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Post by poolepirate on Oct 28, 2020 18:15:49 GMT
I can't help thinking the government ruling for no crowds at national league level is nonsense. Poole town close to where I live played last evening they are in the league below chester hence crowds allowed. I saw some photos from the game in the local paper crowd there no social distancing looked like a normal game. How can it be deemed ok that somehow the spread of the virus won't affect lower league matches but national league games will do It's sheer nonsense
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Oct 28, 2020 18:23:23 GMT
We wanted “elite” status to the play last seasons playoffs.
Now we’re moaning about this.
Cake and eat it comes to mind.
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Post by poolepirate on Oct 28, 2020 18:37:26 GMT
There has to be a sensible approach by the government/football authorities Many clubs at national league level are community clubs they exist as part time or hybrid models so matchday revenue is essential for survival Alot of league clubs have sugar daddy type owners with millons to spend and also revenue from tv contracts which is received virus or not as long as games are played crowds or not. You only have to look at the crazy wages paid to some players to see where the money is
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Post by Lobster on Oct 28, 2020 18:46:56 GMT
There probably shouldn't be supporters at any level, really. Football fans have a pack mentality, stand close together, hug either other when they score, all go to the toilet at the same time, and if we're serious about social distancing and all that, I just don't see how attending football can comply with that.
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Post by agl on Oct 28, 2020 19:16:51 GMT
There probably shouldn't be supporters at any level, really. Football fans have a pack mentality, stand close together, hug either other when they score, all go to the toilet at the same time, and if we're serious about social distancing and all that, I just don't see how attending football can comply with that. I've been at games at Lewes ...had been capped at 460 but increasing to 500. I think the fact that people are outdoors makes it safer but you're right, old habits die hard and the social distancing isn't great at times on the main covered terrace (there are marked areas but no-one really enforcing it). However, entrance to the bar and toilet two at a time) is controlled and there's a willingness to comply. There are various other measures such as online ticketing only, no turnstiles and splitting the ground into areas so that the usual non segregation doesn't apply. It does feel quite normal and I think 1000 at the Deva would be fine. The problem arises when you get a few dickheads who think the restrictions are an affront to their liberty, rather than for their and others' safety. Other issues are travel to game - public transport, car sharing etc and inevitable crowding when people leave at the end. Sadly, with the way things are looking I see no prospect of fans at our level this season.
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Post by bing on Oct 29, 2020 8:29:41 GMT
I can't help thinking the government ruling for no crowds at national league level is nonsense.Poole town close to where I live played last evening they are in the league below chester hence crowds allowed. I saw some photos from the game in the local paper crowd there no social distancing looked like a normal game. How can it be deemed ok that somehow the spread of the virus won't affect lower league matches but national league games will do It's sheer nonsense Therefore, surely the governments ruling is spot on?
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Post by yossergolf on Oct 29, 2020 10:15:45 GMT
The over riding thing has to be public health and the safety of all involved. The only thing that stops this virus spreading is distance between people, contact of any type provides the vehicle for the virus to spread. None of us want this situation, we all want to get back to the Deva but I can’t see fans being allowed until next season. Hopefully we can survive until then but there is a long way to go with this virus, a vaccine doesn’t mean we are then back to normal.
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 29, 2020 12:12:20 GMT
People would probably be safer in seated areas, than standing ones. As it's easier to maintain distancing.
I suppose 200 at Clitheroe could distance ok, though. As long as they don't all congregate behind the goal together. That's what the government guideline is not expecting to happen.
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Oct 29, 2020 12:36:37 GMT
How many fans do we think the Deva could safely hold if only the seated stands were open? 500 maybe?
Social distancing with the seats not in use taped up, staggered entrance and exit times for each block, contactless entry, monitored toilets etc. should all be possible but it is a big undertaking. I just wonder if the cost of doing all of these things will be covered by having a reduced number of people in the crowd.
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Post by dmcnally on Oct 29, 2020 14:07:59 GMT
How many fans do we think the Deva could safely hold if only the seated stands were open? 500 maybe? Social distancing with the seats not in use taped up, staggered entrance and exit times for each block, contactless entry, monitored toilets etc. should all be possible but it is a big undertaking. I just wonder if the cost of doing all of these things will be covered by having a reduced number of people in the crowd. This is all in place already. The club were ready to welcome back a reduced crowd at the start of the season, before that idea was shelved with just a couple of weeks to go.
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Post by poolepirate on Oct 29, 2020 14:14:49 GMT
What I meant bing by ruling of no fans at national league level as nonsense is that the virus is no less rife at clubs at lower levels I think clubs should be allowed fans as a proportion of their capacity but as was mentioned elsewhere whether it would be financially viable is another matter As clubs are streaming matches the income received could be on a parr with income possibility received from fans attending games(taking into account season ticket holders who have paid in advance) On that subject just wondering if the season ticket holders free access to streaming is classed as having attended the game live or is this still to be decided?
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Post by jedthehumanoid on Oct 29, 2020 14:49:10 GMT
How many fans do we think the Deva could safely hold if only the seated stands were open? 500 maybe? Social distancing with the seats not in use taped up, staggered entrance and exit times for each block, contactless entry, monitored toilets etc. should all be possible but it is a big undertaking. I just wonder if the cost of doing all of these things will be covered by having a reduced number of people in the crowd. This is all in place already. The club were ready to welcome back a reduced crowd at the start of the season, before that idea was shelved with just a couple of weeks to go. Sorry, I should have been clearer - It seems that, with these things in place, going to the match will be equally as safe as going to the supermarket in my eyes. I just worry about the costs outweighing the income generated due to the reduced capacity. Is it actually better to have no crowds and take what we can from streaming for now? In a purely monetary sense.
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