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Post by villagercfc on Mar 8, 2020 2:34:07 GMT
What’s people’s thoughts of the management (mainly Jonno) use of Twitter?
For me, I think it shows us as very amateur. Like when we signed JJ with the picture of the arm, just to get bites from other fans. Do you see any other managers behave in this manner on social media? No you don’t.
They seem to talk a good game but can talk the talk but can’t walk the walk springs to mind.
These are not the long term option for the club I’m afraid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 4:27:09 GMT
I'm of the opinion that they can utilise social media in any way they want, as long as they conduct themselves in a decent way. The arm Picture I genuinely believe was misconstrued by Altrincham fans as a wind up and was only intended to generate excitement among Chester fans. We can criticise the Managers for many things but honestly the use of social media should not come into it. How often do we hear on here about people not being able express their views without fear of persecution.
These guys aren't premier league managers they have regular jobs and are regular people, They'll be plenty of posters on this forum who earn more than them. I think we'd do well to remember that they are actual normal human beings who do a days work as well as manage a Football Team, We're all hurting from the result today but to start picking apart everything they do to find fault seems churlish. I'll openly admit to favouring the managers so I'm obviously biased but they have walked the walk when it comes to winning this league and their win percentage is still great compared to any replacements I can bring to mind. This is the national league north, part time football great managers(and keepers) who will guide the club to successive promotions don't grow on trees.
With the contracts they have and as the Club sits in the pyramid all we can do is support the club and get behind the team, trying to find fault with the minutia will only lead to increased ill feeling which won't get us anywhere.
n.b. Just had a look through your post history (night shift and bored) you've 26 posts on this forum every single one of them is excessively negative towards the club covering stewards, board members, volunteers and the mangers. So I suppose this is all falling on deaf ears. all the best. UTS
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Mar 8, 2020 7:17:51 GMT
They can do what they like but they’ve got to be prepared to take the rough with the smooth, especially with our fanbase.
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Post by billyw on Mar 8, 2020 7:56:23 GMT
What’s people’s thoughts of the management (mainly Jonno) use of Twitter? For me, I think it shows us as very amateur. Like when we signed JJ with the picture of the arm, just to get bites from other fans. Do you see any other managers behave in this manner on social media? No you don’t. They seem to talk a good game but can talk the talk but can’t walk the walk springs to mind. These are not the long term option for the club I’m afraid. Agreed. Very amateurish. |
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 8, 2020 9:21:12 GMT
It seems we are in exactly the same position as we were 2 years ago with McCarthy. Should we or should we not sack? Failing managers with an unearned long contract extension. I know this sounds premature, but if we fail to reach the play-offs this must be deemed failure.
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Post by trev on Mar 8, 2020 10:29:07 GMT
It seems we are in exactly the same position as we were 2 years ago with McCarthy. Should we or should we not sack? Failing managers with an unearned long contract extension. I know this sounds premature, but if we fail to reach the play-offs this must be deemed failure. Suppose it depends on what first team performance objectives were set by the board (and SM ?) for this season - beyond avoiding relegation of course ! |
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Post by exiled on Mar 8, 2020 10:43:01 GMT
Things haven't panned out as they would have liked for whatever reason, but IMO as in any job if you put yourself in the public eye you open you self up to flack when things go wrong and are publicly judged which is acceptable ( it comes with the territory) But what isn't acceptable is personal insults and threats.
That's the problem with social media it can and does attract trolls.
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Post by villagercfc on Mar 8, 2020 11:47:29 GMT
Do people actually believe these are the solution long term?
We have had too many of these defeats, I don’t mind losing, it’s the manner in which we lose.
If we don’t go up this season, which would be a miracle, we should consider their position in my opinion.
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Post by villagercfc on Mar 8, 2020 11:50:14 GMT
I'm of the opinion that they can utilise social media in any way they want, as long as they conduct themselves in a decent way. The arm Picture I genuinely believe was misconstrued by Altrincham fans as a wind up and was only intended to generate excitement among Chester fans. We can criticise the Managers for many things but honestly the use of social media should not come into it. How often do we hear on here about people not being able express their views without fear of persecution. These guys aren't premier league managers they have regular jobs and are regular people, They'll be plenty of posters on this forum who earn more than them. I think we'd do well to remember that they are actual normal human beings who do a days work as well as manage a Football Team, We're all hurting from the result today but to start picking apart everything they do to find fault seems churlish. I'll openly admit to favouring the managers so I'm obviously biased but they have walked the walk when it comes to winning this league and their win percentage is still great compared to any replacements I can bring to mind. This is the national league north, part time football great managers(and keepers) who will guide the club to successive promotions don't grow on trees. With the contracts they have and as the Club sits in the pyramid all we can do is support the club and get behind the team, trying to find fault with the minutia will only lead to increased ill feeling which won't get us anywhere. n.b. Just had a look through your post history (night shift and bored) you've 26 posts on this forum every single one of them is excessively negative towards the club covering stewards, board members, volunteers and the mangers. So I suppose this is all falling on deaf ears. all the best. UTS Sorry, I’ll happy clap in future like the majority and pretend everything is brilliant! |
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 8, 2020 12:36:25 GMT
Do people actually believe these are the solution long term? We have had too many of these defeats, I don’t mind losing, it’s the manner in which we lose. If we don’t go up this season, which would be a miracle, we should consider their position in my opinion. We aren't going up this season. We'll be lucky to make 7th. |
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Post by dmcnally on Mar 8, 2020 13:24:04 GMT
It seems we are in exactly the same position as we were 2 years ago with McCarthy. Should we or should we not sack? Failing managers with an unearned long contract extension. I know this sounds premature, but if we fail to reach the play-offs this must be deemed failure. Suppose it depends on what first team performance objectives were set by the board (and SM ?) for this season - beyond avoiding relegation of course ! The budget should see us into the playoffs. The squad has the quality to win the title. That’s the way I see it. Fail to make the playoffs and Bern and Jonno couldn’t have any complaints if Murphy exerted his financial power once more... |
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Post by billyw on Mar 8, 2020 13:42:50 GMT
Do people actually believe these are the solution long term? We have had too many of these defeats, I don’t mind losing, it’s the manner in which we lose. If we don’t go up this season, which would be a miracle, we should consider their position in my opinion. Agreed. We don’t expect to win every match and have no divine right to get promotion but I do expect to see a team put out that is at least organised and has some semblance of tactics. We have had several humiliating defeats under Johnson and Morley but they never know what the problem, is so have no idea how to address it. |
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Post by weareblues on Mar 8, 2020 13:52:30 GMT
It seems we are in exactly the same position as we were 2 years ago with McCarthy. Should we or should we not sack? Failing managers with an unearned long contract extension. I know this sounds premature, but if we fail to reach the play-offs this must be deemed failure. Oh my god you’ve gotta he taking the piss now |
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Post by villagercfc on Mar 8, 2020 14:28:59 GMT
Suppose it depends on what first team performance objectives were set by the board (and SM ?) for this season - beyond avoiding relegation of course ! The budget should see us into the playoffs. The squad has the quality to win the title. That’s the way I see it. Fail to make the playoffs and Bern and Jonno couldn’t have any complaints if Murphy exerted his financial power once more... Completely agree. I think their treatment of Griffiths too has been so poor. Yes he makes mistakes granted, but to bring in a keeper who is no better does not make sense. Going back to why the thread was created, you don’t see any other managers in the whole of English football the way ours behave on social media. It’s unprofessional, end of. |
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Post by Si on Mar 8, 2020 14:36:25 GMT
The budget should see us into the playoffs. The squad has the quality to win the title. That’s the way I see it. Fail to make the playoffs and Bern and Jonno couldn’t have any complaints if Murphy exerted his financial power once more... Completely agree. I think their treatment of Griffiths too has been so poor. Yes he makes mistakes granted, but to bring in a keeper who is no better does not make sense. Going back to why the thread was created, you don’t see any other managers in the whole of English football the way ours behave on social media. It’s unprofessional, end of. Russ was making too many errors of late so it made sense to take him out of the firing line. Good management I’d say. As for the keeper being no better, he had had ONE game ffs. |
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Post by Moltisanti on Mar 8, 2020 14:41:26 GMT
Completely agree. I think their treatment of Griffiths too has been so poor. Yes he makes mistakes granted, but to bring in a keeper who is no better does not make sense. Going back to why the thread was created, you don’t see any other managers in the whole of English football the way ours behave on social media. It’s unprofessional, end of. Russ was making too many errors of late so it made sense to take him out of the firing line. Good management I’d say. As for the keeper being no better, he had had ONE game ffs. This. 👏🏻 |
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Post by g1 on Mar 8, 2020 15:05:11 GMT
The budget should see us into the playoffs. The squad has the quality to win the title. That’s the way I see it. Fail to make the playoffs and Bern and Jonno couldn’t have any complaints if Murphy exerted his financial power once more... Completely agree. I think their treatment of Griffiths too has been so poor. Yes he makes mistakes granted, but to bring in a keeper who is no better does not make sense. Going back to why the thread was created, you don’t see any other managers in the whole of English football the way ours behave on social media. It’s unprofessional, end of. Russ needed time out but to say this goalie is no better when he's played 2 games is codswallop he needs time |
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Post by g1 on Mar 8, 2020 15:06:48 GMT
Suppose it depends on what first team performance objectives were set by the board (and SM ?) for this season - beyond avoiding relegation of course ! The budget should see us into the playoffs. The squad has the quality to win the title. That’s the way I see it. Fail to make the playoffs and Bern and Jonno couldn’t have any complaints if Murphy exerted his financial power once more... I'm inclined to agree but if we keep sacking managers that's not very practice is it and who's gonna get the job |
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Post by rcb on Mar 8, 2020 15:26:46 GMT
The budget should see us into the playoffs. The squad has the quality to win the title. That’s the way I see it. Fail to make the playoffs and Bern and Jonno couldn’t have any complaints if Murphy exerted his financial power once more... I'm inclined to agree but if we keep sacking managers that's not very practice is it and who's gonna get the job It’s not about sacking the managers though, is it? It’s about stupidly giving out two year contracts and then going and doing exactly the same thing again. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 8, 2020 15:58:05 GMT
Christ, lost a game have we?
We are a Conf North team, we are as inconsistent as all the other teams.
Sack him, sack them, social media use, blah blah blah.
At the end of the day some of you need to realise we aren't a full time league team anymore and haven't been for decades!
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Post by villagercfc on Mar 8, 2020 16:08:55 GMT
Christ, lost a game have we? We are a Conf North team, we are as inconsistent as all the other teams. Sack him, sack them, social media use, blah blah blah. At the end of the day some of you need to realise we aren't a full time league team anymore and haven't been for decades! Struggling to understand the final bit of your comment? The intentions and everyone’s dream is for us to be a full time league club again, so why not lay the foundations now and act in a professional manner? Just because we are in a tin pot league does not mean we have to behave like amateurs on social media, no other managers in our league do it. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 8, 2020 16:26:44 GMT
Christ, lost a game have we? We are a Conf North team, we are as inconsistent as all the other teams. Sack him, sack them, social media use, blah blah blah. At the end of the day some of you need to realise we aren't a full time league team anymore and haven't been for decades! Struggling to understand the final bit of your comment? The intentions and everyone’s dream is for us to be a full time league club again, so why not lay the foundations now and act in a professional manner? Just because we are in a tin pot league does not mean we have to behave like amateurs on social media, no other managers in our league do it. Why don't you message Jonno on Twitter and ask him why he's being so unprofessional? I'm sure he'd explain his point of view. |
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Post by btb on Mar 8, 2020 16:36:04 GMT
Struggling to understand the final bit of your comment? The intentions and everyone’s dream is for us to be a full time league club again, so why not lay the foundations now and act in a professional manner? Just because we are in a tin pot league does not mean we have to behave like amateurs on social media, no other managers in our league do it. Why don't you message Jonno on Twitter and ask him why he's being so unprofessional? I'm sure he'd explain his point of view. The problem with being on social media is when things are going well you’re the dogs balls. When they’re not then people are going to take a pop. Being a bit old school I’d prefer they weren’t on there but that said, there’s absolutely no need for personal comments like we seen last night. Regardless of whether anybody is a fan of them or not they are our managers and they should be given the respect that they deserve. |
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 8, 2020 17:49:31 GMT
Why don't you message Jonno on Twitter and ask him why he's being so unprofessional? I'm sure he'd explain his point of view. The problem with being on social media is when things are going well you’re the dogs balls. When they’re not then people are going to take a pop. Being a bit old school I’d prefer they weren’t on there but that said, there’s absolutely no need for personal comments like we seen last night. Regardless of whether anybody is a fan of them or not they are our managers and they should be given the respect that they deserve. I wouldn't mind the criticism, but Jonno hasn't posted anything on Twitter for at least 2 weeks. Some people just can't wait for us to lose so they can have a pop at everyone and everything. Embarrassing |
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Post by g1 on Mar 8, 2020 18:40:21 GMT
I'm inclined to agree but if we keep sacking managers that's not very practice is it and who's gonna get the job It’s not about sacking the managers though, is it? It’s about stupidly giving out two year contracts and then going and doing exactly the same thing again. for one minute I don't agree with the two year contract at this level should of been a one year with the option of an extra year |
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Post by agl on Mar 8, 2020 19:07:01 GMT
Christ, lost a game have we? We are a Conf North team, we are as inconsistent as all the other teams. Sack him, sack them, social media use, blah blah blah. At the end of the day some of you need to realise we aren't a full time league team anymore and haven't been for decades! I think the point being made is that yesterday went a lot deeper than inconsistency. When you have the manager admitting a promotion chasing team wasn't up for it against the worst side in the league, surely it's acceptable to ask searching questions rather than just trot out the tired old cliches about not being a league team any more? Are we all supposed to just shrug our shoulders, as you appear to be doing? Some of us actually give a sh1t about the club. And before the trolls get on my case, nowhere am I advocating sacking the managers |
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Post by agl on Mar 8, 2020 19:17:02 GMT
And before the trolls get on my case, nowhere have I advocated sacking the managers, or the board My apologies, I was just giving a shit about the football club. My bad Apology accepted |
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Post by scotty on Mar 8, 2020 19:31:13 GMT
Last season we finished 9th with a minus 2 goal difference. We're currently in the playoffs with a +20 goal difference.
And some on here want to sack the managers.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 8, 2020 19:46:32 GMT
Last season we finished 9th with a minus 2 goal difference. We're currently in the playoffs with a +20 goal difference. And some on here want to sack the managers. Stop letting the facts get in the way of some old men abusing the managers and the board, they love to be negative about all things Chester FC. |
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Post by villagercfc on Mar 8, 2020 20:18:43 GMT
Last season we finished 9th with a minus 2 goal difference. We're currently in the playoffs with a +20 goal difference. And some on here want to sack the managers. Just because we have improved on last year does not mean they’re doing as well as they should be. |
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