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Post by Churton Blue on Jun 8, 2020 17:06:04 GMT
The first part of your bold is from the Chester Standard and written by Nick Harrison and is not a quote from the managers. Nick is a good bloke who I know from my cricketing days but he is a big Wrexham fan so I do take his view with a pinch of salt. I would agree with some of your post but still think the fact that he was not offered a contract earlier speaks volumes. I think the managers wanted younger players and maybe a goal scorer who was not so injury prone and would be better value for money as per your comment. Churton Blue, you base your comments on 'I Think'. My info is based on facts. I am not going to divulge my source, just to state that that hours before he signed for Gloucester, management at Chester, were trying to get him to delay the signing to resign for Chester. and the comment about getting someone in who is not injury prone is better value, that does not make sense. Even with Akwasi missing some games he was still way ahead in the top scoring stakes. Is that what wins you games to give you a chance of promotion. Mind you we have Dudley & Waring who are cheaper but cannot score goals. Read my posts, The managers had agreed to sort a contract out with him Murphy was going to finance again, there was no issues, they needed his goals for playoffs and/or next season that was the plan. However no one took into account Murphy withdrawing his finances. Once that happened the mangers knew that the money would have to come out of there budget. They were prepared to do that. All signing of contracts stopped when the cash cow threw his teddies out of the pram. I cannot make it any clearer. I'm getting bored know talking about it. He's gone now, just need to find a 20 goal a season Striker whether he's fit or not if he scores 20 goals and only plays half of the games ,great the rest of the team need to chip in that's what happens, its a team game. You are either posting as a mouth piece for someone or trying to stir things. Either way not really in the best interests of the club. No source just my opinion.
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Post by Grimreaper on Jun 8, 2020 17:44:18 GMT
Churton Blue, you base your comments on 'I Think'. My info is based on facts. I am not going to divulge my source, just to state that that hours before he signed for Gloucester, management at Chester, were trying to get him to delay the signing to resign for Chester. and the comment about getting someone in who is not injury prone is better value, that does not make sense. Even with Akwasi missing some games he was still way ahead in the top scoring stakes. Is that what wins you games to give you a chance of promotion. Mind you we have Dudley & Waring who are cheaper but cannot score goals. Read my posts, The managers had agreed to sort a contract out with him Murphy was going to finance again, there was no issues, they needed his goals for playoffs and/or next season that was the plan. However no one took into account Murphy withdrawing his finances. Once that happened the mangers knew that the money would have to come out of there budget. They were prepared to do that. All signing of contracts stopped when the cash cow threw his teddies out of the pram. I cannot make it any clearer. I'm getting bored know talking about it. He's gone now, just need to find a 20 goal a season Striker whether he's fit or not if he scores 20 goals and only plays half of the games ,great the rest of the team need to chip in that's what happens, its a team game. You are either posting as a mouth piece for someone or trying to stir things. Either way not really in the best interests of the club. No source just my opinion. Well you keep thinking and I will stop reporting on the facts. Its not stirring things up it is what it is, who do you think was paying for Akwasi, the tooth fairy. You don't need too know my source. Put it this way it is closer to Akwasi than your source.
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Post by agl on Jun 8, 2020 17:53:53 GMT
It's a pretty simple state of affairs. Man gets job offer in uncertain times. Might not be the greatest job, but it pays the bills. Man takes new job. No point getting worked up about it. Footballers are no different to the rest of us.
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Post by kpdmidcheshire on Jun 8, 2020 18:50:27 GMT
Just a HUNCH, but is the Grimreaper Asante by any chance 🤔🤔🤔
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 8, 2020 18:51:08 GMT
Just a HUNCH, but is the Grimreaper Asante by any chance 🤔🤔🤔 George Delves
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Post by cfcforme on Jun 8, 2020 21:03:23 GMT
Just a HUNCH, but is the Grimreaper Asante by any chance 🤔🤔🤔 If it was you could at least forgive him for not knowing the difference between "to" and "too" or "their" and "there".
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Post by Churton Blue on Jun 8, 2020 21:33:37 GMT
Just a HUNCH, but is the Grimreaper Asante by any chance 🤔🤔🤔 Every post about Asante and registered on DC just before he signed for the club so you could be on to something ! My money is on a mate, relative or Agent though........
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Post by Lobster on Jun 9, 2020 5:45:10 GMT
Just a HUNCH, but is the Grimreaper Asante by any chance 🤔🤔🤔 Every post about Asante and registered on DC just before he signed for the club so you could be on to something ! My money is on a mate, relative or Agent though........ Whoever he is, I suspect he's probably right. If Murphy was still here, so too would be Asante. I don't see that as a major revelation. However, if the implication is that that means we were wrong to treat Murphy's approach with suspicion, then I can't agree with that.
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Post by waggoner on Jun 9, 2020 8:13:00 GMT
Just a HUNCH, but is the Grimreaper Asante by any chance 🤔🤔🤔 If it was you could at least forgive him for not knowing the difference between "to" and "too" or "their" and "there".Oh I don't know. He states that he has a sauce that he won't divulge maybe he just was not HP here
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Post by Churton Blue on Jun 9, 2020 8:19:35 GMT
Every post about Asante and registered on DC just before he signed for the club so you could be on to something ! My money is on a mate, relative or Agent though........ Whoever he is, I suspect he's probably right. If Murphy was still here, so too would be Asante. I don't see that as a major revelation. However, if the implication is that that means we were wrong to treat Murphy's approach with suspicion, then I can't agree with that. The Grimreaper was certainly trying to get a contract for Asante on Jan 3rd 2020 when they created a thread Clubs Looking At Akwasi Asante with this post. Has anybody else heard the rumour that Stockport and Salford have been looking at Asante. If he carries on scoring I think we will struggle to keep him unless Chester come up with a contract to see other clubs off and before his current one runs out at the end of the season. After Joel Taylor signed they were getting very frustrated on Feb 20th and posted this. Asante from what I have heard has not signed a new contract, as he has not been offered one. He needs to be signed up before other clubs come in for him. Where are you going to find a 20 goal a season striker.
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Post by arthuro on Jun 9, 2020 11:17:52 GMT
Why wasn’t a contract offered in order to cash in on him rather than to allow him go on a free? Clubs pay Good money for 20 goal strikers. If he signed we could have sold him on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 11:35:44 GMT
Why wasn’t a contract offered in order to cash in on him rather than to allow him go on a free? Clubs pay Good money for 20 goal strikers. If he signed we could have sold him on. I’m not sure if you got the memo but Stuart Murphy walked away from the club due to his takeover collapse and the rumour is he paid Asante’s wage.
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Post by rcb on Jun 9, 2020 11:59:31 GMT
Why wasn’t a contract offered in order to cash in on him rather than to allow him go on a free? Clubs pay Good money for 20 goal strikers. If he signed we could have sold him on. I’m not sure if you got the memo but Stuart Murphy walked away from the club due to his takeover collapse and the rumour is he paid Asante’s wage. Don’t need a memo to know that other players were given new contracts long before Murphy walked away.
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Post by Lobster on Jun 9, 2020 12:04:24 GMT
I’m not sure if you got the memo but Stuart Murphy walked away from the club due to his takeover collapse and the rumour is he paid Asante’s wage. Don’t need a memo to know that other players were given new contracts long before Murphy walked away. Probably because a decision was made that we could afford to do that with or without Murphy's money, while Asante might have been a different matter.
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Post by Jack on Jun 9, 2020 12:17:51 GMT
Not sure we need an inquest over this to be honest. He was offered more money and left - that will always be the way.
I understand some people feel frustrated that he's gone to a much smaller club, but status and history means absolutely nothing compared to millionaire financial backers.
As much as I rate Akwasi, I don't think he is irreplaceable. He had a fantastic strikers instinct to be in the right place, but was often very off the pace and not in the game. It's possible that we could actually improve as a side with a more mobile centre forward - we could see more goals from other areas of the pitch.
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Post by rcb on Jun 9, 2020 12:45:39 GMT
Don’t need a memo to know that other players were given new contracts long before Murphy walked away. Probably because a decision was made that we could afford to do that with or without Murphy's money, while Asante might have been a different matter. 😀
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Post by Lobster on Jun 9, 2020 13:30:00 GMT
Probably because a decision was made that we could afford to do that with or without Murphy's money, while Asante might have been a different matter. 😀 I don't claim to know, but you're the one trying to probe for something and it seems a fairly logical conclusion to me. It was no secret that Murphy's pledges helped bring Asante here.
Agree with Jack, there's no need for an inquest over it.
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Post by rcb on Jun 9, 2020 15:29:31 GMT
I don't claim to know, but you're the one trying to probe for something and it seems a fairly logical conclusion to me. It was no secret that Murphy's pledges helped bring Asante here.
Agree with Jack, there's no need for an inquest over it.
No disrespect, and I’m not trying to probe. With the information at my disposal I interpret it as one where a decision was made that others were deemed better value for a renewed contract and that Asante was not considered. Very sensible of the lad to secure a contract for what is otherwise an uncertain future, both because of Covid, and also his injury prone history. Good business by all parties.
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Post by Imperial on Jun 10, 2020 19:27:14 GMT
I don't claim to know, but you're the one trying to probe for something and it seems a fairly logical conclusion to me. It was no secret that Murphy's pledges helped bring Asante here.
Agree with Jack, there's no need for an inquest over it.
No disrespect, and I’m not trying to probe. With the information at my disposal I interpret it as one where a decision was made that others were deemed better value for a renewed contract and that Asante was not considered. Very sensible of the lad to secure a contract for what is otherwise an uncertain future, both because of Covid, and also his injury prone history. Good business by all parties. That's not how I understood it, I understood that the managers were waiting to hear what contribution SM was planning on making to the playing budget for the upcoming season as he was the one funding all or part of AA's contract. I'm sure they'd have made resigning him a priority otherwise but his individual wages were outside the current budget.
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Post by Grimreaper on Jun 10, 2020 21:28:56 GMT
No disrespect, and I’m not trying to probe. With the information at my disposal I interpret it as one where a decision was made that others were deemed better value for a renewed contract and that Asante was not considered. Very sensible of the lad to secure a contract for what is otherwise an uncertain future, both because of Covid, and also his injury prone history. Good business by all parties. That's not how I understood it, I understood that the managers were waiting to hear what contribution SM was planning on making to the playing budget for the upcoming season as he was the one funding all or part of AA's contract. I'm sure they'd have made resigning him a priority otherwise but his individual wages were outside the current budget. Stortford Blue, that is exactly right, that is exactly what I have been saying, it is as simple as that. Nobody had any inkling that SM was going to pull out. All of Asante's wages and any bonus's were funded by SM and would have been for the next season if the contract had been signed.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 10, 2020 21:38:43 GMT
Well it’s a good job the contract wasn’t signed in that case, otherwise we would’ve been left with a player we couldn’t afford next season.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jun 12, 2020 14:36:52 GMT
Well it’s a good job the contract wasn’t signed in that case, otherwise we would’ve been left with a player we couldn’t afford next season. Top wages for a player that spends a third of his time, nursing old groin injuries, doesnt seem like good business to me. OK if someone else is paying his wages, but not good, if we have to pay the wages ourselves.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jun 12, 2020 15:55:16 GMT
Well it’s a good job the contract wasn’t signed in that case, otherwise we would’ve been left with a player we couldn’t afford next season. Top wages for a player that spends a third of his time, nursing old groin injuries, doesnt seem like good business to me. OK if someone else is paying his wages, but not good, if we have to pay the wages ourselves. Your top wages earners need to play every week, and be 8 out of 10 most weeks. In recent years this hasn't often been the case. This has put more pressure on some of the other players.
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