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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 26, 2020 11:36:38 GMT
This tweet from Ollie Bayliss looks like good news at least in terms of club finances.
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Post by avfo on Sept 26, 2020 21:57:35 GMT
This tweet from Ollie Bayliss looks like good news at least in terms of club finances. This statement from the NL seems to imply that certain clubs were opposed to any 'external support' for the NL, if so, can only surmise that they believed that the lack of funding for others could boost their chances of promotion. - ”Until the Government announced its review of the safe return of spectators, the League was fully geared up to commence the season with clubs applying new socially-distanced stadium capacities and putting in place Covid-secure measures to ensure crowd safety. “This week, three of our Clubs successfully held test events with up to 1,000 fans, and we hope that the diligent preparations made by all clubs to enable the return of fans may still be implemented in due course when permitted to do so. “The League must now abide by the Government’s decision to exclude fans, and therefore, matches will be played “behind closed doors”, i.e. without supporters admitted, in accordance with Government policy and Stage 3 of the elite sport protocols until further notice. “Looking forward, the Board’s objectives are to ensure that all clubs can commence their fixtures programme, and all clubs are able to meet their obligations over the course of the season. Moving forward with only a subset of clubs involved would not be acceptable.
“Hence, the League’s appeal to Government with the assistance of The Football Association for each club to receive compensation for lost net gate revenue each month for the period that clubs are prevented from admitting supporters. “ The Board is aware that whilst some clubs may want to commence the season without external support, the vast majority of clubs require financial help to be able to sustain their participation over the coming months without crowds.
“The League is aiming to receive confirmation of the Government’s support in advance of the season commencing next weekend. Should this not occur, the Board will review and reconsider its stance, and as ever, the Board will ensure the position and views of member clubs are central to any decision made.”
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Post by scotty on Sept 27, 2020 0:51:06 GMT
There will be many demands for government support from many industries. I can't see how 6th tier football can be a priority in the greater scheme of things. Though I hope that something emerges, the club has to formulate a plan to shut everything down (and by this I mean put a padlock on the stadium and lay off everyone, and I mean everyone) and a plan to restart for next season. Not easy, and some very tough decisions may be necessary, but they must make a plan. I hope that this plan would not need to be activated of course, but the club must be ready for all scenarios.
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Post by lincolnexile on Sept 27, 2020 10:34:40 GMT
So the EFL clubs have asked for a £250m bail out from the Premier League and the National League has asked for €25m from the government.
The Premier League has said that any funding should be based on average attendances, so Sunderland should get a much bigger handout than Fleetwood, even though they’re in the same division.
How do we think the government handout of £25m will be handed out to National League clubs, if it actually materializes? Will the government insist that its distributed based on average attendance, which would result in us getting a larger slice of the cake than at least 10 of the teams from the division above, or will they leave it to the National League to decide.
Let’s face it if it’s the latter then they’ll probably put it to a vote, giving National League clubs one vote each and North and South clubs 1 vote per 10 clubs. This vote will probably result in each National League club getting £1m and the remaining £1m being shared out between the North and South divisions.
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 27, 2020 10:58:11 GMT
It should be based on attendance - that should be whole point of rewarding the clubs who aren’t spending beyond their means - i.e. acting sustainably?
On a side note to this support package - any club who have voted for the season to begin in its current position should not see a penny of this support. There’s clearly no issue for them, so I don’t want to see a U-turn at the chance of a handout.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 11:19:00 GMT
Given that after last nights announcenent re: further covid restrictions and the statement that spectator sports will not now resume, in October.: where does that leave us and other Conference North clubs? All lower league clubs rely on attendances to survive, unlike he elite clubs who can rely on broadcasting revenue. Should the season be postponed or suspended or should streaming platforms and pay per view be developed? What are your views?! It’s a complete balls up as expected. Personal opinion, like many others, is that the season should go ahead with limited capacity. 33% etc etc. There’s no difference in this compared to a busy Cheshire Oaks for example. I wouldn’t be starting the season with no fans - regardless of care package, most clubs would go under !
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 27, 2020 11:26:22 GMT
It should be based on attendance - that should be whole point of rewarding the clubs who aren’t spending beyond their means - i.e. acting sustainably? On a side note to this support package - any club who have voted for the season to begin in its current position should not see a penny of this support. There’s clearly no issue for them, so I don’t want to see a U-turn at the chance of a handout. Agreed. The whole furlough or keeping businesses going idea is that you get a percentage of what you normally get. We should get more than Boreham Wood and Curzon Ashton, but less than Notts Co. Regardless of which League we are in.
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Post by Jack on Sept 27, 2020 12:07:53 GMT
It should be based on attendance - that should be whole point of rewarding the clubs who aren’t spending beyond their means - i.e. acting sustainably?On a side note to this support package - any club who have voted for the season to begin in its current position should not see a penny of this support. There’s clearly no issue for them, so I don’t want to see a U-turn at the chance of a handout. Definitely. To do anything else would be basically saying that financial fair play doesn't count for anything. The money we're losing is approximately 1800-2000 fans per game, there's no way that Leamington can be given the same amount of backing.
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Post by eddieshead on Sept 27, 2020 12:57:29 GMT
This should not be about money just keeping people healthy and curtailing this alfalfa virus so I'm sorry to say no football till we are confident covid is defeated then players ,officals and supporters can all go to matches safely
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 13:40:18 GMT
This should not be about money just keeping people healthy and curtailing this alfalfa virus so I'm sorry to say no football till we are confident covid is defeated then players ,officals and supporters can all go to matches safely When will you be confident covid is defeated? When there's absolutely zero cases? If that's the end game, generally, then we're going to be in this situation for a very very long time. Covid is here to stay, learn to live with it From a Chester point of view we need fans through the turnstiles as soon as possible, people have paid for season tickets, even if it is a smaller number to start with. Anyone who has been to a game in the last month will tell you its absolutely safe to do so, and there's no reason we can't open our gates.
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Post by Lobster on Sept 27, 2020 14:04:39 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54315814Again, I'm hearing nothing about our level. I'm beginning to think Oliver Dowden doesn't realise there's a level between the EFL and "grass roots" that is currently in a total limbo.
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Post by classycas on Sept 27, 2020 14:56:03 GMT
While every fan of a NLN club would love the season to start on 3 October, if it does get underway (with or without fans) there will be significant interruptions to fixtures and a very real probability that it will not run its course.
Therefore, I think the CFU board is being extremely prudent in not sanctioning the signing of new players and CFC fans should reluctantly accept we will not have football as we know it until a COVID-19 vaccine is both developed and made widely available.
If anyone knows when that will be, please also reveal your National Lottery numbers.
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Post by muffinthemule on Sept 27, 2020 15:09:34 GMT
It should be based on attendance - that should be whole point of rewarding the clubs who aren’t spending beyond their means - i.e. acting sustainably?On a side note to this support package - any club who have voted for the season to begin in its current position should not see a penny of this support. There’s clearly no issue for them, so I don’t want to see a U-turn at the chance of a handout. Definitely. To do anything else would be basically saying that financial fair play doesn't count for anything. The money we're losing is approximately 1800-2000 fans per game, there's no way that Leamington can be given the same amount of backing.
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Post by muffinthemule on Sept 27, 2020 15:11:35 GMT
Would think "compensation" would be 1800 - 2000 minus season ticket holders who have already paid
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Post by eddieshead on Sept 27, 2020 16:12:15 GMT
So would it of been safe for Spurs to play Orient last week
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Post by chesterblueboy on Sept 27, 2020 17:43:11 GMT
I thought the reason that they didn’t play was because testing is not compulsory in the lower divisions of the EFL, so Spurs paid for testing before they played them and several Orient players tested positive, causing the postponement of the match
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Post by eddieshead on Sept 27, 2020 18:02:47 GMT
So are all fans get tested before a match and if positive can you guarantee they will stay away
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Post by exiled on Sept 27, 2020 18:16:25 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54315814Again, I'm hearing nothing about our level. I'm beginning to think Oliver Dowden doesn't realise there's a level between the EFL and "grass roots" that is currently in a total limbo. It's starting to get worrying. The National league is starting to look like the forgotten league.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 27, 2020 21:18:34 GMT
Would think "compensation" would be 1800 - 2000 minus season ticket holders who have already paid Why minus season ticket holders? They can't get in either. They should be refunded their money. Or have it rolled over to 21/22 season. Assuming there is one. It should be the average attendance income for games from last season.
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 27, 2020 21:22:25 GMT
So are all fans get tested before a match and if positive can you guarantee they will stay away People are still allowed to go into pubs, restaurants, Cheshire Oaks etc etc. I'd feel safer in a football ground with a limited socially distanced crowd, than sat in a city centre pub at 9:30 at night.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Sept 28, 2020 12:09:42 GMT
No mention yet of whether Saturdays game is going ahead, if we have any tickets for sale etc.
To be fair to the National League, they are marginally behind this government in their lack of ability to locate their own backsides with their own hands.
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Post by cfc1885 on Sept 28, 2020 13:03:05 GMT
No mention yet of whether Saturdays game is going ahead, if we have any tickets for sale etc. To be fair to the National League, they are marginally behind this government in their lack of ability to locate their own backsides with their own hands. The national league have been a disgrace all throughout this The communication and professionalism is absolutely dire
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Post by avfo on Sept 28, 2020 17:38:47 GMT
According to one of Gloucester's owners thy have been asked to produce details of income/expenditure for the last three years. He believes any compensation will be a % based on those amounts. Interview with Anthony Johnson - “Thankfully the supporters, the owners, stood up, put their hands in the pockets, despite them going through horrific times themselves, have kept the club going and given us a chance to at least compete next season and have a team we can put out there. As managers and players that is not lost on us. We are absolutely desperate to get out on the pitch and repay that faith they have shown in the football club and its team.” www.cheshire-live.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chester-fc-boss-turmoil-national-19011146
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Post by dmcnally on Sept 29, 2020 13:49:48 GMT
Jonno gets it. 👏
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Post by Harry Lime on Sept 29, 2020 16:15:05 GMT
Question.
As 'owners', aren't we allowed in to watch our club?
You see Fergie, Dagleish, the CEO of Villa, Sullivan, Gold and Brady at West Ham, all at the games. Why can't I go as an owner?
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Sept 29, 2020 16:30:57 GMT
Question. As 'owners', aren't we allowed in to watch our club? You see Fergie, Dagleish, the CEO of Villa, Sullivan, Gold and Brady at West Ham, all at the games. Why can't I go as an owner? If you were a director (on the board - stand for election at the next AGM) you would have to be available to attend away matches to represent the club in an official capacity on a rota basis.
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Post by avfo on Sept 29, 2020 19:49:07 GMT
According to a couple of sources the NL and the government are close to agreeing a financial package for NL clubs. A figure of £20 million in the form of a grant, has been reported in the Telegraph. The National League board are set to meet tomorrow.
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Post by prodigal on Sept 29, 2020 23:30:55 GMT
Strange to think that if the league give the nod to go ahead without fans, we will have played our first league match by this time next week!
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Post by Lobster on Sept 30, 2020 8:00:00 GMT
My least favourite Harry Potter book One of Bowie's less remembered alter egos.
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Post by Churton Blue on Sept 30, 2020 8:19:12 GMT
Tweet from Ollie Bayliss
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