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Post by paulie on Jun 13, 2020 12:48:13 GMT
Thought I'd ask this on here rather than start a new thread. What are people's thoughts on Netflix pulling several shows that have depictions of blackface in them, including Little Britain and League of Gentleman? Not sure it's the right approach myself. It seems a bit clumsy. For example, I understand they've pulled The Mighty Boosh in its entirity, but I'm pretty sure the Spirit of Jazz character only appears in one or two episodes. I never really thought of that as blackface either, but more as a demonic character who happened to be painted black in the same way as some of the other characters were painted green, red and other colour. It's like they've denounced an entire show as racist because of one minor character. I don't really see how this broadens race relations or helps anybody understand the issue. Media should still be available even if times have moved on, and it's better to educate than restrict. I would prefer to have seen Netflix provide information boxes for certain programs explaining the time and context and that they contain scenes that now might seem inappropriate. People can then make their own decision on whether they want to watch them, and learn as they do so. Saying that, I thought Little Britain used to push their luck with what they got away with even at the time! Ridiculous, strange how the film "white chicks" is allowed to stay on. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 13, 2020 12:50:27 GMT
Thought I'd ask this on here rather than start a new thread. What are people's thoughts on Netflix pulling several shows that have depictions of blackface in them, including Little Britain and League of Gentleman? Not sure it's the right approach myself. It seems a bit clumsy. For example, I understand they've pulled The Mighty Boosh in its entirity, but I'm pretty sure the Spirit of Jazz character only appears in one or two episodes. I never really thought of that as blackface either, but more as a demonic character who happened to be painted black in the same way as some of the other characters were painted green, red and other colour. It's like they've denounced an entire show as racist because of one minor character. I don't really see how this broadens race relations or helps anybody understand the issue. Media should still be available even if times have moved on, and it's better to educate than restrict. I would prefer to have seen Netflix provide information boxes for certain programs explaining the time and context and that they contain scenes that now might seem inappropriate. People can then make their own decision on whether they want to watch them, and learn as they do so. Saying that, I thought Little Britain used to push their luck with what they got away with even at the time! Ridiculous, strange how the film "white chicks" is allowed to stay on. If you knew the history of blackface you wouldn’t find it that strange. |
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Jun 13, 2020 14:31:36 GMT
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Post by Ian H Block on Jun 13, 2020 14:31:36 GMT
13th on Netflix is a good introduction to the history of racial discrimination in America and how their criminal justice system is used as a tool of suppression. Very prescient in these troubling times and well worth a watch.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 13, 2020 17:18:38 GMT
Thought I'd ask this on here rather than start a new thread. What are people's thoughts on Netflix pulling several shows that have depictions of blackface in them, including Little Britain and League of Gentleman? Not sure it's the right approach myself. It seems a bit clumsy. For example, I understand they've pulled The Mighty Boosh in its entirity, but I'm pretty sure the Spirit of Jazz character only appears in one or two episodes. I never really thought of that as blackface either, but more as a demonic character who happened to be painted black in the same way as some of the other characters were painted green, red and other colour. It's like they've denounced an entire show as racist because of one minor character. I don't really see how this broadens race relations or helps anybody understand the issue. Media should still be available even if times have moved on, and it's better to educate than restrict. I would prefer to have seen Netflix provide information boxes for certain programs explaining the time and context and that they contain scenes that now might seem inappropriate. People can then make their own decision on whether they want to watch them, and learn as they do so. Saying that, I thought Little Britain used to push their luck with what they got away with even at the time! Ridiculous, strange how the film "white chicks" is allowed to stay on. Suppose you could argue that film is a subversion of racial stereotypes in which blackface is turned into "whiteface" and the situation is looked at from the point of view of the Other, also having seen it that's possibly giving the film more credit than it deserves! It's funny in a way that we expect TV to moderate itself for us. You don't expect libraries to rip pages out of books, or to warn us if a book contains strong language, but broadcasters are seen to have an obligation to keep us informed on what we're watching. Netflix warns you about things like swearing, sex and violence. Why not warn about racial insensitivity, perhaps with links to learn more about why blackface is now seen as unacceptable? Better than just wiping stuff and pretending it didn't happen. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 13, 2020 17:40:30 GMT
Good god where will it all stop are we to take all westerns off as they could offend native Americans we have to have some sort of reasonable common sense here
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Post by noddy on Jun 13, 2020 18:46:58 GMT
Good god where will it all stop are we to take all westerns off as they could offend native Americans we have to have some sort of reasonable common sense here Exactly. The sketch on Goodness Gracious Me about going out for an English, or asking for the blandest thing on the menu. Could that be classed as offensive to white British, should that be taken off our screens? Or what about the modern day slavery going on in sweatshops in the far east making clothing for retail shops like Primark, children working 12 hour days 6 days a week. Don't see people campaigning to have these shops closed down, then again, they are all in there buying their shorts and t shirts etc. I find a lot of the hypocrisy going on at the moment quite galling, if you look deeply enough into anything historically you wil see something to be highly offended about. Education is the way to go, not by removing statues, or defacing them. |
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Jun 13, 2020 19:35:13 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 13, 2020 19:35:13 GMT
Space Force with Steve Carrel is great. Originally an idea taking the piss out of the Leader of the Racist World’s ridiculous tweet about extending the US military into space.
John Malkovich’s first comedy TV series too.
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Jun 13, 2020 19:43:53 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 13, 2020 19:43:53 GMT
13th on Netflix is a good introduction to the history of racial discrimination in America and how their criminal justice system is used as a tool of suppression. Very prescient in these troubling times and well worth a watch. Similar theme, When They See Us tells a true story of racial profiling, injustice and media misinformation ethnic minorities have to contend with. It’s a re-enacting of the case of the Central Park Five of black and Latino teenagers wrongly convicted of rape and attempted murder. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 13, 2020 19:48:14 GMT
White Lines is a great story, part-Spanish.
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Jun 13, 2020 21:29:37 GMT
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 13, 2020 21:29:37 GMT
Not Netflix I know but recommend Gangs Of London and McMillions on Sky.
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Jun 14, 2020 7:04:35 GMT
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Post by paulie on Jun 14, 2020 7:04:35 GMT
White Lines is a great story, part-Spanish. Very good, me and the Mrs watched it in 2 sittings last weekend. |
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jun 14, 2020 7:44:13 GMT
When They See Us, Death of Stalin and The end of the f$&king world, on More4
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Post by delamereal on Jun 14, 2020 8:41:33 GMT
Snowpiercer on Netflix is worth watching.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jun 14, 2020 11:17:48 GMT
Snowpiercer on Netflix is worth watching. Enjoying this. The film is absolutely brilliant too. |
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Post by delamereal on Jun 14, 2020 12:09:08 GMT
Snowpiercer on Netflix is worth watching. Enjoying this. The film is absolutely brilliant too.Saw it a couple of years ago, great. |
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Post by Firestick Frank on Jun 14, 2020 12:29:37 GMT
Anyone watch Watch?
John Bishop In Conversation With... is back for a new series and the Professor Green and Paddy McGuiness episodes are brilliantly insightful.
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Jun 14, 2020 17:01:53 GMT
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Post by hughdemann on Jun 14, 2020 17:01:53 GMT
The Last Kingdom (4 series) on Netflix is one I enjoy, based on books by Bernard Cornwell who had another series "Sharpe" based on his books.
My daughter has got us in to watching "Orange is the new black" set in an American womens prison |
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Jun 14, 2020 23:44:41 GMT
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Post by weareblues on Jun 14, 2020 23:44:41 GMT
Narcos
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Post by Al on Jun 16, 2020 5:38:04 GMT
The Last Kingdom (4 series) on Netflix is one I enjoy, based on books by Bernard Cornwell who had another series "Sharpe" based on his books.
My daughter has got us in to watching "Orange is the new black" set in an American womens prison Last Kingdom was great. Had me hooked from the very first episode |
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Post by Forever Blue on Jul 19, 2020 2:18:27 GMT
Sunderland documentary, Better Call Saul (spin off from Breaking Bad) Agree about the Sunderland Til I Die documentary, really good watch. Watched most of it yesterday and woke up early hours because I guess I am excited but also apprehensive about today, Really good watch but not great on the eve of the play offs lol. Lets hope we can celebrate COYB  btw I am not sure I would trust them new owners tbh. |
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Post by Lobster on Jan 3, 2021 0:09:20 GMT
Just watched Charlie Brooker's "Death to 2020". A bit hit and miss, although I did enjoy Lisa Kudrow basically playing a Trump-supporting Phoebe.
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Post by delamereal on Jan 3, 2021 13:43:48 GMT
Queen's Gambit is good even if you don't like chess.
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Jan 25, 2021 8:31:14 GMT
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jan 25, 2021 8:31:14 GMT
Queen's Gambit is good even if you don't like chess. The Queens Gambit is excellent and probably the best series, on there.Also, Godless and the brillient and dark , Ex C4 ,Fargo is worth a watch |
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Post by keysersoze on Jan 25, 2021 14:29:50 GMT
Started watching 'Lupin' this weekend, a crime thriller influenced by the adventures of Arsène Lupin, a character created by Maurice Leblanc. Basically the anti-Sherlock Holmes. In French and subtitled but very engaging. Omar Sy is a fantastic actor.
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Post by Ian H Block on Jan 25, 2021 15:04:39 GMT
Any idea when (if?) we’re getting season 4 of Ozark. First three seasons were addictive, top class tv.
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Jan 25, 2021 17:13:13 GMT
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Post by hughdemann on Jan 25, 2021 17:13:13 GMT
The Last Kingdom (4 series) on Netflix is one I enjoy, based on books by Bernard Cornwell who had another series "Sharpe" based on his books.
My daughter has got us in to watching "Orange is the new black" set in an American womens prison Last Kingdom was great. Had me hooked from the very first episode If you like historic type stuff Al you may like Nightfall (2 series) originally from History Channel on Sky I believe, about the Knights Templar, binge watched the two series over a week and a half. |
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Post by delamereal on Jan 25, 2021 18:15:57 GMT
Started watching 'Lupin' this weekend, a crime thriller influenced by the adventures of Arsène Lupin, a character created by Maurice Leblanc. Basically the anti-Sherlock Holmes. In French and subtitled but very engaging. Omar Sy is a fantastic actor. Agree that it's very good but episodes 6 & 7 have yet to be made due to Covid.  Spotless is good, even if its a couple of years old. Snowpiercer starts again this week |
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jan 25, 2021 20:40:03 GMT
Started watching 'Lupin' this weekend, a crime thriller influenced by the adventures of Arsène Lupin, a character created by Maurice Leblanc. Basically the anti-Sherlock Holmes. In French and subtitled but very engaging. Omar Sy is a fantastic actor. Agree that it's very good but episodes 6 & 7 have yet to be made due to Covid. Spotless is good, even if its a couple of years old. Snowpiercer starts again this weekI wasn't aware of this - really enjoyed the first season. Would highly, highly recommend the film to anyone who hasn't seen it too. |
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Post by lincolnexile on Mar 23, 2021 12:54:29 GMT
Watched 'The Trial of the Chicago 7' last night, very good true life drama.
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Post by delamereal on Mar 28, 2021 12:17:04 GMT
Agree that it's very good but episodes 6 & 7 have yet to be made due to Covid. Spotless is good, even if its a couple of years old. Snowpiercer starts again this weekI wasn't aware of this - really enjoyed the first season. Would highly, highly recommend the film to anyone who hasn't seen it too. Don't think this series is anywhere near as good. Started off OK but for me has tailed off. |
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btw I am not sure I would trust them new owners tbh.