley always have that mentality though it’s there big day out
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Feb 26, 2020 9:11:22 GMT
Never really understood why fans of away teams dont have more to say when their players decide to goad the home opposition when they have scored. Its the away fans that have made the effort to travel and support their team, the least the players can do is acknowledge that rather than intimidate people they have absolutely no affiliation with. I have never understood why the governing bodies have never clamped down on it as it is incitement. I can understand a player who has taken a load of stick off opposition fans doing it, just not some random who has scored a lucky goal like their lad on Saturday. It is a matter of time before a player doing this results in serious disorder, that prick from Tranmere a couple of years ago nearly broke me. Booking someone for removing their shirt but allowing them to goad supporters seems stupid? That said, the lad going on the pitch to confront him is daft. Everybody knows that getting caught for pitch invasion will result in a ban and a fine. What I would like to see though is everybody treated the same. We must as a club have video evidence of pitch invaders from the away end, so should look to identify those and get them arrested also? I would like the safety officer to come out and explain why the rules seemingly differ for the home and away spectators?
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Post by Lobster on Feb 26, 2020 10:13:54 GMT
Never really understood why fans of away teams dont have more to say when their players decide to goad the home opposition when they have scored. Its the away fans that have made the effort to travel and support their team, the least the players can do is acknowledge that rather than intimidate people they have absolutely no affiliation with. I have never understood why the governing bodies have never clamped down on it as it is incitement. I can understand a player who has taken a load of stick off opposition fans doing it, just not some random who has scored a lucky goal like their lad on Saturday. It is a matter of time before a player doing this results in serious disorder, that prick from Tranmere a couple of years ago nearly broke me. Booking someone for removing their shirt but allowing them to goad supporters seems stupid? That said, the lad going on the pitch to confront him is daft. Everybody knows that getting caught for pitch invasion will result in a ban and a fine. What I would like to see though is everybody treated the same. We must as a club have video evidence of pitch invaders from the away end, so should look to identify those and get them arrested also? I would like the safety officer to come out and explain why the rules seemingly differ for the home and away spectators? Agree with most of your post but I think you have to consider the context of the two situations.
Not saying either is OK, there's a difference between running onto the pitch because you're angry at an opposition player, and doing it to celebrate with your own players after a goal. Adopting a heavy-handed approach with away fans could make the situation worse and cause a bit of a kick-off. In truth, in cases like the Leamington game, it's probably best to just let one or two away fans run on the pitch as long as they're not endangering anyone.
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Post by Si on Feb 26, 2020 12:19:48 GMT
Too many people on here saying 'we' love it when our players do. Sorry, but I don't. If John Johnson does it at Alty then it aside from the fact that he's celebrating in front of the opposition i'd also think he's a dick for celebrating in front of fans who he represented this very season.
Didn't like it when Andy Cook made it a yearly habit, and don't like it when anyone does it. I can understand the temptation if a player has been getting dogs abuse and then they want to give something back. At best I can understand a quick raised fist and a cheer towards the opposition fans but bouncing along the terrace and the west stand like that Kings Lynn bellend and screaming abuse yards away from fans is not acceptable in any walk of life. And I'm not excusing the the guy who got on the pitch either, as frustrating as it is you have to take it on the chin, that's football sometimes.
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