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Post by Matt on Jul 19, 2020 16:08:59 GMT
For me Alty were the better side, just. The subs all played well when they came on but I agreed with the starting lineup apart from Burton, he's had a handful of decent games in the two seasons he's been with us despite turning up with a great reputation. Heard rumours that Roberts wasn't in a position to start & possibly the same with Stopforth but the latter made an appearance from the bench which suggsests he'd have been a better shout. Morgan has continued to impress & I think we'll see more of him next season. Probably need two solid central midfielders next season & look at giving Noble more game time. Agree with that, Hughes and Dudley also looked sharp. Also need to look at a younger centre back to partner either Livesey or Grand at the back, similar to what we did when we signed Heneghan with Sharps next to him.
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Post by agl on Jul 19, 2020 16:16:50 GMT
All you ask is a level playing field. The referee denied us that. I can take being beaten by a better team and maybe we would have been, but he ensured that we will never know. Had the roles been reversed we'd have been screaming for a pen. We were horribly exposed, which shouldn't have happened at only 1-0 down, Mooney took a bad touch, felt a hand on his shoulder and went down. From the ref's angle it must have looked clear cut. I've shown the replay to a couple of neutrals and both felt that while it was soft it was understandable it was given. Red card is another matter, but presumably the ref decided rightly or wrongly that Johnston wasn't in a position to play the ball so the double jeopardy rule didn't apply. The defending leading up to the penalty was shocking....why was a winger our last man?
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 16:28:11 GMT
The commentators touched on this but I also thought we showed up some of the recent Premier League borefests. Apparently millionaires need match practice, cool weather and a crowd to gee them up, but part-timer can just go for it. Yeah, there were mistakes and rustiness, but there was no lethargy from either side.
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Post by tonya on Jul 19, 2020 16:32:10 GMT
Pity we didn't start as we began the second half. Too safe and hesitant. Once we threw caution to the wind we were the better team.
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Post by paw2904 on Jul 19, 2020 16:34:37 GMT
I really wanted the Blues to win. I really fancied our chances next week against York as I thought today's game would have been the toughest - for lots of reasons. Once we went 3 down and started the fight back I really wanted to get to penalties. I thought we would win on pens.But no. :-( Having said all that this maybe a good result for us in the long run. We now have more time to prepare for next season. We won't need such a high playing budget. Who knows what the financial situation will be like next season - whenever that starts. Restricted crowd numbers? No away fans? We are in an OK place. Good feelings at the Club. Basis of a good squad. Committed Managers. Board who are taking tough decisions sensibly and communicating well. A boosted budget! Next season. No play-off drama. Just go up as CHAMPIONS,
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Jul 19, 2020 16:42:40 GMT
As per other thread really frustrated to have paid for the stream and not been able to access it constantly being returned to the screen requesting I pay and subscribe really annoying. After an awful 5 months or so for everyone we now get shafted by the officials Really disappointing . Our prep time was obviously not ideal and credit to the managers and all the players for giving it a real go. Sometimes it’s just not meant to be and today was one of those days. I don’t feel iits appropriate to single anybody out Other than to credit all the supporters for their remarkable donations in these awful times and the commitment shown by the players and management. Looking forward we need to bring a few fresh faces in. Sad that we shall be in this awful league again . We need collectively to push with the fundraising g effort which is already massive in know to maximise the budget available for next season whenever it should start. Disappointing afternoon result wise but we mustn’t lose sight of the remarkable efforts from everyone and use it moving forward
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Post by thetheremin on Jul 19, 2020 17:28:29 GMT
Really disappointed but the only criticism of the match is the standard of refereeing. Awful. No criticism for either club as both teams turned up to put in a shift, and on another day with a decent ref we could have easily won. Fair play to Alty for hosting the game so well in these weird times, and best of luck to them against York.
As for the streaming, mine was 3 minutes behind the entire time for some reason. So I knew from Twitter what was happening before I saw it on the screen. The partisan commentary was entertaining.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 17:29:13 GMT
If anyone cares, Gateshead won the other playoff, so it's another trip to boring Brackley next year.
Think I'd like Gateshead to go up just because it's one less tedious trip to the North East.
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Post by Lobster on Jul 19, 2020 17:31:09 GMT
Really disappointed but the only criticism of the match is the standard of refereeing. Awful. No criticism for either club as both teams turned up to put in a shift, and on another day with a decent ref we could have easily won. Fair play to Alty for hosting the game so well in these weird times, and best of luck to them against York. As for the streaming, mine was 3 minutes behind the entire time for some reason. So I knew from Twitter what was happening before I saw it on the screen. The partisan commentary was entertaining. Televised football is always a little behind real time. I had a Liverpool game on the radio a while ago and kept hearing my neighbour, who was watching it on TV, cheer the goals about a minute and a half after I knew they'd been scored.
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Post by tonya on Jul 19, 2020 17:31:38 GMT
Dorking Wanderers formed 1999 beat my local club today, Bath City. Not surprised. Heard manager talking at the start of the season. Bright and refreshing attitude. It is depressing to see us having to accept our lowly state and listen to fans accepting it.
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Post by agl on Jul 19, 2020 17:34:46 GMT
If anyone cares, Gateshead won the other playoff, so it's another trip to boring Brackley next year. Think I'd like Gateshead to go up just because it's one less tedious trip to the North East. Brackley is my nearest game but the thought of going there again makes me even more depressed. Awful ground, no support, dull town. Boston and York are decent away days so hope they don't go up for purely selfish reasons. Having said that there may be no away fans anywhere next season 😭
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Jul 19, 2020 17:38:28 GMT
Dorking Wanderers formed 1999 beat my local club today, Bath City. Not surprised. Heard manager talking at the start of the season. Bright and refreshing attitude. It is depressing to see us having to accept our lowly state and listen to fans accepting it. I don’t think that getting to the play offs and raising over £100k for the playing budget for next season to go further is accepting of our current league position.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 19, 2020 17:41:43 GMT
Dorking Wanderers formed 1999 beat my local club today, Bath City. Not surprised. Heard manager talking at the start of the season. Bright and refreshing attitude. It is depressing to see us having to accept our lowly state and listen to fans accepting it. We’re 11 years younger than them, of course it’s a lowly state but who says we’re accepting it?
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Jul 19, 2020 18:10:45 GMT
Frankly, we were never good enough to go up. There are too many weaknesses across the team. We need more pace at centre back. More height and aggression. in midfield and at least one proven goalscorer. Never been sure what Johnson brings to the table?
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Post by cameandabel on Jul 19, 2020 19:01:59 GMT
Mooney assist, Durrell goal. Who did we effectively swap them (and Mahon) for? Johnston, who has been dreadful since he signed. That tackle for the shocking penalty decision is probably the only good thing he’s done all season. Grand’s winner against King’s Lynn owed much to Johnston cutting inside and having a go. Not many other moments from JJ besides that.
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Post by rcb on Jul 19, 2020 19:02:58 GMT
Perhaps a blessing in disguise. Absolutely nothing on the pitch to suggest National League survival, and that includes piecing a squad together from both teams! We’ll never know if Asante would have been the difference. Sentiment has no part in competitive sport, and unfortunately the Managers got the team selection wrong, in my opinion. I’ve said all season I’d be happy with Livesey or Grand, but not both. Burton should be nowhere near the starting line up, let alone as Captain. It was glaringly obvious that the system and player combo meant Wareing was never going to be played into the match, but a too familiar lack of a Plan B was there again, unfortunately, until too late. Great try though. For next season, let’s hope Worsnop addresses the problem of the managers inability to find a decent goalkeeper. End of the road for Livesey, Grand, Burton, and Johnston for me. We need to get K Roberts and Morgan on the pitch together, and consider moving Taylor forward. For once, I was impressed with Dudley and his position on the pitch, so credit to him. I’d like to see a completely new spine to the team; keeper, centre backs, centre mid, and centre forward, so that’s minimally six new faces for me.
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Post by dmcnally on Jul 19, 2020 19:47:04 GMT
Keeper didn't look great in the Cheshire Cup game against Tranmere either. Hope he's not been promised a contract for next season, in what I've seen in 3 games. Good save followed by an absolute howler. We're not going to have another season of this, are we?
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Post by dmcnally on Jul 19, 2020 19:53:29 GMT
Dudley showed why he should have started. Elliott and Waring started bright winning long balls but quickly faded.
Glendon contender for MOTM- pair a taller, more commanding centre mid with him and we're sorted there.
Every time I see Morgan I'm impressed, it's just a case of fitting him in, much like Waters on the other side.
That final 30 was everything you want from your players. Proud of them all.
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Post by agl on Jul 19, 2020 20:00:30 GMT
Keeper didn't look great in the Cheshire Cup game against Tranmere either. Hope he's not been promised a contract for next season, in what I've seen in 3 games. Good save followed by an absolute howler. We're not going to have another season of this, are we? At the moment I'd be tempted to go with Worsnop. We keep signing these young keepers and they're just too inconsistent. If not they would have been retained by their league clubs. Mind you, anyone see De Gea earlier? Made Gray look like Gordon Banks
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Post by hughie on Jul 19, 2020 20:04:28 GMT
May be we could convert Jamie Morgan into a midfield player.Stuart Mason and Roger Preece both joined as hard tackling full backs and developed into fine midfield players.
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Post by dmcnally on Jul 19, 2020 20:07:15 GMT
Good save followed by an absolute howler. We're not going to have another season of this, are we? At the moment I'd be tempted to go with Worsnop. We keep signing these young keepers and they're just too inconsistent. If not they would have been retained by their league clubs. Mind you, anyone see De Gea earlier? Made Gray look like Gordon Banks I think Worsnop was signed with the intention of him coaching a younger keeper, ideally Louis Gray... barring a disasterclass from him in the playoffs... which kinda happened. He's really no improvement on Griffiths from what I've seen.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jul 19, 2020 20:10:27 GMT
Keeper didn't look great in the Cheshire Cup game against Tranmere either. Hope he's not been promised a contract for next season, in what I've seen in 3 games. Good save followed by an absolute howler. We're not going to have another season of this, are we? Really hope not. We won't compete without a good keeper. All good teams have one. Gray is really inexperienced. He's only played 20 odd games, and most of them were for Cefn Druids. I suspect Griffiths would be the better keeper of the two right now. Dont think he's what we need. Just hope we haven't promised him a contract. It would be good to be able to bring in an experienced keeper.
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Post by chesterken on Jul 19, 2020 20:12:52 GMT
I watched some of the United game today and saw one of the best keepers in the world make a complete howler similar to Gray today, can happen to the best so let’s give the lad a chance and see what next season brings.
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Post by dmcnally on Jul 19, 2020 20:16:15 GMT
I watched some of the United game today and saw one of the best keepers in the world make a complete howler similar to Gray today, can happen to the best so let’s give the lad a chance and see what next season brings. Haha Jesus no. We've watched Griffiths do no worse and get absolutely slaughtered, why are we excusing him because he's new? We need to get scouting to see who's available because the answer is definitely not in-house.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jul 19, 2020 20:19:56 GMT
I watched some of the United game today and saw one of the best keepers in the world make a complete howler similar to Gray today, can happen to the best so let’s give the lad a chance and see what next season brings. Fair comment. However, if you see someone in 3 games, and he doesn't impress in those, why would you then sign him? It's unlikely the managers seen him play much, because he's hardly played a game. You can only make a judgement on what you actually see. Not what you want to see.
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Post by rcb on Jul 19, 2020 20:21:51 GMT
I watched some of the United game today and saw one of the best keepers in the world make a complete howler similar to Gray today, can happen to the best so let’s give the lad a chance and see what next season brings. Haha Jesus no. We've watched Griffiths do no worse and get absolutely slaughtered, why are we excusing him because he's new? We need to get scouting to see who's available because the answer is definitely not in-house. Tony Thomson had a good game.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 19, 2020 20:49:03 GMT
People forget Thompson when they talk about our ex-keepers coming up the leagues. I thought he was pretty solid for us.
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Post by Anders on Jul 19, 2020 20:55:54 GMT
People forget Thompson when they talk about our ex-keepers coming up the leagues. I thought he was pretty solid for us. Thompson threw in one of the best goalkeeping performances I've seen in 0-1 defeat at Eastleigh a few days after the Aldershot 8-2 win. On a par with Lynch at Tranmere IMO.
Was only beaten by a penalty IIRC, should have been hammered that day though.
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Post by wxmred on Jul 19, 2020 21:05:52 GMT
Poor referee, also don't think it was a penalty he went down a bit easy. Watched a match the other day Lee Mason was refereeing, he looked if he didn't want to be there.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jul 19, 2020 21:19:10 GMT
Poor referee, also don't think it was a penalty he went down a bit easy. Watched a match the other day Lee Mason was refereeing, he looked if he didn't want to be there. Wish he'd been there today instead of that idiot we had! One thing you notice as you go down the leagues is the poor(er) standard of refereeing. They know the rules but don't seem to understand the game, or apply them fairly or correctly. How many times do we see a replay and think that's not a foul, but they give a yellow card? If a player makes sure he's caught by moving into the contact, should that be a foul? Maybe it's the laws of the game, or at least the way they are being applied, that are wrong. I've posted this before, but why do EUFA etc have referees deciding on changes to the rules. Collina is head of rules changes now. It's like having the police making the laws, instead of just applying them. Just think how bad things would be if that were the case.
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