|
Post by agl on May 19, 2020 15:16:07 GMT
Surprised nobody has mentioned the 3G pitch idea. For me it contradicts the aim of returning to the football league, as currently 3G pitches aren't accepted. I accept the current pitch has expense and maintenance attached to it, but it's long been one the best playing surfaces in the lower leagues and it's one of the main plus points of our stadium. I've seen plenty of games of 3G surfaces and the game just doesn't seem right to me - I'm a firm believer that football should be played on real grass. I get the boards thinking, in that a 3G pitches also becomes a community asset and generates funds, but I thought that's what the King George development was all about? The stadium should always be real grass, whatever the cost. Seeing the photos of the pitch posted by the club today , I can only assume we aren't planning for any behind closed doors playoff matches. Would be crazy if we'd did....I'm pretty sure that by finishing 7th we have to play all matches away, including the final
|
|
|
Post by exiled on May 19, 2020 15:18:07 GMT
Surprised nobody has mentioned the 3G pitch idea. For me it contradicts the aim of returning to the football league, as currently 3G pitches aren't accepted. I accept the current pitch has expense and maintenance attached to it, but it's long been one the best playing surfaces in the lower leagues and it's one of the main plus points of our stadium. I've seen plenty of games of 3G surfaces and the game just doesn't seem right to me - I'm a firm believer that football should be played on real grass. I get the boards thinking, in that a 3G pitches also becomes a community asset and generates funds, but I thought that's what the King George development was all about? The stadium should always be real grass, whatever the cost. Agree. It also seems to contradict the point directly above it about having a more environmentally friendly stadium. Not sure if 3G is a good idea anyway if the aim is the football league. Plus how long would it take to pay for itself.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 15:23:28 GMT
If we do get 3g wouldn't it need to be dug out and relayed as grass again if we get back to the Football League ??
|
|
|
Post by waggoner on May 19, 2020 15:50:07 GMT
If we do get 3g wouldn't it need to be dug out and relayed as grass again if we get back to the Football League ?? I think that the EFL might have to rethink artificial pitches. There has been talk of making the National league into either League 3 or making a regional league 2 north and south using the national league to do this. But some of the teams in National league already have 3g pitches. IF this was to happen then the floodgates would be open. Regarding a 3G pitch. I doubt that it would effect us because there is little chance of us getting into the league, we struggle in the national league
|
|
|
Post by jimgreen on May 19, 2020 15:51:40 GMT
The reference to 3G in the draft plan is generating some debate (which was expected) so to be clear the suggestion is to undertake a feasibility study rather than a specific proposal.
We appreciate it is a topic that provokes opinion and I think there are good arguments to be made on both sides. In my opinion, the reason for its inclusion is that in order to achieve a return to the EFL, the club must be prepared to explore all avenues which may increase revenues to support that ambition.
As previous posters say, consideration must be given to the finances and also to how it fits in with the club’s overall strategy. At the moment the EFL does not permit 3G pitches but that may change in the near future, particularly if talk of regionalised divisions involving National League clubs prove to be true. Both Harrogate and Sutton has suggested they would replace their 3G pitches with grass upon promotion such is the difference in solidarity payments in League Two, however whether that is still the case post-Covid remains to be seen.
In terms of KGV, this is absolutely a key priority for the Community Trust and the football club. We hope to share a detailed project update in the coming weeks with updated timescales and so on.
|
|
|
Post by agl on May 19, 2020 16:18:56 GMT
What about a Sapporo (Japan World Cup) style sliding artificial pitch, which can be wheeled in and out and sits on top of the grass pitch? Would be quite an attraction, especially alongside a surfing lagoon.
|
|
Andy
Junior Member
Posts: 57
|
Post by Andy on May 19, 2020 20:46:32 GMT
I do think with the 5 year plan, a lot people are thinking too big.
For me promotion at some point without followed by relegation with the first team.
Basic affordable improvements to the stadium/facilities and equipment.
Remaining sustainable financially and improving profitability by steadily increasing and maintaining sponsorship and partner relationships.
The continued but now increased effort to get the st George's project off the ground and up and running to help with training facilities and community projects.
If these are achieved without a cashflow crisis (due to the current climate) I do think the next five years will be a success.
|
|
|
Post by waggoner on May 19, 2020 22:19:35 GMT
I do think with the 5 year plan, a lot people are thinking too big. For me promotion at some point without followed by relegation with the first team. Basic affordable improvements to the stadium/facilities and equipment. Remaining sustainable financially and improving profitability by steadily increasing and maintaining sponsorship and partner relationships. The continued but now increased effort to get the st George's project off the ground and up and running to help with training facilities and community projects. If these are achieved without a cashflow crisis (due to the current climate) I do think the next five years will be a success. Just imagine if instead of a community base at St Georges we could build a stadium with 3G pitch away from a ground at the arse end of an industrial estate. Now that would improve the crowds and be right in the heart of the 'community' yes I know it will never happen but I do think that the deva has always held us back, mainly because of where it is and how difficult it is to get to
|
|
|
Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on May 20, 2020 8:58:57 GMT
I do think with the 5 year plan, a lot people are thinking too big. For me promotion at some point without followed by relegation with the first team. Basic affordable improvements to the stadium/facilities and equipment. Remaining sustainable financially and improving profitability by steadily increasing and maintaining sponsorship and partner relationships. The continued but now increased effort to get the st George's project off the ground and up and running to help with training facilities and community projects. If these are achieved without a cashflow crisis (due to the current climate) I do think the next five years will be a success. That’s a sensible approach and one I’ve taken too. Five years is not a long time at all with regards to this, some are dreaming too big.
|
|
|
Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on May 20, 2020 10:10:12 GMT
I do think with the 5 year plan, a lot people are thinking too big. For me promotion at some point without followed by relegation with the first team. Basic affordable improvements to the stadium/facilities and equipment. Remaining sustainable financially and improving profitability by steadily increasing and maintaining sponsorship and partner relationships. The continued but now increased effort to get the st George's project off the ground and up and running to help with training facilities and community projects. If these are achieved without a cashflow crisis (due to the current climate) I do think the next five years will be a success. Bang on. Great to be able to have input over things like this. I remember fans getting hit with microphones for criticising club policies of the past.
|
|
|
Post by bing on May 20, 2020 10:11:57 GMT
It's a good Five Year Plan - all sounds doable, but as Andy says, it would be wise to temper expectation.
If SM had submitted a, "detailed three year business plan", it would have been extremely hard to compare the two side-by-side though - i.e. if SM's plan didn't include detailed figures and projections for the Club / Sporting Village etc, people would naturally be cautious to support his bid.
|
|
|
Post by Harry Lime on May 20, 2020 21:43:47 GMT
It's not really a Plan.
It's more of a wish list. A list of things we'd like to do, or need to think about.
Given our last 5 years, we'll do well to do many improvements without impacting the first team budget. Unless, of course, we can get the Community Training Centre up and running. Then, who knows?
|
|