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Post by Harry Lime on Jul 21, 2020 20:08:07 GMT
New thread for a new season
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Post by chesterken on Jul 21, 2020 20:41:26 GMT
New thread for a new season I wonder how long it will be before we have player movements in or out.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jul 21, 2020 20:54:35 GMT
Let’s start a rumour then. As nobody else can afford to pay Gareth Bale on loan, we’ll do Zidane a favour and give him some match practice free of charge. Plenty of trains from Chester to Cardiff for the lad to pop home any time. I appreciate he doesn’t play in areas we need strengthening, but there’s still a chance he could get a game! He'd probably be injured more than Asante. Would need to hide his golf clubs.
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Post by g1 on Jul 21, 2020 21:30:39 GMT
Shrewsbury’s just down the road, perhaps we could tempt Joe Hart. What’s the best team of currently unwanted players we could make? Joe hart having medical at Celtic I'm lead to believe next week
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Post by g1 on Jul 21, 2020 21:31:56 GMT
Heard a tentative rumour we might be getting astles back i hope not
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 22, 2020 7:01:20 GMT
James Alabi and Jordan Archer are free agents. Would have them back in a flash.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Jul 22, 2020 7:53:58 GMT
James Alabi and Jordan Archer are free agents. Would have them back in a flash. I'd rather keep Danny Elliott and give him a run. There is definitely a player in him but he would need a run of games in a settled side for this to come out. James Alabi is a lazy player for me who goes missing far too often, and Archer just doesn't have the aggression to be a professional footballer. For a player of his physique it is criminal. Elliott, possibly Waring, one new addition (would love the experience and grit of Kevin Ellison) with Marsh-Hughes and Goodwin as back up.
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Post by Si on Jul 22, 2020 8:16:57 GMT
James Alabi and Jordan Archer are free agents. Would have them back in a flash. Never saw enough of Archer to really form an opinion on him. Looks the part but never really done it anywhere since we plucked him from wherever it was. Alabi I'd definitely have back - I know he divided opinion at times but this was the only club where he has settled and scored some goals and on his day he should be able to boss this league really. His career path since leaving us might suggest he'd struggle to get a National League club so might be worth an enquiry.
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Post by g1 on Jul 22, 2020 8:30:03 GMT
James Alabi and Jordan Archer are free agents. Would have them back in a flash. I'd rather keep Danny Elliott and give him a run. There is definitely a player in him but he would need a run of games in a settled side for this to come out. James Alabi is a lazy player for me who goes missing far too often, and Archer just doesn't have the aggression to be a professional footballer. For a player of his physique it is criminal. Elliott, possibly Waring, one new addition (would love the experience and grit of Kevin Ellison) with Marsh-Hughes and Goodwin as back up. I don't think we suit Elliott and the system we play and besides I'm not sure on him Archer not looks good but like people have said not done it at his clubs alabi yes for penalties
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 22, 2020 8:50:41 GMT
The whole “lazy” Alabi thing is a myth, he largely put the effort in and he could run. 17 goals in a side struggling at the wrong end of a tough National league is not to be sniffed at.
Archer is a lad we sold to the Football League for money so he must have something about him. He did look raw whilst he was here because we’d signed him from obscurity and perhaps the move he made has set him back a year or two.
I, too, would like to see Elliott given a consistent run of games. He’s shown flashes.
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Post by RonD on Jul 22, 2020 11:47:36 GMT
Alabi would be a great fit for this team’s style of play. Also, Rooney would add the additional bite we need to midfield, with some goal power too. I’d also take a chance on his brother John 😀 Bit late for John. Signed for Stockport a few says ago.
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Post by Jack on Jul 22, 2020 11:57:24 GMT
I'd say Elliot looks a decent option, but we need to get him facing the way he's shooting. Clearly a player who will feed off through balls and run the channels well, but he's often played as a bit of a target man for us with his back to goal - doesn't suit him.
I'd like to see us prioritise the no10 role in the transfer market. Somebody who can help the midfield out but has an eye for a pass as well. Dudley is capable of it but too inconsistent to rely on.
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Post by Arthur's Carpet slipper on Jul 22, 2020 12:45:03 GMT
I'd say Elliot looks a decent option, but we need to get him facing the way he's shooting. Clearly a player who will feed off through balls and run the channels well, but he's often played as a bit of a target man for us with his back to goal - doesn't suit him. I'd like to see us prioritise the no10 role in the transfer market. Somebody who can help the midfield out but has an eye for a pass as well. Dudley is capable of it but too inconsistent to rely on. Elliot made some intelligent runs early doors against Altrincham but then got caught offside as well. Seems to have something about him but looks to be trying too hard to make an impact
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Post by Imperial on Jul 22, 2020 13:52:29 GMT
I think Alabi has had his best season. He was so lightweight & won nothing in the air. Archer definitely showed promise but was on a hiding to nothing coming into that team at that time, that said he hasn't really done well elsewhere since he left.Elliott hasn't had a run of games up front, he's generally been pushed out wide. I think his loan spell showed what he could be capable of.
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Post by Deva Chanter on Jul 22, 2020 14:36:19 GMT
I think Alabi has had his best season. He was so lightweight & won nothing in the air. Archer definitely showed promise but was on a hiding to nothing coming into that team at that time, that said he hasn't really done well elsewhere since he left.Elliott hasn't had a run of games up front, he's generally been pushed out wide. I think his loan spell showed what he could be capable of. Alabi got a lot of criticism for that during his time here and I still think it was really unfair. He's 5'9 and people seem to be of the impression he was some sort of target man just because he was well built. I'd be delighted to have him back personally.
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Post by Harry Lime on Jul 22, 2020 15:49:00 GMT
I'd say Elliot looks a decent option, but we need to get him facing the way he's shooting. Clearly a player who will feed off through balls and run the channels well, but he's often played as a bit of a target man for us with his back to goal - doesn't suit him. I'd like to see us prioritise the no10 role in the transfer market. Somebody who can help the midfield out but has an eye for a pass as well. Dudley is capable of it but too inconsistent to rely on. Elliott does give the impression he'll do well, given time. He gives glimpses of class. He has genuine pace and a really good left foot. As you say, he needs to be running onto the ball, rather than back to goal. Issue is, he needs to make runs right to left to get the ball to get a shot in, but rarely does. I'm not sure we'd want to be relying on Elliott and Waring to score enough to challenge to win this league. Excellent options from the bench, or to wheel in for a few games, though. On the Alabi and Archer points, they'd actually make a decent partnership. Archer is decent in the air, and has pace too. Alabi scores a few goals, and could feed off him.
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Post by delamereal on Jul 22, 2020 17:53:24 GMT
I'd have Alabi back like a shot his goal record in that poor team was outstanding.
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Post by weareblues on Jul 22, 2020 18:14:23 GMT
No point talking about alabi he aint gonna come back here
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Post by ubb1689 on Jul 24, 2020 15:28:30 GMT
James Akintunde signs for Derry City. I might see him at the Brandywell when I go home.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Jul 24, 2020 19:22:13 GMT
Alabi may well not come back to us. Based on his form when he was with us previously he would surely be an asset in regional conference football
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Post by Anders on Jul 24, 2020 19:42:39 GMT
I'll be surprised if there will be any changes up front. If they all stay on we've got six who all offer something different.
Central defence and midfield + a keeper I think is where the additions will be.
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Post by sqzl on Jul 24, 2020 20:55:49 GMT
Yaya Toure is training with Orient, so if they don’t offer him a deal we might be in with a great chance. Although we’d have some moans as he is 37 now!!
On a more serious note, I’d love to see us sign one striker to add to the mix. Elliott looked good against Alty and proved in his loan spell he can score goals at this level. We don’t need to pay for players either, talk of a bid for Hulme would be stupid, seeing as JJ hasn’t done much for us yet and he was seen as their star player.
Priority for me would be a combative CM player and a younger CB. Both of them being under 23 with potential to use us as a stepping stone would be perfect, but I guess that’s what every club in the league will be looking for.
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Post by everhopeful on Jul 25, 2020 7:31:49 GMT
How long is it since we had a proper goalkeeper? That's GOT to be the first thing management sort out! Then put a decent defence in front of him.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 25, 2020 8:07:03 GMT
How long is it since we had a proper goalkeeper? That's GOT to be the first thing management sort out! Then put a decent defence in front of him. Said elsewhere our best keepers since reformation seem to have been the youngsters on loan from FL clubs. I wouldn’t mind us operating with season-long loans every year - look where Liam Roberts is now.
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Post by Si on Jul 25, 2020 8:27:46 GMT
I'll be surprised if there will be any changes up front. If they all stay on we've got six who all offer something different. Central defence and midfield + a keeper I think is where the additions will be. It's a tricky one, I like all our strikers but unfortunately I worry about their goalscoring pedigree. Elliot has a spree of goals on loan but is yet to convince me in blue and white, but he does deserve a run of games to prove his worth. Waring is important because of his obvious attributes, Matty Hughes works hard but as an out and out striker I'm not sure, and Duds is the frustrating one because he I feel like he should be getting 15 goals a season with his talent but there are some games where he is completely ineffective and you don't even notice him playing. If we're not replacing Asante's goals then we'll need goals from midfield so Jacko and JJ will have to step up.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Jul 25, 2020 16:11:34 GMT
How long is it since we had a proper goalkeeper? That's GOT to be the first thing management sort out! Then put a decent defence in front of him. Billy Stewart
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Jul 25, 2020 16:18:29 GMT
On the striker situation all offer something different . LMH could be interesting if he can stay fit from what I’ve seen of him . Ideally we need someone who will score 20 + goals . We done currently have that sort of player in house . Looking at the wider picture what’s clear is we are short of what’s required to go up. So recruitment will be interesting and very important. I notice that Alty have beaten York Fair play to them. From our perspective surely we would have Rather York went up than be competing with them again
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Post by devablue on Jul 25, 2020 17:34:25 GMT
On the striker situation all offer something different . LMH could be interesting if he can stay fit from what I’ve seen of him . Ideally we need someone who will score 20 + goals . We done currently have that sort of player in house . Looking at the wider picture what’s clear is we are short of what’s required to go up. So recruitment will be interesting and very important. I notice that Alty have beaten York Fair play to them. From our perspective surely we would have Rather York went up than be competing with them again This idea that you need a 20+ goals a season striker to get promoted thing gets bandied around a lot, but i'm not sure it's necessarily true (although i've not looked into it). E.g. if you're playing a 4-3-3 and the front 3 get 10+ goals but <20 goals between them, you're going to be in good stead for promotion (if not conceding as many) whilst also not relying heavily on 1 player. Obviously if the striker scores 20+ then that is a bonus, but not a necessity. Also, how do we know Waring and Elliott aren't 20+ goals a season strikers when they've mostly played second fiddle to Asante for 2/3rds+ of a season? I'm not completely disagreeing with you, just challenging that notion. If anyone can be bothered to look at the 2 promoted teams of say the previous 10 National North seasons and how many of these teams had 20+ goal a season strikers, that would be interesting and insightful.
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Post by Anders on Jul 25, 2020 18:08:23 GMT
On the striker situation all offer something different . LMH could be interesting if he can stay fit from what I’ve seen of him . Ideally we need someone who will score 20 + goals . We done currently have that sort of player in house . Looking at the wider picture what’s clear is we are short of what’s required to go up. So recruitment will be interesting and very important. I notice that Alty have beaten York Fair play to them. From our perspective surely we would have Rather York went up than be competing with them again This idea that you need a 20+ goals a season striker to get promoted thing gets bandied around a lot, but i'm not sure it's necessarily true (although i've not looked into it). E.g. if you're playing a 4-3-3 and the front 3 get 10+ goals but <20 goals between them, you're going to be in good stead for promotion (if not conceding as many) whilst also not relying heavily on 1 player. Obviously if the striker scores 20+ then that is a bonus, but not a necessity. Also, how do we know Waring and Elliott aren't 20+ goals a season strikers when they've mostly played second fiddle to Asante for 2/3rds+ of a season? I'm not completely disagreeing with you, just challenging that notion. If anyone can be bothered to look at the 2 promoted teams of say the previous 10 National North seasons and how many of these teams had 20+ goal a season strikers, that would be interesting and insightful. The year we won it Jarman top scored with 14. Five players got in to double figures and four got between 5-10.
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Post by Imperial on Jul 25, 2020 19:05:51 GMT
I think Alabi has had his best season. He was so lightweight & won nothing in the air. Archer definitely showed promise but was on a hiding to nothing coming into that team at that time, that said he hasn't really done well elsewhere since he left.Elliott hasn't had a run of games up front, he's generally been pushed out wide. I think his loan spell showed what he could be capable of. Alabi got a lot of criticism for that during his time here and I still think it was really unfair. He's 5'9 and people seem to be of the impression he was some sort of target man just because he was well built. I'd be delighted to have him back personally. But he would get muscled off the ball like a lad half his size. He wasn't particularly quick either. You only have to look at his goalscoring record to see that all things considered he's far from prolific. IMO he's not a very good striker who had an above average season by his standards while playing for us.
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