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Jun 18, 2020 9:25:30 GMT
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Post by Johnnybling on Jun 18, 2020 9:25:30 GMT
So with the playoffs now confirmed, do we know when the match with Alty will be played? Also who we have available!! If i recall correctly we now need to play three matches to go up? I am assuming all our matches are away from home and playing behind closed doors?
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Jun 18, 2020 9:51:35 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 18, 2020 9:51:35 GMT
The club are waiting to weigh up the costs involved before deciding to go ahead with competing in the playoffs.
It looks as if it’s £50,000 for a one-off game at Alty. Would you go ahead?
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Post by anotherexile83 on Jun 18, 2020 9:54:16 GMT
The club are waiting to weigh up the costs involved before deciding to go ahead with competing in the playoffs. It looks as if it’s £50,000 for a one-off game at Alty. Would you go ahead? Is that £50k per club or £50k shared between us and Alty?
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Jun 18, 2020 9:55:39 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 18, 2020 9:55:39 GMT
The club are waiting to weigh up the costs involved before deciding to go ahead with competing in the playoffs. It looks as if it’s £50,000 for a one-off game at Alty. Would you go ahead? Is that £50k per club or £50k shared between us and Alty? Per club. Taking into account wages, usual match day expense, twice weekly Covid testing for all staff etc.
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Jun 18, 2020 10:06:07 GMT
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Post by Moltisanti on Jun 18, 2020 10:06:07 GMT
The club are waiting to weigh up the costs involved before deciding to go ahead with competing in the playoffs. It looks as if it’s £50,000 for a one-off game at Alty. Would you go ahead? Is that £50k per club or £50k shared between us and Alty? Nobody knows how much it is. Just people throwing figures about on twitter
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Jun 18, 2020 10:15:50 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 18, 2020 10:15:50 GMT
To be fair it is a non league “expert” journalist who is being the most outspoken about it.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 18, 2020 10:20:34 GMT
I don't believe its financially viable at the moment unless the Board can confirm otherwise
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Jun 18, 2020 10:51:41 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 18, 2020 10:51:41 GMT
York will be returning to training on Monday so it looks like they’ve gone all in, which doesn’t surprise me as they’ve got the most to lose considering they were actually top of the league right up until yesterday when PPG placings were ratified and Kings Lynn leapfrogged them to the title.
Massive wage budget too, they’re fully banking on getting the promotion they feel they should have. If they were to fail in the playoffs the financial repercussions involved could be dangerous.
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Jun 18, 2020 11:02:05 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 18, 2020 11:02:05 GMT
Meanwhile in the league above, the Boreham Wood chairman has remortgaged his house to play in the playoffs if they go ahead (though the club have voted against playoffs).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 11:05:28 GMT
Ollie Bayliss has just tweeted this regarding York
York City continues to call for a 2nd promotion place if playoffs don’t happen.
The club has written to the League but received no assurances.
They’ve launched a petition calling for new regulations to protect the original number of promotion places.
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Jun 18, 2020 11:23:19 GMT
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Post by Johnnybling on Jun 18, 2020 11:23:19 GMT
No way will it cost £50k - plus i am sure out players would play for free if there was a chance of promotion.
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Jun 18, 2020 12:03:30 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 18, 2020 12:03:30 GMT
No way will it cost £50k - plus i am sure out players would play for free if there was a chance of promotion. That’s the estimate for the whole playoffs I believe - three matches. And as for your second point, don’t be daft.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 18, 2020 13:31:36 GMT
With all these estimates being banded about is that the cost per club as surely its got to be more expensive for the home team or does the away team have to cover some of the expenses in staging the games as we would have 3 away games then our cost might not be as high or am I being thick or what?
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Jun 18, 2020 13:41:37 GMT
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Post by dannydeva on Jun 18, 2020 13:41:37 GMT
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Jun 18, 2020 13:46:25 GMT
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Post by jimgreen on Jun 18, 2020 13:46:25 GMT
With all these estimates being banded about is that the cost per club as surely its got to be more expensive for the home team or does the away team have to cover some of the expenses in staging the games as we would have 3 away games then our cost might not be as high or am I being thick or what? For play-off games both clubs share the costs of staging matches.
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Jun 18, 2020 13:52:06 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 18, 2020 13:52:06 GMT
Said on another thread, usual TV money is £5k home team (think it’s £1k away team). Assuming the same applies here it’s a drop in the ocean compared to the costs involved.
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Jun 18, 2020 14:14:51 GMT
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Post by agl on Jun 18, 2020 14:14:51 GMT
With all these estimates being banded about is that the cost per club as surely its got to be more expensive for the home team or does the away team have to cover some of the expenses in staging the games as we would have 3 away games then our cost might not be as high or am I being thick or what? Teams are currently using three coaches to get to games for a start
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Jun 18, 2020 14:18:51 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 18, 2020 14:18:51 GMT
Meanwhile in the league above, the Boreham Wood chairman has remortgaged his house to play in the playoffs if they go ahead (though the club have voted against playoffs). Also Halifax are doing a crowd funding similar to our Boost The Budget but just to raise money to compete in the playoffs.
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Jun 18, 2020 14:25:14 GMT
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Post by exiled on Jun 18, 2020 14:25:14 GMT
Playoffs are an unnecessary gamble we could do without IMO.With the Seasons budget all but spent. And has been already mentioned when the season does eventually start, we could be back to playing regional football anyway.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jun 18, 2020 14:51:17 GMT
With all these estimates being banded about is that the cost per club as surely its got to be more expensive for the home team or does the away team have to cover some of the expenses in staging the games as we would have 3 away games then our cost might not be as high or am I being thick or what? For play-off games both clubs share the costs of staging matches. cheers Jim
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Jun 18, 2020 14:55:41 GMT
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Post by Old Seal on Jun 18, 2020 14:55:41 GMT
If we all paid an entrance fee for each game, that would surely pay for the cost of staging the game.
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Post by eyeswideopen on Jun 18, 2020 15:14:36 GMT
I dont want to advertise the company and give them unnecessary unwanted attention, but we as a global company are using a testing facility that charges £250 per tester per day, each tester is capable doing 50 tests a day and they will come to your workplace to carry out the testing. Given the number of players, staff etc and the fact they need to be tested twice per week.this would amount to £500 a week, a lot less than has been mentioned on here.
If someone from the club DMs me i will be more than happy to share the companies details.
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Post by Churton Blue on Jun 18, 2020 16:15:49 GMT
Meanwhile in the league above, the Boreham Wood chairman has remortgaged his house to play in the playoffs if they go ahead (though the club have voted against playoffs). Also Halifax are doing a crowd funding similar to our Boost The Budget but just to raise money to compete in the playoffs. There are trying to raise 20k towards the costs but have not stated what the costs are. They started selling Season Tickets on May 17th so I guess a number of fans will have bought them hence the low target.
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Jun 18, 2020 16:25:31 GMT
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Post by g1 on Jun 18, 2020 16:25:31 GMT
More trouble than its worth these playoffs pull out build for next year
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Post by rainhillblue9 on Jun 18, 2020 16:54:26 GMT
I don’t think we should pullout of the playoffs as it would send all the wrong messages.Its going to be a tough ask winning it,playing all games away but playing behind closed doors does not have the same benefit as normal for the home teams.If we did go up the budget would be boosted by being in the National league.Surely BT will up the monies they pay for televising the games as a goodwill gesture knowing the clubs are struggling.
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Jun 18, 2020 17:31:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 17:31:54 GMT
The fact we’re even discussing possible promotion (with just three wins) shows that the club once again is pushing in the right direction. Long may it continue.
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Jun 18, 2020 17:42:48 GMT
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Post by bluejay on Jun 18, 2020 17:42:48 GMT
An opportunity where we start 3 games away from promotion when we were planning to spend a full year trying to get promotion seems worth the punt (if the 50k does prove to be a gross overestimation).
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Jun 18, 2020 17:46:32 GMT
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Post by agl on Jun 18, 2020 17:46:32 GMT
An opportunity where we start 3 games away from promotion when we were planning to spend a full year trying to get promotion seems worth the punt (if the 50k does prove to be a gross overestimation). Agree with this. If it's financially viable. Treat it as a free hit and someone tell the managers that Altrincham are not Barcelona
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Jun 18, 2020 18:03:54 GMT
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 18, 2020 18:03:54 GMT
I don’t think we should pullout of the playoffs as it would send all the wrong messages.Its going to be a tough ask winning it,playing all games away but playing behind closed doors does not have the same benefit as normal for the home teams.If we did go up the budget would be boosted by being in the National league.Surely BT will up the monies they pay for televising the games as a goodwill gesture knowing the clubs are struggling. As has been discussed we could end up in a regional league almagamated between L2/NL/NLN next season (whenever that starts) anyway.
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Post by Churton Blue on Jun 18, 2020 18:21:27 GMT
I do worry that some people have forgotten about the pandemic. The EFL and National League are pushing to start the Leagues with a 25% capacity limit. That will cost us 125k to 150k. If the play offs cost 50k to 75k and we lose the last game we could easily be 225k worse off in a few months . The prize for winning is 45k extra in central funding. Does that actually seam like a decent gamble to anyone ? If the club has money it must be kept to mitigate against the prospect of playing with a 25% capacity otherwise bankruptcy could easily be the outcome.
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