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May 22, 2020 15:10:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 15:10:55 GMT
I don't think it's guilt at all but I know for a fact that it is often said. Some people are tested more than once. I'm quite hard of hearing so have TV very loud. Surely you have heard it stated. If not I suggest you turn the sound up
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Post by Ian H Block on May 22, 2020 16:00:10 GMT
It’s quite incredible how many Government lies Tory supporters will swallow and how many excuses they make for a PM who has been found so wanting. Clearly Boris Johnson is to crisis management what Jon McCarthy is to football management, yet people just eat up and regurgitate all the bullshit.
I suppose it’s human nature really as people don’t want to confront their own culpability in the unfolding horror show. The feeling of guilt must be overwhelming.
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May 22, 2020 16:59:03 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 22, 2020 16:59:03 GMT
61,000 infections per week still.
And we’re talking of easing the lockdown further.
Murderers.
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May 22, 2020 17:41:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 17:41:26 GMT
which hat are you wearing your welsh or your english
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May 22, 2020 18:03:14 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 22, 2020 18:03:14 GMT
🤷🏻♂️
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Post by everhopeful on May 22, 2020 21:50:57 GMT
The personal attacks are creeping back in again. Let's stop them and carry on with reasonable debate or risk having the topic locked.
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Post by paikallinen on May 22, 2020 22:04:41 GMT
Cummings - what's it to be - resignation or dismissal?
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May 22, 2020 22:18:24 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 22, 2020 22:18:24 GMT
The personal attacks are creeping back in again. Let's stop them and carry on with reasonable debate or risk having the topic locked. I don’t mind living in Upsanddowns’ head rent-free. Socialism isn’t it x |
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Post by lincolnexile on May 23, 2020 6:26:25 GMT
Cummings - what's it to be - resignation or dismissal? Neither, they'll just ride it out. |
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May 23, 2020 7:05:24 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 23, 2020 7:05:24 GMT
The man who shaped the government’s so-called strategy for dealing with the pandemic ("herd immunity, protect the economy and if that means some pensioners die, too bad") is immune from Lockdown rules.
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May 23, 2020 7:46:24 GMT
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Post by Lobster on May 23, 2020 7:46:24 GMT
Cummings - what's it to be - resignation or dismissal? Dominic Goings? |
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May 23, 2020 8:11:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 8:11:02 GMT
I don't think he will resign and he sure as hell won't get sacked. Waste of Time having a parliamentary vote because there is only one way that will go.
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Post by lincolnexile on May 23, 2020 8:13:25 GMT
Cummings - what's it to be - resignation or dismissal? Dominic Goings? Cummings is to arrogant to resign and bumbling Boris hasn't got the balls to sack him. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on May 23, 2020 8:27:16 GMT
If he has broken the rules then he has to go
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May 23, 2020 8:37:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 8:37:26 GMT
Would agree but how do you make it happen
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May 23, 2020 8:37:36 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 23, 2020 8:37:36 GMT
Hilarious seeing the Minister for Propaganda, Laura Kuenservativeberg trying to spin it on Twitter. I’m so glad I don’t pay a license fee.
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Post by Wortleyblue on May 23, 2020 8:43:09 GMT
I see our intrepid Labourites are not mentioning that Labour MP Steve Kinnock visited his 78-year-old father on his birthday and all the wonderful welsh police did was criticise him yet hundreds of hard-working people get fined for going to the beach double standards or what
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May 23, 2020 8:43:58 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 23, 2020 8:43:58 GMT
Or whataboutery*
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Post by lincolnexile on May 23, 2020 8:45:27 GMT
To be honest when this crisis started I was of the opinion that the government was doing the best it could under the circumstances. But the longer it goes on the more ridiculous the decisions, and the more obvious the mistakes regarding their strategy, are becoming but one thing they should be congratulated on is their ability to take advantage of the general publics inability to stay focused on the real issues.
You can almost imagine the conversation in the cabinet meetings. 'What shall we do about all these people dying in nursing homes and the lack of PPE? I know we'll make Captain Tom a Colonel that should deflect things for a few days. Then if that doesn't work we'll give him a knighthood, those twats out there will soon forget about the pandemic if we give them something to be happy about'
Another thing that's become noticeable is the absence of Boris. Have the rest of them finally realised that he is so out of his depth that he can't be allowed to head the 5 o'clock bullshit just in case he says something stupid?
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Post by lincolnexile on May 23, 2020 9:05:02 GMT
I see our intrepid Labourites are not mentioning that Labour MP Steve Kinnock visited his 78-year-old father on his birthday and all the wonderful welsh police did was criticise him yet hundreds of hard-working people get fined for going to the beach double standards or what I'm not sure what the Welsh police could have done about it really. Was he actually caught outside his dads house by the police or did someone grass him up to the papers and the police had a word after the fact. I suppose it's a bit like someone driving home pissed from the pub, and the coppers coming round with a breathalyser two days later, because a neighbours phoned them up. |
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Post by Deva Chanter on May 23, 2020 9:07:53 GMT
I see our intrepid Labourites are not mentioning that Labour MP Steve Kinnock visited his 78-year-old father on his birthday and all the wonderful welsh police did was criticise him yet hundreds of hard-working people get fined for going to the beach double standards or what Labour member here - Kinnock is a moron like the rest of his gravy-train loving family and should have been fined accordingly. Hope that helps. Also, being 'hard-working' doesn't give you the right to break lockdown rules, last time I checked. |
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Post by Lobster on May 23, 2020 9:32:45 GMT
I wish I was important enough to set rules for everyone else and ignore them myself.
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Post by Wortleyblue on May 23, 2020 9:34:35 GMT
I see our intrepid Labourites are not mentioning that Labour MP Steve Kinnock visited his 78-year-old father on his birthday and all the wonderful welsh police did was criticise him yet hundreds of hard-working people get fined for going to the beach double standards or what Labour member here - Kinnock is a moron like the rest of his gravy-train loving family and should have been fined accordingly. Hope that helps. Also, being 'hard-working' doesn't give you the right to break lockdown rules, last time I checked. I didnt say being hard-working gave them the right to break the lockdown rules merely made a comparison and as I said earlier Cummings should go if is guilty as charged |
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Post by Wortleyblue on May 23, 2020 9:36:56 GMT
I see our intrepid Labourites are not mentioning that Labour MP Steve Kinnock visited his 78-year-old father on his birthday and all the wonderful welsh police did was criticise him yet hundreds of hard-working people get fined for going to the beach double standards or what I'm not sure what the Welsh police could have done about it really. Was he actually caught outside his dads house by the police or did someone grass him up to the papers and the police had a word after the fact. I suppose it's a bit like someone driving home pissed from the pub, and the coppers coming round with a breathalyser two days later, because a neighbours phoned them up. Isnt that the same for Dominic Cummings though "The Labour Party has demanded a "very swift explanation" from Downing Street over reports that Boris Johnson's senior aide Dominic Cummings broke the Government's lockdown rules. The Mirror reported that he was spotted at his parents' home in Durham when he was recovering from Covid-19, after travelling from his London home". |
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Post by lincolnexile on May 23, 2020 9:52:34 GMT
I'm not sure what the Welsh police could have done about it really. Was he actually caught outside his dads house by the police or did someone grass him up to the papers and the police had a word after the fact. I suppose it's a bit like someone driving home pissed from the pub, and the coppers coming round with a breathalyser two days later, because a neighbours phoned them up. Isnt that the same for Dominic Cummings though "The Labour Party has demanded a "very swift explanation" from Downing Street over reports that Boris Johnson's senior aide Dominic Cummings broke the Government's lockdown rules. The Mirror reported that he was spotted at his parents' home in Durham when he was recovering from Covid-19, after travelling from his London home". Yes it is the same for Dominic Cummings. But you seemed to be upset that the Welsh police didn't do anything about Kinnock. All I was pointing out was that it would be hard for the Welsh police to do anything unless he was caught in the act, unless their powers have been extended to retrospective fines based on hearsay evidence. By the way I'm not a 'Labourite' or a Welsh copper.  |
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May 23, 2020 9:58:23 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on May 23, 2020 9:58:23 GMT
600 mile round trip with a 6 year old child, how many motorway services did he visit to pass on the Miley Cyrus? Can only guess what his R number is, must be double figures.
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Post by thestanchion on May 23, 2020 10:26:55 GMT
If Cummings was concerned that he and his wife were too ill to look after the toddler then the should have contacted Social Services which was the prevailing advice. Instead they decided to risk the health of the grandparents', Cummings' sister and all the inconsequential 'ordinary' people they must have encountered on the journey.
If he isn't sacked any existing or future advice to the nation will compromised and possibly ignored.
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May 23, 2020 10:54:28 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on May 23, 2020 10:54:28 GMT
Cummings and Johnson are probably delighted people are focusing on the Durham trip rather than the obscenely high death toll they are responsible for.
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Post by Lobster on May 23, 2020 12:07:01 GMT
Cummings is to arrogant to resign and bumbling Boris hasn't got the balls to sack him. Looks like you're right. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52782913Johnson's a complete pussy. Absolutely none of the qualities you want in a leader. |
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May 23, 2020 12:11:04 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on May 23, 2020 12:11:04 GMT
Cummings and Johnson are probably delighted people are focusing on the Durham trip rather than the obscenely high death toll they are responsible for. Perfect distraction for a bit isn’t it. |
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