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Post by agl on Oct 3, 2020 21:09:19 GMT
Incidentally, does anyone know the actual sell on percentage etc. Usually 20 per cent
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 19:01:38 GMT
How did you work that one out? League officials have confirmed they will not postpone the game; Juventus tweeted their intentions to enter the field and kick off. Looks like that is the outcome
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 4, 2020 19:10:58 GMT
Indeed, Juve took to the field to kick off against nobody and claim a 3-0 forfeit win because Napoli’s team were restricted from leaving Naples due to local lockdown and league officials refused their request to rearrange the fixture.
Shame on Juve, is this football under Covid now?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Oct 4, 2020 19:15:05 GMT
Indeed, Juve took to the field to kick off against nobody and claim a 3-0 forfeit win because Napoli’s team were restricted from leaving Naples due to local lockdown. Shame on Juve, is this football under Covid now? Serie A officials seem to be as inept as the FA thats a disgrace
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Post by Lobster on Oct 4, 2020 20:25:19 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games?
People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch.
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Post by gezzer on Oct 4, 2020 20:41:56 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. Boris Johnson contacts Man Utd and congratulates them on keeping to the rules and only letting in 6. Liverpool issued with a £10,000 fine for letting in a 7th.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 4, 2020 20:44:04 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. Lack of pre-season so probably fitness issues plus still getting used to shape, tactics etc.
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Post by rcb on Oct 4, 2020 21:03:30 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. 2-3-5 the way forward! 😀
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Post by sealandender1 on Oct 4, 2020 21:23:28 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. 2-3-5 the way forward! 😀 Wing halves and inside forwards, none of this false nine and in the hole malarkey 🤓
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Post by saltneykebabden on Oct 4, 2020 23:27:30 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. Completely agree. I’m bored of watching every team attempt to play out from the back thinking they are being clever, when really they tend to just invite unnecessary pressure and mess it up. In the United game earlier, the centre half played the ball into a holding midfielder being marked by two men, instead of clearing the ball resulting in a goal. Know what I mean bro?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Oct 5, 2020 7:52:09 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. 2-3-5 the way forward! 😀 Humes Metcalf Talbot Ryden Morris Oh yes please
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Post by Lobster on Oct 5, 2020 9:49:45 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. Completely agree. I’m bored of watching every team attempt to play out from the back thinking they are being clever, when really they tend to just invite unnecessary pressure and mess it up. In the United game earlier, the centre half played the ball into a holding midfielder being marked by two men, instead of clearing the ball resulting in a goal. Know what I mean bro? It's not a popular opinion but I actually think the standard of football at the moment is very poor from the top down. The number of goals in the Prem has gone up massively in recent years, which some will argue means it's more attacking and strikers are getting better, but to me it suggests there's an element of pub football going on. More goals generally means a lower standard.
Look at Pogba, supposedly one of the best players in the world - no football brain whatsoever, as he showed with that ridiculous tackle in the penalty area yesterday. The likes of him and Neymar would've been laughed at in the 80s and 90s.
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 5, 2020 10:34:40 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. You're not wrong. All managers are scared stiff not to play out from the back, in case they are labelled dinosaurs. Problem is, teams are sussing out how to combat it. Suspect things will change soon as coaches and analysts adapt. If Premier League teams are struggling to play this way on fantastic pitches, it makes you wonder why lower and non league teams try it on poor pitches. Asking for trouble. Guardiola signs centre halves who are comfortable on the ball, because they have 75% possession. Issue is when they have to defend. Everyone else is copying. The footie isn't more exciting, is just poorer play with more goals. Doesn't mean it's better.
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Post by rcb on Oct 5, 2020 19:13:00 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. You're not wrong. All managers are scared stiff not to play out from the back, in case they are labelled dinosaurs. Problem is, teams are sussing out how to combat it. Suspect things will change soon as coaches and analysts adapt. If Premier League teams are struggling to play this way on fantastic pitches, it makes you wonder why lower and non league teams try it on poor pitches. Asking for trouble. Guardiola signs centre halves who are comfortable on the ball, because they have 75% possession. Issue is when they have to defend. Everyone else is copying. The footie isn't more exciting, is just poorer play with more goals. Doesn't mean it's better. Guardiola is a fashion accessory, and acts like the Paris Hilton of football. Loves to spend other people’s money and prone to sulking if he doesn’t spend more than his classmates! He lives a charmed life and relies on great inheritance in order to be successful. Look at his record at Barcelona, Bayern, and Manchester City, to see how dependent he has been in inheriting quality from his predecessors. He hasn’t bought much more than a handful of decent players in his entire career. Kevin De Bruyne a current example, and of course Vincent Kompany, both inherited and he has totally failed to replace Kompany. He wouldn’t have a clue if he came to Chester!
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Post by agl on Oct 5, 2020 20:42:33 GMT
I don't know whether it's due to Covid or what, but what is going on with some of these Premier League games? People might say it's entertaining, but to me it just seems like pub football. Millionaires playing like schoolkids. And I'm not convinced this "playing it out from the back" stuff actually works any better than a good old hoof down the pitch. You're not wrong. All managers are scared stiff not to play out from the back, in case they are labelled dinosaurs. Problem is, teams are sussing out how to combat it. Suspect things will change soon as coaches and analysts adapt. If Premier League teams are struggling to play this way on fantastic pitches, it makes you wonder why lower and non league teams try it on poor pitches. Asking for trouble. Guardiola signs centre halves who are comfortable on the ball, because they have 75% possession. Issue is when they have to defend. Everyone else is copying. The footie isn't more exciting, is just poorer play with more goals. Doesn't mean it's better. imo the problem stems from the keepers. Liverpool's woes were down to Allison being injured and trying to play the same style with an inferior (re passing) keeper.
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Post by scotty on Oct 5, 2020 22:56:51 GMT
Every measure has a countermeasure. Every time someone thinks they've got it sussed, they're wrong. Whether it's flat back four, overlapping wingbacks, 'total football', tika taka, zonal marking, long throws, possession football, the high press, hoofing it to 6 foot 6 strikers....whatever it is, it may be successful for a time, and people think that they've finally cracked it. But they're wrong. Someone finds flaws and exploits it.
I don't think that there is a silver bullet.
I'm interested to see if Guadiola can adapt.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 6, 2020 11:34:38 GMT
Writing in the Sunday Times, Crystal Palace chairman Steve Parish said: "Our game against Chelsea was shown in Vue cinemas, to audiences packed indoors, while once again there were no spectators in the stands. This makes little sense."
Meanwhile, Premier League clubs spent an eye watering £1.218bn in transfer fees this window, on a handful of over inflated players, and their representatives have the brass neck to talk about clubs struggling without fans in attendance. We all know it’s only about the image of full stadiums to TV viewers.
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Post by muffinthemule on Oct 6, 2020 15:03:47 GMT
£1.28bn and nearly every penny going out of the English game to teams abroad for mediocre foreign players. Quibbling about paying the EFL £250m and expecting the government to bail them out cos they're losing money with no crowds. Surely they've got to be joking
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Post by avfo on Oct 6, 2020 22:09:35 GMT
Statement from BPA ( the 'other clubs' are Gateshead and Spennymoor) -
'After taking a Covid test, one of the first team squad has seen the results come back positive.
After consultation with the clubs medical officer and also the National League, we have been instructed to isolate the squad with immediate effect in line with current government protocols and guidance. The players have been instructed to remain in isolation for a period of 2 weeks. In line with advice, the other clubs that may be affected, have been notified and the clubs Covid officer is following our protocols and notifying the government track and trace agency.
Sadly this means that our next game with Hereford has been postponed and we are awaiting the National League’s details for it’s rearrangement.'
Our hope is that the player doesn’t have any complications and the rest of the squad remain healthy.
As we have further news we will keep you updated.'
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Post by lincolnexile on Oct 7, 2020 5:52:37 GMT
Statement from BPA ( the 'other clubs' are Gateshead and Spennymoor) - 'After taking a Covid test, one of the first team squad has seen the results come back positive. After consultation with the clubs medical officer and also the National League, we have been instructed to isolate the squad with immediate effect in line with current government protocols and guidance. The players have been instructed to remain in isolation for a period of 2 weeks. In line with advice, the other clubs that may be affected, have been notified and the clubs Covid officer is following our protocols and notifying the government track and trace agency. Sadly this means that our next game with Hereford has been postponed and we are awaiting the National League’s details for it’s rearrangement.' Our hope is that the player doesn’t have any complications and the rest of the squad remain healthy. As we have further news we will keep you updated.' So what happens now then? Do Gateshead and Spennymoor players have to go into isolation for 2 weeks now? If that’s the case then we can’t play our FA Cup game next week so is it postponed or do Spennymoor have to forfeit the game?
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Post by Wortleyblue on Oct 7, 2020 6:40:07 GMT
Statement from BPA ( the 'other clubs' are Gateshead and Spennymoor) - 'After taking a Covid test, one of the first team squad has seen the results come back positive. After consultation with the clubs medical officer and also the National League, we have been instructed to isolate the squad with immediate effect in line with current government protocols and guidance. The players have been instructed to remain in isolation for a period of 2 weeks. In line with advice, the other clubs that may be affected, have been notified and the clubs Covid officer is following our protocols and notifying the government track and trace agency. Sadly this means that our next game with Hereford has been postponed and we are awaiting the National League’s details for it’s rearrangement.' Our hope is that the player doesn’t have any complications and the rest of the squad remain healthy. As we have further news we will keep you updated.' So what happens now then? Do Gateshead and Spennymoor players have to go into isolation for 2 weeks now? If that’s the case then we can’t play our FA Cup game next week so is it postponed or do Spennymoor have to forfeit the game? In previous rounds the team who have to cancel through covid have had to forfiet the game
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 7, 2020 7:13:02 GMT
So what happens now then? Do Gateshead and Spennymoor players have to go into isolation for 2 weeks now? If that’s the case then we can’t play our FA Cup game next week so is it postponed or do Spennymoor have to forfeit the game? In previous rounds the team who have to cancel through covid have had to forfiet the game That isn’t Spennymoor’s fault though. The whole punishment for being ill with a pandemic virus is a joke.
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Post by Wortleyblue on Oct 7, 2020 7:55:31 GMT
In previous rounds the team who have to cancel through covid have had to forfiet the game That isn’t Spennymoor’s fault though. The whole punishment for being ill with a pandemic virus is a joke. I totally agree FOP but thats the FA for you I bet the rule changes once premiershite teams enter the fray can you imagine Man Utd having to forfiet to us because a player has covid
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Oct 7, 2020 8:14:02 GMT
That isn’t Spennymoor’s fault though. The whole punishment for being ill with a pandemic virus is a joke. I totally agree FOP but thats the FA for you I bet the rule changes once premiershite teams enter the fray can you imagine Man Utd having to forfiet to us because a player has covid Wouldn’t happen though - seems to me the rules aren’t the same for everyone, as there’s been a few sides where players have tested positive and the whole team haven’t had to islotate, just the players that are positive. Liverpool for example had 3 positive tests within the last 2 weeks and the whole squad didn’t have to isolate. Happened to Norwich in the championship as well and there have been many others.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 7, 2020 8:19:25 GMT
I suppose their logic is that you wouldn't cancel a fixture because a team had a long injury list. You'd still expect them to field a team.
Having said that, a little common sense for this unprecedented situation wouldn't go amiss. For a start, pulled hamstrings aren't contagious!
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Post by lincolnexile on Oct 7, 2020 10:10:54 GMT
That isn’t Spennymoor’s fault though. The whole punishment for being ill with a pandemic virus is a joke. I totally agree FOP but thats the FA for you I bet the rule changes once premiershite teams enter the fray can you imagine Man Utd having to forfiet to us because a player has covid The thing is, like you say, the rules will change when the Premiership clubs get involved. Look at what happened regarding the Orient v Spurs game in the EFL cup. If the boot had been on the other foot and Spurs players had been tested positive do you think they’d have put Orient through or would they have found another solution?
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 7, 2020 10:16:53 GMT
Problem is, the fa could have a situation where loads of games can't be played, and there's a fixture pile up. You can't delay everything 14 days every time a player tests positive. You'd never finish.
We could win the fa cup without playing another match. 😂 Or get knocked out without playing one.
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Oct 7, 2020 10:17:30 GMT
I totally agree FOP but thats the FA for you I bet the rule changes once premiershite teams enter the fray can you imagine Man Utd having to forfiet to us because a player has covid The thing is, like you say, the rules will change when the Premiership clubs get involved. Look at what happened regarding the Orient v Spurs game in the EFL cup. If the boot had been on the other foot and Spurs players had been tested positive do you think they’d have put Orient through or would they have found another solution? They'd have put Orient through as the next round was the following week, which is why Spurs were awarded the tie.
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Post by The Angry Agenda on Oct 7, 2020 11:00:51 GMT
Problem is, the fa could have a situation where loads of games can't be played, and there's a fixture pile up. You can't delay everything 14 days every time a player tests positive. You'd never finish.We could win the fa cup without playing another match. 😂 Or get knocked out without playing one. I see Sale Sharks have had to forefit a game in Rugby Unions premiership because of a covid outbreak, which means that Sale will now miss out on the play-offs as a result.
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Post by devadiva on Oct 7, 2020 14:28:17 GMT
Problem is, the fa could have a situation where loads of games can't be played, and there's a fixture pile up. You can't delay everything 14 days every time a player tests positive. You'd never finish. We could win the fa cup without playing another match. 😂 Or get knocked out without playing one. Equally, if this continues you can see the league being decided on PPG again but the problem is that over a whole season, there’s a good chance of a much greater divergence of games played by teams, meaning a greater risk of anomalous results. Crazy times.
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