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Post by weareblues on Mar 9, 2020 10:48:17 GMT
People need to stop with all this fickleness when we lose it’s genuinely embarrassing that every time we lose a game it’s all get the managers out etc
Grown men too even worse when majority moaning and crying about everything when we lose weren't even at the game either.
Sacking the manager every season like some muppets on here want to do isn’t going to do anything at all look at Hereford for a prime example as to where we could be... and they have a 700k+ budget to this league is a tough league to get out of
Always makes me laugh some these on here who slag managers off and want them gone also can’t tell you who they’d bring in and replace them with other then graham barrow 😂
So get behind the managers and the team for a change and quit moaning it could be way way worse
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 11:05:21 GMT
Sensible criticism of the players and managers - OK Expressing frustration and annoyance - OK Asking valid questions of the powers that be etc - OK
Personal insults, bile, vitriol and general hatred - 100% inexcusable
On the subject of the latter: Myself and pals who sit together at home games have commented on the level of sheer nastiness that's often hurled down from the stands towards any player who, God forbid, makes a mistake or error, especially one who some have taken a dislike to. More often than not, it's at the point where the team need support eg a goal down. Talk about shattering a player's confidence. Some will argue that's football but, in my view, it can and does overstep the mark sometimes.
Sadly, it seems to me to be horribly symptomatic of the society we are becoming and the blight of social media
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Post by hbomb on Mar 9, 2020 11:12:27 GMT
Was just going to write something similar.
Absolute joke some of our ‘supporters’.
Can’t wait to pile on after a defeat. Very quiet after a win. I criticised Saturday. It wasn’t good enough. Is this season going to fizzle out like last season. Hope not but there’s worrying signs. But some of the abuse and comments on here and Facebook. Embarrassing. Talking to fellow supporters at the game you can see why this message board has such a bad rep. I feel for Si whose trying to just help Chester fans with connecting etc. But this place is poisonous at times.
I honestly think some people on here want Chester to fail.
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Post by Moltisanti on Mar 9, 2020 11:17:36 GMT
Was just going to write something similar. Absolute joke some of our ‘supporters’. Can’t wait to pile on after a defeat. Very quiet after a win. I criticised Saturday. It wasn’t good enough. Is this season going to fizzle out like last season. Hope not but there’s worrying signs. But some of the abuse and comments on here and Facebook. Embarrassing. Talking to fellow supporters at the game you can see why this message board has such a bad rep. I feel for Si whose trying to just help Chester fans with connecting etc. But this place is poisonous at times. I honestly think some people on here want Chester to fail. They do. Mostly the older posters who’ve still got a chip on their shoulder about Chester City.
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Post by RonD on Mar 9, 2020 11:24:58 GMT
Good thread, and needed. Some of the rubbish that's been posted since Saturday on here and Facebook is purely embarrassing!
Ok, we're not on a good run but let's get down there Saturday and get behind the lads!
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 9, 2020 11:33:58 GMT
Was just going to write something similar. Absolute joke some of our ‘supporters’. Can’t wait to pile on after a defeat. Very quiet after a win. I criticised Saturday. It wasn’t good enough. Is this season going to fizzle out like last season. Hope not but there’s worrying signs. But some of the abuse and comments on here and Facebook. Embarrassing. Talking to fellow supporters at the game you can see why this message board has such a bad rep. I feel for Si whose trying to just help Chester fans with connecting etc. But this place is poisonous at times. I honestly think some people on here want Chester to fail. They do. Mostly the older posters who’ve still got a chip on their shoulder about Chester City. That's a stupid thing to say. I'm an older fan and I desperately want this club to progress as do most of the people I know in my age group. Also for a chip on shoulder over Chester City, we wouldn't be still coming if that was the case. Think before you post rubbish.
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Post by jimmy on Mar 9, 2020 11:38:44 GMT
In the main what has been said since Saturday's result is a load of vitriolic nonsense. Our managers have succeeded in the past and they'll succeed in the future if they're left to get on with the job.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Mar 9, 2020 12:14:37 GMT
Was just going to write something similar. Absolute joke some of our ‘supporters’. Can’t wait to pile on after a defeat. Very quiet after a win. I criticised Saturday. It wasn’t good enough. Is this season going to fizzle out like last season. Hope not but there’s worrying signs. But some of the abuse and comments on here and Facebook. Embarrassing. Talking to fellow supporters at the game you can see why this message board has such a bad rep. I feel for Si whose trying to just help Chester fans with connecting etc. But this place is poisonous at times. I honestly think some people on here want Chester to fail. They do. Mostly the older posters who’ve still got a chip on their shoulder about Chester City. Facebook is worse than DC for it. There’s one bloke who always slags off the “shitty” fan ownership model every time we lose a game, as if we were never shit under private ownership. And in any case, we’ve got Uncle Stu’s investment as a fan-owned club anyway.
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Post by weareblues on Mar 9, 2020 12:28:39 GMT
They do. Mostly the older posters who’ve still got a chip on their shoulder about Chester City. Facebook is worse than DC for it. There’s one bloke who always slags off the “shitty” fan ownership model every time we lose a game, as if we were never shit under private ownership. And in any case, we’ve got Uncle Stu’s investment as a fan-owned club anyway. The worst are those who support Liverpool and dislike the managers because they’re from greater Manchester 😂 FB ain’t half got some weirdos
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Post by btb on Mar 9, 2020 12:31:39 GMT
Personal insults against the managers is not acceptable. As others are saying, it’s embarrassing and completely uncalled for. They are more than happy to take criticism of performances but as Bernie did on Saturday evening they draw the line at insults. For my part, I’ll never be happy with results like Saturday, Royston, Blyth etc and I’ll come on here and say so. But when we perform like we did against Darlington, Southport and Kings Lynn I will also come on here and praise them. br]On to Saturday, god knows what we’ll get performance wise but the play offs are still more than achievable.
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Post by g1 on Mar 9, 2020 12:46:26 GMT
I don't think its being fickle its about having opinions if people justify that performance Saturday then fine its people on here who can't handle the truth who can emerge with any credit Saturday waters and maybe Jones fans are entitled to be angry
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Post by g1 on Mar 9, 2020 12:47:15 GMT
Personal insults against the managers is not acceptable. As others are saying, it’s embarrassing and completely uncalled for. They are more than happy to take criticism of performances but as Bernie did on Saturday evening they draw the line at insults. For my part, I’ll never be happy with results like Saturday, Royston, Blyth etc and I’ll come on here and say so. But when we perform like we did against Darlington, Southport and Kings Lynn I will also come on here and praise them. br]On to Saturday, god knows what we’ll get performance wise but the play offs are still more than achievable. agreed personal insults are disgusting
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Post by Si on Mar 9, 2020 12:58:30 GMT
The reality is we are still occupying a play off place. If people want the club to have the best chance of promotion then now isn't the time to be throwing insults at the managers and players. All we can do it get down there on Saturday and try and create a positive atmosphere to try and get the win. At the end of the season if we're not in the play offs then this season has been a failure and criticism will rightly follow. Hammering them in March when we're in the play offs just seems counter productive. Can totally get why people were frustrated and angry on Saturday, but now is the time to take a deep breath and draw a line under it.
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Post by g1 on Mar 9, 2020 13:13:43 GMT
The reality is we are still occupying a play off place. If people want the club to have the best chance of promotion then now isn't the time to be throwing insults at the managers and players. All we can do it get down there on Saturday and try and create a positive atmosphere to try and get the win. At the end of the season if we're not in the play offs then this season has been a failure and criticism will rightly follow. Hammering them in March when we're in the play offs just seems counter productive. Can totally get why people were frustrated and angry on Saturday, but now is the time to take a deep breath and draw a line under it. I will be there Saturday and looking forward to it
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Post by Moltisanti on Mar 9, 2020 16:22:02 GMT
They do. Mostly the older posters who’ve still got a chip on their shoulder about Chester City. That's a stupid thing to say. I'm an older fan and I desperately want this club to progress as do most of the people I know in my age group. Also for a chip on shoulder over Chester City, we wouldn't be still coming if that was the case. Think before you post rubbish. Said mostly, not all. I know a few people personally who don’t go because of what happened, and look to slag the club off at every opportunity, like a lot of people on here.
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Post by Al on Mar 9, 2020 18:34:45 GMT
Comes with the territory doesnt it. We're no different to any other club in the world in that respect when it comes to the bipolar attitudes of some of our supporters.
The only problem is, that in these modern times of social media it is always the vocal minority who shout the loudest. As we see on here and on the other social media platforms. I've counted less than a dozen 'fans' giving abuse to the management and/or suggesting sack or resignations following on from the weekend. Always the same people shouting the same things every time we lose a game.
We win on Saturday and you can guarantee you wont hear a peep out of any of them.
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 9, 2020 18:51:17 GMT
Comes with the territory doesnt it. We're no different to any other club in the world in that respect when it comes to the bipolar attitudes of some of our supporters. The only problem is, that in these modern times of social media it is always the vocal minority who shout the loudest. As we see on here and on the other social media platforms. I've counted less than a dozen 'fans' giving abuse to the management and/or suggesting sack or resignations following on from the weekend. Always the same people shouting the same things every time we lose a game. We win on Saturday and you can guarantee you wont hear a peep out of any of them. If we win on Saturday I'll be very relieved because this slump we're in is very worrying at the business end of the season. People who say the threads are shorter when we win. That's true because it's been mission accomplished. Usually when we lose people can see why we've lost and want to share it on here. I wasn't at Bradford on Saturday, but followed the Chronicle guy and his comments weren't very complimentary and he's a diehard supporter.
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Post by Al on Mar 9, 2020 18:59:01 GMT
Comes with the territory doesnt it. We're no different to any other club in the world in that respect when it comes to the bipolar attitudes of some of our supporters. The only problem is, that in these modern times of social media it is always the vocal minority who shout the loudest. As we see on here and on the other social media platforms. I've counted less than a dozen 'fans' giving abuse to the management and/or suggesting sack or resignations following on from the weekend. Always the same people shouting the same things every time we lose a game. We win on Saturday and you can guarantee you wont hear a peep out of any of them. If we win on Saturday I'll be very relieved because this slump we're in is very worrying at the business end of the season. People who say the threads are shorter when we win. That's true because it's been mission accomplished. Usually when we lose people can see why we've lost and want to share it on here. I wasn't at Bradford on Saturday, but followed the Chronicle guy and his comments weren't very complimentary and he's a diehard supporter. So what if we win on the weekend and then lose the game after, will that still be 'resignation territory?' Suggest some people calm down, take a deep breath and get their emotions in check before spouting off on the socials
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Post by bluejay on Mar 9, 2020 19:28:24 GMT
If we win on Saturday I'll be very relieved because this slump we're in is very worrying at the business end of the season. People who say the threads are shorter when we win. That's true because it's been mission accomplished. Usually when we lose people can see why we've lost and want to share it on here. I wasn't at Bradford on Saturday, but followed the Chronicle guy and his comments weren't very complimentary and he's a diehard supporter. So what if we win on the weekend and then lose the game after, will that still be 'resignation territory?' Suggest some people calm down, take a deep breath and get their emotions in check before spouting off on the socials He's not saying that. He's pointing out there is a rational explanation for more posts on here after we lose. Emotions will always run high after a result like Saturday and as long as no lines are crossed we should be okay with that. Fans of all clubs are the same and it's an absolute desperation to succeed that sometimes gets the better of us but also makes the good days so much better.
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 9, 2020 20:26:23 GMT
If we win on Saturday I'll be very relieved because this slump we're in is very worrying at the business end of the season. People who say the threads are shorter when we win. That's true because it's been mission accomplished. Usually when we lose people can see why we've lost and want to share it on here. I wasn't at Bradford on Saturday, but followed the Chronicle guy and his comments weren't very complimentary and he's a diehard supporter. So what if we win on the weekend and then lose the game after, will that still be 'resignation territory?' Suggest some people calm down, take a deep breath and get their emotions in check before spouting off on the socials I think I might block you, You're just a wum. Losing at the bottom team with 3 wins all season and a goal difference of -54 is bad. Losing at Altrincham is normal.
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Post by weareblues on Mar 9, 2020 20:28:46 GMT
So what if we win on the weekend and then lose the game after, will that still be 'resignation territory?' Suggest some people calm down, take a deep breath and get their emotions in check before spouting off on the socials I think I might block you, You're just a wum. Losing at the bottom team with 3 wins all season and a goal difference of -54 is bad. Losing at Altrincham is normal. This is a league where anyone can beat anyone It happens Get over it
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Post by 3mm on Mar 9, 2020 20:37:13 GMT
It's in people's nature to celebrate a win and moan about a loss, probably the same at most clubs. I can understand moaning in between games, "we should be doing this / that" etc, but what gets me is people who moan during games.
When a game is on, everyone should get behind all of the players for the full 90 minutes, because they're the only ones who are going to win it for you. I can't see the point in slagging off any players during a game, do people think it helps them? If anything, someone who is playing badly needs even more encouragement. It's a pity some people don't try it some time.
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Post by Al on Mar 9, 2020 21:47:55 GMT
So what if we win on the weekend and then lose the game after, will that still be 'resignation territory?' Suggest some people calm down, take a deep breath and get their emotions in check before spouting off on the socials I think I might block you, You're just a wum. Losing at the bottom team with 3 wins all season and a goal difference of -54 is bad. Losing at Altrincham is normal. Christ imagine Hannibal accusing someone else of being a windup merchant..
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Post by exiled on Mar 9, 2020 22:41:38 GMT
I don't see it as fickleness. As long as I can remember, people have always moaned after a bad result.Even going back to the old Sealand Road days you would hear things like "what a load of shit that was", "sack the manager" and "that's me done I won't be back here to watch that crap" etc, Guess what, them same faces were back the following week cheering on the lads.
I just see it as fellow fans letting off steam and sharing their opions as they see it on the forum. I don't agree with all the posts but got no problem with that.
But as already been said, personal insults or abuse levelled at the Managers,players or fellow fans, whether at the games or social media is a different matter.
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Post by billyw on Mar 10, 2020 8:36:33 GMT
I don't see it as fickleness. As long as I can remember, people have always moaned after a bad result.Even going back to the old Sealand Road days you would hear things like "what a load of shit that was", "sack the manager" and "that's me done I won't be back here to watch that crap" etc, Guess what, them same faces were back the following week cheering on the lads. I just see it as fellow fans letting off steam and sharing their opions as they see it on the forum. I don't agree with all the posts but got no problem with that. But as already been said, personal insults or abuse levelled at the Managers,players or fellow fans, whether at the games or social media is a different matter. Spot on. It amuses me when some on here think we are different to supporters of other clubs, we are not. In fact, if anything, you could say we are more supportive than others when you think of all the things We have been through at this club.
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Post by Si on Mar 10, 2020 8:49:38 GMT
The personal insults just isn't needed. Bern and Jonno have been nothing but fully invested in Chester FC since the minute they walked through the doors. They don't insult the fans intelligence like McCarthy by blaming budget or injuries. I sometimes wonder whether they know what is needed to be done to try and eradicate some of the horror results but they've never pulled the wool over their eyes or dined off an Aldershot style win. They deserve a bit more respect than Twitter warriors having a pop every time we lose a game. And it's been said before, but these players and these managers are at this level for a reason - this league is full of lads on their way down, young lads on their way up and a scattering of non-league journeymen, we do have to sometimes remember where we are at and perhaps reign in the hysteria when we lose a game we don't expect to because this is step 6 and weird results happen - did anyone see Hereford stonking York 4-1 the other night?! Tactics and selection will always be discussed and scrutinised, and that's fine because that's what football is all about, it's a game of opinions and there's nothing wrong with that, it's just the social media brain surgeons that irritate me who have a direct platform to chuck some abuse at them after a game. If you are the sort of grown man that reacts in that way when emotions are running high after a game, perhaps they should pass their phone to their wife for the evening, have a beer and watch Ant and Dec's Saturday Night takeaway instead.
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Post by South Wirral Blue on Mar 10, 2020 9:10:52 GMT
I don't see it as fickleness. As long as I can remember, people have always moaned after a bad result.Even going back to the old Sealand Road days you would hear things like "what a load of shit that was", "sack the manager" and "that's me done I won't be back here to watch that crap" etc, Guess what, them same faces were back the following week cheering on the lads. I just see it as fellow fans letting off steam and sharing their opions as they see it on the forum. I don't agree with all the posts but got no problem with that. But as already been said, personal insults or abuse levelled at the Managers,players or fellow fans, whether at the games or social media is a different matter. Spot on. It amuses me when some on here think we are different to supporters of other clubs, we are not. In fact, if anything, you could say we are more supportive than others when you think of all the things We have been through at this club. These two posts are spot on. Some people can't seem to deal with the fact that supporters will go to a game of football and walk away with an opinion on what they've seen. If the performance is as poor as Saturday's then they're perfectly entitled to call it.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Mar 10, 2020 10:27:43 GMT
I don't see it as fickleness. As long as I can remember, people have always moaned after a bad result.Even going back to the old Sealand Road days you would hear things like "what a load of shit that was", "sack the manager" and "that's me done I won't be back here to watch that crap" etc, Guess what, them same faces were back the following week cheering on the lads. I just see it as fellow fans letting off steam and sharing their opions as they see it on the forum. I don't agree with all the posts but got no problem with that. But as already been said, personal insults or abuse levelled at the Managers,players or fellow fans, whether at the games or social media is a different matter. Absolutely spot on, and choosing to vent your frustration after the final whistle is justified and is the right way to go. I think what people forget or fail to realise is that a post on a social media site or forum such as this is a permanent record of that username make that comment and unless deleted by user or admin is there for everyone to see. It could be a heat of moment comment like I'm sure a lot were on Saturday, which is not on and it shouldn't be up to the mods to clean it up, everyone should be responsible for their own posts.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Mar 10, 2020 19:13:45 GMT
They do. Mostly the older posters who’ve still got a chip on their shoulder about Chester City. That's a stupid thing to say. I'm an older fan and I desperately want this club to progress as do most of the people I know in my age group. Also for a chip on shoulder over Chester City, we wouldn't be still coming if that was the case. Think before you post rubbish. What an absolutely awful thing to say. I remember as a young man having watched lower league football for some considerable time. The walk that afternoon back to the train station after we had lost our football league status for the first time. Never forget it what a day that was. And all the thoughts feelings and emotions it brought.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Mar 11, 2020 11:17:55 GMT
What i will say, is the point raised by a few regards 'Chester City' etc does stand to a degree. You consider that most people have been watching league football over the years and tbf when we re-started we absolutely pissed this level, 100 points 100 goals etc (and its not got stronger since) i can understand why it is exceptionally difficult to support this team.
I have no doubt the fans at Stockport were just the same, I mean, some of their fans will remember the championship days.
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