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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 18:39:11 GMT
Stopforth a big blow was an excellent player and done a lot of the dirty work when needed to
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Post by weareblues on Aug 3, 2020 18:41:23 GMT
Good news. To the minority still stuck with this ‘Bill and Ben, loyal to their Ramsbottom lot” hope this puts an end to that. Two of their most trusted men gone. Wonder what rcb will cry about next?
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Post by g1 on Aug 3, 2020 18:43:19 GMT
Good news. To the minority still stuck with this ‘Bill and Ben, loyal to their Ramsbottom lot” hope this puts an end to that. Two of their most trusted men gone. agree on Burton but its harsh on stopforth top player and a good fella
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Post by sealking on Aug 3, 2020 18:44:35 GMT
Very good players on their day at this level but becoming injury prone, properly good earners in the squad as well
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Post by g1 on Aug 3, 2020 18:45:16 GMT
Made up Burton's gone too often a passenger I'm afraid a bit strange stopforth has gone but its there decision and he was a bit injury prone but a top fella stopforth
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Post by sqzl on Aug 3, 2020 18:50:17 GMT
Other teams haven’t been affected by Covid then?! Having lost our top scorer and best player to a much smaller club in our league and seeing Darlington sign Maguire and Hunt, Kidderminster buy Morgan-Smith, Telford sign Oswell and Alfreton sign Dan Bradley from Fylde I’m not too sure actually. Having seen who Gloucester have signed they must be capitalising on Covid and going for it next season. Could they potentially be moved into the South though? If so that may come as a shock for some if they expect Chester away and end up with someone like Dartford.
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Post by billyw on Aug 3, 2020 18:51:20 GMT
Stopforth had a brilliant first season but in all honesty didn’t do a great deal last season, although I appreciate he had injury problems.
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Post by superman on Aug 3, 2020 19:02:28 GMT
Would only have kept one of Roberts Stopforth and Burton. If as rumoured Roberts long term fitness is now a doubt, then possibly all 3 going. Need some leadership, strength, height and pace in centre midfield if playing with 2 wingers.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Aug 3, 2020 19:03:13 GMT
Very pleased we will be reshuffling our midfield as we need to build it around George Glendon by recruiting a couple of younger players who are physical and tall. Scott Burton, as much as he cared and gave it his all, just wasn’t good enough from the beginning, as bar the occasional outstanding performance against the likes of Hereford FC and AFC Telford United he was often a passenger in most games. Of course his lack of consistency wasn’t aided by the couple of unfortunate injuries he picked up and the fact he was a one-footed player, but on the whole he turned out to be a major disappointment as he failed to live up to our expectations.
Meanwhile, as much as I am really gutted to see Gary Stopforth leave, our managers have again made the correct decision for him to go as he was the shadow of his former self this season. With that being said though, there is no doubt that he was sensational for us last campaign as he deservedly won our Player Of The Year, and had he not picked up that very unfortunate injury before Christmas, I’m sure he would have carried on that form. Stopforth just wasn’t able to emulate that form this season as he failed to maintain those levels of consistency which made it a frustrating campaign for him. Hence, our managers have made the right decision because I wouldn’t want him to stay just to be inconsistent again, and he is approaching his mid-30’s now so we must look for fresher blood. Good luck for the rest of your careers Scott and Gary!
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Post by rcb on Aug 3, 2020 19:06:08 GMT
Made up Burton's gone too often a passenger I'm afraid a bit strange stopforth has gone but its there decision and he was a bit injury prone but a top fella stopforth Perhaps Stopforth relied on Burton for a lift to work
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Post by Anders on Aug 3, 2020 19:06:57 GMT
Stopforth leaving isn’t a surprise, after what happened to him off the pitch last season he was always going to struggle to keep the effort and expense of that commute here going for so long. Saw him doing so many overnighters in Chester last season to make it work. Unfortunately him and Burton have just been a bit too injury prone as well.
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Post by Jack on Aug 3, 2020 19:12:30 GMT
I'd say it's probably the right decision for both of them.
Stopforth was excellent in that first season and his work-rate is fantastic. He always set the tone and aggression for our better performances and got the crowd going. If circumstances were different and he lived closer etc, I'd probably have tried to keep him here - a player like him is always useful.
As for Burton, it's never happened for him here. Don't think it was a lack of effort, just injury prone and never hit any kind of momentum. Seemed like a good influence behind the scenes but it's the right decision.
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Post by rcb on Aug 3, 2020 19:28:40 GMT
Good news. To the minority still stuck with this ‘Bill and Ben, loyal to their Ramsbottom lot” hope this puts an end to that. Two of their most trusted men gone. Do you know the details of their departures?
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Post by sealandender1 on Aug 3, 2020 20:19:31 GMT
Who’ll be the next manager(s)?
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Post by whitey on Aug 3, 2020 22:29:06 GMT
Who’ll be the next manager(s)? Same one's we have now, stop reading crap off facebook or wherever you've seen made up rumours. Thanks
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Post by Forever Blue on Aug 4, 2020 0:55:57 GMT
I hope the managers have some cards up their sleeves for next season.
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Post by exiled on Aug 4, 2020 7:23:44 GMT
It's hard to argue about Burton. Stopforth was one of our best players prior to the bad injury.As someone else said we do need a couple of central midfield ball winners.
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Post by Lobster on Aug 4, 2020 7:34:44 GMT
Good news. To the minority still stuck with this ‘Bill and Ben, loyal to their Ramsbottom lot” hope this puts an end to that. Two of their most trusted men gone. Do you know the details of their departures? I think he's talking about Burton and Stopforth, not the (hopefully bollocks) Twitter rumour that Bern and Johnno are on their way.
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Post by yossergolf on Aug 4, 2020 7:59:03 GMT
Scott Burton didn’t consistently show his true abilities for a number of reasons, injuries being the main one. Many fans could or would not look at the unseen stuff he used to do in breaking up play, filling holes that others had left etc. Hope he carries on with finding another club and shows his true form that was more evident to us before Covid hit. Gary Stopforth was one of those players that you could not ignore, all action and chasing lost causes, never giving up on any ball. This was his style and some times you think slow down and get your foot on the ball. I wish both players all of the best for the future and thank them for their time on and off the pitch at Chester.
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Post by Si on Aug 4, 2020 7:59:17 GMT
Pretty gutted about GStop as although he didn't quite hit the heights of his pre injury form I felt he was still pretty decent and felt like he had a lot to offer. I suspect its more to do with the travel side of things rather than playing, as at this level he had another good year to offer I'm sure. As for Burton, I loved the guy's attitude and can still why he's well respected at these levels, but playing wise he was unable to hit the ground running with injuries and then when he did play he didn't justify his reputation. Wouldn't surprise me to see him do well somewhere else, I think sometimes it's just not a right fit.
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Post by agl on Aug 4, 2020 8:06:03 GMT
One of the few things almost everyone on here agreed was that the midfield needs an overhaul. Never been a fan of Burton, and Stopforth isn't going to get any better. I've seen our midfield get bullied too often at places like Kettering and Royston. Maybe there's still a place for Gary Roberts but any deal must be dependent on meeting fitness criteria. We have our play maker in Glendon, now we need a bruiser to do the dirty work in central midfield and win some challenges in the air. The issue is whether we have the cash to bring in anyone decent...I'm still not sure we will be even playing next season, so how we sort out contracts is anyone's guess.
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Post by Churton Blue on Aug 4, 2020 8:22:52 GMT
One of the few things almost everyone on here agreed was that the midfield needs an overhaul. Never been a fan of Burton, and Stopforth isn't going to get any better. I've seen our midfield get bullied too often at places like Kettering and Royston. Maybe there's still a place for Gary Roberts but any deal must be dependent on meeting fitness criteria. We have our play maker in Glendon, now we need a bruiser to do the dirty work in central midfield and win some challenges in the air. The issue is whether we have the cash to bring in anyone decent... I'm still not sure we will be even playing next season, so how we sort out contracts is anyone's guess. The chances of a start to a season anytime soon get slimmer by the day.
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Post by agl on Aug 4, 2020 8:47:34 GMT
One of the few things almost everyone on here agreed was that the midfield needs an overhaul. Never been a fan of Burton, and Stopforth isn't going to get any better. I've seen our midfield get bullied too often at places like Kettering and Royston. Maybe there's still a place for Gary Roberts but any deal must be dependent on meeting fitness criteria. We have our play maker in Glendon, now we need a bruiser to do the dirty work in central midfield and win some challenges in the air. The issue is whether we have the cash to bring in anyone decent... I'm still not sure we will be even playing next season, so how we sort out contracts is anyone's guess. The chances of a start to a season anytime soon get slimmer by the day. Yes, does make you question whether clubs like Telford and Gloucester who appear to have jumped the gun. Risky strategy. I wonder if contracts have clauses covering what happens if football at our level can't restart
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Post by Lobster on Aug 4, 2020 9:04:58 GMT
To be honest, my money is on next season simply not happening - at least not at our level. Hope I'm wrong obviously, but I just don't see any form of normality returning in the near future that would make playing lower level football sustainable.
What that means for clubs like ours depends a lot on how helpful the government wants to be.
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Post by rcb on Aug 4, 2020 9:21:40 GMT
Do you know the details of their departures? I think he's talking about Burton and Stopforth, not the (hopefully bollocks) Twitter rumour that Bern and Johnno are on their way. My question was in reference to ‘two of their most trusted men gone”, so yes, it was Burton and Stopforth. Both were out of contract, so were they offered a new contract of any description, or were they not? Ultimately, whose decision?
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Post by rcb on Aug 4, 2020 9:24:52 GMT
Pretty gutted about GStop as although he didn't quite hit the heights of his pre injury form I felt he was still pretty decent and felt like he had a lot to offer. I suspect its more to do with the travel side of things rather than playing, as at this level he had another good year to offer I'm sure. As for Burton, I loved the guy's attitude and can still why he's well respected at these levels, but playing wise he was unable to hit the ground running with injuries and then when he did play he didn't justify his reputation. Wouldn't surprise me to see him do well somewhere else, I think sometimes it's just not a right fit. It does seem to happen frequently where ex Chester players are concerned. It would be interesting to see the history of that, and of the reverse, where Chester got the better out of incoming players, examples such as Henighan and Sarcevic spring to mind. Prior to that Ryan Lowe and Jon Walters.
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Post by Moltisanti on Aug 4, 2020 9:27:37 GMT
Do you know the details of their departures? I think he's talking about Burton and Stopforth, not the (hopefully bollocks) Twitter rumour that Bern and Johnno are on their way. It’s not hopefully bollocks, it is bollocks. As Johnson cleared up last night. 👍🏼
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 9:57:06 GMT
I think he's talking about Burton and Stopforth, not the (hopefully bollocks) Twitter rumour that Bern and Johnno are on their way. It’s not hopefully bollocks, it is bollocks. As Johnson cleared up last night. 👍🏼 Deactivated that twitter account to after Jonno replied to it Just some 13 year old random guy bored and trying to stir crap up which miserably backfired on him
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 4, 2020 10:38:24 GMT
It’s not hopefully bollocks, it is bollocks. As Johnson cleared up last night. 👍🏼 Deactivated that twitter account to after Jonno replied to it Just some 13 year old random guy bored and trying to stir crap up which miserably backfired on him In fairness isn’t that the account that seems to get most things right? Jonno was loving winding up the Alty fans when that account mentioned the JJ move.
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Post by Anders on Aug 4, 2020 10:41:02 GMT
Deactivated that twitter account to after Jonno replied to it Just some 13 year old random guy bored and trying to stir crap up which miserably backfired on him In fairness isn’t that the account that seems to get most things right? Jonno was loving winding up the Alty fans when that account mentioned the JJ move. No. The one that appears to get most right is called 'Non League Guy'. This tittle tattle one said Bern & Jonno were off this time last year as well.
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