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Post by waggoner on Apr 21, 2020 12:40:05 GMT
Arsenal's players have all agreed to a pay cut (except Ozil and 2 others) We are in uncertain times and everyone is being hit hard. BUT Ozil refuses to take a cut because in his (and his agents eyes) Arsenal might still turn a profit this year so he wants to wait and see if they do.
I reality it's all about money and the fear of losing any of it. They are not playing any matches but he's quite happy to take his £350K a week. These overpaid Prima Donnas really do take the p@@s. The premier league is everything that is wrong in football
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Post by Lobster on Apr 21, 2020 12:59:10 GMT
Doesn't help Ozil's image as he's already seen as a bit of a lazy prime donna, but I would question how this has been made public and why only Ozil has been named of the three players.
Arsenal really are a toxic club at the moment. It feels like Piers Morgan's influence has spilled over into the fans and players and they're now a club where everyone just has a go at each other on social media. I know every club is a bit like that but with Arsenal Fan TV and all that, it seems like they're on another level.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Apr 21, 2020 13:22:30 GMT
Why should players take pay cuts when we’ve got billionaires who haven’t paid tax in this country for decades getting government bailouts? Wayne Rooney was spot on.
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Post by Old Seal on Apr 21, 2020 13:24:45 GMT
I can't believe the teams who are trying to buy new players when they're putting staff on furlow, and there's a pandemic going on all over the world 😥
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Post by bing on Apr 21, 2020 14:52:07 GMT
Why should players take pay cuts when we’ve got billionaires who haven’t paid tax in this country for decades getting government bailouts? Wayne Rooney was spot on. I'm inclined to agree with this. It must be very annoying if you're a footballer and you're continually picked on as being overpaid when there are many more examples of people in society earning obscene sums of money, yet not giving anything back to society, like many footballers do. I would personally think twice about taking a pay cut myself unless I had assurances that other people in society followed suit.
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Post by paulie on Apr 21, 2020 14:53:43 GMT
Why should players take pay cuts when we’ve got billionaires who haven’t paid tax in this country for decades getting government bailouts? Wayne Rooney was spot on. I'm inclined to agree with this. It must be very annoying if you're a footballer and you're continually picked on as being overpaid when there are many more examples of people in society earning obscene sums of money, yet not giving anything back to society, like many footballers do. I would personally think twice about taking a pay cut myself unless I had assurances that other people in society followed suit. The arsenal owner is worth a reported £10b he can afford to pay his staff.
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Post by gezzer on Apr 21, 2020 15:55:20 GMT
Looks like they are covering their arses in case (or more likely) that they miss out on Europe as they have agreed to repay all of the money plus £100k bonus if they get into the Champions League this or next season, 7.5% if they get into the Europa League and any player sold at a profit will also get their money back. Also worth noting that the executive committee have agreed to take a 30% pay cut.
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Post by agl on Apr 21, 2020 15:58:41 GMT
Easy targets. In theory that's what the tax system is for...the more they earn, the more tax they pay etc. If they are going after footballers, why not someone like Lewis Hamilton and his ilk who profess to be British but live in tax exile? And why not golfers, tennis players, actors, singers..the list is endless unless you target anyone earning above a certain amount that is arbitrarily considered 'obscene'.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Apr 21, 2020 17:42:48 GMT
Easy target that’s for sure. It’s up to the government to go after these big earners that pay little or no tax in uK 🇬🇧. There should really be an enquiry into it. As for Oziil if true that’s really poor, Perhaps he’d like to spend a week with me running around giving injections, delivering scripts and medications to support those that have mental health issues whilst all this virus 🦠 risk is still high . The nation needs to boycott pre yet league but it won’t
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Post by scotty on Apr 21, 2020 18:32:38 GMT
As for Oziil if true that’s really poor, Perhaps he’d like to spend a week with me running around giving injections, delivering scripts and medications to support those that have mental health issues Your logic is all wrong. The more Ozil gets paid, the more tax he pays, the more that is in the pocket of the NHS and the less there is in the pocket of Kroenke. Do you want Kroenke to have it or the NHS?
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Post by bing on Apr 21, 2020 18:40:53 GMT
As for Oziil if true that’s really poor, Perhaps he’d like to spend a week with me running around giving injections, delivering scripts and medications to support those that have mental health issues Your logic is all wrong. The more Ozil gets paid, the more tax he pays, the more that is in the pocket of the NHS and the less there is in the pocket of Kroenke. Do you want Kroenke to have it or the NHS? Yes - the paradox is that the more Prem footballers get paid, the better it is for the NHS. As a previous poster said, it's the ones who avoid paying tax that should be winkled out.
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 21, 2020 19:06:21 GMT
Why should players take pay cuts when we’ve got billionaires who haven’t paid tax in this country for decades getting government bailouts? Wayne Rooney was spot on. This. If my employer told me to take a pay cut I’d tell them to piss off.
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Post by waggoner on Apr 21, 2020 19:44:23 GMT
Why should players take pay cuts when we’ve got billionaires who haven’t paid tax in this country for decades getting government bailouts? Wayne Rooney was spot on. This. If my employer told me to take a pay cut I’d tell them to piss off. Lots of us have taken a pay cut. For instance my employer has cut bonuses, premium rate hours and reduced our hours. So I am living on basic wage which does not even cover outgoings really. I could tell them to p@@s Off but would I have a job to go back to? Now I am not on £350K a week (more like £350 per week). The problem is that in the case of many businesses IF people do not take some sort of wage cut or wage cap there won't be a viable job to go back to. THIS is the reality facing clubs at our level. Loads of players across lower leagues have taken a wage drop. Some Premier players need to look in the mirror and ask this question ''If people did not pay inflated money for tickets to watch me, or pay stupid money for Sky/BT where would my wages be''? They are only rich because people pay to make them so
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Post by exiled on Apr 21, 2020 21:49:05 GMT
This. If my employer told me to take a pay cut I’d tell them to piss off. Lots of us have taken a pay cut. For instance my employer has cut bonuses, premium rate hours and reduced our hours. So I am living on basic wage which does not even cover outgoings really. I could tell them to p@@s Off but would I have a job to go back to? Now I am not on £350K a week (more like £350 per week). The problem is that in the case of many businesses IF people do not take some sort of wage cut or wage cap there won't be a viable job to go back to. THIS is the reality facing clubs at our level. Loads of players across lower leagues have taken a wage drop. Some Premier players need to look in the mirror and ask this question ''If people did not pay inflated money for tickets to watch me, or pay stupid money for Sky/BT where would my wages be''? They are only rich because people pay to make them so Good post!. In today's current climate it's about the employee doing their bit as well as the employer. If we all had that attitude how many business's would be left, not just in football but anywhere. The blokes not playing football. ( not his fault but not the club's fault neither). At the end of the day it will be the very people who help to pay his wages that suffer, the fans with a hike in season ticket prices etc next season. There's thousands of self employed people in the country who have been unable to work, and won't get a penny untill June. He wants to try and walk in their shoes.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 22, 2020 10:53:59 GMT
One thing that should be remembered (and Matt Hancock's clumsy and uncalled-for dig at players didn't take this into account) is that players taking a wage cut achieves nothing on its own. In fact it just keeps money in the coffers of rich clubs and their rich owners, rather than back into the UK economy through taxes and spending.
From what I've seen, most players are receptive to the idea of donating a portion of their wages to the NHS and other causes. I actually think the current England players are quite a classy lot, which is something I wouldn't have said about certain members of the underachieving 'Golden Generation'.
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 22, 2020 11:49:12 GMT
Easy target that’s for sure. It’s up to the government to go after these big earners that pay little or no tax in uK 🇬🇧. There should really be an enquiry into it.As for Oziil if true that’s really poor, Perhaps he’d like to spend a week with me running around giving injections, delivering scripts and medications to support those that have mental health issues whilst all this virus 🦠 risk is still high . The nation needs to boycott pre yet league but it won’t Tax is potentially a tricky issue for Chester supporters. Our main benefactor is a resident of Gibraltar and as such does not pay UK Income Tax although his companies do pay UK Corporation Tax. Would he be included into the above ? Will the current pandemic and all the issues that surround funding the NHS change attitudes to tax ? Not intended as a dig at the poster just a few important issues that may require some consideration in the future.
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Post by happyclapper on Apr 22, 2020 13:02:42 GMT
As for Oziil if true that’s really poor, Perhaps he’d like to spend a week with me running around giving injections, delivering scripts and medications to support those that have mental health issues Your logic is all wrong. The more Ozil gets paid, the more tax he pays, the more that is in the pocket of the NHS and the less there is in the pocket of Kroenke. Do you want Kroenke to have it or the NHS? That's providing he doesn't use an offshore account to have his salary paid into using a tax avoidance scheme. It made me laugh the other day when Gordon Taylor was very specific about £250 million a year tax paid by premier league players, I would hazard a guess its a lot less than that.
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 23, 2020 9:37:01 GMT
As for Oziil if true that’s really poor, Perhaps he’d like to spend a week with me running around giving injections, delivering scripts and medications to support those that have mental health issues Your logic is all wrong. The more Ozil gets paid, the more tax he pays, the more that is in the pocket of the NHS and the less there is in the pocket of Kroenke. Do you want Kroenke to have it or the NHS? How will the NHS get it?
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Post by Hannibal on Apr 23, 2020 9:41:24 GMT
I am retired, but I supplement my small income with modest dividend payments from shares I own. Not this year though as these payments have been cancelled. I'll be around £500 out of pocket, which may affect my purchase of a season ticket.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 23, 2020 9:43:25 GMT
Your logic is all wrong. The more Ozil gets paid, the more tax he pays, the more that is in the pocket of the NHS and the less there is in the pocket of Kroenke. Do you want Kroenke to have it or the NHS? How will the NHS get it? Unless you're being cryptic, the NHS is taxpayer-funded so Ozil (assuming he pays tax as he should) will contribute more to the NHS by being paid more.
Personally, I can totally understand players refusing a pay cut if they just think the chairman is trying to get away with paying out less. I would want assurances that the money I'm sacrificing is going to a worthwhile cause.
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