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Post by The Swansway on Jul 29, 2020 17:07:50 GMT
Bury apply for National League place - what do we think? www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53555576Its still the old owner and old debt etc. Nothing at all seems to have changed there since being expelled from the league. Meanwhile the fans have set up a so-called "phoenix" club which have been accepted to NWCL, but without being a true phoenix as Bury FC still exist, and its created a big fan split. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jul 29, 2020 17:24:25 GMT
When they say “National League” it appears they mean the system including National League North.
I bet South Shields will have something to say about it, and rightly so.
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Post by weareblues on Jul 29, 2020 17:25:42 GMT
Nothings gonna change he’s just tryna get every last penny he possibly can get out the club
Gonna end up like northwich this
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Post by waggoner on Jul 29, 2020 17:31:42 GMT
They are still in the ownership of Dale. They have not paid a single penny of the CVA they agreed. They cannot try the 'Coronavirus card' either, because this has been going on for 2 years now. Let's be honest, they have NO CHANCE of getting anywhere near the National league. Where is the money to prove they can fund it for a season?. This was the reason the EFL binned them in the 1st place.
TBH everyone is getting fed up of them moaning and whining. There is no way the NL would let a bankrupt club with a shyster running it, with no money and lots of unpaid debt anywhere near them. It would be like Chester City applying to join with Vaughan in charge!
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Post by weareblues on Jul 29, 2020 17:34:32 GMT
They are still in the ownership of Dale. They have not paid a single penny of the CVA they agreed. They cannot try the 'Coronavirus card' either, because this has been going on for 2 years now. Let's be honest, they have NO CHANCE of getting anywhere near the National league. Where is the money to prove they can fund it for a season?. This was the reason the EFL binned them in the 1st place. TBH everyone is getting fed up of them moaning and whining. There is no way the NL would let a bankrupt club with a shyster running it, with no money and lots of unpaid debt anywhere near them. It would be like Chester City applying to join with Vaughan in charge! This is the national league we’re talking about the most unprofessional organisation going it wouldn’t shock me |
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Post by The Swansway on Jul 29, 2020 17:35:36 GMT
Talking of Vaughan, there's a rumour Dales is going to pass ownership to his son, in an exact Chester City copy.
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Post by waggoner on Jul 29, 2020 17:48:57 GMT
Talking of Vaughan, there's a rumour Dales is going to pass ownership to his son, in an exact Chester City copy. You can imagine it. Sell it to 'his son' for £1. He will be running it in the background. Can anyone really believe Steve Dale is going to start being a 'good boy' and start paying his debts? He keeps a club going he keeps control of Gigg lane...which is what he is really after!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 12:42:53 GMT
Been rejected
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Post by weareblues on Aug 7, 2020 12:52:44 GMT
Rightfully so apparently they applied to go into the NLS😂 so clear dales intentions was to get the FA grants and most likely take loans out in the company’s name for his own private gain |
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Post by The Swansway on Aug 7, 2020 12:57:46 GMT
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Post by chesterken on Aug 7, 2020 13:26:20 GMT
Hopefully the fact that the Phoenix club will be hopefully playing and the blood sucking money grabbers team won’t will mean it sorts itself out as the season progresses .
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Post by The Swansway on Aug 7, 2020 13:41:23 GMT
Hopefully the fact that the Phoenix club will be hopefully playing and the blood sucking money grabbers team won’t will mean it sorts itself out as the season progresses . You'd hope so, but there seems a hardcore of people loyal to the original Bury FC who refuse to be involved in the new AFC, plus those who want to merge somehow. It will end up messy, and in tears. |
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Post by chesterken on Aug 7, 2020 14:16:09 GMT
Hopefully the fact that the Phoenix club will be hopefully playing and the blood sucking money grabbers team won’t will mean it sorts itself out as the season progresses . You'd hope so, but there seems a hardcore of people loyal to the original Bury FC who refuse to be involved in the new AFC, plus those who want to merge somehow. It will end up messy, and in tears. We had something similar back in the day but it sorted itself out once the old club folded. |
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Post by weareblues on Aug 7, 2020 14:16:31 GMT
Hopefully the fact that the Phoenix club will be hopefully playing and the blood sucking money grabbers team won’t will mean it sorts itself out as the season progresses . You'd hope so, but there seems a hardcore of people loyal to the original Bury FC who refuse to be involved in the new AFC, plus those who want to merge somehow. It will end up messy, and in tears. Same as what happened to northwich now 1874 have some weird hatred towards them very odd bunch |
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Post by Lobster on Aug 7, 2020 14:52:37 GMT
Yeah, as sad as it is, HMRC putting the boot into CCFC was an absolute blessing. The Northwich situation is the nightmare one, and the saddest thing about that is that Jim Rushe has gone now, so you've just got two entities of a previous small club kicking about, with probably too much bad blood between them to ever repair their differences. Plus the town already has another fairly big non-league club in Witton.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 15:33:06 GMT
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Post by avfo on Aug 7, 2020 16:51:00 GMT
Dale's less than eloquent response -
CLUB STATEMENT
Firstly, we apologise to our loyal Fans for not keeping you updated as we wanted, we were advised to not give the FA any reason to reject our application so we maintained silence.
Over 3 months ago, we submitted our application to the FA and furthermore our Lawyers requested a sit down to discuss the complexity of the Bury FC situation to avoid ambiguity and indeed lay to rest any concerns they may have. Some months later they acknowledged and with weeks to go till the deadline stated their willingness to have a conference call.
We had the call which was cordial, we requested a further meeting once matters had been digested and the committee advised they would come back to us, we heard nothing and our Lawyers prompted them as we were concerned having eroded 3 months to resolve any concerns, they were now eroding the last weeks which left no time to address very important matters that could affect our application.
On Tuesday we received an email outlining reasons not to allow our application, which turned out to be very matters we and our Lawyers had been trying to address with them for 3 months, none were an issue or a problem only time and the terms of their compliance were the governing factor.
In the future all these issues will be resolved and Bury FC will be back playing football at Gigg lane rest assured, our application for 21/22 season is being prepared now and will be chased monthly to avoid a repeat of this atrocity, lets hope because a further season has elapsed they don’t try to place us in tier 7, as leaving Division one we were supposed to get a high placing the following season as the demotion was the sentence
Also, to be clear about our Stadium, BURY FC own Gigg and it’s not for sale or is it being re-possessed.
Given Covid nothing is a given this season and Bury FC wants to wish all clubs well in these tying times, Football Clubs are the mainstay in many towns, they hopefully bring communities together and should be about the enjoyment of what happens on the pitch not the political subterfuge of the Governing bodies.
Clubs need support and help in these trying times, issuing point deductions like confetti, do they really believe that is the answer, there should be no rule books chiselled in stone in these testing times only survival tactics.
Many Clubs are on the brink of collapse and if Covid restrictions continue we will see a tsunami of Administrations and Receiverships, burying your head in the sand is not an option
Over the coming weeks we will advise of the goings on at Bury FC to secure its future.
Once again apologies for events but after 2O months of battling to save our Club we are more versed in the politics of Football than ever so better placed to face this war.
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Post by waggoner on Aug 7, 2020 17:14:57 GMT
When Vaughan was at CCFC it was obvious he was a crook, Gangster and thief. Dale on the other hand is a complete nut job. The NL stated that 'we would welcome an application for 2021/22 from Bury FC'' Dont actually say they would do anything about such 'application'
They/he have not paid a single penny off the CVA they agreed in 2019 to pay 25% of their debts....not a penny!!
He is holding out for a pay out on Gigg lane if they get liquidated, which is why i think HMRC refuse to apply for Liquidation
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Post by The Swansway on Aug 8, 2020 6:19:03 GMT
A truly bizarre ramble. Bury FC won't get anywhere until:
- Debts are paid
- Dale leaves
- Proof of funding for a season
They are nowhere near to any of the above, and never will be.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 8, 2020 8:20:09 GMT
Rightfully so apparently they applied to go into the NLS😂 so clear dales intentions was to get the FA grants and most likely take loans out in the company’s name for his own private gain NLS will mean “National League System” (the three divisions under the National League banner) as referred to in that article. |
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Post by waggoner on Aug 8, 2020 8:25:58 GMT
A truly bizarre ramble. Bury FC won't get anywhere until: - Debts are paid - Dale leaves - Proof of funding for a season They are nowhere near to any of the above, and never will be. The problem for Bury were; Dale could not prove he had the funds in place to ensure they could complete the season. Dale never did this. The EFL do not hand over the (around)800k central payment until funds are proven. Dale could not do this. He wanted the EFL to hand over the money and count that as proof of funding....this is not allowed because it is the RULES. Nobody else asked or gets their money up front so why should they make Bury an exception? Bury were already subject of a CVA at the time and had not paid anything off it whilst they were subject to suspension at the beginning of the season and Dale showed no sign of paying anything. In fact he was seeking a new CVA! The only thing i can think is that the EFL thought Dale was just going to trouser the 800k and Bury would fold during the season because of lack of funds (which would have happened) Remember what happened with Chester city? it causes chaos. The Ground Gigg lane has a stupid mortgage on it due to money borrow against it (money that vanished) If i remember rightly the interest is around £1,500 PER DAY! and the debt is around £4.5m The interest debt is going up because Dale defaulted on the CVA. Dale is a property developer and he is going nowhere whist he still has one hand on an asset like Gigg lane and the other hand on the 800k the league never handed over. I doubt that football will ever return to Gigg lane. Money is owed on it and the Council have it down as a Community asset and cannot be built on at the moment. Dale shows no sign of leaving without some sort of payment. He paid £1 for it but wants a pay out on the sale of the club. He wants to sell the debts to a new buyer he is just another Vaughan really. Taking all the above into account would the National League even consider having Bury anywhere near their league? The Evostik league won't either because i would imagine there will be a Bury afc in their league i 2 years anyway |
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Post by avfo on Aug 10, 2020 21:34:51 GMT
Statement from the Chairman
There seems to be a lot of lies and propaganda spread by a small body of people purporting to be BURY FC fans, they are not, they have undermined our Great Club and caused trouble at every juncture and in doing so have threatened the very existence of our Club, if challenged they shout louder thinking that makes wrong, right, it does not.
Social media has become a Petri dish for vermin, it is the antithesis of all that is decent where lies prevail
So, let’s start by addressing facts and perhaps not in event order the allegations:
1) I never wanted a Board position, I assumed Glen Thomas who introduced me to the Bury would be Chairman, the board felt due to his close association with Mr Day the fans would not like it, I initially refused but eventually agreed to take the post until we could get a football person
2) I stated day one at our dinner at the village, I invested in Bury, the running of the Club would be left to Directors and management as I was not a football person or in good enough health. I would do all I could to help with the catastrophic financial position of the club but I was not an ATM and I would not bankrupt myself to right the wrongs of the previous owners. I would hopefully find a younger buyer who loved football to take it on soon. I have been true to my word and still fighting to save Bury some 20 months on with no help from anyone and indeed it’s still my aim to sell it on the right person once she is stable
3) Buyers, there has not been one credible buyer, lots of talk, getting their name in the paper, one in particular met me once and somehow managed to get in every paper! MP’s getting their names in the paper, one alleged Buyer in particular went a bit further than most but then used the Stadium as the reason they did not proceed even though DAY 1 they were advised in detail of the position with it, or we have had the, you sort the CVA and you pay off your PG’s given against the Club, one even said get Bury back in the league and we will give you, ranging from £1 to £200k, so let’s get this right, I put a further c£1.5m in and you will give me such an incredible deal…really
4) As soon as we realized the extent of the financial wrong doings, I contacted the Chairman of the EFL who initially said he would help but advised he had his hands full with Blackpool and Bolton, he subsequently left the EFL, after his initial chat NEVER did the EFL contact me to offer support, offer help or got involved in any way, other than putting obstacles in our way at every juncture, withholding monies to further exasperate the situation, I could go on.
Given this we subsequently contacted the Police who to date have done nothing to bring the people who have STOLEN both prior and, on my shift, and indeed have been proven by the Police and the Club to have stolen from Bury to justice, one wonders why our Country is in such a mess
5) I HAVE NEVER been involved with the day to day running of the Club as I was unable to attend to achieve this due to health reasons, I helped when asked and as I could
6) To this day I HAVE NEVER had keys to Gigg Lane or Carrington
7) I HAVE NEVER been involved in the dealing with cash/gate monies or indeed any other form of receipt when the Club was running, in fact I don’t have a clue about gate receipts how they were collected or where they were processed, I left it to our very able Company Secretary who will I’m sure vouch for this.
8) I while we were running fully, WAS NEVER a signatory at the Bank and had nothing to do with Nat West or Lloyds, again our FD and Co Sec dealt with that, I am however the signatory of our new Bank
9)Bury Heritage and Social were formed to safeguard assets not miss-appropriate as anyone with a modicum of business knowledge would understand, given the perilous state of the Club
10) Stadium, we owe some £3.7m on that and some £2.8m on carpark so to the clowns who say I want it to build on it (regardless of the Council never allowing it or indeed would I want to) one wonders how a secondary site, where only standard housing would be appropriate could or would be worth £6.5m
11) Letting staff go, with a wage bill greater than income how would these bastions of knowledge propose we pay the £3.5m wage bill
12) EFL, cancelling of Games and subsequent removal from league, a lot of subterfuge was used in this, unfortunately the pending Legal action prevents me from expanding, but it will all come out in the wash.
13) A small bunch of Fans seem to need a scapegoat for Burys situation or indeed just to cause trouble, it seems its easier to blame me rather than the previous owners who caused it, where were these do good’s when the Club was being plundered for millions one asks and why do these self - proclaimed lovers of Bury do all they can to discredit it and tell lies on every forum they can trying to destroy the very thing they purport to love?
Forever Bury advise me they are taking stick from these very people for proposing to challenge the FA in their decision, once again hurting the very thing they say they love?
I have had Fans alleging they have threatened them privately and at there place of work for standing behind Bury FC?
One wonders what their agenda is, its certainly not the actions of Bury FC lovers.
14) If, instead of looking to blame for actions long since committed, by parties long since gone and indeed unchallenged at the time, the Fans would have shown solidarity instead of splitting into different factions, got the facts from the source and stood together in the fight, Bury FC would have been in a very different position today
There is a saying “empty cans make the most noise, in my world we throw them in the bin”
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Post by Lobster on Aug 10, 2020 21:54:21 GMT
Deranged nonsense. People who feel the need to capitalise random words for emphasis are always a bit potty, and usually aggressive egocentric bullies as well.
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Post by weareblues on Aug 10, 2020 21:58:04 GMT
Statement from the Chairman There seems to be a lot of lies and propaganda spread by a small body of people purporting to be BURY FC fans, they are not, they have undermined our Great Club and caused trouble at every juncture and in doing so have threatened the very existence of our Club, if challenged they shout louder thinking that makes wrong, right, it does not. Social media has become a Petri dish for vermin, it is the antithesis of all that is decent where lies prevail So, let’s start by addressing facts and perhaps not in event order the allegations: 1) I never wanted a Board position, I assumed Glen Thomas who introduced me to the Bury would be Chairman, the board felt due to his close association with Mr Day the fans would not like it, I initially refused but eventually agreed to take the post until we could get a football person 2) I stated day one at our dinner at the village, I invested in Bury, the running of the Club would be left to Directors and management as I was not a football person or in good enough health. I would do all I could to help with the catastrophic financial position of the club but I was not an ATM and I would not bankrupt myself to right the wrongs of the previous owners. I would hopefully find a younger buyer who loved football to take it on soon. I have been true to my word and still fighting to save Bury some 20 months on with no help from anyone and indeed it’s still my aim to sell it on the right person once she is stable 3) Buyers, there has not been one credible buyer, lots of talk, getting their name in the paper, one in particular met me once and somehow managed to get in every paper! MP’s getting their names in the paper, one alleged Buyer in particular went a bit further than most but then used the Stadium as the reason they did not proceed even though DAY 1 they were advised in detail of the position with it, or we have had the, you sort the CVA and you pay off your PG’s given against the Club, one even said get Bury back in the league and we will give you, ranging from £1 to £200k, so let’s get this right, I put a further c£1.5m in and you will give me such an incredible deal…really 4) As soon as we realized the extent of the financial wrong doings, I contacted the Chairman of the EFL who initially said he would help but advised he had his hands full with Blackpool and Bolton, he subsequently left the EFL, after his initial chat NEVER did the EFL contact me to offer support, offer help or got involved in any way, other than putting obstacles in our way at every juncture, withholding monies to further exasperate the situation, I could go on. Given this we subsequently contacted the Police who to date have done nothing to bring the people who have STOLEN both prior and, on my shift, and indeed have been proven by the Police and the Club to have stolen from Bury to justice, one wonders why our Country is in such a mess 5) I HAVE NEVER been involved with the day to day running of the Club as I was unable to attend to achieve this due to health reasons, I helped when asked and as I could 6) To this day I HAVE NEVER had keys to Gigg Lane or Carrington 7) I HAVE NEVER been involved in the dealing with cash/gate monies or indeed any other form of receipt when the Club was running, in fact I don’t have a clue about gate receipts how they were collected or where they were processed, I left it to our very able Company Secretary who will I’m sure vouch for this. 8) I while we were running fully, WAS NEVER a signatory at the Bank and had nothing to do with Nat West or Lloyds, again our FD and Co Sec dealt with that, I am however the signatory of our new Bank 9)Bury Heritage and Social were formed to safeguard assets not miss-appropriate as anyone with a modicum of business knowledge would understand, given the perilous state of the Club 10) Stadium, we owe some £3.7m on that and some £2.8m on carpark so to the clowns who say I want it to build on it (regardless of the Council never allowing it or indeed would I want to) one wonders how a secondary site, where only standard housing would be appropriate could or would be worth £6.5m 11) Letting staff go, with a wage bill greater than income how would these bastions of knowledge propose we pay the £3.5m wage bill 12) EFL, cancelling of Games and subsequent removal from league, a lot of subterfuge was used in this, unfortunately the pending Legal action prevents me from expanding, but it will all come out in the wash. 13) A small bunch of Fans seem to need a scapegoat for Burys situation or indeed just to cause trouble, it seems its easier to blame me rather than the previous owners who caused it, where were these do good’s when the Club was being plundered for millions one asks and why do these self - proclaimed lovers of Bury do all they can to discredit it and tell lies on every forum they can trying to destroy the very thing they purport to love? Forever Bury advise me they are taking stick from these very people for proposing to challenge the FA in their decision, once again hurting the very thing they say they love? I have had Fans alleging they have threatened them privately and at there place of work for standing behind Bury FC? One wonders what their agenda is, its certainly not the actions of Bury FC lovers. 14) If, instead of looking to blame for actions long since committed, by parties long since gone and indeed unchallenged at the time, the Fans would have shown solidarity instead of splitting into different factions, got the facts from the source and stood together in the fight, Bury FC would have been in a very different position today There is a saying “empty cans make the most noise, in my world we throw them in the bin” Christ he chats some waffle |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 22:14:39 GMT
Anyone who has not listened to this from 12 Months agi with Dale and Stephen Dawson then listen to this
Dale blaming everyone but himself and even tried to use Gill Neville as bait who quit as secretary later that day over his bs
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Post by Si on Aug 11, 2020 8:15:24 GMT
Statement from the Chairman There seems to be a lot of lies and propaganda spread by a small body of people purporting to be BURY FC fans, they are not, they have undermined our Great Club and caused trouble at every juncture and in doing so have threatened the very existence of our Club, if challenged they shout louder thinking that makes wrong, right, it does not. Social media has become a Petri dish for vermin, it is the antithesis of all that is decent where lies prevail So, let’s start by addressing facts and perhaps not in event order the allegations: 1) I never wanted a Board position, I assumed Glen Thomas who introduced me to the Bury would be Chairman, the board felt due to his close association with Mr Day the fans would not like it, I initially refused but eventually agreed to take the post until we could get a football person 2) I stated day one at our dinner at the village, I invested in Bury, the running of the Club would be left to Directors and management as I was not a football person or in good enough health. I would do all I could to help with the catastrophic financial position of the club but I was not an ATM and I would not bankrupt myself to right the wrongs of the previous owners. I would hopefully find a younger buyer who loved football to take it on soon. I have been true to my word and still fighting to save Bury some 20 months on with no help from anyone and indeed it’s still my aim to sell it on the right person once she is stable 3) Buyers, there has not been one credible buyer, lots of talk, getting their name in the paper, one in particular met me once and somehow managed to get in every paper! MP’s getting their names in the paper, one alleged Buyer in particular went a bit further than most but then used the Stadium as the reason they did not proceed even though DAY 1 they were advised in detail of the position with it, or we have had the, you sort the CVA and you pay off your PG’s given against the Club, one even said get Bury back in the league and we will give you, ranging from £1 to £200k, so let’s get this right, I put a further c£1.5m in and you will give me such an incredible deal…really 4) As soon as we realized the extent of the financial wrong doings, I contacted the Chairman of the EFL who initially said he would help but advised he had his hands full with Blackpool and Bolton, he subsequently left the EFL, after his initial chat NEVER did the EFL contact me to offer support, offer help or got involved in any way, other than putting obstacles in our way at every juncture, withholding monies to further exasperate the situation, I could go on. Given this we subsequently contacted the Police who to date have done nothing to bring the people who have STOLEN both prior and, on my shift, and indeed have been proven by the Police and the Club to have stolen from Bury to justice, one wonders why our Country is in such a mess 5) I HAVE NEVER been involved with the day to day running of the Club as I was unable to attend to achieve this due to health reasons, I helped when asked and as I could 6) To this day I HAVE NEVER had keys to Gigg Lane or Carrington 7) I HAVE NEVER been involved in the dealing with cash/gate monies or indeed any other form of receipt when the Club was running, in fact I don’t have a clue about gate receipts how they were collected or where they were processed, I left it to our very able Company Secretary who will I’m sure vouch for this. 8) I while we were running fully, WAS NEVER a signatory at the Bank and had nothing to do with Nat West or Lloyds, again our FD and Co Sec dealt with that, I am however the signatory of our new Bank 9)Bury Heritage and Social were formed to safeguard assets not miss-appropriate as anyone with a modicum of business knowledge would understand, given the perilous state of the Club 10) Stadium, we owe some £3.7m on that and some £2.8m on carpark so to the clowns who say I want it to build on it (regardless of the Council never allowing it or indeed would I want to) one wonders how a secondary site, where only standard housing would be appropriate could or would be worth £6.5m 11) Letting staff go, with a wage bill greater than income how would these bastions of knowledge propose we pay the £3.5m wage bill 12) EFL, cancelling of Games and subsequent removal from league, a lot of subterfuge was used in this, unfortunately the pending Legal action prevents me from expanding, but it will all come out in the wash. 13) A small bunch of Fans seem to need a scapegoat for Burys situation or indeed just to cause trouble, it seems its easier to blame me rather than the previous owners who caused it, where were these do good’s when the Club was being plundered for millions one asks and why do these self - proclaimed lovers of Bury do all they can to discredit it and tell lies on every forum they can trying to destroy the very thing they purport to love? Forever Bury advise me they are taking stick from these very people for proposing to challenge the FA in their decision, once again hurting the very thing they say they love? I have had Fans alleging they have threatened them privately and at there place of work for standing behind Bury FC? One wonders what their agenda is, its certainly not the actions of Bury FC lovers. 14) If, instead of looking to blame for actions long since committed, by parties long since gone and indeed unchallenged at the time, the Fans would have shown solidarity instead of splitting into different factions, got the facts from the source and stood together in the fight, Bury FC would have been in a very different position today There is a saying “empty cans make the most noise, in my world we throw them in the bin” Reading tripe like that makes you wonder how on earth the guy passed the fit and proper persons test. |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Aug 11, 2020 8:18:46 GMT
Anyone who has not listened to this from 12 Months agi with Dale and Stephen Dawson then listen to this Dale blaming everyone but himself and even tried to use Gill Neville as bait who quit as secretary later that day over his bs Well I hadn't heard that beforewhat a complete waffler that guy is. I cannot beleive some Bury supporters still believe in him |
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Post by avfo on Aug 27, 2020 17:07:27 GMT
Latest update/ramble including a critique of the BBC -
We are pleased to announce that due to new blood being introduced to Forever Bury one person in particular a successful businessman, a dialogue has commenced that should have started 20 months ago when Bury FC needed solidarity, I'm advised Forever Bury were duped by persons involved at the time which caused this and thankfully Forever Bury have seen this and these individuals have gone.
We are as eager as we were day one to foster a relationship now they have found their way, so we can work together to overcome whatever the EFL & FA do to us to prove our GREAT CLUB is here stay, remember there is “ONLY ONE BURY FOOTBALL CLUB”.
Joy Hart, your love of the Bury Football Club is welcomed and noted, however it would be nice not to be vilified yet again by you and our local newspaper and to be asked your questions rather than assuming “inaction”, a lot of people have put a lot of work into making Bury stronger than it’s ever been, but you won’t know this without interaction, I am hoping Forever Bury will fill that void subject to legal parameters.
I can only apologize to her and many other Loyal and decent fans for the medicine we had to administer to Bury FC to save her and indeed the silence due to legal constraints. What we didn’t factor in was the EFL and more recently the FA, I wrongly assumed they were there to help Clubs not despots, there actions and not just at Bury have done little to help football. I think events unfolding over the coming months will shed light on this clearly broken model, it’s a great institution that needs an overhaul, new people with business acumen, just one look at the EFL’s last 2 years accounts show this is needed and where a sense of fair play prevails, where an understanding of individual situations take precedent over a rigid (a rigidity chosen at will I might add) rule book to oppress which has no place in a fair and decent democracy. Where the actions of these few destroy the many, both financially and morally.
I will concede that in certain circumstances very recently some of these rules have acted in the best interest of Clubs, however that’s where business acumen, an understanding of individual circumstances and decency come into play not blanket oppression.
Once our CVA is completed and settlement of Mr. Days loan on our stadium which have all been extremely complex, we can start in earnest to build our great Club back up again but on footings of concrete not sinking sand to ensure longevity.
We are in talks with potentially new Senior Staff with many years of involvement in the game at the highest level of football to help in our quest, many players have expressed a desire to play and help BURY FC be great again, however until the effects of Covid are sure none of us can be certain of the future and we are deciding if it would be financially prudent not to appeal the FA’s decision however wrong it was, to then not be able to play due to Covid.
We feel the course of action is to complete the financial tasks above, get a renovation programme started at the Club and lower Gigg, then start to build on our team and youth, refurbish our Social Club to be open Pub hours and then apply for 21/22 season when we are even stronger.
Given the above we also want to propose monthly friendlies and legend games as permitted in 20/21 even with social distancing our great Stadium can accommodate our Loyal fans so they can see our team building and getting ready for a Covid free 21/22
Going Forward
To our Council, who have expressed so many times their desire to help the institution in their town known as BURY FOOTBALL CLUB were still here and we welcome any help you can give.
To GMP, we came to you as £60000 was stolen from our club through fraud, we found the perpetrator’s, gave you irrevocable proof of the crime and you have done little in these many months to bring the individuals to justice, even though the monies were traced to their bank accounts. You have now stated you are taking this no further whilst conceding the crime had took place, using CPS as the get out and stating the following and I quote “As Bury FC was already in considerable financial difficulty it is not likely that recovery of the money would assist the club in any way or rectify the situation” not a lot I can say to that!
Is it any wonder the saying “CRIME PAYS” when that’s the Police stance, so if you get robbed and your struggling financially don’t phone the police as you’re in the Sh.. anyway, so it’s pointless it won’t help you recovering your monies or goods
I can assure you as funds permit our Lawyers will pursue these monies and Individuals through the Courts.
To the Press who so openly voiced outrage at BURY FC’s plight but did nothing to help, settling for sensational journalism and biased views from anyone however loosely linked to Bury to sell copy, BURY FC is still here and needs your support from its former plight to regain its rightful place in English Football lets forget the past and help Bury get back.
Finally, In a Total Unrelated Matter
To the BBC
Our Country has its pride deeply rooted from our endeavors in the war and the tenacity and the spirit of the British people, the BBC in its day helped in this keeping moral high when rationing was in place, family’s suffering unimageable pain and spirits were low.
Licence Fees
You now think it prudent to persecute the elderly many who were either in these wars fighting for our great country or have lost loved ones, many being financially challenged, at great risk of COVID and even more so as winter comes, so your thank you to them is make them pay for a License fee, why so the directors can get a pay rise related to profits garnered by screwing the elderly, or for your new executive car, IT IS TRULY DISGUSTING THAT NOT ONLY HAVE THE BBC DONE IT BUT THE GOVERNMENT ALLOWED IT
Proms
If the above was not enough, the Suits that wander the corridors of power at the BBC decide that one of our greatest events, which when watching makes you proud to be British of what we were but certainly not at what were at risk of becoming. It would now seem they have determined we can no longer sing rousing songs that bound our once GREAT COUNTRY together, again it seems the moral compass of the few control the many.ITS WRONG
What’s left to sanction, Hymns or the Bible
Every Country has a past, you can’t eradicate it you have to learn by it.
“IT IS SAD THAT TO BE A GOOD PATRIOT ONE MUST OFTEN BE THE ENEMY OF OTHER PEOPLES”
Voltaire
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Aug 27, 2020 17:12:22 GMT
The fragile snowflake right wing.
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