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Post by tonya on Jun 29, 2020 7:40:10 GMT
There won't be any TV money. Let's face it with the FA Cup semis being the same weekend as the first play off matches no one is going to be interested in watching a match between us and Alty apart from us and Alty fans. If we were to take part in the play offs then the best way to make some cash out of it would be to live stream it and charge on some sort of pay per view basis. Unfortunately it's not likely to happen because there won't be enough time to organise anything. Regarding the FA Cup semis, I wonder if the teams involved will be asked to pay for the preparation of Wembley, i.e; initial cleaning, cleaning between matches, etc... or will the FA pay for this? My understanding is that there have been talks about BT showing the matches. They are desperate for live UK football. However, streaming would be more lucrative and I see no reason that cannot be organized in the time frame. I am sure the club have explored the option of streaming and hope that it can be achieved. On the face of it it seems a potential way out for us to meet the financial pitfall of entering the playoffs. I wonder how much Swansea made last weekend streaming their match against Luton? I paid up to watch it even. (Worst game I have seen for some years by the way!) When will a decision need to be made?
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Post by agl on Jun 29, 2020 8:15:24 GMT
My understanding is that there have been talks about BT showing the matches. They are desperate for live UK football. However, streaming would be more lucrative and I see no reason that cannot be organized in the time frame. I am sure the club have explored the option of streaming and hope that it can be achieved. On the face of it it seems a potential way out for us to meet the financial pitfall of entering the playoffs. I wonder how much Swansea made last weekend streaming their match against Luton? I paid up to watch it even. (Worst game I have seen for some years by the way!) When will a decision need to be made? Board meeting today so suspect we will find out later or tomorrow.
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Post by frank on Jun 29, 2020 8:33:01 GMT
The biggest hurdle to taking part in the play offs is the cost . Would presume the amount of people tested would directly affect the total outlay.Therefore are we going to have a small as squad as possible. If so who would not make the squad would all our young loan players not be involved and some of the senior pros who have not really contributed all season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 9:02:37 GMT
The biggest hurdle to taking part in the play offs is the cost . Would presume the amount of people tested would directly affect the total outlay.Therefore are we going to have a small as squad as possible. If so who would not make the squad would all our young loan players not be involved and some of the senior pros who have not really contributed all season. No goalkeeper, no Elton, no Asante. Grey and Jones return to parent clubs. Assuming the rest have stayed on and we get zero positive tests I think we have a squad of - Morgan K.Roberts Taylor Waters Livesey Grand (retired ?) Stopforth Burton G.Roberts Glendon Murray Johnstone Jackson Elliott Hughes Waring Dudley Goodwin
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Post by Forever Blue on Jun 29, 2020 9:04:26 GMT
The biggest hurdle to taking part in the play offs is the cost . Would presume the amount of people tested would directly affect the total outlay.Therefore are we going to have a small as squad as possible. If so who would not make the squad would all our young loan players not be involved and some of the senior pros who have not really contributed all season. I still don't get how the costs can be so high and would like to see a break down of them ? we are not talking about policing stewards lighting for the stadium ect 1 how much do we pay players at this level per game ? 2 how much does covid testing cost ? 3 how much does a ref and lines men cost per game ? 4 take players in at the shortest route ( like at the deva from one of the outside gates into the changing rooms) how much does a deep clean cost of the changing rooms. 5 A medical officer per game and maybe Saint Johns for injuries. If I have missed anything feel free to add them and if BT want to show these games and given the situation they should pay half imho.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 29, 2020 9:14:02 GMT
The biggest hurdle to taking part in the play offs is the cost . Would presume the amount of people tested would directly affect the total outlay.Therefore are we going to have a small as squad as possible. If so who would not make the squad would all our young loan players not be involved and some of the senior pros who have not really contributed all season. No goalkeeper, no Elton, no Asante. Grey and Jones return to parent clubs. Assuming the rest have stayed on and we get zero positive tests I think we have a squad of - Morgan K.Roberts Taylor Waters Livesey Grand (retired ?) Stopforth Burton G.Roberts Glendon Murray Johnstone Jackson Elliott Hughes Waring Dudley Goodwin Theo Roberts too. Especially important as Griffiths has left!
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Post by Lobster on Jun 29, 2020 9:17:59 GMT
What are the rules on loaning players at the moment? What's to stop a League One or League Two club loaning their star players to a Conference North side as a "favour", given that they're not playing themselves?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 9:24:21 GMT
No goalkeeper, no Elton, no Asante. Grey and Jones return to parent clubs. Assuming the rest have stayed on and we get zero positive tests I think we have a squad of - Morgan K.Roberts Taylor Waters Livesey Grand (retired ?) Stopforth Burton G.Roberts Glendon Murray Johnstone Jackson Elliott Hughes Waring Dudley Goodwin Theo Roberts too. Especially important as Griffiths has left! Yes, I forgot about him.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jun 29, 2020 9:37:54 GMT
What are the rules on loaning players at the moment? What's to stop a League One or League Two club loaning their star players to a Conference North side as a "favour", given that they're not playing themselves? We should be all over this, and I'm sure if the parent club is satisfied that we have put the appropriate covid measures in place it could be a very worthwhile mutual agreement
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Post by lincolnexile on Jun 29, 2020 10:07:46 GMT
What are the rules on loaning players at the moment? What's to stop a League One or League Two club loaning their star players to a Conference North side as a "favour", given that they're not playing themselves? We should be all over this, and I'm sure if the parent club is satisfied that we have put the appropriate covid measures in place it could be a very worthwhile mutual agreement I reckon I read somewhere that a player has to be registered with a team on March 31st to take part in the play offs.
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Post by Oaks Blue on Jun 29, 2020 10:14:39 GMT
We should be all over this, and I'm sure if the parent club is satisfied that we have put the appropriate covid measures in place it could be a very worthwhile mutual agreement I reckon I read somewhere that a player has to be registered with a team on March 31st to take part in the play offs. Ahh, is that normal protocol or special ruling for covid times? Seems fair seeing as they have messed us all around and our best player left while they were doing nothing
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Post by lincolnexile on Jun 29, 2020 10:21:48 GMT
I reckon I read somewhere that a player has to be registered with a team on March 31st to take part in the play offs. Ahh, is that normal protocol or special ruling for covid times? Seems fair seeing as they have messed us all around and our best player left while they were doing nothing Not sure but I read it on the Brackley Town web-site. Just had a look again and it says that the players have to be registered on March 16th but they haven't said what the rules are regarding loan players. York have one loan player out at Boston and one at Brackley
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Post by Harry Lime on Jun 29, 2020 10:43:00 GMT
No goalkeeper, no Elton, no Asante. Grey and Jones return to parent clubs. Assuming the rest have stayed on and we get zero positive tests I think we have a squad of - Morgan K.Roberts Taylor Waters Livesey Grand (retired ?) Stopforth Burton G.Roberts Glendon Murray Johnstone Jackson Elliott Hughes Waring Dudley Goodwin Theo Roberts too. Especially important as Griffiths has left! Louis Gray?? He was on loan to us in March from Carlisle. Is he still qualified to play?
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Post by frank on Jun 29, 2020 10:43:13 GMT
Theo Roberts too. Especially important as Griffiths has left! Yes, I forgot about him. Also Noble and Thomson . Both had good loan spells last season and probably had the best performances in the first team when given their chances.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 11:10:30 GMT
Also Noble and Thomson . Both had good loan spells last season and probably had the best performances in the first team when given their chances. I think it’s safe to write Thomson off with Roberts and Morgan in front of him but yes Noble of course as well as Marsh-Hughes
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:06:26 GMT
My understanding is that there have been talks about BT showing the matches. They are desperate for live UK football. However, streaming would be more lucrative and I see no reason that cannot be organized in the time frame. I am sure the club have explored the option of streaming and hope that it can be achieved. On the face of it it seems a potential way out for us to meet the financial pitfall of entering the playoffs. I wonder how much Swansea made last weekend streaming their match against Luton? I paid up to watch it even. (Worst game I have seen for some years by the way!) When will a decision need to be made? I agree and hope the club have explored this sort of avenue, but like you say its definitely not as straight forward as those saying "we should stream the games to cover costs" the ifollow Swansea used is a bespoke package created for the EFL clubs and i wonder if it is achievable for us We'd be taking about establishing a service to be used potentially once. that would need a subscription feed behind a paywall to prevent people watching for free or sharing the links. with a private payment system. we need the technology and bandwidth to reliably cover the game at an away ground with staff (more testing). I't a massive operation that may well need those wanting to watch to download software given the limited reaction to and difficulties our majority older fanbase have had with streaming CFU meetings, it's far from simple. Also we'd need a guaranteed amount of uptake on the streaming to cover what i'd imagine could be considerable set up costs before we even turn a profit.
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Post by CH2 on Jun 29, 2020 13:08:33 GMT
Could we also explore the option of opening the bar for this too? If pubs are allowed to open from 4th July, would it be financially viable to look at getting a marquee with pop up bar (to adhere to social distancing requirements) and charge a small entrance fee to help cover costs? Or are we dependant on D&A doing this?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 29, 2020 13:41:17 GMT
Could we also explore the option of opening the bar for this too? If pubs are allowed to open from 4th July, would it be financially viable to look at getting a marquee with pop up bar (to adhere to social distancing requirements) and charge a small entrance fee to help cover costs? Or are we dependant on D&A doing this? Opening the bar for what? If it’s live streamed, do you mean?
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Post by CH2 on Jun 29, 2020 13:53:27 GMT
Could we also explore the option of opening the bar for this too? If pubs are allowed to open from 4th July, would it be financially viable to look at getting a marquee with pop up bar (to adhere to social distancing requirements) and charge a small entrance fee to help cover costs? Or are we dependant on D&A doing this? Opening the bar for what? If it’s live streamed, do you mean? Yes, if it's live streamed. I know you could argue that it's lost revenue if people are at the ground and not paying to watch it at home but having somewhere to watch it, with a beer, fellow blues and a bit of atmosphere might be a bit more alluring, especially if we progress.
Again though, I suppose it all comes down to cost.
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Post by agl on Jun 29, 2020 14:02:55 GMT
Opening the bar for what? If it’s live streamed, do you mean? Yes, if it's live streamed. I know you could argue that it's lost revenue if people are at the ground and not paying to watch it at home but having somewhere to watch it, with a beer, fellow blues and a bit of atmosphere might be a bit more alluring, especially if we progress.
Again though, I suppose it all comes down to cost.
I believe it's one of the conditions of taking part that you have to ensure no fans congregate at the ground, so that's a non-starter I'm afraid. It's a recipe for disaster, with people trying to sneak in.
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Post by CH2 on Jun 29, 2020 14:07:52 GMT
Yes, if it's live streamed. I know you could argue that it's lost revenue if people are at the ground and not paying to watch it at home but having somewhere to watch it, with a beer, fellow blues and a bit of atmosphere might be a bit more alluring, especially if we progress.
Again though, I suppose it all comes down to cost.
I believe it's one of the conditions of taking part that you have to ensure no fans congregate at the ground, so that's a non-starter I'm afraid. It's a recipe for disaster, with people trying to sneak in. Damn! Plan B it is then. I'll save my flares and fireworks to fire at the Town Hall when we get promoted.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jun 29, 2020 14:09:35 GMT
Yes, if it's live streamed. I know you could argue that it's lost revenue if people are at the ground and not paying to watch it at home but having somewhere to watch it, with a beer, fellow blues and a bit of atmosphere might be a bit more alluring, especially if we progress.
Again though, I suppose it all comes down to cost.
I believe it's one of the conditions of taking part that you have to ensure no fans congregate at the ground, so that's a non-starter I'm afraid. It's a recipe for disaster, with people trying to sneak in. To be fair the game won’t be at our ground... It’ll just be like the pub opening.
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Post by agl on Jun 29, 2020 14:17:29 GMT
I believe it's one of the conditions of taking part that you have to ensure no fans congregate at the ground, so that's a non-starter I'm afraid. It's a recipe for disaster, with people trying to sneak in. To be fair the game won’t be at our ground... It’ll just be like the pub opening. Yes, sorry, brain freeze there!
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