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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 19:25:16 GMT
Colchester v MARINE
Awful draw
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 19:32:10 GMT
At least we still would have been in it After Saturdays performance, any tie would've done for me.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 26, 2020 19:32:29 GMT
Remember the time we won a First Round tie at Layer Road? Chris Tate’s late acrobatic heroics.
I got on the pitch at half time that day. Great day.
Then we got done over by Marriner at Morecambe.
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Post by chesterken on Oct 26, 2020 19:33:14 GMT
Colchester v MARINE Awful draw Feel sorry for Marine but glad in a way they didn’t get a big team at home or it would have kicked off on the forum again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 19:33:18 GMT
Cummings, the Marine captain said they got fortunate with the penalty they received and we should’ve had one late on too
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Post by Wortleyblue on Oct 26, 2020 19:39:02 GMT
Harrogate Town v Skelmersdale United has TV written all over it
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 26, 2020 19:46:00 GMT
Harrogate Town v Skelmersdale United has TV written all over it Does it? I’d say only Wigan v Chorley stands out from an otherwise shit draw. Local derby, David v Goliath, former Cup winners in recent years versus a side playing in Evostik less than a decade ago who got a Covid bye into the first round. The rest of the draw is awful.
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Post by cameandabel on Oct 26, 2020 19:52:13 GMT
Rightly or wrongly, the emphasis when it comes to TV picks in the first round is nearly always non-league at home to EFL opposition. I think both Skem and Marine’s ties have zero chance of being shown live on either the BBC or BT Sport. The best either can probably hope for is to be one of the games picked for the BBC’s Sunday afternoon Final Score show, which we made a few thousand pounds from for Barnsley away IIRC.
Ties such as FCUM v Doncaster and Eastbourne v Blackpool are probably the most likely to be shown live.
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Post by agl on Oct 26, 2020 20:01:38 GMT
Rightly or wrongly, the emphasis when it comes to TV picks in the first round is nearly always non-league at home to EFL opposition. I think both Skem and Marine’s ties have zero chance of being shown live on either the BBC or BT Sport. The best either can probably hope for is to be one of the games picked for the BBC’s Sunday afternoon Final Score show, which we made a few thousand pounds from for Barnsley away IIRC. Ties such as FCUM v Doncaster and Eastbourne v Blackpool are probably the most likely to be shown live. My money's on Eastbourne vs Blackpool. Former cup winners, battle of the north vs south seaside resorts. Although knowing tv they will go for FCUM because it's the nearest they can get to showing the original United before the third round.
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 26, 2020 20:12:24 GMT
Rightly or wrongly, the emphasis when it comes to TV picks in the first round is nearly always non-league at home to EFL opposition. I think both Skem and Marine’s ties have zero chance of being shown live on either the BBC or BT Sport. The best either can probably hope for is to be one of the games picked for the BBC’s Sunday afternoon Final Score show, which we made a few thousand pounds from for Barnsley away IIRC. Ties such as FCUM v Doncaster and Eastbourne v Blackpool are probably the most likely to be shown live. My money's on Eastbourne vs Blackpool. Former cup winners, battle of the north vs south seaside resorts. Although knowing tv they will go for FCUM because it's the nearest they can get to showing the original United before the third round. They usually pick the lowest ranked team at home to a league team. Either of the games you mention are candidates. Although FCUM maybe favourites as BBC sport are based in Salford.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 26, 2020 20:16:33 GMT
Normally four televised ties isn’t there, across BBC and BT.
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Post by Lobster on Oct 26, 2020 20:25:12 GMT
Colchester away wouldn't exactly have been a dream draw, but not a terrible one either. A club with 3,000-4,000 fans, and we'd get a share of the streaming receipts presumably. I'm certainly not happy to have missed out on it.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 26, 2020 20:25:57 GMT
“Unlike in FA Cup Qualifying, clubs won't automatically forfeit their place if games can't be played within 2 days.
Instead the FA's Professional Game Board will make the decision on whether/when the game is rescheduled.”
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Can’t imagine Man U or Liverpool having to forfeit against the likes of Swansea or Ipswich can you? The FA won’t let that happen, clearly don’t care about the non-league game when it’s one rule for qualifying and another for the proper competition. Just when the non-league clubs need the prize money the most.
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 26, 2020 20:27:45 GMT
“Unlike in FA Cup Qualifying, clubs won't automatically forfeit their place if games can't be played within 2 days. Instead the FA's Professional Game Board will make the decision on whether/when the game is rescheduled.” ————————————————————————————— Can’t imagine Man U or Liverpool having to forfeit against the likes of Swansea or Ipswich can you? The FA won’t let that happen, clearly don’t care about the non-league game when it’s one rule for qualifying and another for the proper competition. Just when the non-league clubs need the prize money the most. Disgrace.
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Post by agl on Oct 26, 2020 20:51:29 GMT
Colchester away wouldn't exactly have been a dream draw, but not a terrible one either. A club with 3,000-4,000 fans, and we'd get a share of the streaming receipts presumably. I'm certainly not happy to have missed out on it. True, but I was dreading Sunderland, Ipswich or Portsmouth at home. Ipswich vs Portsmouth and Tonbridge vs Bradford also candidates for TV
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Post by avfo on Oct 26, 2020 22:16:15 GMT
“Unlike in FA Cup Qualifying, clubs won't automatically forfeit their place if games can't be played within 2 days. Instead the FA's Professional Game Board will make the decision on whether/when the game is rescheduled.” ————————————————————————————— Can’t imagine Man U or Liverpool having to forfeit against the likes of Swansea or Ipswich can you? The FA won’t let that happen, clearly don’t care about the non-league game when it’s one rule for qualifying and another for the proper competition. Just when the non-league clubs need the prize money the most. There are four ties involving teams below Step 2 drawn at home which, unlike earlier rounds in the cup and league fixtures, must now be played behind closed doors, added to which from this round onwards only the winning team receives any prize money.
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Post by tonya on Oct 26, 2020 22:52:59 GMT
Remember the time we won a First Round tie at Layer Road? Chris Tate’s late acrobatic heroics. I got on the pitch at half time that day. Great day. Then we got done over by Marriner at Morecambe. Yes, what a great game and atmosphere. Our sizeable number of fans and Colchester fans close by giving each other usual grief. However at the end after our great goal their fans applauded us. Always think we'll of them now.
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Post by jb on Oct 27, 2020 8:08:20 GMT
Colchester v Chester would more likely be shown on “Time Team” than “Match of the Day”.
Would the expenses of travelling and staying in Colchester outweighed the prize money if Chester had lost that game?
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Post by happyclapper52 on Oct 27, 2020 8:40:17 GMT
Colchester away wouldn't exactly have been a dream draw, but not a terrible one either. A club with 3,000-4,000 fans, and we'd get a share of the streaming receipts presumably. I'm certainly not happy to have missed out on it. Always find it amusing that some suggest that should we have won the tie the subsequent draw would have been against the same opponents? So how can we miss out on something that would never happen? ?
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Post by Lobster on Oct 27, 2020 8:50:27 GMT
Colchester away wouldn't exactly have been a dream draw, but not a terrible one either. A club with 3,000-4,000 fans, and we'd get a share of the streaming receipts presumably. I'm certainly not happy to have missed out on it. Always find it amusing that some suggest that should we have won the tie the subsequent draw would have been against the same opponents? So how can we miss out on something that would never happen? ? Probably true, but speaking hypothetically.
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Post by agl on Oct 27, 2020 16:27:54 GMT
Colchester v Chester would more likely be shown on “Time Team” than “Match of the Day”. Would the expenses of travelling and staying in Colchester outweighed the prize money if Chester had lost that game? There is no prize money for the losers in R1 onwards (unless you are asking whether it would have outweighed the prize money that we would have got from winning the Marine game). It does seem unfair that losing minnows get nothing, buy then the whole competition is skewed in favour of the big boys. Occasionally you get nice gestures from winning teams in the Prem who donate their prize money to beaten opponents.
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Post by superles on Oct 27, 2020 17:00:18 GMT
Colchester v Chester would more likely be shown on “Time Team” than “Match of the Day”. Would the expenses of travelling and staying in Colchester outweighed the prize money if Chester had lost that game? There is no prize money for the losers in R1 onwards (unless you are asking whether it would have outweighed the prize money that we would have got from winning the Marine game). It does seem unfair that losing minnows get nothing, buy then the whole competition is skewed in favour of the big boys. Occasionally you get nice gestures from winning teams in the Prem who donate their prize money to beaten opponents.
Prize money now available to teams winning and losing as they have split it 75% - 25% for 1st Rnd and 2nd Rnd. So most clubs at least won't make a loss on those rounds now.
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Post by agl on Oct 27, 2020 17:07:25 GMT
There is no prize money for the losers in R1 onwards (unless you are asking whether it would have outweighed the prize money that we would have got from winning the Marine game). It does seem unfair that losing minnows get nothing, buy then the whole competition is skewed in favour of the big boys. Occasionally you get nice gestures from winning teams in the Prem who donate their prize money to beaten opponents.
Prize money now available to teams winning and losing as they have split it 75% - 25% for 1st Rnd and 2nd Rnd. So most clubs at least won't make a loss on those rounds now. I stand corrected, thanks!
First Round Proper (40) £16,972 Losers receive £5,657
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Post by utb on Oct 27, 2020 18:03:58 GMT
Rightly or wrongly, the emphasis when it comes to TV picks in the first round is nearly always non-league at home to EFL opposition. I think both Skem and Marine’s ties have zero chance of being shown live on either the BBC or BT Sport. The best either can probably hope for is to be one of the games picked for the BBC’s Sunday afternoon Final Score show, which we made a few thousand pounds from for Barnsley away IIRC. Ties such as FCUM v Doncaster and Eastbourne v Blackpool are probably the most likely to be shown live. I can see things being different this season due to no fans and Covid. TV broadcasters will likely prefer the big stadia with spacious broadcasting facility for safety reasons, rather than traipsing to the tiny non league grounds. If true, I’d say Chorley are nailed on for TV with their game.
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 27, 2020 18:37:14 GMT
Rightly or wrongly, the emphasis when it comes to TV picks in the first round is nearly always non-league at home to EFL opposition. I think both Skem and Marine’s ties have zero chance of being shown live on either the BBC or BT Sport. The best either can probably hope for is to be one of the games picked for the BBC’s Sunday afternoon Final Score show, which we made a few thousand pounds from for Barnsley away IIRC. Ties such as FCUM v Doncaster and Eastbourne v Blackpool are probably the most likely to be shown live. I can see things being different this season due to no fans and Covid. TV broadcasters will likely prefer the big stadia with spacious broadcasting facility for safety reasons, rather than traipsing to the tiny non league grounds. If true, I’d say Chorley are nailed on for TV with their game. The BBC have broadcast live one game from every single preliminary and qualifying round though.
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Post by delamereal on Oct 27, 2020 18:38:11 GMT
Remember the time we won a First Round tie at Layer Road? Chris Tate’s late acrobatic heroics. I got on the pitch at half time that day. Great day. Then we got done over by Marriner at Morecambe. Yes, what a great game and atmosphere. Our sizeable number of fans and Colchester fans close by giving each other usual grief. However at the end after our great goal their fans applauded us. Always think we'll of them now. I was there and remember that as well as their fans singing "You don't know what you're doing" when their manager put his subs on.
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Post by dmcnally on Oct 29, 2020 17:04:31 GMT
Colchester v Marine selected for BBC online coverage. Hopefully a nice sum coming Marine’s way, along with some prize money win or lose...
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 29, 2020 17:16:30 GMT
One of 16 televised First Round fixtures this season.
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Post by avfo on Oct 29, 2020 17:35:32 GMT
Colchester v Marine selected for BBC online coverage. Hopefully a nice sum coming Marine’s way, along with some prize money win or lose... Online coverage = £12,500.
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Post by utb on Oct 29, 2020 17:41:15 GMT
The actual televised BBC game is FCUM's match. Eastbourne Blackpool is on BT Sport. Think it's around 30k for those games and a few others with a full camera crew. The rest are 12.5k.
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