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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 19, 2020 22:01:34 GMT
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If we or other countries end up with a second wave of this virus 🦠 which is a distinct possibility then who knows how long it will be .
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Post by exiled on Apr 20, 2020 10:32:40 GMT
I think another issue is going to be when to start the new season. I think we all realise that this season is now over with its just deciding on how it will finish i.e. PPG etc. The even bigger issue for me will be next season. They are saying that unless we get a vaccine that social distancing will still be in place - how are clubs going to manage that? will next season be delayed? Germany, who appear to be in a much better state than us in terms of Covid 19, have said that football will not be allowed until August 31st. Hard to see football returning in the UK until October at best. www.residentadvisor.net/news/72186Germany seem to be adopting what they see as a realistic time frame. But as Happy clapper said, social distancing measures may still be in place here. So surely it would be impposible to proceed with the season if that was the case, untill restrictions are lifted, as should be the case with any contact sport.But all speculation at the moment.
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Post by rcb on Apr 20, 2020 10:45:22 GMT
Germany, who appear to be in a much better state than us in terms of Covid 19, have said that football will not be allowed until August 31st. Hard to see football returning in the UK until October at best. www.residentadvisor.net/news/72186Germany seem to be adopting what they see as a realistic time frame. But as Happy clapper said, social distancing measures may still be in place here. So surely it would be impposible to proceed with the season if that was the case, untill restrictions are lifted, as should be the case with any contact sport.But all speculation at the moment. I totally agree with what you say, but you just made me laugh when you described it as a contact sport. I’d love to see today’s prima donnas play against the likes of Norman Hunter when you could reasonably call it a contact sport. Many of today’s players could fall over without breaking social distancing!
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Post by exiled on Apr 20, 2020 11:28:11 GMT
Germany seem to be adopting what they see as a realistic time frame. But as Happy clapper said, social distancing measures may still be in place here. So surely it would be impposible to proceed with the season if that was the case, untill restrictions are lifted, as should be the case with any contact sport.But all speculation at the moment. I totally agree with what you say, but you just made me laugh when you described it as a contact sport. I’d love to see today’s prima donnas play against the likes of Norman Hunter when you could reasonably call it a contact sport. Many of today’s players could fall over without breaking social distancing! I think your right. If Hunter,Souness and the likes were stll playing today, they'd be more likely to get done for GBH than get carded.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 22, 2020 12:16:07 GMT
All of our remaining fixtures have been cancelled for good due to most clubs voting in favour of that outcome.
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Post by avfo on Apr 22, 2020 12:19:08 GMT
All of our remaining fixtures have been cancelled for good due to most clubs voting in favour of that outcome. Statement from the National League - National League Clubs were asked to support an ordinary resolution on 9 April to end the Playing Season for all fixtures scheduled up to and including 25 April 2020. With almost 90% of responses returned it is evident a clear majority of Clubs are in favour, including a majority of Clubs in each of the National League, National League North and National League South divisions. In the knowledge that the ordinary resolution has passed, the League’s Board has chosen to communicate the decision now and before the last few responses are received, which will not change the outcome, to enable Clubs to make business decisions with greater clarity as soon as possible. Clubs yet to respond still have an opportunity to do so, and the League wishes to include as many preferences as possible before the final voting result is declared. National League Chief Executive Officer, Michael Tattersall, commented, “At a time when the entire country is wrestling with the devastating impact of Covid-19, the cancellation of the remaining normal season matches brings a degree of certainty to our Clubs coping with the business implications of the virus.” In consideration of the very serious and unprecedented national public health emergency caused by the coronavirus, National League, National League North and National League South football activities have been suspended since 16 March. The options concerning the sporting outcomes of the 2019/20 season remain under careful and timely consideration, and further updates will be given in due course.
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Post by agl on Apr 22, 2020 12:51:28 GMT
My understanding is that they are still fudging the issue of promotion and relegation. There can't realistically be relegation from our league, as leagues below are not promoting but in theory could we still be involved in play offs? As it stands we finish seventh. Kings Lynn, second but with games in hand, appear to have most to lose. Interestingly results haven't been expunged, as they have in feeder leagues below. Need some clarity soon. My hunch is they will say no promotion or relegation, which annoyingly could have the knock on effect of reprieving Tranmere.
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Post by delamereal on Apr 22, 2020 14:03:08 GMT
EFL haven't made a decision yet so who knows about Tranmere?
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Post by gezzer on Apr 22, 2020 14:06:51 GMT
A couple of things to consider: At least 1 team will need to go up from National League to replace Bury. There may be a need for more teams to move into the FL to replace teams who may well disappear, the likes of Macc, Southend, Notts County (but not limited to) were all struggling financially prior to the Covid 19 outbreak. With the immediate outlook looking bleak for some teams the EFL and NL could well be looking at a restructure in the near future especially as the start of next season has to be in some doubt at the moment putting the futures of more clubs in doubt.
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Post by agl on Apr 22, 2020 14:10:34 GMT
EFL haven't made a decision yet so who knows about Tranmere? If National League don't promote then surely the only possible outcome will be no relegation from league two and, hence, upwards, although I was forgetting the Bury situation. It's a rubbish statement from the National League that does little to end the uncertainty.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 22, 2020 14:13:28 GMT
My understanding is that they are still fudging the issue of promotion and relegation. There can't realistically be relegation from our league, as leagues below are not promoting but in theory could we still be involved in play offs? As it stands we finish seventh. Kings Lynn, second but with games in hand, appear to have most to lose. Interestingly results haven't been expunged, as they have in feeder leagues below. Need some clarity soon. My hunch is they will say no promotion or relegation, which annoyingly could have the knock on effect of reprieving Tranmere. If points per game were used, King's Lynn would go top, and I think we would be higher than 7th since we've played fewer games than Alty and Spennymoor.
Both King's Lynn and National League South leaders Wealdstone were publicly in favour of ending the season. I can't see why they would be unless they thought PPG was a likelihood.
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Post by agl on Apr 22, 2020 14:19:22 GMT
My understanding is that they are still fudging the issue of promotion and relegation. There can't realistically be relegation from our league, as leagues below are not promoting but in theory could we still be involved in play offs? As it stands we finish seventh. Kings Lynn, second but with games in hand, appear to have most to lose. Interestingly results haven't been expunged, as they have in feeder leagues below. Need some clarity soon. My hunch is they will say no promotion or relegation, which annoyingly could have the knock on effect of reprieving Tranmere. If points per game were used, King's Lynn would go top, and I think we would be higher than 7th since we've played fewer games than Alty and Spennymoor.
Both King's Lynn and National League South leaders Wealdstone were publicly in favour of ending the season. I can't see why they would be unless they thought PPG was a likelihood.
By my reckoning if ppg is used we would overtake Spennymoor but not Altrincham, so we would be sixth. gateshead who are below us with a game in hand would not overtake us.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 22, 2020 14:25:17 GMT
Getting way ahead of myself here, but below is what the table would look like on points per game
Position Team Games Played Points Points per Game 1 King's Lynn Town 32 64 2 2 York City 34 66 1.941176471 3 Boston United 32 58 1.8125 4 Brackley Town 34 60 1.764705882 5 Altrincham 33 57 1.727272727 6 Chester 32 54 1.6875 7 Gateshead 31 52 1.677419355 8 Spennymoor Town 34 55 1.617647059 9 Guiseley 33 50 1.515151515 10 Darlington 33 48 1.454545455 11 Farsley Celtic 34 48 1.411764706 12 Southport 32 43 1.34375 13 Alfreton Town 32 40 1.25 14 AFC Telford United 34 42 1.235294118 15 Kidderminster Harriers 33 38 1.151515152 16 Hereford 35 39 1.114285714 17 Gloucester City 30 33 1.1 18 Leamington 32 35 1.09375 19 Kettering Town 31 32 1.032258065 20 Curzon Ashton 33 34 1.03030303 21 Blyth Spartans 33 23 0.696969697 22 Bradford (Park Avenue) 33 20 0.606060606
If the playoffs were to happen, we would play Altrincham away, then York away if we won.
If we won that, we'd play either Boston (a), Brackley (a) or Gateshead (h) in the final.
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Post by agl on Apr 22, 2020 14:29:19 GMT
In other words, what ever happens we can look forward to another year in NNL!
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Post by delamereal on Apr 22, 2020 14:59:21 GMT
EFL haven't made a decision yet so who knows about Tranmere? If National League don't promote then surely the only possible outcome will be no relegation from league two and, hence, upwards, although I was forgetting the Bury situation. It's a rubbish statement from the National League that does little to end the uncertainty. If the leagues play the games then there would be promotion from league 2 and relegation from league 1, surely?? Otherwise there would be no relegation from or promotion to the Premier League.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Apr 22, 2020 15:17:08 GMT
Surely there will have to be some sort of promotion from the national league as Bury will need to be replaced in the EFL
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Post by agl on Apr 22, 2020 15:30:05 GMT
Surely there will have to be some sort of promotion from the national league as Bury will need to be replaced in the EFL And then you'd have to find a replacement for our league (or NLS) without any promotion from the leagues below which have expunged results. It's a minefield.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Apr 22, 2020 15:38:57 GMT
With games being cancelled it may be prudent of the CFU board to give us members a financial forecast, as it seems obvious that we are going to need to get the buckets out?
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Post by billyw on Apr 22, 2020 15:53:30 GMT
Surely there will have to be some sort of promotion from the national league as Bury will need to be replaced in the EFL They can easily play with an odd number of teams for a season.
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Post by avfo on Apr 22, 2020 16:19:15 GMT
My understanding is that they are still fudging the issue of promotion and relegation. There can't realistically be relegation from our league, as leagues below are not promoting but in theory could we still be involved in play offs? As it stands we finish seventh. Kings Lynn, second but with games in hand, appear to have most to lose. Interestingly results haven't been expunged, as they have in feeder leagues below. Need some clarity soon. My hunch is they will say no promotion or relegation, which annoyingly could have the knock on effect of reprieving Tranmere. My guess is that the NL board will pass the buck and let the clubs decide by offering the clubs two or three choices. That way they don't leave themselves open to any credible legal challenge.
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Post by billyw on Apr 22, 2020 16:29:48 GMT
In other words, what ever happens we can look forward to another year in NNL! Let’s hope so.
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Post by waggoner on Apr 22, 2020 16:35:53 GMT
Getting way ahead of myself here, but below is what the table would look like on points per game Position Team Games Played Points Points per Game 1 King's Lynn Town 32 64 2 2 York City 34 66 1.941176471 3 Boston United 32 58 1.8125 4 Brackley Town 34 60 1.764705882 5 Altrincham 33 57 1.727272727 6 Chester 32 54 1.6875 7 Gateshead 31 52 1.677419355 8 Spennymoor Town 34 55 1.617647059 9 Guiseley 33 50 1.515151515 10 Darlington 33 48 1.454545455 11 Farsley Celtic 34 48 1.411764706 12 Southport 32 43 1.34375 13 Alfreton Town 32 40 1.25 14 AFC Telford United 34 42 1.235294118 15 Kidderminster Harriers 33 38 1.151515152 16 Hereford 35 39 1.114285714 17 Gloucester City 30 33 1.1 18 Leamington 32 35 1.09375 19 Kettering Town 31 32 1.032258065 20 Curzon Ashton 33 34 1.03030303 21 Blyth Spartans 33 23 0.696969697 22 Bradford (Park Avenue) 33 20 0.606060606 If the playoffs were to happen, we would play Altrincham away, then York away if we won. If we won that, we'd play either Boston (a), Brackley (a) or Gateshead (h) in the final. TBH the best way would be to promote the teams that would have finished top (even through PPG). I would rather we stayed in NL/N to be fair. Taking into account the money problems we are likely to face over the next few months what sort of squad would we be able to put together to play NL, even if we were jammy enough to go up?
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 22, 2020 17:01:07 GMT
It seems harsh to promote York with Kings Lynn two points behind with two games in hand. They said we are in very unusual times. Maybe create an 8 team play off campaign? I still feel it will end up nil and void. Shame if it does as a play off campaign would be nice however long it would last for .
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Post by chesterken on Apr 22, 2020 19:01:46 GMT
Getting way ahead of myself here, but below is what the table would look like on points per game Position Team Games Played Points Points per Game 1 King's Lynn Town 32 64 2 2 York City 34 66 1.941176471 3 Boston United 32 58 1.8125 4 Brackley Town 34 60 1.764705882 5 Altrincham 33 57 1.727272727 6 Chester 32 54 1.6875 7 Gateshead 31 52 1.677419355 8 Spennymoor Town 34 55 1.617647059 9 Guiseley 33 50 1.515151515 10 Darlington 33 48 1.454545455 11 Farsley Celtic 34 48 1.411764706 12 Southport 32 43 1.34375 13 Alfreton Town 32 40 1.25 14 AFC Telford United 34 42 1.235294118 15 Kidderminster Harriers 33 38 1.151515152 16 Hereford 35 39 1.114285714 17 Gloucester City 30 33 1.1 18 Leamington 32 35 1.09375 19 Kettering Town 31 32 1.032258065 20 Curzon Ashton 33 34 1.03030303 21 Blyth Spartans 33 23 0.696969697 22 Bradford (Park Avenue) 33 20 0.606060606 If the playoffs were to happen, we would play Altrincham away, then York away if we won. If we won that, we'd play either Boston (a), Brackley (a) or Gateshead (h) in the final. That would be us bolloxed Lobster we might as well just give them the game now.😂
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Post by sealking on Apr 22, 2020 19:15:32 GMT
I'd rather void the league then do PPG to decide the outcome. Anything can happen in football and be unfair on alot of clubs if we predict outcomes through PPG. The bury situation is easy to solve...have a odd amount of teams for one year and then adjust after a proper and completed season
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Post by dmcnally on Apr 22, 2020 19:19:53 GMT
Null and void is a shocking idea. Reward those who have failed. Punish those who have succeeded. Pretend 10 months of effort, investment, scouting & recruitment, time etc never existed. Not for me...
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Post by sealking on Apr 22, 2020 20:07:56 GMT
Null and void is a shocking idea. Reward those who have failed. Punish those who have succeeded. Pretend 10 months of effort, investment, scouting & recruitment, time etc never existed. Not for me... But officially no one has succeeded or failed yet, if there was one or two games left then PPG could be a fair way to conclude the season. Because by that point there would be confirmed relegations, league winners, play off spots, but majority of football leagues haven't had any confirmed outcomes yet as there is 10 games to go! 30 points up for grab still and football is a crazy game and anything can happen!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 20:40:00 GMT
Possibly 10 Months without Football
If that rumour is true a lot if not all clubs will go under
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 22, 2020 21:12:01 GMT
Well if social distancing needs to continue as per what was said earlier this evening for rest of the year. Then there won’t be any action anytime soon. If this true the question needs to be as has been said can we survive as a club for that long without fixtures? 😢🤷♂️
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Post by bing on Apr 22, 2020 21:33:19 GMT
I think we can thank our lucky stars that Mr Murphy came along when he did, although I suspect talk of infrastructure projects may well need to be put on hold.
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